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Underleveled
09/25/22 10:19:57 PM
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We're back in full-swing and HOPEFULLY beginning with the '22-'23 season will just be back to a yearly list, but with no Survivor in the '20-'21 TV season, I split that season into the two lists surrounding it. Thus we have 114 entrants from the following seasons:

Tough as Nails 2
Big Brother 23
Tough as Nails 3
Survivor 41
Celebrity Big Brother 3
The Amazing Race 33
Survivor 42
Big Brother 24

And a hint for #114 - a Big Brother/CBB contestant who was announced as one of the frontrunners for America's Favorite.

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Inviso
09/25/22 10:21:49 PM
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I'm going to assume this is Kyle.

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09/25/22 11:31:32 PM
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Folded BB24 into my ranking (which includes Challenge USA), so I'm at 142 instead of 114.

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09/25/22 11:34:16 PM
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haven't seen Tough As Nails but I still know what's what here

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09/26/22 12:37:18 AM
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114. Kyle Carpenter (Big Brother 24, 8th place) [16/16]
On night one I absolutely hated Kyle because not only did he seem like he was going to be a DR shouter, but he was also a huge try-hard who seemed proud of still living with his mother and doing nothing with his life other than making TikTok videos or some pseudo(to the 10th power)-influencer shit like that. And this continued for the first few weeks. Every time he came on, especially during a confessional, I just groaned at how painfully he was obviously just trying to be a fan-favorite AND a favorite of the house and just go along and be one of the cool kids. And then he started crushing on one of the hottest women of the season and to be absolute befuddlement, despite being one of the less-attractive guys of the season, she actually started crushing back. And at first this just added to my frustration with him but then, for a brief period, it actually gave me a bit of hope for him and his story arc, as he was actually put into the extremely rare position in which his showmance was not a part of his alliance, and he was going to have to choose between the two. I kinda thought this could actually make for some interesting gameplay, regardless of whether or not he himself actually became bearable.

And this was very briefly the case. It was kind of interesting to see him fluctuate between Alyssa and the Leftovers, and coming up with creative ways to avoid responsibility for such decisions. But after a while it got kind of bothersome that it felt like he was leading Alyssa on. I have to be fair here - I get pissed off when alliances Im not rooting for lead outsiders on, because its like someone with power dangling it in front of someone who doesnt even know they have it, so I have to be pissed then an alliance that I AM rooting for (even if its largely for one person) do it too. Not that it really matters, because for seemingly no reason, with only the most ridiculously-stretched circumstantial evidence to back up his claim, Kyle decided that all of the people of color in the house were working together, and everything went to hell.

At first this was kind of brushed off, as he only talked to Michael and Brittany about it. And listen, even Julies initial reaction was I think its just typical game paranoia but then he pressed about forming an alliance of himself, Michael, Brittany, Turner and Alyssa despite Michael and Brittany verbally expressing to him just how uncomfortable this was for them and despite Monte, Taylor and Joseph constantly expressing loyalty to him and to the Leftovers alliance and it was like, he just couldnt read the damn room and absolutely HAD to make it a race issue. Which totally misses the goal of the Cookout as far as future seasons go which was hopefully this doesnt HAVE to be the case ever again as opposed to hopefully this happens again and again.

For now the idea gets brushed aside and the split house twist happens, and Kyle ends up outside with Terrance, Alyssa, Joseph and Turner. And despite this being Terrances HoH, Kyle is the dramatic focal point here, completely throwing his alliance under the bus to save his girlfriend while simultaneously more or less gaslighting Joseph into going apeshit and blowing up his own game. And it was REALLY frustrating to see Terrance continue to not target Kyle despite everything funky going on in the house seemingly coming back to him.

When they got back inside, things seemed poised for Kyle to make the endgame. He was effectively aligned with everyone left in the house in one way or another, and his closest ally, Turner, had just won HoH. Then Michael and Brittany picked up on Kyles position and decided to reveal what he had said about racially-based alliances earlier in the game. And make no mistake, that was gross of them to use it as a strategic tool but at least it meant that he was finally going to get his, right? Kinda. He got called out for sure, and it led to his elimination, but it also led to one of the most uncomfortable weeks in recent BB memory, with the houseguests having to put the game on hold and navigate their emotions about this.

And like, Im torn here. On one hand, Im willing to believe that his comments and plans came out of ignorance rather than hatred and he seemed more sincere about wanting to learn and become better than other CBS reality contestants who have made egregious errors (and you know, didnt promote his book at the finale or aggressively pass off any wrongdoing and then finally get ejected several rounds later). But on the other hand, he DID play it off as okay I did say that but until he saw the reactions from the non-white houseguests, and also Im not sure he got sufficiently roasted, at least not in the house. The jury was actually more aggressive and he got to control the narrative for them. In the house, it was very diplomatic, and Terrance straight-up wanted to keep Kyle, which Ill talk about more when we get to him. Across the board between the house, the jury, and Kyle himself, the response probably evens out to a net neutral for the purposes of what is my opinion of how it went down, but it was still an incredibly awkward situation that really should never have happened in the first place.

And yet somehow the finale made it worse by not only Kyle not having to say anything about it at the reunion, but also getting the girl in the end AND somehow, for some reason Ill absolutely never understand, placing in the top 3 for Americas Favorite. For all the admonishment he received all summer long, it was as if his poor behavior was ultimately rewarded and thank GOD Taylor won (the game AND Americas Favorite) because otherwise this would have made for a really crappy ending. I hope he becomes better from this experience, but in the context of the season I really just don't see any way I could have put anyone but Kyle last. He was obnoxious, he was an intrusive and pervasive force on the season, he made one of "those" mistakes, and his story arc was ultimately unsatisfying. Pretty much everything that puts someone smack dab at the bottom for me.

113. A losing finalist

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Inviso
09/26/22 8:03:51 AM
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Yup. The racism stuff was bad, but it was so comparatively tame that it might not have been enough to rank Kyle lowest from this season. It's the racism AND the try-hard cam-whoring AND how much production loved him and insisted on giving him way more confessionals than he ever warranted AND America voting him top three for fan favorite.

The sad thing is that I thought about it and I'm actually torn between two options, both of whom were awful. Given that you hate Kyle though, I'm going to assume try-hards are more likely to be the worst, and predict Todrick.

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09/26/22 9:21:34 AM
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Also, Kyle would be 139/142 for me, largely for the same reasons.

