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Smashingpmkns
10/14/22 9:44:08 PM
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https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1581093863455719424

Yeesh

Woops Gotham* Knights

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Bad_Mojo
10/14/22 9:45:02 PM
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PC Master Race wins again. Bet it will run on my Steam Deck as well

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MrWingnut
10/14/22 9:45:35 PM
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This is next gen exclusive right? Frames aren't a deal breaker for me, but this is disappointing nonetheless.
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Shabriri
10/14/22 9:45:57 PM
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Arkham Knights? are we getting a new arkham game i have just somehow completely missed?

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Irony
10/14/22 9:46:16 PM
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Hopefully it flops

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DarthAragorn
10/14/22 9:52:20 PM
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Shabriri posted...
Arkham Knights? are we getting a new arkham game i have just somehow completely missed?
Gotham Knights not Arkham Knights

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Shabriri
10/14/22 9:52:51 PM
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even still, i aint hearda that

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Punished_Blinx
10/14/22 10:07:56 PM
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My 3600 CPU is the minimum requirement for this game.

The hell?

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Flockaveli
10/14/22 10:08:55 PM
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Raytracing comes standard.
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2SweetforTurtle
10/14/22 10:11:51 PM
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Not ideal but that doesnt bother me much anyway. Hopefully we get 40fps and 60 fps down the line. Even if it means its only there for single player.

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The_X_Dawg
10/14/22 10:13:24 PM
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This sucks because now the game I was never going to buy is going to be even worse.
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Shadowplay
10/14/22 11:00:55 PM
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Thankfully, I got the memo a decade ago that it was time to stop buying these crippled PCs that you can't even customize.

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Punished_Blinx
10/14/22 11:50:16 PM
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The funniest thing about this is that Arkham Knight looks similar if not better to me.

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Xatrion
10/14/22 11:51:01 PM
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Consoles! They just work! Poorly!

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Atralis
10/14/22 11:51:28 PM
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This is such a fucking stupid metric that is mostly used by console kiddies that don't know what the fuck they are talking about. If you are trashing consoles for this as a "PC gamer" you aren't actually a pc gamer or else you would actually have fiddled with graphical settings on your own and tried to reach the best performance to fps ratio at some point and realized that 30 vs 60 doesn't fucking matter for a lot of games.

All this means is this that they are targeting 30 fps as the fps they want to meet for a SINGLE PLAYER console game. There isn't anything wrong with that.

Seriously I'm calling out every "pc master race" gamer in this topic talking shit about this. You aren't a real pc gamer. You are fucking lying. You have never owned a gaming pc. You have never built a pc. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

ALL OF YOU. Come at me. Say something. Pretend that you aren't so full of shit that its spilling out your ears and nose.
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NintendoFraud84
10/14/22 11:52:35 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
PC Master Race wins again. Bet it will run on my Steam Deck as well

At 60 fps?
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Giblet_Enjoyer
10/14/22 11:58:45 PM
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Atralis posted...
This is such a fucking stupid metric that is mostly used by console kiddies that don't know what the fuck they are talking about. If you are trashing consoles for this as a "PC gamer" you aren't actually a pc gamer or else you would actually have fiddled with graphical settings on your own and tried to reach the best performance to fps ratio at some point and realized that 30 vs 60 doesn't fucking matter for a lot of games.

All this means is this that they are targeting 30 fps as the fps they want to meet for a SINGLE PLAYER console game. There isn't anything wrong with that.

Seriously I'm calling out every "pc master race" gamer in this topic talking shit about this. You aren't a real pc gamer. You are fucking lying. You have never owned a gaming pc. You have never built a pc. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

ALL OF YOU. Come at me. Say something. Pretend that you aren't so full of shit that its spilling out your ears and nose.
I game on PC and 30 fps (except maybe on handhelds) is yucky

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Smackems
10/15/22 12:00:55 AM
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Irony posted...
Hopefully it flops


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Prestoff
10/15/22 12:01:33 AM
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I'll be honest, I'm not going to be buying this game but 60fps is mostly ideal for multiplayer competitive games that require down to the button perfect timing and reflexes like Fighters.

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Atralis
10/15/22 12:01:57 AM
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Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
I game on PC and 30 fps (except maybe on handhelds) is yucky

Have you ever built a pc? Do you actually play games on the PC that have been made in the past 5-10 years? Do you play any games on the PC that weren't designed to run on a toaster? What graphics card do you have.

Answer these questions or your opinion doesn't fucking matter when we are making comparisons to a PS5 game. You can't say "I only play at 60 fps or higher" when you are playing fucking League of Legends (2009).
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Punished_Blinx
10/15/22 12:02:35 AM
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Tbh going by the minimum requirements I don't think PC players are going to be happy either.

