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LuisSera
12/05/22 9:04:15 PM
#301:


Wow, your Rinkah did well on Speed, but got screwed everywhere else.

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Mewtwo59
12/05/22 9:17:24 PM
#302:


Wait, Rinkah passes down pink hair?

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UshiromiyaEva
12/05/22 9:24:50 PM
#303:


Rinkah is Mitama's mom, Sakura is Rhajat's. I guess Mitama's looks pinkish but I think it's because it's all glossy just like her eyes.

And then Caeldori...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/3/2/AAeolZAAD9QU.jpg

And this is it for the kids for me. I'm learning my lesson from Awakening and am moving forward briskly.

I'm using a lot more kids in Conquest, but I also know I can't grind in Conquest so the more Paralogues the better.

If I can't get the same sex patch to work, I plan to exclusively use Royals and Royal children in conquest (cannon father side royal children, that is) in Revelations.

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SSBM_Guy
12/05/22 9:29:04 PM
#304:


UshiromiyaEva posted...


If I can't get the same sex patch to work, I plan to exclusively use Royals and Royal children in conquest (cannon father side royal children, that is) in Revelations.

This is the way to go. I remember going on an anti-royal binge in Revelations and it screwed me over hard in one map that forced me to use 8 Dragon Veins. I had to carry Corrin everywhere.

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TeamRocketElite
12/05/22 9:30:28 PM
#305:


Did you drop Azura from that run as well?

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UshiromiyaEva
12/05/22 9:34:05 PM
#306:


Actually I assume royals can cross marry eachother, so I could make that work AND make sure everyone gets a kid, lol.

That's....that's literally 16 characters, which is the standard FE roster anount.

They planned this!

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UshiromiyaEva
12/05/22 10:09:57 PM
#307:


Healers always come first!

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Xiahou_Shake
12/05/22 10:47:40 PM
#308:


A few of the recent posts made me wonder - what have your habits been about deployment throughout the series? I know a lot of folks like to deploy less than the permitted amount to beef people up faster but I feel like I have enough trouble whittling down the characters I want to use even to the maximum allowance!

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KamikazePotato
12/05/22 10:48:25 PM
#309:


Deploying less than what's allowed sounds like crazy talk.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/05/22 10:53:21 PM
#310:


Xiahou_Shake posted...
A few of the recent posts made me wonder - what have your habits been about deployment throughout the series? I know a lot of folks like to deploy less than the permitted amount to beef people up faster but I feel like I have enough trouble whittling down the characters I want to use even to the maximum allowance!

I know lower deployment is a valid strategy depending on the map, but not something I can really do. I know it last me some bonus exp on a couple Tellius maps.

The only time I ever deploy less is if I have someone severely in need of levels and I'm making a moving bubble of defense around them to feed them kills. Viability for that veries depending on the map of course.

I always build a squad if 16, though. I think there was one game which capped at 18 for the final boss and I came up short there?

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UshiromiyaEva
12/05/22 10:56:26 PM
#311:


"Fuck you": Rank Up is at an all time high in this game, lol.

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TeamRocketElite
12/05/22 11:03:55 PM
#312:


I used to cycle through every playable character in the game and always brought the lowest level characters and played the map to keep everyone's level balanced. More recently, I just cycle through 12-14ish characters keeping everyone equal levelled.

KamikazePotato posted...
Deploying less than what's allowed sounds like crazy talk.


Isn't that what optimum Awakening looks like? Like have 2 units paired up and spam Nosferatu or something. I never tried it myself so maybe I got some part of it wrong.

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KamikazePotato
12/05/22 11:07:06 PM
#313:


That sounds like a really miserable way to play though. If I'm going to reduce a game to a pure numbers calculation, I'd rather just play Cookie Clicker.

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MalcolmMasher
12/05/22 11:28:50 PM
#314:


A few of the recent posts made me wonder - what have your habits been about deployment throughout the series? I know a lot of folks like to deploy less than the permitted amount to beef people up faster but I feel like I have enough trouble whittling down the characters I want to use even to the maximum allowance!

I'd say that usually I end up trying to rotate through, not the whole party, but a handful more characters than any given chapter actually allows. Using characters is fun!

Isn't that what optimum Awakening looks like? Like have 2 units paired up and spam Nosferatu or something.
That sounds like a really miserable way to play though. If I'm going to reduce a game to a pure numbers calculation, I'd rather just play Cookie Clicker.

Both of these sound accurate to me.

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MysteriousStan
12/05/22 11:31:52 PM
#315:


Full deployment of my core team. Which changes from playthrough to playthrough.
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tcaz2
12/05/22 11:41:24 PM
#316:


Trying to remember who I married on my first Birthright playthrough (which was actually with an English patch pre-English release).