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09/26/22 9:24:06 AM
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Inviso posted...
AND America voting him top three for fan favorite.
I'm still just flabbergasted by this. I was legit half-expecting Julie to do what Jeff did to Colton and be like "and no Kyle, you're not one of them" before announcing the top three. I figured Taylor and Michael would be there but thought the third would be Joseph or Turner.

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09/26/22 9:53:24 AM
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Inviso posted...
Also, Kyle would be 139/142 for me, largely for the same reasons.
I wasn't 100% sure I wanted to put Kyle in dead last but out of the four that I considered (the others being the next three of course) I wasn't sure if I could justify putting any of them below him. Some of them hit some bad notes worse than he did, but none of them hit ALL of them the way he did.

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09/26/22 10:02:47 AM
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Underleveled posted...
I wasn't 100% sure I wanted to put Kyle in dead last but out of the four that I considered (the others being the next three of course) I wasn't sure if I could justify putting any of them below him. Some of them hit some bad notes worse than he did, but none of them hit ALL of them the way he did.

What it comes down to for me is that I also have four extreme bottom tier players on my list, and while Kyle hits a lot of notes that I hate, he at least got destroyed in his boot week and went out in eighth place. My bottom three went MUCH farther. Egregiously so.

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09/26/22 10:06:58 AM
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Based on the reactions in the main topic I'm assuming one of them is from The Challenge, and I wouldn't be surprised if my next entrant is one as well.

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09/26/22 10:42:32 AM
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113. Todrick Hall (Celebrity Big Brother 3, 2nd place) [11/11]
I waffled a bit between my next three entrants, and ultimately what it came down to was this - the other two didnt outright ruin their seasons, while CBB3 was an absolute disaster and that can be traced entirely back to Todrick. If Im being totally honest, early on I thought Todrick could potentially be one of the most entertaining members of the CBB3 cast. He seemed both snarky and self-interested enough that he could be a fun troll a la Survivors Trickster archetype (Fairplay, Tyson, etc). Unfortunately, certain character types dont exactly translate well to Big Brother where the extended downtime edit (footage shown in episodes that are not challenges or ceremonies) plus live feed coverage make it harder to hide just how crappy certain people really are, and Todrick really suffered from that. Whereas vain Survivors like Tyson or Sydney come across as very tongue-in-cheek, Todrick seemed to really just think he was better than everyone there. From the very start he was playing both sides of the house and then threw Mirai and Teddi under the bus for doing exactly the same, resulting in two potentially decent characters being the first two boots. He then proceeded to get a screen-hogs edit spending the rest of the season hiding behind doors talking shit about anyone and everyone who wasnt in the room at the time, acting like he was Gods gift to earth. The worst came when he gaslit Shanna for playing both sides, even though she was more of a double-agent, not only getting her eliminated but literally getting giddy over her friends saying really nasty things to her. It was such an uncomfortable set of scenes to watch and while Meesha was bad too, she at least expressed some remorse in confessionals, while Todrick just fucking enjoyed it and thought it was the most brilliant move in Big Brother history. I do understand that his and Meeshas backs were up against a wall at that point and they were throwing everything they could out there to stay in the game, but theres a fucking line and Todrick crossed it big time.

He then went on to bitch and moan like a baby when people didnt find his showboating at his nomination ceremony funny (again, I dont really have too much of a problem with him clowning around with something that is normally very regimentally-scripted to an annoying degree, but good God, dont act like youre entitled to get a laugh out of people that are already fed-up with your shit) and continue to just put down everyone else left in the game in such a mean-spirited way that in the eyes of the jury, it totally negated what they thought was actually pretty good gameplay. This is demonstrated perfectly with Todd, who, upon being evicted, said he was definitely giving his jury vote to Todrick, but then came back on finale night and voted for Meesha (unlike a normal season of BB, CBBs jury does not have to sequester, meaning they can go home and watch the season and live-feeds and catch up on everything they were not privy to in the house). To the surprise of absolutely no one, the only juror who voted for Todrick was Cynthia, aka the third-placer who was evicted just minutes before the jury voted and thus the only one who did not get to see the full extent of how awful he was. And after not only being nearly shut-out by the jury but also not even coming close to winning Americas Favorite, he chickened out of his exit press and went totally dark on social media, unable to reap what he had sown. So while his downfall was a bit satisfying, it just didnt have the same impact as, say, Jacksons a few years ago. What a terrible villain he turned out to be for a season that, given the quality of CBB1 and 2, I had such high hopes for.

112. Has alliterative initials

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Inviso
09/26/22 11:33:33 AM
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He's my 141/142 as well. There's something so frustrating about seeing an inherently obnoxious and arrogant person hold power for an entire season of television. Even if they lose in an assumedly humiliating fashion (see: Russell Hantz in Samoa), that doesn't make up for them being an obnoxious drain on the season as a whole. Plus, when he wasn't being a gossipy asshole and betraying far better characters every round, he was being the most try-hard cam-whore on a season of celebrity television. It sucked.

I'm assuming next up for you is Daniel, who would not be in my bottom four, but he still sucks.

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09/26/22 12:40:39 PM
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09/26/22 6:43:07 PM
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112. Daniel Durston (Big Brother 24, 12th place) [15/16]
Im possibly being a bit too harsh on Daniel with this ranking due to one particular moment that really gets under my skin on a personal level, but even if that wasnt the case, he still probably would have been bottom 10, because he was still awful. His week one HoH was one of the most unnecessarily-mean-spirited ever, because he just aggressively went after Michael, repeatedly saying Theres only room for one superfan in this game. Granted, Michael played terribly in week 1 and set himself up as an obvious target, but Daniels try-hard attitude about it was so grating. Then when Michael won Veto, Daniel put Taylor on the block, telling her that this was her chance to apologize for things he didnt even know the full details of and in fact she didnt actually do. It was very nasty and it felt as if he were trying to insert himself into the drama of the house rather than shy away from it. He then cried because he was afraid of being seen as racist for putting two black contestants on the block in week 1. As if he couldnt have put anybody but Terrance up as his pawn in the first place. It was kind of obnoxious.