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DarthAragorn
10/15/22 12:05:01 AM
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Atralis posted...
This is such a fucking stupid metric that is mostly used by console kiddies that don't know what the fuck they are talking about. If you are trashing consoles for this as a "PC gamer" you aren't actually a pc gamer or else you would actually have fiddled with graphical settings on your own and tried to reach the best performance to fps ratio at some point and realized that 30 vs 60 doesn't fucking matter for a lot of games.

All this means is this that they are targeting 30 fps as the fps they want to meet for a SINGLE PLAYER console game. There isn't anything wrong with that.

Seriously I'm calling out every "pc master race" gamer in this topic talking shit about this. You aren't a real pc gamer. You are fucking lying. You have never owned a gaming pc. You have never built a pc. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

ALL OF YOU. Come at me. Say something. Pretend that you aren't so full of shit that its spilling out your ears and nose.
nah dog this is bullshit

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Giblet_Enjoyer
10/15/22 12:07:44 AM
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Atralis posted...
Have you ever built a pc? Do you actually play games on the PC that have been made in the past 5-10 years? Do you play any games on the PC that weren't designed to run on a toaster? What graphics card do you have.
Yes to all of those, and my dinky 1060 (3gb) runs the Spyro remakes, RE2make, DMCV, MH World, Doom Eternal, Forza 4 (to name a few) at medium settings or better, 1080p 60+ FPS.

60fps isn't really a hard benchmark to reach generally.

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Punished_Blinx
10/15/22 12:09:57 AM
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Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
Yes to all of those, and my dinky 1060 (3gb) runs the Spyro remakes, RE2make, DMCV, MH World, Doom Eternal, Forza 4 (to name a few) at medium settings or better, 1080p 60+ FPS.

60fps isn't really a hard benchmark to reach generally.

You're below minimum requirements for Gotham Knights. Which is 1080p at 60fps.

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Atralis
10/15/22 12:10:41 AM
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DarthAragorn posted...
nah dog this is bullshit

"PC gaming" extends back for several decades and the 30 fps vs 60 fps for games has been a CHOICE that pc gamers have made in their games since monitors capable of even rendering 60 fps have existed and it still isn't settled.

The greater portion of people basically have settled on 30 fps being fine for most single player games as long as you can vsync to never have it drop below.

That is the general consensus which makes sense because that is what they are targeting on consoles.
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Giblet_Enjoyer
10/15/22 12:11:30 AM
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Punished_Blinx posted...
You're below minimum requirements for Gotham Knights. Which is 1080p at 60fps.
I'm not interested, so cool.

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Giblet_Enjoyer
10/15/22 12:14:57 AM
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Atralis posted...
That is the general consensus
That's bullshit, almost no PC gamers consider 30fps acceptable aside from maybe on the Deck or some similar umpc thing. Of course you seem to define a "PC gamer" as anyone who thinks 30fps is fine so I can see how you arrived at that conclusion

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Punished_Blinx
10/15/22 12:16:05 AM
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Turns out they haven't even released the recommended specs for PC yet. The game comes out in a week.

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Atralis
10/15/22 12:18:07 AM
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Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
I'm not interested, so cool.

My whole point is that I wouldn't consider someone like you a legit actual "PC gamer". Tell me if I'm wrong.

  1. You are afraid to open up your PC to upgrade it.
  2. You are confused whenever you open up the graphical settings
  3. You basically just run with the recommended settings for most games you play.


You already aren't running at 60 fps with the games you are playing especially if you have a 1060 (a six year old card that was mid tier when it was new).

You may not realize it but you are already getting the treatment that the console gamers are getting. The recommended setting is 30 fps with vsync on and low to mid graphics for most of the new'ish games you are playing. Of course you have no idea what I'm talking about because you aren't a real pc gamer but trust me its true.

You don't know that because you are a PC gamer in the sense that you own a pc and game on it but you have no idea what is going on other than you hit the play button and hope it works.
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AsucaHayashi
10/15/22 12:20:01 AM
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Atralis posted...
CHOICE that pc gamers have made in their games since monitors capable of even rendering 60 fps have existed and it still isn't settled.

definitely.

i still see pc gamers everywhere who can hit 60fps in their games voluntarily opting for 30fps just because they can

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Atralis
10/15/22 12:22:20 AM
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AsucaHayashi posted...
definitely.

i still see pc gamers everywhere who can hit 60fps in their games voluntarily opting for 30fps just because they can

This is part of my point. The 30 at ultra settings or 60 at low settings is a choice even if you have a great computer in a lot of games. Fake pc gamers, like Giblet_Enjoyer don't know about that debate because they aren't actually PC gamers in the sense that they actually understand the graphical settings in the games that they play.

