Poll of the Day > Cali proposes over $220K in reparations to Black residents...

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pionear
12/05/22 5:17:10 PM
#1:


Which One?


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-reparations-proposal-could-mean-223k-per-person-payments-black-residents

Think it's a good idea?
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Kimbos_Egg
12/05/22 5:22:49 PM
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fucking stupid.

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Lokarin
12/05/22 5:32:06 PM
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I'm not sure that's enough, given how egregious redlining is... but for all I know it wasn't that bad in California

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Jen0125
12/05/22 5:49:34 PM
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Why not?
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Zareth
12/05/22 6:35:15 PM
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Ah yes, the notorious slave state of California

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Rasmoh
12/05/22 6:44:30 PM
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While I don't support reparations of any kind, I also know that the information from Fox News is likely not accurate.

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Gaawa_chan
12/05/22 6:49:38 PM
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I wouldn't mind it because it would probably end up addressing a lot of other problems, but this really should be done on the national level; Lincoln intended it to be done on the national level, but after he was murdered, his VP rescinded it and *took back what had been given.* So it's not a matter of whether we can or should do it; we can and we did and then we backtracked on it. It's a matter of whether or not we want to (by we I mean the country, I'm not assigning personal responsibility to individuals, don't get your panties in a twist).

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BigOlePappy
12/05/22 7:12:53 PM
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Fox News? It must be true and not biased at all!!!!!!!

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Jen0125
12/05/22 7:23:12 PM
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Gaawa_chan posted...
I wouldn't mind it because it would probably end up addressing a lot of other problems, but this really should be done on the national level; Lincoln intended it to be done on the national level, but after he was murdered, his VP rescinded it and *took back what had been given.* So it's not a matter of whether we can or should do it; we can and we did and then we backtracked on it. It's a matter of whether or not we want to (by we I mean the country, I'm not assigning personal responsibility to individuals, don't get your panties in a twist).

yeah, i mean this says it's specifically targeted the housing inequity for black americans. i don't really see how that's a problem if the inequity is due to systemic issues with racism and discriminatory practices. why SHOULDN'T they receive something to give them equal footing?
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Lokarin
12/05/22 7:58:41 PM
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Zareth posted...
Ah yes, the notorious slave state of California

Not all reparations are due to slavery - this is likely in relation to redlining.

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Gaawa_chan
12/05/22 10:31:50 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
yeah, i mean this says it's specifically targeted the housing inequity for black americans. i don't really see how that's a problem if the inequity is due to systemic issues with racism and discriminatory practices. why SHOULDN'T they receive something to give them equal footing?

Lokarin posted...
this is likely in relation to redlining.

Then yeah I absolutely support this. The law fucked these families over; restitution of this nature could make a huge difference in their lives.

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jsb0714
12/05/22 10:31:56 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
yeah, i mean this says it's specifically targeted the housing inequity for black americans. i don't really see how that's a problem if the inequity is due to systemic issues with racism and discriminatory practices. why SHOULDN'T they receive something to give them equal footing?

Are they including anything to actually fix the problem?
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ReturnOfFa
12/05/22 10:33:10 PM
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that would be awesome

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Jen0125
12/05/22 10:40:43 PM
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jsb0714 posted...
Are they including anything to actually fix the problem?

The money fixes their inability to put money into housing. It's impossible to fix systemic racism it seems because of racist politicians. Crazy how that works. So instead tax payers have to throw even more money at it more directly.
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SantaKhala
12/06/22 12:50:46 AM
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Taxation is theft.

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Lokarin
12/06/22 2:27:57 AM
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SantaKhala posted...
Taxation is theft.

Only if you are number 1.

Ok, lets say you are one of the top 5 companies... oh, and there are 1 billion losers in the country too.

With fair unilateral taxation those top 2nd~5th companies ALL BENEFIT from the taxes the #1 pays. It's a self-fullfilling anti-monopoly mechanic.

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Gaawa_chan
12/06/22 5:13:19 AM
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SantaKhala posted...
Taxation is theft.
In the same way that Capitalism is, sure. But you don't give a shit about the fact that the largest form of theft is wage theft, do you? Suck on that leather some more; how will the billionaires and multi-millionaires of California ever survive without you to protect them from taxes?

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hungrymike
12/06/22 11:46:16 AM
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Gaawa_chan posted...
how will the billionaires and multi-millionaires of California ever survive without you to protect them from taxes?
You do know it is not just billionaires and millionaires that pay taxes right?
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Count_Drachma
12/12/22 7:11:13 PM
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Gaawa_chan posted...
But you don't give a shit about the fact that the largest form of theft is wage theft, do you?

What do you think taxes are? lol. Takes a large chunk from my paychecks, far larger than I've ever been screwed by an employer

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mharbenedict34
12/12/22 7:41:29 PM
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Yes do it. From what I read being black can be exhausting and this will help race relations to have white people be genuinely sorry.

they should also let people who are descendants of the transatlantic slave trade be tax free
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mharbenedict34
12/12/22 7:44:37 PM
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It needs to be done discreetly and professionally too. I live in constant fear of being murdered for my 60,000$ fortune I saved up from working 10 years while living with my parents.

I cant imagine the kind of paranoia someone with 200k would feel.
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GuillermoGage
12/12/22 9:09:32 PM
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Does this type of reparations answer the question of "who counts as black?" as far as mixed-race people are concerned?

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Krazy_Kirby
12/13/22 1:18:38 AM
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GuillermoGage posted...
Does this type of reparations answer the question of "who counts as black?" as far as mixed-race people are concerned?


I guess that get a percentage?

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nesspoojeff
12/13/22 1:27:54 AM
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I take everything from Fox News with a grain of salt but this actually makes sense. Doubt it actually good through though.

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Zedonra
12/13/22 2:03:35 AM
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I'm a leftist but this is not the way. There's just no 'fair' way to do it. Families get rich and get broke all the time so even though there is an advantage to the past it is not everything. Helping poor people should not be biased towards any particular race.

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