Week two was whatever for Daniel. Pooch tanked his own game and Daniel was barely a part of it. But then week 3 and the Festie Bestie twist happened. And Taylor, the person Daniel hated the most (for no real reason other than hearsay) was partners with Nicole, Daniels closest friend and ally in the house. Because the Veto competition had to be played in pairs, Daniel and Nicole plotted for Nicole to throw the competition and then convince HoH Turner to put Taylor and Nicole on the block so Taylor could be evicted. And Im going to gloss over some of the Nicole stuff here because shell get hers soon enough, but basically she starts crying because she knows she has to throw the challenge even though shes not a quitter, and Daniel just keeps reminding her of how awful Taylor is and that this is what they have to do. So Taylor sees Nicole crying and goes in to comfort her, and Nicole comes running out of the room with the typical Taylor-hating bullshit to tell Daniel that she was being disrespectful. And heres where we get the moment that puts Daniel in the bottom three for me. He goes and verbally attacks Taylor, and when no one comes to her aid, continues to berate her and even has the audacity to accuse her of being the reason Palomas mental health was so bad that she had to quit (I mean indirectly hes not wrong but it was because Paloma was obsessed with Taylor for no reason, not because of anything Taylor did other than exist). It really felt reminiscent of the Will/Shirin scenario, but maybe even worse because Will attacked Shirin for something she supposedly said about him. Taylor never said or did anything to or about Daniel and he STILL felt the need to get this abusive with her. Ive been in this position quite a few times in my life, where somebody was verbally attacking me over something invalid without giving me the opportunity to defend myself. Its scary and its harmful and its abusive, and Daniels actions brought up these memories for me.

So anyway the rest of Daniels time in the house is pretty much on par with week 1. Week 3 proceeds with Taylor surviving and Daniel having no idea what is really going on, and despite this he and Nicole STILL plot to get Taylor out, which means Nicole going up as a pawn. They spend the whole week being incredibly cocky bullies thinking wicked witch Taylor is finally going to be gone, and when, surprise surprise, Nicole goes instead, Daniel immediately runs to his room and starts pouting and screaming Just end the season already! He really saw himself as the Cody Nickson of the season and thought that America loved him and hated Taylor as much as they hated Paul. This was increasingly evident in his fifth and final week in the house, where he ended his run by using his eviction speech to beg the houseguests to evict him and tell them that they were giving America a boring season and he didnt want to be a part of it. He did seem genuinely humbled when Julie informed him that he was seen as a bully, but it was way too little, way too late. Hed already gone down as one of the worst members of this cast, and thats really saying quite something.

111. Typically wears glasses

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Inviso
09/26/22 7:21:38 PM
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Daniel is 137/142 for me, so not too far off. He's just so fucking awful. Daniel's delusions are insane, first falling for Paloma's crap because he's got a weird fixation with barely-legal teens (and she reminded him of one of those), but also...it's one thing to be a Frenchie, or a Cody Nickson who torpedos their game week one by being too chaotic or aggressive. But at least they tried to use their first HoH to establish a solid, week one alliance. How bad of a player do you need to be, as first HoH, to get out of the week by cowering to the house's demands, and having no long-term alliance to show for it?

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09/26/22 7:33:53 PM
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Tag to lurk and occasionally comment, I only watch Survivor and Amazing Race.

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09/27/22 9:21:15 AM
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111. Michael Bruner (Big Brother 24, 6th place) [14/16]
Oh Michael, what high hopes I had for you. After coming into the house as the BB-equivalent of the Spencer archetype, playing a miserable social game week 1 and positioning himself to be an obvious first-boot, he won the first Veto, pulled himself off the block, and rode this train to becoming one of the most dominant challenge competitors Big Brother has ever seen, while simultaneously dramatically improving his social game and becoming the biggest strategic player and finally getting eliminated at the final six as the obvious frontrunner to win the whole thing. Quite a story, right? Wait. Lets rewind a bit.

Yes, in the first few weeks after surviving the first boot, Michael managed to be quite entertaining, with some great confessionals, an amazing comeback story, and being one of the first people in the house to actually treat Taylor like a human being. But after a while he started to sound more like a snarky know-it-all and it occasionally got grating. This was incredibly evident during Taylors first HoH, where he berated her strategy and nominations as if he had any better ideas that didnt involve betraying the Leftovers. Im not saying Taylors first HoH was perfect (in fact it was actually quite sloppy), but at the end of the day her nominations were sound and Michael was just being a bitter baby because they werent exactly what he wanted. Not only that, but after winning enough challenges, he finally decided that it wasnt even worth hiding his threat level anymore and so he was just going to go all-out. Except he didnt just announce this to the audience; he made sure the whole house knew what a gigantic threat he was. Ive gotta say, theres something to be said for making your high threat level known in a returnee season where you can use it as a strategy to try and target people who otherwise wouldnt have a target (like what Sandra tried to do in Winners at War), but doing it on your first season is just stupid and bad and is setting you up to be taken out much later in the game.

Then we get to Michaels role in the Kyle situation. Michaels initial reaction to Kyle coming to him with the idea of an all-white alliance was pretty genuine. He basically said IF there is an alliance that Im not part of, Ill do what I can to break it up, but I wont assume people are working together based on race. Which I think is fair. And he and Brittany showed some uncomfortability with the plan. The issue is that they continued working closely with Kyle for two additional weeks without Michael ever bringing the race comments up again until revealing them to the remaining houseguests benefited him strategically. And Im not denying that his feelings toward the situation were genuine but that was really icky and Im very glad that the other houseguests did not let this go unnoticed. To be fair, he seemed to want to do what he could to mitigate having it be just a strategic tool - running it by Monte and Taylor first and letting them decide what should be done with it (though I couldnt help but notice Terrance wasnt included in that conversation), and keeping his word with Turner not to nominate him the following week, even though it was best for his game, after Turner essentially burned his HoH doing what was morally right rather than what was best for his game. But it still felt like there was a lot of strategy involved in this damage control.

So after a whole summer of Michael not even attempting to hide his threat level, he gets backdoored at the double eviction and while it was fun to watch him scramble to survive like Ive never seen anyone do, he blew it by totally throwing his ride-or-die Brittany under the bus in a needlessly mean-spirited fashion in his eviction speech, and then making one of the most unjustifiably bitter exits ever. Its one thing when someone like Cody who truly hated everyone left in the house at that point storms out without any goodbyes. Even Terrance having done it moments earlier was kind of understandable, because nobody left except for maybe Alyssa had ever seen him as more than a pawn in their game and he knew it, but Michael totally undid his own game by playing way too hard and he had to have known that he would inevitably run out of lives. It was just such a crappy ending to the spiral of a character that I actually kind of enjoyed and rooted for early on.

110. Came in 4th place and their last name is Young

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Espeon
09/27/22 10:53:36 AM
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Strongly disagree with this one, if only because this cast was awful as a whole, and Michael was one of the least offensive characters (by virtue of being decent to Taylor throughout the season).

As for the guess, its a tough call. Im going to guess Kyland, but I think theres a worse BB23 character than him.

