Poll of the Day > Why would someone go out to eat if they have deadly allergy?

Topic List
Page List: 1
KingDavid
12/24/22 1:09:46 AM
#1:


I remember a few years I saw an article about how a family took their teenage daughter out to dinner and she died because she had something she was allergic too in her food. Then the parents sued the restaurant.

People are so fucking stupid, I swear
... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin
12/24/22 1:21:04 AM
#2:


sure, places have their typical allergens listed...

I mean, if I went to a restaurant that advertised as being nut free and someone gets a nut from the food... I'd sue, obviously

---
"Salt cures Everything!"
My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos
... Copied to Clipboard!
BigOlePappy
12/24/22 1:31:20 AM
#3:


Maybe they are hive minded...

---
"Oh, you think lag is your ally. You merely adopted lag. I was born in it, molded by it. I didnt have cable until I was already a man."
... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl
12/24/22 2:02:35 AM
#4:


Usually because they like going out to eat and have reason to believe they can do so safely. Most restaurants are willing to accommodate allergies up to a reasonable point, provided the customer lets them know first. Sometimes, it's not possible or reasonable to accommodate the allergy (usually because the allergen is inextricably mixed in to the food or because the kitchen's too small to prevent cross-contamination), and in those cases the restaurant has a responsibility to refuse to serve the person with the allergy. Depending on where you are, certain common allergens must also be clearly indicated in the ingredient list (though that's more for packaged foods than restaurants).

Now, if staff weren't made aware of the allergy and didn't advertise their products as being free of the allergen, that's around where their responsibility ends. Pretty much everything is an allergen for somebody, and it's not realistic to expect restaurants to omit everything for fear of triggering a reaction. The customer needs to do their part for the restaurant to be able to keep them safe.

---
This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts.
... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive
12/24/22 7:57:26 AM
#5:


adjl posted...
Most restaurants are willing to accommodate allergies up to a reasonable point, provided the customer lets them know first.

There's also the issue of how blatantly staff disregards any responsibility. I know I've heard a story IRL about someone who had epi-pen level allergies to tomatoes, and went to a Chili's or Chipotle or some place like that (I forget the actual place now, I heard this story in passing like 10+ years ago), and ordered a beef bowl thing (basically, the kind of deal where you get taco meat in a bowl and dip tortilla chips into it). Since it normally comes with salsa/tomato, the people at the table who ordered it explicitly asked to have it without tomatoes, and straight up told the serving staff that the one guy had a severe allergic reaction to it and it could literally kill them if they didn't keep tomatoes away from it.

So when the food got to the table, it looked like there was no tomato, so the allergic person ate some. Then they figured out that it still had tomato, and that all the tomato was on the bottom under the meat, so you literally couldn't see it until it was too late. In that scenario, I'd sue the ever-living fuck out of the staff and the restaurant regardless of whether or not the person even had an allergic reaction. Because that's pretty much borderline criminal irresponsibility.

---
"Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76
"POwned again." --- blight family
... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkMinun
12/24/22 8:49:27 AM
#6:


I just don't order things that I'm allergic to (my allergy is not life-threatening).

---
sdoo
... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza
12/24/22 10:34:16 AM
#7:


They can still eat food. They just have to stay away from the stuff that can kill them. Like, I have a shellfish allergy. So, when I go out to eat, I dont order anything with shellfish. And in most cases, tell the staff, as well With other allergies of more common foods, you just usually have to tell the workers, and if they are complete piles of shit, they will usually try to accommodate you (and serve you food that wont kill you)

---
Official King of Kings
Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around.
... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl
12/24/22 11:07:58 AM
#8:


ParanoidObsessive posted...
There's also the issue of how blatantly staff disregards any responsibility. I know I've heard a story IRL about someone who had epi-pen level allergies to tomatoes, and went to a Chili's or Chipotle or some place like that (I forget the actual place now, I heard this story in passing like 10+ years ago), and ordered a beef bowl thing (basically, the kind of deal where you get taco meat in a bowl and dip tortilla chips into it). Since it normally comes with salsa/tomato, the people at the table who ordered it explicitly asked to have it without tomatoes, and straight up told the serving staff that the one guy had a severe allergic reaction to it and it could literally kill them if they didn't keep tomatoes away from it.

