Poll of the Day > I guess Netflix is finally going to do it...

(+) Yeah! (+)

They are going to end password sharing Which they have been saying for a while But I guess they did enough testing and have figured out how they want to do it

Spoiler: Its stupid and will probably cost them a good amount of viewers

https://www.wsj.com/articles/netflix-password-sharing-end-11671636600

It's probably about 2-3 years too late for this to be a good idea. When they still had a decent market share and giving up Netflix meant losing access to a lot of content, they could likely have gotten away with cracking down on password sharing. Now, though, after so much content has been gobbled up by other services and they've already got a lot of people questioning their subscriptions after several price increases, I expect quite a lot of people will rather give it up than pay the extra fee/full price for an account.

LinkPizza posted...

They are going to end password sharing Which they have been saying for a while But I guess they did enough testing and have figured out how they want to do it

Spoiler: Its stupid and will probably cost them a good amount of viewers

https://www.wsj.com/articles/netflix-password-sharing-end-11671636600

bro you couldnt link to an article that isnt paywalled?

FatalAccident posted...

bro you couldnt link to an article that isnt paywalled?

I didn't know it was paywalled. I got this from a different topic. When I went in earlier to look at the article myself, it seemed to work fine, without asking for anything like money...

I just checked, and didn't have to pay or sign in or anything...

adjl posted...

It's probably about 2-3 years too late for this to be a good idea. When they still had a decent market share and giving up Netflix meant losing access to a lot of content, they could likely have gotten away with cracking down on password sharing. Now, though, after so much content has been gobbled up by other services and they've already got a lot of people questioning their subscriptions after several price increases, I expect quite a lot of people will rather give it up than pay the extra fee/full price for an account.

Yeah. I don't think it will go well. Even a few years ago, it probably wouldn't have gone as well if the other services came out right after this happened... And while they said the other streaming services will follow, it probably depends on what happens to Netflix. If Netflix loses a good amount of the money, the others may hold off on doing it for a little while, if they even decide to ever do it...

FatalAccident posted...

bro you couldnt link to an article that isnt paywalled?

Maybe someone who pays for access could share their password.

Dotdotdot

Honestly I am surprised it took them this long.

When they gonna do it

FrozenBananas posted...

When they gonna do it

No official date yet. But they say 2023. And they finished testing in the Latin American countries already, so

It is going to be a big year of changes. No more Netflix and no more Chrome (or Google in general)

bo_danvers posted...

It is going to be a big year of changes. No more Netflix and no more Chrome (or Google in general)

Whats going on with Chrome? I heard some part of it was shutting down or something

The article wasn't paywalled for me either. I think it is one of those sites that may give you so many free articles to read in a certain time period, then they will block you. I've run across a few sites like that. It will be interesting to see how this affects Netflix in the US. I personally don't have it or use it at all. My parents use my sister's account though, so I am sure I will hear about that eventually if they have to pay for it.

LinkPizza posted...

Whats going on with Chrome? I heard some part of it was shutting down or something

Chrome will be trying to kill adblockers this year because they get advertising money. Since Edge is based on chromium, that leaves the door open for Firefox or Brave to be the new browser of choice.

Mesiah21 posted...

The article wasn't paywalled for me either. I think it is one of those sites that may give you so many free articles to read in a certain time period, then they will block you. I've run across a few sites like that. It will be interesting to see how this affects Netflix in the US. I personally don't have it or use it at all. My parents use my sister's account though, so I am sure I will hear about that eventually if they have to pay for it.

Yeah. I was thinking that might be the case with the article. It happens sometimes

As for how it will affect things in the US, I think they may lose some subscribers. Some will still keep their accounts if it doesnt affect them in any way. And a few may get their own account. But I think many will also leave. This could make it hard for people to watch Netflix anywhere else but home unless they want to pay extra to have a second home on Netflix I see some paying the extra fee if its low enough, while many others just leave. I also think many will opt for a lower tier. Many people paid for a higher tier so they could have multiple screens using NetFlix at the same time. That almost becomes useless unless in the same house So, many will get a lower price if the higher tiers dont let them share with people outside the house anymore

bo_danvers posted...

Chrome will be trying to kill adblockers this year because they get advertising money. Since Edge is based on chromium, that leaves the door open for Firefox or Brave to be the new browser of choice.

I see I feel like I remember hearing them talk about this before I didnt realize it was coming so soon

It's going to be sad but it'll be the final death of Netflix.
Their model of paying huge amount of money to make 1 season of a show every 4 years it's not working.

If they get rid of ad blockers in chrome then that will surely be the end of chrome. Not that I care though because I use firefox and would never use such an inferior browser.