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09/27/22 12:16:49 PM
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That's a nice oddly-specific clue.

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09/27/22 12:53:14 PM
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110. Jonathan Young (Survivor 42, 4th place) [18/18]
I actually quite enjoyed Jonthan in the early parts of Survivor 42. It was pretty fun, almost hilarious even, watching him just absolutely dominate the physical game to an almost superhuman degree that wed seriously never seen before. Not from James, not from Ozzy, not at all. Actually, Ill admit that having seen him compete Ive been motivated to push myself even harder when working out. He was also just decently enjoyable as a character. Even at times when he was being a bit of a dick, it was entertaining, like in the episode where he was complaining about how annoying the women on his tribe were. As somebody (Andy I think?) pointed out when it happens, its the kind of magic that happens when there are no tribe swaps so the Survivors are subjected to living with the same people for the entire pre-merge, and Im very thankful that after 17 consecutive seasons with some sort of pre-merge tribe reconfiguration, we finally got not one but two in a row without a tribe swap.

Anyway, I figured that, as one of the biggest physical threats in Survivor history, Jonathan would be an obvious early-merge target. But he never was. I was actually really shocked. For the early part of the post-merge, he was never seriously targeted aside from the usual this person is a threat, oh yeah, well have to deal with that eventually that a lot of people get subjected to in the early merge phase in any season. But he had been enjoyable enough in the pre-merge that I didnt mind him sticking around for a few extra rounds, and we even got a bit of a funny running gag about his diet (which I even named a topic after). But then things started to go downhill at the negotiation episode, when Jeff offered the tribe more rice in exchange for a negotiated number of people sitting out of the immunity challenge. Despite having gone on at great length about how he needs more calories than everyone else because he has more mass (a little cocky-sounding but not incorrect) and stepping in to be one of the prime negotiators he absolutely did not budge on sitting out of the challenge himself. And that rubbed me the wrong way a bit. Then the split-tribal episode happened and I have no problem with him targeting Drea here (she was absolutely one of the biggest strategic threats at that point and they had a wide open opportunity to take her out), the way he went about it was so horrible. Not only was he a stubborn asshole when discussing how to split the vote with Lindsay, but he was flat-out wrong about how to do it (rather than splitting the vote onto outsider Tori, he wanted to split it onto his own ally Maryanne, which made 0 sense as it risked either eliminating her or alienating her). Then tribal council happens and a racial discussion takes place, and while I dont think Jonathan is a racist person, nor did he say anything explicitly racist (nor, you know, blatantly factor race into his strategy), many of his remarks came across as tonedeaf to say the least.

From this point forward, his role in the season is to lay around camp being miserable and constantly complaining about how stupid everyone else is for not going along with his bad strategy, and about how hungry he is, and constantly evading elimination despite the majority of the people left wanting him gone. Then in the finale, when Lindsay was the obvious target at the final five and the immunity challenge appeared to be between her and Mike, Jonathan literally just put his puzzle pieces down and watched the two of them fight it out like winning it didnt even matter to him. It came across as so arrogant and was just the capstone on the deterioration of a character that really kind of endeared me early on.

109. A winner

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09/27/22 1:11:14 PM
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I feel like this next cut will be Miesha, but it should absolutely be Scott.

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09/27/22 1:24:16 PM
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Jonathan destroying the premerge challenges is my favorite thing that's happened with challenges in such a long time, it was absolutely comedic. Him solo carrying his tribe through the waves in that challenge that was too rough for anyone else to complete was iconic.

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09/27/22 4:41:25 PM
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I can almost see the logic in Jonathan telling Drea that they're splitting the vote on Maryanne rather than Tori. If they tell Drea that it's going to be the easy Tori boot and then she sees everyone else going off on their own, it'll raise some flags and she'll play the idol. At least here they could try to convince Drea she's in on the blindside. Of course, the execution of it was terrible and ruined any chance of it actually working, even without the whole race discussion.

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09/27/22 7:58:37 PM
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Jonathan being this low baffles me. He was at least interesting - and I didn't see anything he did that was particularly misogynistic or racist, but there must've been something not shown that gave context to his confused, ignorant remark at Tribal. That said, Drea is full of shit for calling the Omar/Jonathan/Lindsay group "racist" - they were on a starting tribe together, and that means a lot for building trust.

My personal dead-last would be Sarah Lacina, of course. I RARELY despise people to the same extent these write-ups so far have been since I try to examine them as three-dimensional, but... man, was she absolutely insufferable.

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09/28/22 2:39:17 PM
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Michael was 32/142 for me. >_>;;
Jonathan was 115/142.

Also, to comment on Jonathan...YES he's got some definite issues and misogyny, but he just feels so different from every other challenge beast dude bro alpha male we've seen on the show, that I can't completely hate him. He's definitely not my least favorite from 42, either.

To agree with Andy, Sarah is absolutely the worst CBS character to fit in this time frame. It honestly takes a lot on these lists for the worst to NOT be a Big Brother character (if only because we see them for a MUCH longer period of time, and we witness them LIVE), but Sarah accomplished it. She's such a dour and unpleasant personality to start...but that's not inherently bad. Angela from BB20 is a boring bitch, yet she came back for the Challenge, and she was a star.

But Sarah is dour, unpleasant, and also arrogant in a very misguided way. She had all of these Survivor connections (and Survivor was the strongest collective group in the season), so she was super insulated all season. But she kept talking and acting like she was this massive badass, despite the fact that it took her, I think, until around the final eight women to actually finish in the top three for a daily challenge. But she was just boring up to that point. She got TERRIBLE after Tyson/Cashay threw her into elimination. This was partially as a shot at Ben (who was allegedly talking shit per Cayla/Derek, who were the easy targets that round), but also partially because Cashay wanted to eliminate Leo as a physical liability if she happened to get paired with him in a daily challenge. It's not a completely unreasonable choice, but Sarah spent the rest of the season as a literal helldemon after this.

It COULD have been amusing. Sarah's bizarrely aggressive showboating after beating Azah/Cinco (who, mind you, are NOT strong competitors when it comes to puzzle challenges) COULD have been fun. Instead, she continued to constantly perform mediocre in daily competitions (thus never holding power), while whining about how Tyson and Angela suck. And the other thing about this is that, as the season progressed, more and more people qualified for the final, while Sarah had yet to reach the $5,000 threshold necessary. So on top of her complaining about Tyson/Angela and their circle of friend, she had the added plot hook of "I need to make my money to get into the final".