So when the food got to the table, it looked like there was no tomato, so the allergic person ate some. Then they figured out that it still had tomato, and that all the tomato was on the bottom under the meat, so you literally couldn't see it until it was too late. In that scenario, I'd sue the ever-living fuck out of the staff and the restaurant regardless of whether or not the person even had an allergic reaction. Because that's pretty much borderline criminal irresponsibility.

Precisely. While there are plenty of instances of people with allergies simply assuming that they'll be safe and not telling anyone about them, then getting mad at restaurants when they have a reaction, instances where the person does tell staff about the allergies, the restaurant needs to either accommodate the allergies or refuse service. Any other course of action is a reckless decision to endanger the person for which staff are absolutely culpable.

---
This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts.
... Copied to Clipboard!
KingDavid
12/24/22 2:33:50 PM
#9:


ParanoidObsessive posted...
Because that's pretty much borderline criminal irresponsibility.
What's irresponsible is going out to eat when you know you have a deadly allergy, or if your child has a deadly allergy.

And it's borderline criminal that people would put someone's life in someone else's hand.

It's like going to someone for support for suicide, or threatening to commit suicide unless someone does something.

It's selfish.

You are literally putting you/or someone else's life in the hands of the staff and management. I would not want to be held liable for the company or your life.

If I was an owner or manager of an establishment, I would tell people with deadly allergies to go somewhere else, because I DO NOT want to be responsible for someone else's life. Fuck that!
... Copied to Clipboard!
Lynyrd_Skynyrd
12/24/22 5:21:55 PM
#10:


This is the kind of idiot topics that get made here now, huh?
... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive
12/24/22 5:37:50 PM
#11:


KingDavid posted...

What's irresponsible is going out to eat when you know you have a deadly allergy, or if your child has a deadly allergy.

No.

---
"Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76
"POwned again." --- blight family
... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza
12/24/22 5:44:11 PM
#12:


KingDavid posted...
What's irresponsible is going out to eat when you know you have a deadly allergy, or if your child has a deadly allergy.

And it's borderline criminal that people would put someone's life in someone else's hand.

It's like going to someone for support for suicide, or threatening to commit suicide unless someone does something.

It's selfish.

You are literally putting you/or someone else's life in the hands of the staff and management. I would not want to be held liable for the company or your life.

If I was an owner or manager of an establishment, I would tell people with deadly allergies to go somewhere else, because I DO NOT want to be responsible for someone else's life. Fuck that!

No. People with allergies still eat. And many can eat at most places. And many restaurant can accommodate them. If they cant, they should say so.

And its not criminal to out someone elses life in someone elses hands. Parent that send their child to school do it most days of the week

And technically, even without allergies, going out to eat is putting your life in someone elses hand. They could poison the food, or the food could go bad, or something else entirely

And some restaurants do send people away. Others do their best to accommodate. For example, at Genghis Grill, you tell them your allergy (they ask before even letting you get you ingredients), and they mark it. That way, they clean the grill extra good and get extra clean cooking ware before cooking your food to make sure its all safe

---
Official King of Kings
Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Count_Drachma
12/24/22 7:46:01 PM
#13:


While some restaurants are responsible, you have also have a lot of shithead employees who simply don't care. There was that case of a guy who alerted employees to his son's allergy but the reckless employees wound up nearly killing the kid. And the employees -- who should've faced criminal charges -- had zero ramifications finally, iirc.

---
Everybody's got a price / Everybody's got to pay / Because the Million Drachma Man / Always gets his way. AhahahahMMH
... Copied to Clipboard!
KingDavid
12/24/22 10:47:50 PM
#14:


Count_Drachma posted...
While some restaurants are responsible, you have also have a lot of shithead employees who simply don't care. There was that case of a guy who alerted employees to his son's allergy but the reckless employees wound up nearly killing the kid. And the employees -- who should've faced criminal charges -- had zero ramifications finally, iirc.
Hence forth why you shouldn't go out when you have an allergy.
... Copied to Clipboard!
jsb0714
12/24/22 11:42:23 PM
#15:


LinkPizza posted...
No. People with allergies still eat. And many can eat at most places. And many restaurant can accommodate them. If they cant, they should say so.
Ffs, is everyone just intentionally ignoring the deadly allergy aspect?
... Copied to Clipboard!
ZangsBeard
12/25/22 3:52:30 AM
#16:


KingDavid posted...
What's irresponsible is going out to eat when you know you have a deadly allergy, or if your child has a deadly allergy.

