Poll of the Day > the last of us tv show discussion

(+) Yeah! (+)

I stopped watching about 10 minutes into last weeks episode. They're burning through the story so fast, it doesn't feel like any of the characters are being developed at all.

Must be watching a different show than me. Each episode practically feels like a character development for support characters, who in turn lend to the character development of the main characters. Literally entire episodes dedicated to character development and backstory

Bella and Storm killed it

One more episode now. Great episode, captured Davids creepy nature, and made him very unlikable from the start

Great episode. Troy Baker must be stoked with his cameo

DirtBasedSoap posted...

episode 1 was incredible

Agree to disagree. Episode 1 was so boring that I don't even remember most of the plot. Turned it off about 2/3s of the way in.

I don't understand the hype behind this show. Somebody please explain.

Waiting to watch til the last episode on Sunday. I haven't played the games and know almost nothing about the plot.

Psythik posted...

Agree to disagree. Episode 1 was so boring that I don't even remember most of the plot. Turned it off about 2/3s of the way in.

I don't understand the hype behind this show. Somebody please explain.

Watch more than 2/3 of the first episode

JOExHIGASHI posted...

Watch more than 2/3 of the first episode

I'm sorry but if a TV show can't captivate me within the first 30 minutes, it's not worth wasting my time on.

I have ADHD; I don't have the patience, nor the intelligence for boring bullshit and complicated plots.

Psythik posted...

I'm sorry but if a TV show can't captivate me within the first 30 minutes, it's not worth wasting my time on.

I have ADHD; I don't have the patience, nor the intelligence for boring bullshit and complicated plots.

From this post I don't think you'd like the show. It's not action packed. It based on drama and characters. It's actually pretty slow.

The plot is extremely straightforward

Many of the best shows I've seen don't really grab me until several episodes in. Not a good idea to quit a show because it doesn't immediately captivate you. Often times it takes longer than that. IMO

kind9 posted...

Many of the best shows I've seen don't really grab me until several episodes in. Not a good idea to quit a show because it doesn't immediately captivate you. Often times it takes longer than that. IMO

Yeah most dramatic series have at least one introductory episode to set the table. I don't think it's fair to criticize any dramatic series without trying to make it through like two or three episodes.

That said, to each their own. Perfectly fine to dislike this show. It's been great imho but nothing can please everyone so there's bound to be people who don't like it.

At its core it's yet another zombie apocalypse, a concept which has been getting absolutely milked dry over the past several years. I could totally understand someone firing up episode one and going "Oh, this again?" and checking right the fuck out

I stopped watching about 10 minutes into the sixth episode. It was just so boring to me? I LOVE the original game and I think that's what ruined it for me. I've already been able to watch the story unfold the way it was originally intended. Bella is such a terrible actress. It just wasn't for me.

reason posted...

Bella is such a terrible actress

While it's ok to dislike the show, this is a dogshit take.

reason posted...

Bella is such a terrible actress

Yeah, I couldn't agree less. She's great in this and her character is hilarious.

reason posted...

I stopped watching about 10 minutes into the sixth episode. It was just so boring to me? I LOVE the original game and I think that's what ruined it for me. I've already been able to watch the story unfold the way it was originally intended. Bella is such a terrible actress. It just wasn't for me.

She wasn't in the first 10 minutes

reason posted...

Bella is such a terrible actress.

Literally wat

Liked the last episode.
I had a feeling Anna was going going to be bitten, and thats how Ellie was immune

Ogurisama posted...

Liked the last episode.
I had a feeling Anna was going going to be bitten, and thats how Ellie was immune

I think it was because she used that knife to cut the umbilical cord.

That episode was the perfect.

Whole series was great. Glad they focused more on the journey and the relationship between Ellie and Joel and less on a bunch of action sequences. I feel they balanced things well from the game.

Really hope they do Part II now

Best video game adaptation easily, although that's not exactly the highest bar to clear. There are things I like more about the game and things I like more about the show, so I feel like they are two halves of an incredible whole

All these years later, I still feel Joel did nothing wrong

He did what any normal parent would do. Adoptive or biological.

lmao

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/2/9/AAZslrAAESJx.jpg

Over all I liked the season, few parts I got bored with, even skipped a bit here and there, but over all it was good. Two main chars were both great and did an excellent job with their characters.

Spoilers ahead.

I really don't like the final episode and the way the resolved the initial story (never did, but it even comes off worse in the show). IF they had asked Ellie about the surgery, given her a choice, she would have been down for it almost certainly, and also there was no rush, they didn't need to do it right away, they could have given her time to live a bit and get prepared for it. It didn't make sense that they knocked them out when they appeared either, they were freaking waiting for them, and especially for a kid (who they freaking found first).