Eventually, the show turned individual, meaning it no longer mattered who your partner was in terms of who you'd get saddled with in the arena. Sarah, being a roided beyotch, insisted that this would be her chance. She kept belittling Angela and saying Angela hadn't proved herself and all that good stuff. But the very first individual challenge, Angela wins outright, beating Sarah, so once again, Sarah did not get a win. But this is also the point where Enzo injured himself at some point, and he wound up in the elimination, guaranteed. Sarah, as we learned in WaW, is a feminist crusader who wants to prove how strong women are. So she went to Ben/Angela and begged them to throw her into the arena against a hobbled Enzo (who has consistently proven weak in challenge after challenge). Naturally, this was rejected because it wouldn't be allowed (and it would've been pointless since Sarah STILL wouldn't have enough money to qualify, after beating Enzo), but it just felt like a brazen attempt at garnering camera time from a person who lacks the charisma for it.

Then the NEXT challenge was just a comedy of errors as Angela/Alyssa worked together to fuck Sarah over in a strategy competition, and Sarah spent her time whining about it to anyone who would listen, begging them to help her out, and eventually losing because of Angela/Alyssa's efforts.

Honestly? The only problem here was that A&A targeted Sarah instead of one of her friends and forced Sarah to face off against a tougher opponent if she wanted to "get her money". But Sarah went into the arena against Cashay (who was, hands down, the weakest woman left in the cast), and won handily. Keep in mind, Sarah won two eliminations against absolutely pathetic opponents who had demonstrated little in the way of competitive ability up to that point.

The next round? Angela flatout WON a competition, beating EVERY other player and ending up as the only person to ACTUALLY complete it. Sarah? Got disqualified by falling off the truck. But that didn't matter because it was a male elimination day, so the women's performance didn't matter outside of determining which woman would be deciding on the person going into elimination against David. Buuuuuut Angela/Ben selected Enzo, and Sarah of course had to put her two cents in about how Ben was whipped and pathetic for caving to Angela's demands (even though I believe the rule would be if the partners couldn't decide, then Ben would've been forced into elimination unnecessarily).

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09/28/22 2:47:03 PM
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All of this is awful, but at the very least, had it resulted in some sort of comeuppance or failure on Sarah's part, I could at least appreciate her as a villain in an otherwise enjoyable season of television. But the finale guaranteed her placement of 142/142 for me, and it honestly tanked the show as a whole. The first hour was the final female elimination, where after failing round after round after round, Sarah finally get her daily comp win and got to gloat and lord it over Alyssa/Angela, forcing them to face off for elimination. Again, this in and of itself wouldn't be so bad, because a good villain should at least hold power at some point to do something bad with it. But then the rest of the finale happened.

The whole finale challenge was a shitshow, and due to completely random circumstances, Sarah benefited immensely from the show's formatting. Ben got medevaced, meaning the genders were uneven at 5-4, which fucked with the ability to run the final in pairs. To compensate, the producers decided to randomly pair women with men, and each round would have one woman running solo.

The first round was a lengthy swim through cold ocean water, which sucked for two reasons. One, Desi got fucked over by being randomly paired with Enzo. The women tried to eliminate Enzo; he survived THREE eliminations after absolutely pathetic showings in the daily challenges. And wouldn't you know it...when it came to the final challenge, he quit swimming and got Desi eliminated through no fault of her own. Meanwhile, Sarah got to run this leg solo, and I would argue that this particular leg was the EASIEST for a solo player to accomplish, because it's ENTIRELY dependent on your own abilities. Sarah's a triathlete, so she's going to do well at swimming, and she didn't have an Enzo or a Domenick holding her back. As a result, she finished the leg in second place.

Next leg, Sarah was paired with Tyson, who was one of the most dominant men of the season, and she finished in second place as a result. Third leg, she was paired with Danny, who was the most dominant man of the finale, finishing in second place AGAIN. I just want to make it clear that Sarah had perhaps the best selection partners compared to the other women up to that point. Enzo was clearly awful for Desi, but Domenick was the OTHER weak link among the men, and Angela, Justine, and Cayla all got stuck with him, leading to third (or fourth) place finishes every round. But then in the fourth round, Sarah gets Domenick in the ONE task where he's ideal: pure, brute strength. Naturally, she wins and goes into the final leg with a huge numerical lead over her opponents (plus Angela, her biggest competition, got fucked over and eliminated from the whole competition by unclear rules).

The final task? It was a ten mile hike and every one of Tyson, Danny, Domenick, Justine and Cayla were able to solve a relatively simple puzzle checkpoint, while Sarah fell behind and cried about it. But then, due to piss poor production, Tyson, Justine, Domenick and Cayla all "quit" the next puzzle, leaving Sarah as the only woman still in the race, despite being far behind everyone else. She conveniently got a pass through her puzzle (that the other four did not with THEIR puzzle), and then we see her leaving Sudoku to finish the finale and claim a "win" (really, second place since Danny actually dominated that final leg) that resulted it her finishing the season with more money than the guy who beat her to the finish line.

Sarah had luck work her way throughout the entire final leg (perfect, randomly assigned partners that not only boosted her, but also sandbagged her competition; the pre-finale eliminations of two of her biggest competitors, which had the added bonus of putting her into a final where the worst score she could achieve without quitting was 6 points (instead of a potential 4 if Angela was still around), meaning the only way she wasn't winning was if Cayla finished first, Justine finished second, and Sarah finished third), and she came out on top in spite of EVERY single flaw she displayed throughout the course of the season. There was no satisfaction to her win because she was a whiny bitch who talked a lot more shit than she could back up, and her win even LOOKED like a pure fluke. She single-handedly tanked the show, which is worse than I can say about any other player on any other season. Again, it takes a lot for someone to out-terrible Big Brother's worst, but Sarah accomplished that.

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09/28/22 3:04:27 PM
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*clap clap*

That was all spot on, Vis. You articulated why I despised her so much - and how she single-handedly convinced me to never watch that show again. The story was completely ruined by her fluke of a win; it would have been so gratifying for Angela to own the shit out of her after what happened with Alyssa, but production was shit and made terrible decisions that destroyed the product. Tyson quit half due to what they did to Angela, the other half for outright lying to the cast about the prize (which is illegal, I believe, even for an unscripted show). That finale was the worst I've ever seen and it's because a whiny, narcissistic Karen who deserved an epic comeuppance after all the gloating she had done despite accomplishing nothing somehow won.

