Board 8 > 2022-23 Horror Topic: Yes Chef!

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straight into the sun

3 freaking hours, really Ari Aster.

I gotta say I'm not super looking forward to it, so it'll be hard for it to let me down.

Ah fuck.

After Midsommar I definitely need to see reviews for this one. Especially with it being three hours. The worst part of Midsommar was how long it was and how much they could have trimmed to make a better film.

Just saw Renfield. It was an extremely fun time and Nicholas Cage was perfect.

Just finished watching Swarm on Amazon Prime! Really interesting show. It has its ups and downs, but overall it's a great look at toxic fandom culture. It's entirely created by Donald Glover and it is wildly chaotic.

S Tier:

1. Scream VI
2. M3GAN

A Tier:

3. Re/Member
4. She Came From the Woods
5. Knock at the Cabin
6. Bunker
7. Cocaine Bear
8. 65

B Tier

9. Infinity Pool
10. Malum
11. Inside
12. Nefarious

C Tier

13. Enys Men
14. The Strays
15. Consecration
16. Trinket Box
17. Spoonful of Sugar
18. Unwelcome
19. Hunt Her, Kill Her

D Tier

20. Children of the Corn
21. Fear
22. Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey
23. The Outwaters

F Tier

24. Skinamarink

So the first film we checked from this weekend's releases ended up being Nefarious, because it was the one we were definitely paying for regardless. I did have a pretty big problem with a few aspects of the movie... at times it feels preachy with a conservative Christian message. They also put Glenn fucking Beck in the movie. But, probably the best acting of the year so far in Sean Patrick Flanery. It's hard to deny his work here even if you despise the message the film seems to want to send.

Because I know a lot of people were big fans of Speak No Evil (on Shudder!), but it looks like they're doing a remake with James McAvoy.

https://twitter.com/BDisgusting/status/1648041774873559040?s=20

Edit: If James McAvoy doesn't say "That's not dancing." in this film then fuck it what are you even bothering for?

Not entirely sure why they're remaking a movie 2 years after its release but then again they did it with The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo and Let Me In and they worked just fine

just a very odd practice

Johnbobb posted...

Not entirely sure why they're remaking a movie 2 years after its release but then again they did it with The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo and Let Me In and they worked just fine

just a very odd practice

Because Americans will not watch a movie with subtitles.

It's just too much.

PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

Because Americans will not watch a movie with subtitles.

It's just too much.

Yeeeaaahhh....my sister (a fellow horror fan) pretty much refuses to, and it drives me nuts

PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

Because Americans will not watch a movie with subtitles.

It's just too much.

Quarantine came out literally less than a year after [REC]

I struggle to think of any horror movies that benefit from an Americanized remake honestly.

The Ring is the only one that jumps out at me, but I'm sure there's a few others.

But everything else? Mostly just a step down quality-wise.

I don't think 'Beau' would be classified as horror, but it's a hell of a ride

S Tier:

1. Scream VI
2. M3GAN

A Tier:

3. Re/Member
4. She Came From the Woods
5. Knock at the Cabin
6. Bunker
7. Cocaine Bear
8. Renfield
9. 65

B Tier

10. Infinity Pool
11. Malum
12. Inside
13. Nefarious

C Tier

14. Enys Men
15. The Strays
16. Consecration
17. Trinket Box
18. Spoonful of Sugar
19. Unwelcome
20. Hunt Her, Kill Her

D Tier

21. Children of the Corn
22. Fear
23. Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey
24. The Outwaters

F Tier

25. Skinamarink

I found Renfield pretty enjoyable. Great performances from Cage and Hoult. It's a simple story but the acting and gore is over the top fun. I'm sad this movie is bombing in the box office. I really don't think it deserves that. Not the best film of the year or anything but I enjoyed it on the same level as Cocaine Bear and that was a big hit. Oh well.

S Tier:

1. Scream VI
2. M3GAN

A Tier:

3. Re/Member
4. She Came From the Woods
5. Knock at the Cabin
6. Bunker
7. Cocaine Bear
8. Renfield
9. 65
10. The Pope's Exorcist

B Tier

11. Infinity Pool
12. Malum
13. Inside
14. Nefarious

C Tier

15. Enys Men
16. The Strays
17. Consecration
18. Trinket Box
19. Spoonful of Sugar
20. Unwelcome
21. Hunt Her, Kill Her

D Tier

22. Children of the Corn
23. Fear
24. Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey
25. The Outwaters

F Tier

26. Skinamarink

Pope's Exorcist was a pretty good exorcism based horror. Mostly carried by Crowe and Zovatto's performances, it's a film that starts off pretty weak feeling but ramps up as it goes on. The supporting cast is so so, I think most possessed children performances will always be compared to The Exorcist but if you don't view that film with nostalgia glasses, was Regan really that believable or better than what we see today? I realize that might be a sacrilegious opinion, but I don't feel the standard is all that golden. Pretty solid releases for all 3 major releases last week. Looking forward to Evil Dead Rise for sure, probably on Monday. Beau... some time, not sure when yet.