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UshiromiyaEva
12/05/22 11:47:36 PM
#317:




The combination of near Awakening levels of freedom but standard FE Master Seal quantity limitations (at least right now) is messing with me! Everyone is getting near 20 and I only have 3 of these things left after using one on Sakura.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/5/1/AAeolZAAD9SL.jpg

So like...I can buy....copies of units or something? Not sure I'm fully getting this.

Also why was this man naked....what did he mean by this...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/5/3/AAeolZAAD9SN.jpg

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UshiromiyaEva
12/06/22 12:35:24 AM
#318:


Why is the entirety of the F!Corrin/Sakura support the same length as any other single rank of support for just about any other character?

Also when researching for the future I found out that M!Corrin/Azura...does NOT get both kids which is VERY dumb.

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TeamRocketElite
12/06/22 12:52:02 AM
#319:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Also when researching for the future I found out that M!Corrin/Azura...does NOT get both kids which is VERY dumb.


Where did you hear this? I haven't tried it myself but Corrin's kid and Azura's kid can have a support as siblings so it seems like it is possible.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/06/22 12:57:03 AM
#320:


Apparently I misread, and the issue is that if Corrin marries Azura in Revelations it's impossible to get EVERY child since there aren't enough viable pairings left.

Which, like...yeah don't care lol.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/06/22 1:42:06 AM
#321:


Yeah yeah whatever you Deviantart fuck GIMME THE KID.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/4/5/AAeolZAAD9Tp.jpg

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Kenri
12/06/22 2:43:02 AM
#322:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Also why was this man naked....what did he mean by this...
Sophie's skill strips enemies, because Fates is an embarrassingly horny game

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UshiromiyaEva
12/06/22 2:49:35 AM
#323:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/7/1/AAeolZAAD9UD.jpg

Baybee

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Panthera
12/06/22 6:41:30 AM
#324:


TeamRocketElite posted...


Isn't that what optimum Awakening looks like? Like have 2 units paired up and spam Nosferatu or something. I never tried it myself so maybe I got some part of it wrong.

That's the meme but in practice you still usually want to deploy as many people as you're allowed to, you only have 2-3 combat pairs that are capable of going off on one man army (well, two man army I guess) missions but you can still have others that can at least kill something here and there and you want rallies and staff users and Olivia.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/06/22 3:45:20 PM
#325:


Really loving all these unique promotions for this game and the out there weapon combinations. The feudal Japanese aesthetic of Birthright isn't my fav, but I do like the variety, especially after playing so many FE games in a row so fast.

I imagine Conquest will be a lot more traditional outside of mage wyverns.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/06/22 4:14:30 PM
#326:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/2/5/AAeolZAAD9bJ.jpg

The CG that launched a thousand pixivs.

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Kenri
12/06/22 4:41:46 PM
#327:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Really loving all these unique promotions for this game and the out there weapon combinations. The feudal Japanese aesthetic of Birthright isn't my fav, but I do like the variety, especially after playing so many FE games in a row so fast.

I imagine Conquest will be a lot more traditional outside of mage wyverns.
Maybe I'm just unadventurous but I didn't really find much obvious use for the Hoshidan classes so I didn't even bother to try to make them work. A lot of them felt like bad STR/MAG split classes that can't do either super well.

That said there was at least one that was super broken... Trying to remember what it was called. Machinist I think?

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UshiromiyaEva
12/06/22 4:49:59 PM
#328:


I like Str/Mag splits! Not just as an FE thing, Spellblade/Red Mage and the like are my favorite type of PG class. If only Tactician wasn't Avatar locked!

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/6/6/AAeolZAAD9by.jpg

FINALLY

Words cannot express how much I hated getting screwed out of Scarlet in Revelations on launch, after I didn't use her in Birthright specifically to save using her for Rev. This is my most anticipated unit I've been looking forward to finally getting since I started the FE game marathon, lol.


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Kenri
12/06/22 4:54:00 PM
#329:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
I like Str/Mag splits! Not just as an FE thing, Spellblade/Red Mage and the like are my favorite type of PG class. If only Tactician wasn't Avatar locked!
I like them in theory! Give me a red mage in FF any day!

But they're bad in FE with a few exceptions.

UshiromiyaEva posted...
Words cannot express how much I hated getting screwed out of Scarlet in Revelations on launch, after I didn't use her in Birthright specifically to save using her for Rev.
lol I planned to use both Scarlet and Izana in Revelation. big oof.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/06/22 4:55:49 PM
#330:


Optimally I'd want a character that has high weapon ranks but low strength/high Mag, no tome rank, but in a game where magical weapons are standard/plentiful.

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Panthera
12/06/22 4:59:52 PM
#331:


Kenri posted...


That said there was at least one that was super broken... Trying to remember what it was called. Machinist I think?

Machinist itself is just decent, but the Replicate skill it gives at level 15 is ludicrous.