There was nothing satisfying about it. That second hour was the most miserable hour of reality television I've ever seen - yes, it was even worse than the Caramoan reunion and the second half of the HHH finale, and worse than any of Big Brother's lows. And now, that "World Challenge" thing on Paramount Plus will fail because *gasp* nobody in their right mind wants to hear Karen Lacina bitch and moan every week. Enough is enough. If the producers were going to pull some bullshit, they should have rigged it to give the most unlikable person ever a comeuppance instead of things that favored her. And poor Desi, losing because cats can't swim... I would have loved that to be Karen instead. It would have been a hilarious way for her to go out.

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09/28/22 3:23:21 PM
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The other problem is that I think the producers believed (and not unrightfully so, based on anecdotal evidence from speaking with other show-watchers) that by painting Sarah as opposition to the dominance of Tyson and Angela, she would come across as the more palatable option for casuals to latch onto. She was the "underdog" and Angela/Alyssa were the "bitches".

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09/28/22 3:33:19 PM
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When neither Kyle nor Todrick were dead last for you I assumed it was Sarah.

For what it's worth on Jonathan I think he's an absolute lock for the next full/half returnee season as long as he isn't auto-excluded by the theme itself so he could very well change my mind.

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09/28/22 6:41:52 PM
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Inviso posted...
The other problem is that I think the producers believed (and not unrightfully so, based on anecdotal evidence from speaking with other show-watchers) that by painting Sarah as opposition to the dominance of Tyson and Angela, she would come across as the more palatable option for casuals to latch onto. She was the "underdog" and Angela/Alyssa were the "bitches".
Boy did this backfire. Every snarky comment that Angela or Alyssa said was 100% warranted, and also 100% awesome, and that got me to root for them. Why anyone would root for an "underdog" who says completely untrue things (she said Angela, the strongest female on the season, "sucked at challenges" - like what, what does that make Karen?), whines when she doesn't get her way because of people trying to play the game, and acts superior to them when she's not is beyond me. Anyone rooting for such trash must be a Karen themselves, and thus I find it a blockable offense on social media.

If there's anything I hate most, it's people who whine a lot while asserting a superiority complex over others - self-centered spoiled brat bullies. Karen Lacina is one such person. Nicole Franzel is another. It's a horrendous combination. Cody surprisingly evicting Nicole led to great schadenfreude, but sadly we got the opposite this time: True misery. And thus, I'm never watching The Challenge again, because this left an indescribably bitter stench in my mouth. I know I'm not the only.

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For what it's worth on Jonathan I think he's an absolute lock for the next full/half returnee season as long as he isn't auto-excluded by the theme itself so he could very well change my mind.
You're being too hard on him. I'd probably put him above a few others on S42, namely Jackson (the lithium), Marya (secondbootitis), and Drea (her racist remarks getting me to reevaluate her entirely). He's about even with Zach. I'd also have Daniel Strunk (who I expect to see soon) relatively high because he was like a completely unintentional parody of the Charlie Brown superfan types, and that amuses me greatly, especially since he didn't last so long that he became obnoxious. At least he didn't treat others like shit or mope around endlessly despite all his self-inflicted misery.

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109. Scott Henry (Tough as Nails 2, 1st place)
For what it was, I found Tough as Nails 1 to be a decently enjoyable watch during the COVID drought. It wasnt anything spectacular, but it had a decent premise and a good season-long story arc with a very satisfying conclusion that saw the least-likable contestant blowing a sizable lead in the final challenge and coming in second TAR2-style. It was enough to get me to tune back in for season 2. While season 2 started out promising enough, it quickly went downhill due to the fact that there were only two consistently strong competitors and the fierce rivalry between them being the prevailing story arc indicated that they would almost certainly be the final two, and one of them was extremely unlikable. Wouldnt you know it, they were the top 2, and the unlikable one won it all.

Scott emerged as the de facto leader of Savage Crew this season after their official leader got ejected fairly early on. And he was a very poor leader. He was extremely bossy and disagreeable, refused to listen to his teammates and only considered his own strengths and weaknesses when strategizing who should perform what tasks rather than what was best for the group as a whole. He barked out orders in challenges that often caused more confusion among his teammates (and were often bad strategic calls or flat-out incorrect orders) and threw temper tantrums whenever they lost, despite the fact that many of their losses were largely attributed to his inability to cooperate with them and keep cool under pressure. The editors tried to make him likable by painting him as a former nerd who was made fun of for the corrective gear he had to wear growing up but it really didnt change the fact that he is a total alpha-douche now.

And it would be one thing if this was supposed to be our villain, but as I said before, Scott was one of only two people who consistently shone in the individual challenges, and the rivalry between him and Zeus was being built up to go all the way to the finals (and even then, Scotts resume was significantly better than Zeuss so by and large Scott was, from the start, the frontrunner to win it all), so the unlikability was magnified intensely.

In the end, Scotts team won the tiebreaker challenge (which they even got to largely due to a series of extenuating setbacks for Dirty Hands), and Scott himself won the individual game in a final challenge that Zeus fell out of fairly quickly (and if I remember correctly actually came closer to finishing third behind Sarah than he did to beating Scott), so for being an asshole all season and costing his team several wins in a game where every team win is worth money, he ended up being rewarded on both fronts. Bleh.

108. Was the final pre-finale boot of the season

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Writer's note: My bottom two write-ups for BB23 were written immediately after that season ended so they may have a slightly different tone than the write-ups written now (aka most of them) and reference more specific incidents than other write-ups from seasons that aired earlier in this list's cycle due to the fact that many of them faded from my memory.

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108. Kyland Young (Big Brother 23, 4th place) [16/16]
At the beginning of Big Brother 23, I could never have imagined Kyland becoming my most-hated houseguest of the season. He seemed like such a nice guy! And even for most of the season, he just seemed way too sweet to dislike. But once the game came down to the Cookout, Kylands behavior changed dramatically, and it caused me to look back on his actions over the course of the season and made me realize that maybe he wasnt as nice as he seemed.

First, there was his relationship with Sarah Beth, who he knew was in a relationship going into the house because she announced it to everyone in the opening challenge. Kyland just got way too intimate with her, cuddling with her and sharing sweet little back-and-forths that are hard to consider anything but flirting. And thats partially on Sarah Beth as well, but she genuinely believed that she and Kyland were going to the end together, while Kyland knew all along that the Cookout meant they couldnt. Looking back on it, especially after seeing SBs reaction in the jury house (I find it telling that in the jury deliberation segment of the finale, Kyland and SB were seated as far away from each other as possible), it was very scummy and in a way, potentially messing with SBs personal life outside of the house for something that he knew was much less than she believed it was.

