Board 8 > Plum Reads (Plays?) Uminkeo The Playthrough topic 2 - Episode 7+

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masterplum
12/05/22 7:08:49 PM
#1:


LAST TIME ON Umineko

Stuff finally happened, but there are a lot of really big question marks.

I am assuming Episode 7 is finally going to answer some of them

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Leonhart4
12/05/22 7:13:17 PM
#2:


Episode 7 is something else (in a good way)

Can't wait to see your reaction to it

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Zigzagoon
12/05/22 7:21:46 PM
#3:


Theres a track in 7 that is so dang cool. And happens at a moment where you are like wtffff.

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Zigzagoon
12/05/22 7:22:07 PM
#4:


I like 7 yeah

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masterplum
12/05/22 9:31:52 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/3/9/AANz_VAAD9Qb.jpg

Got to be featherines piece I suppose. The acknowledgment that Lion was abnormal showed awareness that we didn't see outside of Erika

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masterplum
12/06/22 8:13:34 AM
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Hmm

Wonder if Lion is the baby that Natsuhi ... killed? Put in a position to die?

Seems like that might be the most logical way Lion exists.

Also the different architecture is really throwing me off

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masterplum
12/06/22 8:33:47 AM
#7:


Wait

Hold on something occurred to me

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/9/1/AANz_VAAD9V7.png

If we are down to 16 humans, then could we plausibly during that fragment have had a person X as the 17th person?

Seems like a little bit of a bait and switch.


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masterplum
12/06/22 8:45:48 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/9/7/AANz_VAAD9WB.jpg

....

Oh?

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masterplum
12/06/22 8:46:52 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/9/8/AANz_VAAD9WC.jpg

The hell is going on here

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masterplum
12/06/22 8:48:53 AM
#10:


I also noticed the grey in Shannons eyes there are the same grey that happened in Jessica's eyes when she went super Saiyan

Probably related, but unsure if significant

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Zigzagoon
12/06/22 12:57:05 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSJVvftCR64&ab_channel=UminekoAnime

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masterplum
12/06/22 4:30:38 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/5/0/AANz_VAAD9bi.jpg

Except he looks closer to Kyrie than Battler

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Dels
12/06/22 4:35:28 PM
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...yeah. i'd forgotten about this moment entirely and my first thought on scrolling down and seeing the pic was "wtf? who is that? is that kyrie????"
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Leonhart4
12/06/22 4:43:17 PM
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In the original version of the game, it's just the Battler sprite with white hair

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masterplum
12/06/22 6:56:46 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/8/5/AANz_VAAD9dp.jpg

Well that potentially explains the gold.

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masterplum
12/06/22 6:59:08 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/8/7/AANz_VAAD9dr.jpg

Will is great.

I've been kind of rolling my eyes over how many new characters have been introduced, but I'll give them credit that many of them have been quite good

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Leonhart4
12/06/22 9:16:35 PM
#17:


Yeah, Will is a fun and competent alternative to Battler.

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masterplum
12/07/22 1:43:56 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/2/9/AANz_VAAD9pR.jpg

Hmm

Not sure if not real, or real but someone else could have been dressed like Beatrice to pity Maria


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masterplum
12/07/22 6:07:00 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/3/9/AANz_VAAD9sj.jpg

Yeah this sounds like someone who pitied Maria playing with her

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masterplum
12/07/22 9:15:04 PM
#20:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/9/3/AANz_VAAD9u9.jpg

WE GOT THERE

70 Hours later we have a payoff to checkoffs asthma inhaler

Just checked and I made a post about it a little over 6 months ago!

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masterplum
12/08/22 3:21:18 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/1/8/AANz_VAAD94u.jpg

I need to draw this out. can't tell if the implication here is that Maria is missing or Lion just isn't real.

The latter is more probable but also less interesting so I suppose I won't worry about it

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masterplum
12/08/22 3:23:40 PM
#22:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/2/1/AANz_VAAD94x.jpg

Wait

Wait wait wait

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masterplum
12/08/22 3:31:15 PM
#23:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/2/5/AANz_VAAD941.png

Hmmmmmmmmm


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masterplum
12/08/22 3:33:14 PM
#24:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/2/6/AANz_VAAD942.jpg

Ah damn. So close. Got that Lion was the baby. Didn't put together the baby was the child of Beatrice II

I suppose I should have gotten that one

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masterplum
12/08/22 3:46:04 PM
#25:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/4/1/AANz_VAAD95F.jpg

Ok what the hell I have a meeting in 15 minutes. The pause is making me want to think more

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masterplum
12/08/22 3:53:36 PM
#26:


Rewinding

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/4/5/AANz_VAAD95J.jpg

It bothers me to no end this is escaping me

Its going to be obvious.


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masterplum
12/08/22 7:21:25 PM
#27:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/2/6/AANz_VAAD97-.png

Yeah it felt like based on the weird scene in 7 it would be shannon or Kannon

But do not have the foggiest logic of how that would work

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masterplum
12/08/22 7:38:23 PM
#28:


Oh duh

If Kanon is Beatrice that would explain why Lion and Beatrice couldn't be in the same room together as they are the same person.