SinisterSlay posted...

It's going to be sad but it'll be the final death of Netflix.
Their model of paying huge amount of money to make 1 season of a show every 4 years it's not working.

Probably Bit if it dies, itll be a slow death Most people wont drop
It immediately But the amount of people watching will fall, since many will have to stop watching, but wont get their own account Many people who arent affected will probably keep it But I also assume it will affect plenty of people

kind9 posted...

If they get rid of ad blockers in chrome then that will surely be the end of chrome. Not that I care though because I use firefox and would never use such an inferior browser.

Probably for home use Though, I know many companies use it. So, it might stay functional for a while because of that

So you're saying I need to watch Glass Onion soon?

Otherwise...eh.

wpot posted...

So you're saying I need to watch Glass Onion soon?

Otherwise...eh.

Depends. If you have your own account, youll be fine If someone is sharing their password with you, you should hurry up and catch it before Netflix pulls the plug

I also want to watch that I have my own account, but Im not at home (not my home, I guess)

bo_danvers posted...

Chrome will be trying to kill adblockers this year because they get advertising money. Since Edge is based on chromium, that leaves the door open for Firefox or Brave to be the new browser of choice.

Isn't Brave a chromium-based browser as well? I use it, and it is pretty darn similar to Chrome. I may be wrong about it. But I thought I read it was built by someone that worked on Chrome in the past, but left and decided to make Brave.

bo_danvers posted...

Chrome will be trying to kill adblockers this year because they get advertising money. Since Edge is based on chromium, that leaves the door open for Firefox or Brave to be the new browser of choice.

"Hey, people keep blocking our ads because they're annoying/harmful, should we try to make them less annoying/harmful?"
"No let's just make it so they can't block ads anymore."

Netflix sucks, glad I cut them out a while ago, it's crazy to watch all these greedy companies shoot themselves in the foot and ruin any long term stability for an extra couple of dollars in the short term. Stop getting greedy and pissing off customers and you'll stay around a lot longer and make more money you incompetent fucks.

Muscles posted...

Netflix sucks, glad I cut them out a while ago, it's crazy to watch all these greedy companies shoot themselves in the foot and ruin any long term stability for an extra couple of dollars in the short term. Stop getting greedy and pissing off customers and you'll stay around a lot longer and make more money you incompetent fucks.

Alternatively, the executives and shareholders can milk rapid, unsustainable growth for as long as they can, then abandon the company to die once the value peaks and move on to the next company that they'll milk. The people making decisions like this aren't the ones that stand to suffer in any meaningful way if the company goes under, and in many cases they stand to gain more by bouncing from bursting bubble to bursting bubble than by trying to maintain moderate, sustainable revenue. They aren't incompetent so much as they don't care about what consumers want. This is, in fact, capitalism working as intended.

bo_danvers posted...

Chrome will be trying to kill adblockers this year because they get advertising money. Since Edge is based on chromium, that leaves the door open for Firefox or Brave to be the new browser of choice.

As someone who's been using Brave for 2+ years, I can't vouch for it enough. Absolutely love Brave.

It's pretty good on mobile too. Helps you get around YT's bullshit.

what is password sharing? does that mean i can only use netflix on my computer and not on the tv in my living room?

My best guess is they will save money from server costs by cutting everyone off, while also opening up the flood gates for those people to pay for themselves. I'd imagine even if they didn't get a sub boost they'd still save money.

As for chrome, i feel like a growing majority of its users are on an android phone with zero ad blocking, not a computer. I don't even own a computer and use Chrome because idc.

All of this is said with little knowledge BTW. Just occams razor.

adjl posted...

Alternatively, the executives and shareholders can milk rapid, unsustainable growth for as long as they can, then abandon the company to die once the value peaks and move on to the next company that they'll milk. The people making decisions like this aren't the ones that stand to suffer in any meaningful way if the company goes under, and in many cases they stand to gain more by bouncing from bursting bubble to bursting bubble than by trying to maintain moderate, sustainable revenue. They aren't incompetent so much as they don't care about what consumers want. This is, in fact, capitalism working as intended.

Yep.

adjl posted...

Alternatively, the executives and shareholders can milk rapid, unsustainable growth for as long as they can, then abandon the company to die once the value peaks and move on to the next company that they'll milk. The people making decisions like this aren't the ones that stand to suffer in any meaningful way if the company goes under, and in many cases they stand to gain more by bouncing from bursting bubble to bursting bubble than by trying to maintain moderate, sustainable revenue. They aren't incompetent so much as they don't care about what consumers want. This is, in fact, capitalism working as intended.