S Tier:

1. Scream VI
2. M3GAN
3. Evil Dead Rise

A Tier:

4. Re/Member
5. She Came From the Woods
6. Knock at the Cabin
7. Bunker
8. Cocaine Bear
9. Renfield
10. 65
11. The Pope's Exorcist

B Tier

12. Infinity Pool
13. Malum
14. Inside
15. Nefarious

C Tier

16. Enys Men
17. The Strays
18. Consecration
19. Trinket Box
20. Spoonful of Sugar
21. Unwelcome
22. Hunt Her, Kill Her

D Tier

23. Leave
24. Children of the Corn
25. Fear
26. Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey
27. The Outwaters

F Tier

28. Skinamarink

Two films. First we watched Shudder's exclusive "Leave", and well out of all the movies I've seen this year... it was one of them. Pretty underwhelming stuff. The premise is interesting and I was engaged at around the 20 minute mark but things really fizzled out in the second half. I was looking for something a lot less grounded in reality. I think the biggest flaw in the film was the acting though. Not that most of the cast wasn't fine, but the lead actress could not hold an accent properly. I know this movie was filmed in Norway and the cast is mostly European but seriously, don't write your film and say that your main character is American then. It's just not going to work if you don't have someone talented enough to hide their natural accent, and she just couldn't do it.

Secondly, tonight we checked out Evil Dead Rise. It delivers on what you think it should; a bloody, gory mess that pulls very few punches. Did I mention blood? It's a great revisit to a franchise that I'm usually not sure what it wants to do. There are very few of those "zany" moments that Army of Darkness introduced, though I can think of one little callback to that perhaps. But it's dark, twisted and again, very bloody. It's definitely firmly in the realm of what most people would think about being classically horror, at least in modern times. Tons of great moments and over the top disturbing delights.

S Tier:

1. Scream VI
2. M3GAN
3. Evil Dead Rise

A Tier:

4. Re/Member
5. Beau is Afraid
6. She Came From the Woods
7. Knock at the Cabin
8. Bunker
9. Cocaine Bear
10. Renfield
11. 65
12. The Pope's Exorcist

B Tier

13. Infinity Pool
14. Malum
15. Inside
16. Nefarious

C Tier

17. Enys Men
18. The Strays
19. Consecration
20. Trinket Box
21. Spoonful of Sugar
22. Unwelcome
23. Hunt Her, Kill Her

D Tier

24. Leave
25. Children of the Corn
26. Fear
27. Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey
28. The Outwaters

F Tier

29. Skinamarink

We've survived Ari Aster's seemingly endless odyssey... but, and I'm pretty surprised to be saying this, it didn't seem like a 3 hour film. I had a ton of reservations about this one but ultimately I found it to be a unique and enjoyable experience. "Experience" is certainly what you can say about this movie. How much of a horror film is it? I'm not really sure, there are certainly plenty of classical horror moments but they are here and there and this is again a very long one. But A24 classifies it as a horror film so I will go with them on it. I think the difference between me liking this and not liking Midsommar is that this one didn't have a tonal shift halfway through like that one did. Ultimately, because Midsommar presented itself as pretty classical in its first half or so caused me to create expectations of the film, which it failed to live up to. I didn't like the direction the film decided to go in, like at all. This one however... it really has basically the same sort of tone the entire way. Not that you ever really know where it's going, and the film doesn't usually seem to know either, but it's in a good way. Pretty surprised to be ranking this one up high.

I hated Beau is Afraid

I can definitely see someone hating Beau. I think it has all the potential to be one of those hugely polarizing films where there's very little in-between ground. I may have ranked it a little too highly but I'll have to revisit those thoughts later perhaps, but I still think it was good to me because I expected so little of it. Hereditary was one of my favorite films of all time so when Midsommar was on its way out, I was super hyped. Considering it was his debut, I expected something huge out of that film from Ari Aster's sophomore session and I was very depressed by the time Midsommar's credits were rolling. I'm not really sure how I'd feel about that film if Hereditary hadn't existed; I still think I'd not look at it very fondly, but perhaps I wouldn't have complete disdain for it as I do now. I can't really think about Midsommar and look at it without remembering the way it completely failed my expectations.