I mean this still makes zero sense how the hell this works for literally everything else, but at least that makes sense

Like even suppose Kannon is beatrice then that doesn't explain at all how ....she? disappeared from the locked room in 6

Hmm

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masterplum
12/08/22 8:07:56 PM
#29:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/6/4/AANz_VAAD98k.jpg

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/8/7/AAD2RLAAAFGX.png

Am I wrong? I can't be wrong here right? Asking to see Kannon with Lion there fits too perfectly

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masterplum
12/09/22 7:46:46 AM
#30:


Also lion being ambiguously gendered to foreshadow Kannon being ambiguously gendered

IT ALL FITS.

in b4 Beatrice is Nanjo somehow

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masterplum
12/09/22 7:57:08 AM
#31:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/5/5/AANz_VAAD-EP.jpg

You know, I'm curious if the servants looking like the 7 stakes of purgatory is indicating that is how some of these deaths occurred.

We know based on the text that there are other servants though it did say on the day of the family conference that the trusted servants were the ones that were being employed.... I don't know if it ever said those were the only servants

Honestly this is probably pretty obvious for everyone at this point and I am returning to monkey seeing the answer and pointing at it and going "Look! It's an answer!"

Figuring out it is Kannon isn't super impressive when the game is like "Yeah bro. That's who it is"

And yet I'm still not completely positive because it seems like it is obvious enough here that I am worried the game is setting up a bait and switch >_>

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masterplum
12/09/22 8:24:05 AM
#32:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/6/7/AANz_VAAD-Eb.jpg

"Ritual"

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masterplum
12/09/22 3:48:59 PM
#33:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/7/3/AANz_VAAD-Kx.jpg

This one actually seems pretty easy. There are multiple sets of master keys. Take a key off your own key ring and put it in her locker. Then swap your key sets when she isn't looking

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masterplum
12/09/22 7:09:58 PM
#34:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/5/8/AANz_VAAD-Nq.jpg
I think there is still a non-zero chance it is Shannon here.

I think that makes less sense, but I could see it.

The game is trying pretty hard to distance itself from obvious Kanon is obvious but I'm still sticking to my guns

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masterplum
12/09/22 7:43:22 PM
#35:


Also Kanon being beatrice makes the sacrifice in 6 make way more sense. Otherwise the question would be why Kanon of all people

But without love it can't be seen or whatnot.

As the game apparently is trying to back away slowly from obvious kanon
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/9/1/AANz_VAAD-OL.jpg

Feels like I have to come up with more evidence of why this is definitely correct

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masterplum
12/09/22 8:32:11 PM
#36:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/2/5/AANz_VAAD-Ot.jpg

....

...

...

AM I WRONG?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/2/6/AANz_VAAD-Ou.jpg

It could be referring to Kanon as an alias

Still full speed ahead. Choo Choo

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TeamRocketElite
12/09/22 8:38:28 PM
#37:


popcorn.gif

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masterplum
12/09/22 8:51:49 PM
#38:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/3/4/AANz_VAAD-O2.jpg

Is....

Is it Shannon?

The biggest issue with it being Shannon is there isn't any good evidence I can come up with outside of this specific collection of scenes that points to that being correct. I might just be second guessing myself

But this is weird. I don't understand what the point is of this is if it isn't going to resolve with this being the inner turmoil of Shannon

I'm at like 90/10 Kanon/Shannon right now

ahhh

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masterplum
12/09/22 8:57:42 PM
#39:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/3/9/AANz_VAAD-O7.jpg

AHHHH

IS THIS A BAIT AND SWITCH

GAME WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO ME

Nothing makes sense if Shannon is Beatrice. Like she destroyed the mirror for.... herself? She loves Batler and is marrying George? Kanon random ass saves himself for Battler?

nonono

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masterplum
12/09/22 9:04:53 PM
#40:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/4/7/AANz_VAAD-PD.jpg

IS THE THING HE DID LEAVING FOR 6 YEARS?

WHY IS THE GAME SHOWING ME THIS

I AM VERY CONFUSED

I was extremely confidant and I am completely cracking under this.

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Leonhart4
12/09/22 9:08:23 PM
#41:


Without love it cannot be seen

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masterplum
12/09/22 9:10:54 PM
#42:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/5/5/AANz_VAAD-PL.jpg
stop mocking me damn game


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masterplum
12/09/22 9:21:09 PM
#43:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/6/7/AANz_VAAD-PX.jpg

Battler never dies...

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masterplum
12/09/22 9:23:06 PM
#44:


Ah shit George always proposes

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masterplum
12/10/22 8:37:12 AM
#45:


I swear if I noticed this 20 posts into the first topic 6 months ago

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/8/1/AANz_VAAD-V1.jpg

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masterplum
12/10/22 8:48:33 AM
#46:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/9/4/AANz_VAAD-WC.jpg

...

Game

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masterplum
12/10/22 1:57:44 PM
#47:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/6/7/AANz_VAAD-Yv.png

Very useful

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masterplum
12/10/22 2:02:37 PM
#48:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/7/1/AANz_VAAD-Yz.jpg

There is no way anyone actually got this

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Leonhart4
12/10/22 2:06:33 PM
#49:


No one who doesn't speak Japanese anyway

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masterplum
12/10/22 2:14:27 PM
#50:


Leonhart4 posted...
No one who doesn't speak Japanese anyway

And English


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