Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 397: Rishi Rich

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LightningStrikes posted...

Question for Americans: given the doom over Florida, which happens first?

Democrats retake at least one of Ohio/Iowa or Democrats retake Florida?

Third option: The Democrats flip Texas sooner than they retake any of those.

And it'll be about ten more years before that happens.

Republicans are not going to just stop social security payments. What they might conceivably do is stop collecting social security taxes and print a ton of money to cover the payments. Then, if it's looking like that's creating a bubble that's about to burst, do everything in their power to make sure the burst happens when the Democrats are in office. Then blame everything on the Democrats.

https://twitter.com/ronfilipkowski/status/1590056231745781760?s=46&t=d10ZluJ0kvJKKzMSVLqczA

Good sign in Arizona

I procrastinated on filling out my ballot until last night since CA ballots are obscenely long (42 items if I remember my count from last night correctly). Im gonna drop it off in a dropbox on my way to lunch.

Mine in PA was... 6

Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/ronfilipkowski/status/1590056231745781760?s=46&t=d10ZluJ0kvJKKzMSVLqczA

Good sign in Arizona

Too bad they had to replace all the perfectly working machines from the audit. Maybe wouldn't be having so many issues. Hope the Republicans are proud of the amount of money they spent just for this to happen.

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https://twitter.com/chadloder/status/1590020935138316289?t=v3FVQnASGMq59fzrZ_uhaw&s=19

Helping people is punishable by death, by the way

https://twitter.com/bigmeaninternet/status/1589994286074187777?s=46&t=G4Q7183dq_arNDEFrsbkJg

Peace___Frog posted...

Mine in PA was... 6

My ballot in PA was 4 and one of the 4 was unopposed. Lol.

I guess tbf I only voted in 41 of them because the insurance commissioner race was between an incumbent with several ethics scandals and a Republican who appeared not to even understand what the job entailed

Do you guys with 6 and 4 just not have any local races? Do you run them on off years?

County ballot measure
Fetterman/ oz
House race (where Republicans ran an entirely unqualified guy because he shared a first and last name with the retiring democrat who has been representing this area forever)
Governor
State house race
One other local race that i don't remember because it was unopposed

Only one election on the ballot for me this year, but local/state elections are in off years here. There were still only six last year, though. How do other places have so many things on their ballots?

mine had a couple dozen I think? lotta judges and comptrollers and forest whatevers and other stuff

For me there were something like ten statewide offices (gov, lt gov, AG, SoS, controller, insurance commissioner, state superintendent, treasurer), like 15 yes/no votes on judicial appointments, House, Senate x2 (for the next term and for the rest of the current term since Padilla was appointed by Newsom), state assembly, a few local races (including school board and rent board which were vote for up to 3 or 5), and then like seven state ballot props and four local ones

It's pretty dumb; in particular, it's way too easy to get a proposition on the ballot in CA. Like this is the fourth election in a row where we're voting on a dialysis clinic regulation (not exactly something that I'd say is an appropriate question to bring directly to the voters) because a union is trying to pressure the dialysis clinics.

Governor, Senate, House and then a bunch of judges running unopposed (yuck) and like Comptroller, County Clerk, and state legislature races. Only 2 propositions.

I had ONE thing on my ballot today, and that's it.

Going to be honest, I never vote for judges. They never get recalled and it's not worth my time looking them up

I just leave them blank

https://twitter.com/ronfilipkowski/status/1590113879501045760?s=46&t=ACwd1S9Y36W0uK4hjd4Inw

Looks like we got this one

I'm confused, how would they know? Exit polls?

Honestly I think they're just throwing shit out there in case they are losing because if they win they'll just handwave it away and go "they cheated but we beat the fraud anyway" and the cult will nod along. I'm very cautious to read anything into it.

Thorn posted...

Honestly I think they're just throwing shit out there in case they are losing because of they win they'll just handwave it away and go "they cheated but we beat the fraud anyway" and the cult will nod along. I'm very cautious to read anything into it.

Nah that's exactly what it is. Lake was calling it fraud prior to the primary results too. Then she won, and crickets. Well, until now.

The # 1 issue being inflation is a sad testament to how fucking stupid people are.

https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1590069524375953408?s=46&t=ACwd1S9Y36W0uK4hjd4Inw

SirChris posted...

The # 1 issue being inflation is a sad testament to how fucking stupid people are.

Anyone else remember back when the left hated that voters always focused on social issues instead of economic ones? Funny how that's changed so much this year.

Then again regarding AZ: https://twitter.com/Victorshi2020/status/1590114046677700609

Could mean good things here.

So sounds like good signs in Wisconsin based on turnout of youth, especially young women? Still may not be enough though.

SirChris posted...

The # 1 issue being inflation is a sad testament to how fucking stupid people are.

And it's why we're so absolutely fucked. Any woman who says "Abortion is important... but gas prices!" is 100% to blame for it when women die because of this law, and they need to be held to count for it when the time comes. Same goes for when they take away rights from LGBT people, when they erode voting rights further, when they cut healthcare. I hope people will continue reminding them how fucking stupid they are.

Dancedreamer posted...

And it's why we're so absolutely fucked. Any woman who says "Abortion is important... but gas prices!" is 100% to blame for it when women die because of this law, and they need to be held to count for it when the time comes. Same goes for when they take away rights from LGBT people, when they erode voting rights further, when they cut healthcare. I hope people will continue reminding them how fucking stupid they are.

Any woman has the absolute right to prioritize gas prices over abortion. Any LGBT person has the absolute right to prioritize gas prices over LGBT rights. You will not get anywhere by blaming people for exercising their right to vote how they want.