It was just reverse for this film. I went in expecting a shitshow, and it kinda still went down that way, but in a more pleasant format that what I was expecting. It does create an interesting feeling in me for whatever he does next though, I feel like it tempers my belief that he was only able to create one great film. While Beau is nowhere near Hereditary's near perfection, it did renew my faith somewhat in the director and writer that brought me one of my favorite movies.

I saw Beau Is Afraid!

it's been a while since a movie so thoroughly stressed me out for 3 straight hours

people who saw Evil Dead Rise, do I need to have seen Evil Dead 2013 to enjoy it?

No.

Johnbobb posted...

people who saw Evil Dead Rise, do I need to have seen Evil Dead 2013 to enjoy it?

No but you should watch it anyway because it's great too!

I just saw Beau is Afraid. What an absolutely insane ride. It didn't drag too much, but I still feel this didn't need to be 3 hours long. This movie could be trimmed down. I was wondering "Where the hell is this supposed to be going?" and was hoping it wasn't just all this insanity for the sake of having insanity, and fortunately by the end it does lend some clarity that, on thinking back to what we've watched, it's actually really, really good.

It won't be for everyone, but I thoroughly enjoyed what we got. I love the themes of this movie, and I think it's something I'd probably like even more on a re-watch... Which is daunting at 3 hours still.

If you're looking for something creative and artistic, and don't mind the length, I'd check it out. I enjoyed it far more than Midsommar, but not as much as Hereditary. It's a totally different movie though. I'd say it's an odyssey of uneasiness that rarely lets up. It's a feeling Ari Aster has mastered, certainly.

I really feel like I need to give Hereditary a second shot at some point now that I can go in prepared for what it actually is. I absolutely loathed it my first time through because I have a major pet peeve for stories that introduce paranormal elements partway through that fuck with whatever intrigue it had going on without them. I was completely on board and even downright enthralled when the movie was just about grief completely annihilating a family and the introduction of ghosts and all the associated stuff just completely soured the mix for me - it felt like I had a movie that I would have liked a lot more yanked away and left feeling kind of blueballed.

Also, now they all have 3 movies under their belt, where do people rank the current big 3?

1. Robert Eggers
2. Ari Aster
3. Jordan Peele

They're all very close imo

Ari (9.5/10 average) > Jordan (7.667/10 average) > Robert (7.5/10 average)

Beau brings Ari down to a 9.5 lol. I liked Lighthouse better than any of Jordan's movies, but all 3 of Jordan's are better than VVitch and Northman imo

1) Midsommar (10)
2) Hereditary (10)
3) Lighthouse (9)
4) Beau is Afraid (8.5)
5) Get Out (8.5)
6) Us (7.5)
7) Nope (7)
8) The VVitch (7)
9) The Northman (6.5)

Ultimately I have to go with Peele > Aster > Eggers

Woah that northman disrespect

I enjoyed The Northman a ton, but it's still probably second to last on this list of 9 movies, with Midsommar being dead last, so much lower than I'd rate The Northman.

Midsommar being so bad is probably why this is hard for me.

Peele is the first place for me, easy. If you took out Midsommar, I'd put Ari second. But with Midsommar included, I'd put Eggers above him.

Peele > Eggers > Aster easily for me.

1) Get Out
2) Us
3) The VVitch
4) The Lighthouse
5) Hereditary
6) Nope
7) The Northman
8) Midsommar
9) Beau is Afraid

Without having seen The Northman or Beau yet, I go Peele > Aster > Eggers.

1. Midsommar
2. Get Out
3. The VVitch
4. Nope
5. Us
6. Hereditary
7. The Lighthouse

I like The Northman, it just felt like a bit of a letdown after The Lighthouse. Like Eggers' other 2 movies though it's pretty visually stunning, and this is quite a set of 9 films so being last isn't really a knock on it at all.

my ratings for each on Letterboxd

1. The Lighthouse - 5
2. Beau is Afraid - 5
3. Nope - 5
4. The Northman - 5
5. Midsommar - 4.5
6. The VVitch - 4.5
7. Hereditary - 4.5
8. Get Out - 4.5
9. Us - 4.5

all this to say I've loved every movie I've seen from all three of them

Lighthouse is far and away my favorite of the nine though, it was an instant all-time favorite

The Northman is also a little difficult to compare to the others though since it's the least horror of all of them

I watched the first two episodes of From Season 2. It's still awesome and very slept on!

I didn't watch Northman because it wasn't a horror film. A little too much on my plate to watch every single film (and I avoid epics usually because of the length, though this one seems manageable).