Basically this Why try to keep a company running, when you can instead just get a large sum and bounce before you lose anything

accord posted...

what is password sharing? does that mean i can only use netflix on my computer and not on the tv in my living room?

Basically, its when someone that isnt you used your account to watch stuff. You can use as many devices you want in your home. But now, they are making it so that if someone watches it a lot somewhere else that isnt your house, they have to make it a second home to continue watching after two weeks. Which will then make your bill go up

bo_danvers posted...

Chrome will be trying to kill adblockers this year because they get advertising money. Since Edge is based on chromium, that leaves the door open for Firefox or Brave to be the new browser of choice.

brave is also just chrome

it's really just going to be firefox

Netflix really is just trying to be irrelevant aren't they.

I use my sisters account and theres no way shell pay a fee to share. And Im not going to pay for my own so I guess no more Netflix for me.

Netflix is like the worst streaming site though, for me. Has almost nothing I want to watch and I cant think of a single original of theirs that Ive watched and enjoyed. Its good for the odd movie once a month or so, but I think Ill live lol

adjl posted...

"Hey, people keep blocking our ads because they're annoying/harmful, should we try to make them less annoying/harmful?"
"No let's just make it so they can't block ads anymore."

I lol'd. Its sad but true.

NF doesn't have that much content I give a shit about (and I don't watch much stuff anyway), so when it consigns itself to the dustbin of history, I'll just use any number of other platforms that haven't adopted the policy and probably won't after NF implodes.

Rasmoh posted...

Maybe someone who pays for access could share their password.

Hey-oh!

adjl posted...

This is, in fact, capitalism working as intended.

Keep your commie propaganda to yourself.

won't work

Count_Drachma posted...

Keep your commie propaganda to yourself.

Remember kids: Only communists would ever consider suggesting that unfettered capitalism actively works against consumers' interests on a regular basis.

Netflix is garbage anyways

I havent paid for Netflix in almost five years. I just didnt find much of their content to be very good. Aside from the obvious Stranger Things, what are some actual good shows/movies on there?

BeerOnTap posted...

I havent paid for Netflix in almost five years. I just didnt find much of their content to be very good. Aside from the obvious Stranger Things, what are some actual good shows/movies on there?

For movies, I recently enjoyed Glass Onion

For shows, there are quite a few I enjoy. But not everyone would have the same interest as I do

Netflix isn't going to be a virgin anymore??

adjl posted...

Remember kids: Only communists would ever consider suggesting that unfettered capitalism actively works against consumers' interests on a regular basis.

it is strange to call capitalism communism after spending multiple years championing capitalism

I hear Wednesday is pretty good

Bee and Puppycat is hilarious and beautiful

LinkPizza posted...

For movies, I recently enjoyed Glass Onion

Glass Onion was pretty fun, although it fades towards the end. Don't Look Up was okay as well.

Granted, out of all the stuff I've seen recently on NF, I probably liked Bullet Train the most (although it kinda hits a lull for a bit towards the end).

adjl posted...

Remember kids: Only communists would ever consider suggesting that unfettered capitalism actively works against consumers' interests on a regular basis.

And just remember how well communism works out for consumers' interests.

I don't get why they don't just force enable MFA. That'll end password sharing without actually having to end password sharing.

Count_Drachma posted...

And just remember how well communism works out for consumers' interests.

And there's the whoosh.

doshindude posted...

I don't get why they don't just force enable MFA. That'll end password sharing without actually having to end password sharing.

I think they mentioned they didnt want to make it too non-user friendly Having to do that every time would suck for the people that use it pretty regularly. And could lose them some customers. And, on many cases, still wouldnt end password sharing. Anyone they would lose to MFA, would probably be lost due to what they are doing now. But Im sure some people would still share. I think more people would share if they just used MFA instead of what they are doing. And MFA would cause more people to leave. I try to avoid it for most of my normal sites, tbh I cant imagine having to do that every time I log in

The only reason I've been paying for it as long as I have is because my mom uses my account. If they stop that I'll just cancel my account and return to more dubious methods should they have something I want to watch.

Really wonder how they intend to make this work, without violating EU privacy laws.

Nichtcrawler-X posted...

Really wonder how they intend to make this work, without violating EU privacy laws.

They already apparently have been planning for a while And have been testing already. So, they probably have plans in place Which part of the privacy laws would they be violating?

Seems like it's going to fail the same way DRM usually fails.

Account Sharing is like piracy. The person using the account is unlikely to want an active subscription.

Netflix isn't losing a potential subscriber with account sharing, but they are losing free word-of-mouth for their shows without it.

I wonder if the word-of-mouth would be worth more than the server and licensing costs they may save?