Inflation is a pretty big deal, it makes sense that that would be the top priority for many voters (not that electing Republicans would actually improve the situation). It's a much better reason to vote than typical R boogeymen; it's a real problem at least.

LordoftheMorons posted...

Inflation is a pretty big deal, it makes sense that that would be the top priority for many voters (not that electing Republicans would actually improve the situation). It's a much better reason to vote than typical R boogeymen; it's a real problem at least.

Out of inflation, recession, and war, I think inflation is clearly the least bad! So people who say that things have never been this bad have lost their sense of perspective. And of course electing Republicans won't stop inflation.

Dancedreamer posted...

And it's why we're so absolutely fucked. Any woman who says "Abortion is important... but gas prices!" is 100% to blame for it when women die because of this law, and they need to be held to count for it when the time comes. Same goes for when they take away rights from LGBT people, when they erode voting rights further, when they cut healthcare. I hope people will continue reminding them how fucking stupid they are.

Why limit that condemnation to women?

LordoftheMorons posted...

Inflation is a pretty big deal, it makes sense that that would be the top priority for many voters (not that electing Republicans would actually improve the situation). It's a much better reason to vote than typical R boogeymen; it's a real problem at least.

Not when it comes to voting. Inflation is not something politicians can push a button and fix. Inflation has so many complex factors involved it's stupid to vote based on it. Sure, it's a real issue. But it's also a real issue that can't be simply fixed by a change in power. And that people think it is, is exactly why this country is so fucked up beyond belief.

LordoftheMorons posted...

Inflation is a pretty big deal, it makes sense that that would be the top priority for many voters (not that electing Republicans would actually improve the situation). It's a much better reason to vote than typical R boogeymen; it's a real problem at least.

No, it really isn't. Inflation is causing harm all across the globe and republican policies do nothing to curb it. So it's just an excuse to be shitty tbh

SirChris posted...

No, it really isn't. Inflation is causing harm all across the globe and republican policies do nothing to curb it. So it's people being complete morons

Fixed that for you

People are just so completely stupid. If they were malicious instead of idiots they wouldn't die of covid in droves taking horse dewormers

Jakyl25 posted...

Why limit that condemnation to women?

Oh they're to blame too, but I have zero expectations of men at this point. Of course they don't care about abortion. If they're rich enough to vote Republican, they can fly their mistresses to Canada and get an abortion there.

masterplum posted...

Fixed that for you

People are just so completely stupid. If they were malicious instead of idiots they wouldn't die of covid in droves taking horse dewormers

There are definitely a good number of people where their desire to be malicious encourages them to remain willfully ignorant. Stupid vs. Shitty isn't a binary thing. There's grey areas of awful.

They can't press a button and instantly fix it, but they can influence it (most notably, both raising taxes and cutting spending would put downward pressure on inflation; there are also other things the president can do to affect it a bit like reducing tariffs). Part of the reason inflation got this bad was that in retrospect the ARP was probably too big, though of course if they had undershot instead of overshot we could have had a recession instead which would have been worse.

In many countries there is almost no divide on womens issues based on gender. In the abortion referendum in Ireland for instance, men and women voted basically the same. This makes sense as its about social factors not innate factors to your gender. However, the US has a much bigger political split between men and women than other countries because its just like that.

SirChris posted...

Inflation is causing harm all across the globe and republican policies do nothing to curb it.

Technically if Republicans could get the massive cuts in government spending they always ask for then that might actually put a dent in inflation. But a) it wouldn't work if they also passed tax cuts at the same time and b) voters wouldn't want spending cuts that large once they find out what exactly needs cut.

SirChris posted...

The # 1 issue being inflation is a sad testament to how fucking stupid people are.

Not sure if serious

Corrik7 posted...

Not sure if serious

Imagine a world where inflation is this bad but also we all have healthcare and union jobs. It would hurt a lot less!

Corrik7 posted...

Not sure if serious

Very serious. Inflation is a global issue. People who are blaming people within their country are pretty dumb

Even if you took the most US blame approach inflation was caused by mid pandemic spending which Republicans also liked at the time

masterplum posted...

Very serious. Inflation is a global issue. People who are blaming people within their country are pretty dumb

Even if you took the most US blame approach inflation was caused by mid pandemic spending which Republicans also liked at the time

The #1 issue doesn't have to be based on something that only affects America.

Xeybozn posted...

Technically if Republicans could get the massive cuts in government spending they always ask for then that might actually put a dent in inflation. But a) it wouldn't work if they also passed tax cuts at the same time and b) voters wouldn't want spending cuts that large once they find out what exactly needs cut.

Back when I was a republican I really believed in this ideal low government spending paradigm

Then the Republican party made it pretty obvious that they only wanted low government spending on poor people and were happy to offset it with subsidies to corporations and rich people and that was part of the reason I noped out

masterplum posted...

Very serious. Inflation is a global issue. People who are blaming people within their country are pretty dumb

Even if you took the most US blame approach inflation was caused by mid pandemic spending which Republicans also liked at the time

My understanding is that it's the worst in Europe because they're much more affected by the war in Ukraine, but that the US has worse inflation than non-European first world countries. The supply chain stuff was global, but that's not to say that we couldn't have had a few % lower inflation if we had perfectly calibrated our economic response to covid (which, yes, was bipartisan).

Kenri posted...

I would bet good money on Iowa of these 3.

As someone living in Iowa with family in Ohio I wouldn't.

We are only getting more red, and it's very sad.

I mean Iowa is about to become the 4th state to have Strict Scrutiny against gun laws/regulations in our constitution.

Tax cuts are an inflationary move. Just ask Liz Truss.

LightningStrikes posted...

Tax cuts are an inflationary move. Just ask Liz Truss.

Yep, which is why Rs won't be any better than Ds for reducing inflation!