Hereditary > Get Out > Us > Beau > Nope > The VVitch > The Lighthouse > Midsommar

Aster has my favorite film, but he also has my least favorite as well. Get Out is a really high placer for me all time, close enough that with Us being pretty good (retroactively, I feel like I liked it more than I thought I did). Nope is... underwhelming a massive disappointment in my opinion, but I really feel VVitch and Lighthouse are just super overrated. I guess I just don't like Eggers' movies that much. They're not "bad", just sort of I guess not my cup of tea.

S Tier:

1. Scream VI
2. M3GAN
3. Evil Dead Rise

A Tier:

4. Re/Member
5. Beau is Afraid
6. She Came From the Woods
7. Knock at the Cabin
8. Bunker
9. Cocaine Bear
10. Renfield
11. 65
12. The Pope's Exorcist

B Tier

13. Infinity Pool
14. Stalker
15. Malum
16. Inside
17. Nefarious

C Tier

18. Enys Men
19. The Strays
20. Consecration
21. Trinket Box
22. Spoonful of Sugar
23. Unwelcome
24. The Black Demon
25. Hunt Her, Kill Her

D Tier

26. Leave
27. Children of the Corn
28. Fear
29. Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey
30. The Outwaters

F Tier

31. Skinamarink

Two films watched. Firstly, we watched one called Stalker a few days ago. I first heard about this film because Bret Hart had a small part in it, so it had been on my radar and we ended up watching it on Prime. Pretty good film honestly, only thing that drags it down a bit is the "twist" near the end. I didn't really see it coming, though I thought about it a couple of times throughout the film also. The biggest issue with that is the audacity of her plan... she's duct taped a guy in an elevator, cut off his dick and then slit his throat. Also she drugged him. I mean no investigator is going to buy for a minute she was innocent, but perhaps that was intentional as she is only a B-list actress after all. But outside of that, it's a pretty great experience. I felt uneasy the entire way through until near the end. It creates a feeling sort of like Fall did, though it's not quite as masterclass when all's said and done.

The other is the year's first Man vs. Nature film, at least that I've seen so far, The Black Demon. Yay, a megladon movie! I know Meg 2 is due out later this year so I guess I look forward to comparing these movies, maybe? I wouldn't call it bad or good, it takes an idea that's been done a lot and adds a little more supernatural element to it, which I do appreciate over "here's a prehistoric shark that's survived somehow!". The acting can be a little choppy in places but as a whole I think the film is at decent. It's hard to really make a great, or even good, shark movie for some reason.

v_charon posted...

The other is the year's first Man vs. Nature film, at least that I've seen so far

Cocaine Bear!

Oh right, whoops. And I liked that one a lot more too.

I just saw Evil Dead Rise finally.

Fuck, what an absolutely awesome thrill ride. Pushes every boundary and looks so slick doing it. It may be my favorite horror movie this year. Incredible stuff. Huge recommend.

It's been a big success in the box office too which is always nice to see from a horror release.

Tried to watch a movie on Shudder but my speakers suck, must upgrade

S Tier:

1. Scream VI
2. M3GAN
3. Evil Dead Rise

A Tier:

4. Re/Member
5. Beau is Afraid
6. She Came From the Woods
7. Knock at the Cabin
8. Bunker
9. Cocaine Bear
10. Renfield
11. 65
12. The Pope's Exorcist

B Tier

13. Infinity Pool
14. Stalker
15. Malum
16. Inside
17. Nefarious

C Tier

18. Enys Men
19. The Strays
20. Consecration
21. Trinket Box
22. Spoonful of Sugar
23. Unwelcome
24. The Black Demon
25. Hunt Her, Kill Her

D Tier

26. Leave
27. The Headmistress
28. Children of the Corn
29. Fear
30. Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey

F Tier

31. The Outwaters
32. Skinamarink

New film added to the list, The Headmistress. It's uh... a movie. Found it on Amazon Prime. It has really high ratings from the people who have actually seen it, which doesn't appear to be very many. Sky high score on RT audience score and a pretty high mark on IMDb, which is always really difficult. That said, I'm not sure what those people were thinking. This is a really flawed film. There's a good premise here but that's about it; the acting is pretty subpar, there's really strange editing choices and the film doesn't do a great job of setting the plot up initially. It improves some as it gets going, and there are a few jumpscares here and there. It's just one of those low budget horror projects though, checks all those boxes. Tropes, one note characters, cringy dialogue and a really nonsensical ending.

I also decided Outwaters was bad enough to put down there with Skinamarink after all. There's just nothing redeeming about that final third of the film and it was pure torture to sit through.