But Kylands shadiness didnt end there. Kyland told a lot of lies that he didnt need to tell. This was especially evident with Britini, who he promised wouldnt see the block on what was ultimately her eviction week, despite knowing full well that she was going up. At this point he already knew that Britini was an extremely emotional and fragile person and that making this kind of promise and then blatantly going back on it for seemingly no reason would utterly destroy her. Did something similar to Hannah and Tiffany later in the game, which almost made it seem like he was specifically targeting young and/or emotional women with these lies, which is icky. Furthermore, while lies and manipulation are a huge part of the game, these grandiose lies with people that he had formed such intimate bonds with felt very much like emotional manipulation, which definitely calls his nice guy status into question.

And we still havent gotten to the fact that Kyland helped pave the way for Xaviers already fairly easy win, because his ego wouldnt let him go to the end with anybody else since he felt that the jury would respect the fact that he went to the end with someone better than him despite having several opportunities to take them out (because that has worked for so many people before, right?). And then when this backfired on him spectacularly, in a season where almost everyone, even those who had been duped/hurt/blindsided, left the house with grace, he again got extremely personal with Xavier over a blindside that he had coming to him, even bringing his nephew, who had nothing to do with the game, into the discussion. It was a REALLY disgusting ending to the arc of a guy who I really admired at the beginning of the season.

But even then, after all that, right up until the end of the finale, I was STILL considering not putting him in dead last for BB23, until Julie offered Kyland the opportunity to apologize to Xavier, and his response made Wills apology to Shirin look like someone groveling at her feet begging for forgiveness. Fuck your objective statement, you were bitter and took it way too far to a disgusting degree, and if youre not going to apologize for that over getting blindsided at the end of a game, then Im not going to factor in any meager redeeming qualities you brought to the season.

107. The first female to grace this list

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107. Miesha Tate (Celebrity Big Brother 3, 1st place) [10/11]
A lot of Todricks writeup can be C&Pd here. Although Miesha initially seemed like she could be a very interesting strategic player, she quickly devolved into a catty gossiper, hiding behind closed doors to talk shit with Todrick about everyone else. She was extremely hypocritical, took everything personally, and spoke as if she genuinely felt she were above and better than everyone else in the house. When Carson won HoH, before noms even took place, she immediately assumed her game was done and started pouting and acting like the poorest fucking sport. She refused to go see his HoH room with everyone else (hell, even Todrick went and was like, Youre not gonna come?) and you know damn well that if someone had done that to her she would have run to the DR and called them a spoiled brat. She just let herself unravel until she and Todrick decided to gaslite Shanna into becoming the house pariah and gave herself new hope. To her very minimal credit, she, unlike Todrick, actually seemed remorseful about getting that personal (albeit, with the better you than me caveat).

So after Miesha and Todrick get Carson to burn his HoH by eliminating one of his own closest allies, they immediately snake him the next round and then and go on to make it through the rest of the season with relative ease, with one of the pair winning HoH and/or Veto every single round from there on out. In the end she wasnt QUITE as bad as Todrick because she wasnt nearly as much of a try-hard and didnt constantly call everyone else stupid, forgetting that they could see the episodes/live-feeds after being voted out, so she doesnt rank quite as low (as Teddi so righteously put it when casting her jury vote, the lesser of two evils), but it was still incredibly annoying to see someone so unbelievably petty and self-centered be rewarded with the win in the end.

106. Was unconventionally-eliminated (quit, medivac, ejection, or a TAR team that did not return post-COVID)

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09/30/22 11:15:19 PM
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Kyland was petty on The Challenge too, not only toward Xavier, but also whining that Cayla (TAR) & Dom (Ghost Island) sending him into the arena was "emotional" since Kyland had put Dom into the fray earlier - but it was 100% by Cayla wanting to take a shot at one of the "big dogs" so she wanted to gun for either Kyland, Tyson, or Angela. Dom said Kyland since Dom wanted to take out a threat to him... and he was aligned with Angela and Tyson. Taking out his strongest enemy was 100% the right move. Kyland, being so self-centered, failed to see that. He sucks.

I didn't watch CBB3 so can't comment there. But it sounds like I didn't miss anything particularly enjoyable like I might have with Tough As Nails.

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10/01/22 1:11:16 AM
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Well, Jackson is the only one that deserves a such low placement out of the ones on the shows I've seen, and the whole lithium thing fits in with the awful stuff the recent people on the list have done, so I'm gonna guess him.

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106. Mikey Guerriero (Tough as Nails 2, 11th place) [11/12]
First person on the list to have the same ranking and placement within their season. The biggest reason Mikey isnt even lower than he already is is because we mercifully only had to deal with him for two episodes, while everyone else Ive mentioned so far went fairly deep into their season, except for Daniel, who was pre-jury but because of the three-episodes-a-week format was still in a lot of episodes. Out of the gate I knew Mikey was going to be tough to warm up to and I never did because he is an incredibly aggressive person and spent the first two episodes of TAN2 just bringing the whole mood down with his toxic masculinity (and Im really not one to use that phrase but Mikey really embodies it). He just screamed and complained and bullied his way through challenges, at one point literally knocking a middle-aged, overweight man off a pier and into the water below and not feeling one bit bad about it (the old I was doing the challenge, you shouldnt have been in my way defense). Just when I had had enough of his bullshit, Phil announced at the beginning of the third episode that Mikey was no longer in the game and left it as ambiguous as that. We still dont know too much about it, only that it was definitely an ejection and not a medivac as some initially speculated (he had irritated an old injury during one of the challenges) and that it wasnt for the Freight Train incident as they had examined the tapes thoroughly and determined that it was an accident (which it what I had concluded as well based on what we saw in the edit, even if his response WAS fucking awful). Anyway, unlike most eliminated contestants who remain in the game as part of the team challenge, Mikey was actually gone for the rest of the season (although, this season was wacky in that regard because of an additional TWO medivacs that were also disqualified from the team challenge) and we wouldnt be subjected to him anymore. Thank God.

105. Shared their first name with someone else on the same season

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105. Derek Frazier (Big Brother 23, 2nd place) [15/16]
Like with Kyland, if I could go back in time and tell myself in the first few weeks of the season that Id have Derek F this low not just for BB23 but on my overall list, Id have called myself crazy. Dont get me wrong, he wouldnt have been particularly high, because he was a do-nothing that sat around the house sleeping and eating and getting by by aligning himself with much, much, much better players, and he seemed kind of unpleasant to have to live with at times, but at least he was a funny, entertaining guy.