And it's borderline criminal that people would put someone's life in someone else's hand.

It's like going to someone for support for suicide, or threatening to commit suicide unless someone does something.

It's selfish.

You are literally putting you/or someone else's life in the hands of the staff and management. I would not want to be held liable for the company or your life.

If I was an owner or manager of an establishment, I would tell people with deadly allergies to go somewhere else, because I DO NOT want to be responsible for someone else's life. Fuck that!

We get it, you have no empathy and think people with disabilities should be kept in asylums.

It's also quite telling that you didn't provide a link to the story you're talking about in your original post.

---
Fear the http://img.pestilenceware.com/Zangulus/Beard.jpg
... Copied to Clipboard!
Ezekiel2320
12/25/22 9:47:39 PM
#17:


Had a GF years ago that was allergic to Onions. It was nearly impossible to take her out to eat anywhere.

---
There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin
12/25/22 11:40:37 PM
#18:


approximately 1 in 50 Americans have fatal food allergies...

---
"Salt cures Everything!"
My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos
... Copied to Clipboard!
KingDavid
12/25/22 11:51:18 PM
#19:


Ezekiel2320 posted...
Had a GF years ago that was allergic to Onions. It was nearly impossible to take her out to eat anywhere.
That sucks.

We should just remove common allergies like peanuts and such from restraunts.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Sarcasthma
12/26/22 6:20:23 PM
#20:


Lynyrd_Skynyrd posted...
This is the kind of idiot topics that get made here now, huh?
It is when the TC is a mharbenedict alt.

---
What's the difference between a pickpocket and a peeping tom?
A pickpocket snatches your watch.
... Copied to Clipboard!
shadowsword87
12/26/22 6:38:16 PM
#21:


Why do we let people with wheelchairs out anyway? There are stairs everywhere, wouldn't just be easier to not let them go anywhere?
... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl
12/26/22 11:32:12 PM
#22:


KingDavid posted...
If I was an owner or manager of an establishment, I would tell people with deadly allergies to go somewhere else, because I DO NOT want to be responsible for someone else's life. f*** that!

Man, wait until this guy finds out about foodborne illness and the safety protocols food service staff are expected to follow to prevent it.

---
This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts.
... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkMinun
12/27/22 1:12:38 PM
#23:


KingDavid posted...
What's irresponsible is going out to eat when you know you have a deadly allergy, or if your child has a deadly allergy.

And it's borderline criminal that people would put someone's life in someone else's hand.

It's like going to someone for support for suicide, or threatening to commit suicide unless someone does something.

It's selfish.

You are literally putting you/or someone else's life in the hands of the staff and management. I would not want to be held liable for the company or your life.

If I was an owner or manager of an establishment, I would tell people with deadly allergies to go somewhere else, because I DO NOT want to be responsible for someone else's life. Fuck that!

You would also have to not put antifreeze or anthrax in their food, and take care to keep the rat poison (that all food service establishments are required to have) out of the food.

This is why restaurants are generally run by people who give a fuck about the wellbeing of others, and are not run by you.

Any restaurant that regularly cross-contaminates ingredients badly enough to make anyone but the .0001% of most serious allergies sick has such terrible quality control and sanitation practices that I wouldn't want to eat there anyway.

You can't run a restaurant kitchen like a kitchen at home where something falls and gets a bit of dirt on it but you throw it back in the pan anyway because you know you're not personally going to die from that particular bit of dirt.

---
sdoo
... Copied to Clipboard!
Krow_Incarnate
12/30/22 3:06:36 PM
#24:


Okay, who's alt is this

---
Hail Hydra
... Copied to Clipboard!
Topic List
Page List: 1