If Ellie was awake, and especially if she already knew about what would happen and accepted it, then Joel would have had to accept her decision and go along with it.

But it's worse than just that.

So Marlene even tells Joel that she can't believe he made it because she came with a bunch of fireflies and even lost 5 of them on the way etc, yet she sends him off with just 2 guards, and there are like no other guards around at all. Also it was a freaking firefly base before Marlene got there with her guards, where the heck is everyone.

But it's worse than that, why did she even tell him about the surgery, or for that matter let him wake up before it was performed, they could have easily kept him sedated. They were not even letting him say goodbye to her or anything, so there was no reason at all for him to be awake/released before the surgery. If nothing else, keep him locked up till it's done.

Then the final scene with her where she is alone with a gun in the garage....there were literally no other guards/people she could bring with her to cover him? They don't have tranq guns or any other means of taking him out without endangering Ellie? The whole thing didn't make sense to be honest.

Also she was prepped for surgery (Ellie) and in most such cases you have them on oxegeon support, you can't just take them out of the surgery room and jet, good chance she would die, or go into a coma etc.

Finally, they needed the freaking mushroom in her brain, but who says they needed all of her brain, just do minor brain surgery, remove a bit to get the spores, and use that. No reason she has to die, you don't have to remove the whole brain....maybe there would be a chance of death or ..well obviously brain damage, but it was a medical facility. If nothing else tell Joel that she is in surgery already but don't tell him she is def gonna die, just tell him that she didn't make it AFTER the surgery. He might be mad but if he didn't know there was no chance for her to survive, he wouldn't go around killing everyone and you would have your cure.

Anyway really don't like the ending, and the second part of the last of us didn't ever really settle matters or make the ending better (didn't really like it). I hope if they do a season 2, they drastically change what happened in last of us 2 and make it a good story with some form of conclusion from the first part.

I don't think you understand the characters or much of the plot, honestly.

Yes, Ellie in her youthful naivete may have accepted her sacrifice for the greater good, but there's zero chance Joel would've respected that decision. As evidenced through their discussion earlier, Ellie had given Joel purpose again. He was reconnecting with what it meant to be a father, and Ellie was becoming like a daughter to him. He saw her for the child she is, and knowing that, understood she isn't old enough to make a life or death decision on the spot. He would want to protect her, keep her alive, at all costs. Joel would not "have to accept her decision and go along with it", and he wouldn't.

Just because the Fireflies might have had advance knowledge that an armed man may at some point show up escorting a child doesn't mean they wouldn't mistake an armed pair showing up on their doorstep as possibly being a couple of raiders. They didn't shoot them dead in the street. They subdued and apprehended them, discovered who they were, and moved forward accordingly. Also, as to "where is everyone" when they show up - it's a secret lab. They wouldn't be bustling with activity because they're trying to avoid detection. You can see during the firefight that there is clearly staff there, but they're largely trying to remain incognito.

Marlene told Joel about the surgery because he went through hell and back to get Ellie to the Salt Lake. But the Joel that Marlene knew in Boston, who referred to Ellie as "cargo", was not the Joel who turned up in SLC. Marlene wasn't fully aware of the bond that had developed between them. She figured Joel was just finishing up another job, and would be on his way now that the job is done. Which would also explain why she didn't send more guards to escort him out.

You're severely underestimating how complicated brain surgery is ("just do a minor brain surgery"?), and at the same time overestimating the capabilities of the hospital. Understand that brain surgery is a delicate process under the most ideal conditions. The conditions in the Fireflies hospital are far from ideal.

This is a post-apocalyptic setting. Medicine, clean water, general supplies, resources... All scarce and hard to come by. They were discussing whether they'd even have enough power to complete the procedure. Add to this we don't know how capable the staff is. Dr Anderson seems to be fairly competent and confident, but even if he's the best doctor in the apocalypse, he may have been average during the time preceding the outbreak. They more than likely are working without all of the tools and equipment they normally would have or even need, and are clearly understaffed for such a procedure.

There was never any possibility of a "minor" brain surgery. The possibility of Ellie's survival wasn't even discussed because under these circumstances there was no possibility of survival. Ellie was going to die. And there was no chance in hell Joel was gonna stand by and let that happen. None.

As to the sequel, I'm not sure what you were looking for in an ending but Part II was brilliant. It showed just how costly vengeance and unchecked wrath can be, and how a vengeance sated does not necessarily assuage the pain and damage one is seeking to rectify. Ellie choosing forgiveness and mercy over hollow vengeance is possibly the closest thing we could get to a happy ending, given the circumstances. She's attempting to break the cycle, and in doing so not only puts herself on a path of redemption, but also moves toward redeeming Joel as a father figure. He's helped to raise Ellie to be a better person than himself.