S Tier:

1. Scream VI
2. M3GAN
3. Evil Dead Rise

A Tier:

4. Re/Member
5. Beau is Afraid
6. She Came From the Woods
7. Knock at the Cabin
8. Bunker
9. Cocaine Bear
10. Renfield
11. 65
12. The Pope's Exorcist

B Tier

13. Infinity Pool
14. Stalker
15. Malum
16. Inside
17. Nefarious
18. They Wait in the Dark

C Tier

19. Enys Men
20. The Strays
21. Consecration
22. Trinket Box
23. Spoonful of Sugar
24. Unwelcome
25. The Black Demon
26. Hunt Her, Kill Her

D Tier

27. Leave
28. The Headmistress
29. Children of the Corn
30. Fear
31. Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey

F Tier

32. The Outwaters
33. Skinamarink

More indie horror! They Wait in the Dark was another high scoring film with minimal watches; the reviewers were pretty divided on the film with most saying it was great and others criticizing the acting and dialogue. I personally thought it was fairly well done; it felt well shot and any effects used were practical and realistic looking. It tells a pretty good story with a twist that's hard to see coming for sure. It's a nice short film to check out if you'd like something decent while we're in the midst of this lull between mainstream releases of horror.

Boogeyman is out next month; expecting big things out of it.

S Tier:

1. Scream VI
2. M3GAN
3. Evil Dead Rise

A Tier:

4. Re/Member
5. Beau is Afraid
6. She Came From the Woods
7. Knock at the Cabin
8. Bunker
9. Cocaine Bear
10. Renfield
11. 65
12. The Pope's Exorcist

B Tier

13. Infinity Pool
14. Stalker
15. From Black
16. Malum
17. Inside
18. Nefarious
19. They Wait in the Dark

C Tier

20. Enys Men
21. The Strays
22. Consecration
23. Trinket Box
24. Spoonful of Sugar
25. Unwelcome
26. The Black Demon
27. Hunt Her, Kill Her

D Tier

28. Leave
29. The Headmistress
30. Children of the Corn
31. Fear
32. Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey

F Tier

33. The Outwaters
34. Skinamarink

Finished a Shudder movie we had tried to watch a week or so ago, From Black. Pretty solid one that focuses on the grief of child loss and what lengths people may go through to get those children back. I was interested initially because it stars John Ales, which I bet is probably an actor most people would "huh" at by I watched Nutty Professor about 50 times when I was a teenager so I remember him well. I did think the main character made a really bizarre decision near the end which I couldn't really comprehend, but overall it does a good job at building dread and the monster design is pretty good for an indie film.

I don't get how fans of the first two Evil Deads could like the new one. I thought it was overt and predictable fan service. I mean it's well-shot and all, but the characters are way too stupid right off the bat, and none of the scares are earned.

I mean I certainly wouldn't say the original Evil Dead film possessed much in the way of characters I'd consider to be intelligent.

https://youtu.be/pHR5V5hEKgE

Just saw The Boogeyman. Much better than I expected! A lot of scares and creative stuff they did with the settings and monster. The monster itself is seen a lot more than I expected, but it never lost what made it terrifying. Outstanding work with the monster itself because it always came across as a god damn nightmare.

Definitely recommend it.

Watched Winnie the Pooh: Bloody and Honey, expecting it to be bad.

I was still unprepared for how bad it would be.

S Tier:

1. Scream VI
2. M3GAN
3. Evil Dead Rise

A Tier:

4. Re/Member
5. Beau is Afraid
6. She Came From the Woods
7. Knock at the Cabin
8. Bunker
9. Cocaine Bear
10. Renfield
11. 65

B Tier

12. The Boogeyman
13. The Pope's Exorcist
14. Infinity Pool
15. Stalker
16. From Black
17. Malum
18. Inside
19. Nefarious
20. They Wait in the Dark

C Tier

21. Enys Men
22. The Strays
23. Consecration
24. Trinket Box
25. Spoonful of Sugar
26. Unwelcome
27. The Black Demon
28. Hunt Her, Kill Her

D Tier

29. Leave
30. The Headmistress
31. Children of the Corn
32. Fear
33. Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey

F Tier

34. The Outwaters
35. Skinamarink

The Boogeyman was... it's interesting, because looking at it by the end I would say it was a pretty good and effective film, though I think at times it is a little too by the numbers and predictable. But at the same time it did several things very well; I did like the monster design, but at times I was wanting a little more unnerving scenes. They were there, it just wasn't quite to the heights I had wanted from this movie. But I sort of expected it after I noticed this was a PG-13 rated film, which are a lot of times coming into the theater with their hands tied a bit. It's solid enough, but not quite A tier for me. That said I did think it was a little better than Pope's Exorcist so I had to demote that one down into the B tier as well.