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KamikazePotato
12/06/22 5:02:21 PM
#332:


I like how this topic hasn't mentioned a single thing, good or bad, about Birthright's actual plot yet

Seems appropriate

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Kenri
12/06/22 5:02:25 PM
#333:


Yeah I guess Replicate is really all I meant

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UshiromiyaEva
12/06/22 5:11:19 PM
#334:


KamikazePotato posted...
I like how this topic hasn't mentioned a single thing, good or bad, about Birthright's actual plot yet

Seems appropriate

Ehhhh I mean, it's....it's here? I think the entire structure they went with kind of makes it difficult for me to get invested.

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tcaz2
12/06/22 5:15:26 PM
#335:


Birthright has the best plot in Fates ENTIRELY because its literally as standard as an FE plot can be so they didn't have a chance to write anything too dumb if you discount the 2nd gen thing.
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MysteriousStan
12/06/22 5:38:42 PM
#336:


I literally do not remember any of the major plot beats in Birthright. I do remember thinking the logical leaps being made between chapters was ridiculous but actually trying to recall them now and...I'm getting a big old blank.
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tcaz2
12/06/22 6:42:24 PM
#337:


Random question for everyone: Whats your favorite FE class?

Mine is either Pegasus/Falcon Knight or Troubadors. Not sure. Is it because they're usually all female and usually really cute? Probably! But I do like their gameplay too.
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UshiromiyaEva
12/06/22 6:48:58 PM
#338:


I still prefer a good old fashioned Swordmaster.

Blade Lord would be my answer for a one-off. Lyn crit animation living rent free in my head.

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LuisSera
12/06/22 6:49:44 PM
#339:


I've always liked the really mobile magic classes like Valkyries and Dark Fliers.

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KamikazePotato
12/06/22 6:50:42 PM
#340:


Lyn convinced an entire swathe of people that Myrmidon archetypes are the coolest.

I'm one of them.

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SSBM_Guy
12/06/22 7:04:48 PM
#341:


There's some interesting story beats in Birthright. I thought it was interesting that they held one of the Fates bosses hostage for like 3 chapters. I think Zola was his name? I just find it interesting that they kept a one-off boss around for that long.

Some of my favorite classes are Swordmaster, Trickster, Thief Fighter, Hero, and Sniper. Their general aesthetic are just always good. I think the Lord classes in 3 Houses are all excellent too. Thinking on it, GBA animations are still just top-class. Swordmaster is the obvious choice, but Assassin, Sage, Hero, Nomad Trooper...there's so many A+ crit animations. The only game that comes close in style for animations is Fates.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/06/22 7:11:49 PM
#342:


Yeah the Zola stuff was neat mainly because of how it ended.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/06/22 7:14:43 PM
#343:


The best GBA animations are the ones that have super tiny little ticks before they pop off, stuff like the Assasin shifting slightly or Lyn popping the hilt.

Also GBA animations are the only reason anyone cares about Generals in this franchise. The linked chain aspect of their animations was peak, and it's insane that they've yet to bring the chain back again for any of the 3D games.

Shoot you're axe at the enemy like it's a fucking cannon ball.

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Xiahou_Shake
12/06/22 7:15:48 PM
#344:


I'm super excited that Engage seems to be stepping up animations because yeah, GBA era has yet to be topped.

Count me among the eternal saps for the Myrmidon line. There was really no going back after Lyn, if you want to count her, but even besides her there's a sense of style about the class that's really hard to top for me.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/06/22 7:19:16 PM
#345:


I love Path of Radiance, but it was about as bad as FE animations have ever been in terms of relation to the era they were released.

Path of Radiance fliers....ooooof.

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MalcolmMasher
12/06/22 7:21:34 PM
#346:


Fighter/Warrior. While they're rarely good, I've consistently found the axe guys to be entertaining.

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MysteriousStan
12/06/22 8:08:56 PM
#347:


Hero was always my favorite class. Really like Swordmasters and Berserkers as well. Reading this topic I'm reminded I really like Paladins as well.

Also yeah count me among those that consider GBA to be top tier animations. I honestly don't think 3D animations will be able to bring to the table what the GBA did. Just from a design perspective I don't think they're sitting their going "let's go hard as fuck with the battle animations this time." Not exactly a priority. =/
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UshiromiyaEva
12/06/22 8:20:26 PM
#348:


Went straight from being worries about seals to being able to promote every single unit in my crew after the shop upgrade.

Left Takumi last for the next one that drops, since his personal weapon means he doesn't need it anytime soon.

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KamikazePotato
12/06/22 8:23:20 PM
#349:


GBA animations were legitimately the best part of those games.

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Mewtwo59
12/06/22 8:31:30 PM
#350:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Left Takumi last for the next one that drops, since his personal weapon means he doesn't need it anytime soon.

They give Takumi a personal weapon that lowers his movement costs over all terrain to 1, and then one of his promotion options is a flyer. I don't think they thought that one through.

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