My whole point is that the "pc gamers" you see in this topic are jokes mostly.
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Smashingpmkns
10/15/22 12:57:08 AM
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I run all of my games on PC at 60+FPS, 4K with all that RTX shit on everything maxed out lol

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HornyLevel
10/15/22 1:26:28 AM
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Pretty unacceptable in 2022. I was gonna get the PS5 version since my PC is broken and I don't feel like buying another.

I can't do 30 FPS anymore. Can't even get through Bowser's Fury and I love Mario games.

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Giblet_Enjoyer
10/15/22 1:35:52 AM
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Atralis posted...
My whole point is that I wouldn't consider someone like you a legit actual "PC gamer". Tell me if I'm wrong.

1. You are afraid to open up your PC to upgrade it.
2. You are confused whenever you open up the graphical settings
3. You basically just run with the recommended settings for most games you play.
I already did tell you you're wrong, clown shoes. Post 23.

  1. My current PC was built by me and has been upgraded several times
  2. I know what graphics settings do, aside from super exotic graphics options like the ones in Serious Sam games' menus
  3. No. I can't get away with doing that, my PC isn't good enough for it. I want at least 60 and I tweak settings until I get that.


Atralis posted...
You already aren't running at 60 fps with the games you are playing especially if you have a 1060 (a six year old card that was mid tier when it was new).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luVfGciVLkw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKlqIB2eung
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znhWxmYvv6c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gJXIMK3XBc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A5lHVKPxSo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9Ys6oLcd8w

Oh and I keep my GPU boxes so here's that, along with the inside of my PC:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/4/5/AAXQ7ZAADx59.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/4/6/AAXQ7ZAADx5-.jpg

I hope this settles things.

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2SweetforTurtle
10/15/22 12:16:52 PM
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Atralis posted...
This is such a fucking stupid metric that is mostly used by console kiddies that don't know what the fuck they are talking about. If you are trashing consoles for this as a "PC gamer" you aren't actually a pc gamer or else you would actually have fiddled with graphical settings on your own and tried to reach the best performance to fps ratio at some point and realized that 30 vs 60 doesn't fucking matter for a lot of games.

All this means is this that they are targeting 30 fps as the fps they want to meet for a SINGLE PLAYER console game. There isn't anything wrong with that.

Seriously I'm calling out every "pc master race" gamer in this topic talking shit about this. You aren't a real pc gamer. You are fucking lying. You have never owned a gaming pc. You have never built a pc. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

ALL OF YOU. Come at me. Say something. Pretend that you aren't so full of shit that its spilling out your ears and nose.

Its a multiplayer game. Theyre capping it at 30 fps and their excuse was how taxing it is to run the game with fully untethered co-op.

Realistically, it isnt unfair to question why they couldnt make a performance mode by restricting the game to single player, removing raytracing, and dropping the game to under 4k.

I personally wouldnt play like that, but the option should be there for those that truly care for 60 fps.

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Jagr_68
10/15/22 12:19:49 PM
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Game was always going to be shit but thankfully this news update reaffirms it.

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Smackems
10/15/22 1:47:02 PM
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Watching PC gamers fuss and fight over trivial dumb shit is one of my favorite pastimes

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alphagamble
10/15/22 1:51:51 PM
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30fps is just not acceptable in 2022

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SSJKirby
10/15/22 1:53:33 PM
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As long as it's 100% locked 30 FPS it's fine, if it's unlocked and it jumps all over the place then it's bad.

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EatTideGoats
10/15/22 2:06:41 PM
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Atralis posted...
This is such a fucking stupid metric that is mostly used by console kiddies that don't know what the fuck they are talking about. If you are trashing consoles for this as a "PC gamer" you aren't actually a pc gamer or else you would actually have fiddled with graphical settings on your own and tried to reach the best performance to fps ratio at some point and realized that 30 vs 60 doesn't fucking matter for a lot of games.

All this means is this that they are targeting 30 fps as the fps they want to meet for a SINGLE PLAYER console game. There isn't anything wrong with that.

Seriously I'm calling out every "pc master race" gamer in this topic talking shit about this. You aren't a real pc gamer. You are fucking lying. You have never owned a gaming pc. You have never built a pc. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

ALL OF YOU. Come at me. Say something. Pretend that you aren't so full of shit that its spilling out your ears and nose.

I've built multiple PCs to the point that I consider it a hobby and know extensively about what it takes to run games at certain qualities and frame rates.

Your take is dog shit. 30FPS is good for a retro game you want to emulate, but in the modern age with finer details and higher resolutions, 30FPS looks choppy. There's a reason 60FPS is the gold standard and nobody ever sold a 2K/4K 30hz monitor.
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Giblet_Enjoyer
10/15/22 2:17:21 PM
#42:


SSJKirby posted...
As long as it's 100% locked 30 FPS it's fine, if it's unlocked and it jumps all over the place then it's bad.
30 FPS is fine for a turn-based game. Anything with action feels like ass at 30 fps imo

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