But then, also like Kyland, toward the end of the game, he completely threw away any good will I had toward him. After spending the game being in on things due in no small part to Azah, not to mention the fact that she spent a ton of her time defending some of his uncouth behaviors, he had the fucking nerve to tell her that he dragged her to the end and that she owed him. Im not saying that Azah played a fantastic game or anything, but she wasnt a fat lazy slob who was constantly threatening the harmony of the Cookout and came in dead last in almost every single competition. She didnt shout out a cocky, Im okay with that, baby! when she was put on the block because she knew she actually had to fight to stay in the game, while everyone wanted to take Big Ds ass to the end because they knew they were a slam dunk to win against him. And for the final two weeks of the season, he not only shoved his view of their relationship down her throat in a very bully-like manner, but down our throats as well. This continued right up to the end of the finale, where this delusional dude actually tried to say that he was just as responsible as the rest of the Cookout for their success, but couldnt back this claim up with hard facts, and in fact, from our point of view, bore the least responsibility in their success, largely due to not having a partner in the Master Plan (probably because nobody would ever vote to evict him over anybody who was even a tiny bit of a threat). It was very uncomfortable, very delusional, and you know what? The revelation that he came into the house saying he wanted to be on TV really made his entertainment value seem so contrived that I really dont want to give him too much credit for that, either.

104. A TAR team that was neither eliminated going into the hiatus nor dropped out due to the hiatus

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10/02/22 12:08:04 PM
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I've gotta catch up on these now.

First up: Scott. Damn right he's the worst winner on your list (not mine, because second place Sarah still gets a title, but whatever). The thing about Tough As Nails is that it's almost entirely challenge driven, but unlike the ironically-named Challenge, there's usually no strategy involved in who gets eliminated and when; it's almost entirely on your own skill as a competitor. Because of this, if you have a player who is just so far out in front of everyone else, their very presence can make the season boring (see: Danny from TaN1). This was Scott: four individual wins, three second places, never in danger of elimination. Now, that makes for BORING television, but what made Scott especially annoying was what you described: he was very arrogant and bossy when it came to the team game, and on multiple occasions, his team lost (to a FAR weaker Dirty Hands team) because his bad strategy and leadership. But he never really owned up to his failings, and just went on to dominate the individual challenges. I guess I ultimately hold winners to a higher standard too, becuase they're the culmination of a season's story...so having the arrogant jerk who wins everything...WIN (and win the team portion as well)...just was a completely unsatisfying end to the season. 135/142

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Kyland: I'm of two minds with Kyland. On the one hand, his endgame is ROUGH. The trend of dudebros dudebroing to their own detriment was part of the reason the BB24 finale was so nervewracking in the first half for me. But Kyland effectively killing his chances at winning by siding with Xavier over Tiffany (and using some obnoxious logic, like he wanted to compete against the best, but didn't target Azah/Derek F., as though Tiffany/Hannah were inferior despite pulling their weight just fine within the Cookout). It was also gross that this came on the heels of him hooking up with Tiffany during his F6 HoH week, only to send her home. The nephew comment upon his eviction was also gross...but at the same time, it was the kind of messy drama (from someone who just got evicted, so whatever) that makes for fun viewing. Given that we were going into an endgame with Xavier versus Derek F./Azah...whatever drama we could get was much appreciated.

Overall, I think Kyland is kind of an asshole, but he's an asshole in a very messy fashion that makes for fun television. I liked BB23 in spite of it being a steamroll, because it was largely a pleasant season...but Kyland's insanity and general attitude spiced things up a little bit. It sucked that he targeted fun characters like Frenchie, Britini and Tiffany with his HoHs, but sometimes it adds some spice to a season that could use a little flavor. I'm not saying I LOVED Kyland, but in the context of BB23, I think he was okay. 113/115

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10/02/22 12:20:32 PM
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Miesha: Miesha sucks, but she benefits a LOT by her association with Todrick, because EVERYONE looks better in comparison to Todrick. He was a fake tryhard who stirred up shit just to stir up shit and belittle people, whereas Miesha always came across as a UFCbot that just wanted to beastmode challenges and didn't care about running people over in the process. Her desires just happened to align with Todrick, since for whatever reason, he decided she was his ideal partner, so they made a lot of moves together. I put most of the worst blame on Todrick though, so Miesha comes out looking a little better, plus that endgame was dire, and once the Shanna eviction happened, it got to the point where I was like "I hope Miesha wins, because at least she deserves it". She's still awful, and CBB3 was still HORRIBLE, but at least she saved the season from NUMEROUS worse options (spoiler for my overall ranking). 128/142

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10/02/22 12:24:46 PM
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Mikey Eyebrows: Can't blame you for this one. I didn't rank him THIS low, if only because he lasted a grand total of two episodes, but he sucked in both episodes. Even going off his nickname, he was very much the "camwhore" of the season (which isn't great in a show like Tough As Nails), and within the first episode, he wound up accidentally shoving Patrick (on the other team) off a pier. He just came across like a dick, and then in episode two, we found out that he was cut from the season for undisclosed rule breakages. I'm pretty sure it's COVID-related, but whatever. 124/142

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10/02/22 12:40:09 PM
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Big D: Fucking FINALLY. I'm not kidding when I say that it was a tough call for me between Todrick and Derek F. in terms of determining the worst Big Brother character on this list. Ultimately, I went with Todrick because he played a more active role in creating a toxic house and the season sucked as a result, while Derek was just an asshole, and BB23 still turned out pretty okay. But Big D managed to hit SO many awful buttons with me, and his presence in the BB23 endgame was one of the most infuriating aspects of that season. Early on, he was a big ol' whatever, since the Jokers Team was a chaotic group and he was the bitchy gay guy among them. But he was still part of the Cookout, so he was safe and secure.

Now, I'm not going to badmouth a player JUST for sucking at comps, especially because modern Big Brother has become SO slanted in favor of athletic dudebros, but Derek sucking at comps actually played into his character in a negative way. From a point VERY early in the season, he got the BIGGEST head imaginable about how awesome of a player he was. And because he was perhaps the most misogynistic person in the cast, he got a big head about how awesome he was in comparison to the "useless" women he was aligned with. He shit on Tiffany especially, when she was doing much of the strategic heavy lifting for the Cookout (specifically cutting off her options when she was best positioned within the house, for the betterment of the alliance as a whole), and had the nerve to act like the Cookout was HIS idea. Derek did NOTHING by lay around, nap, and then pop up to talk about how he was some kind of mastermind. He shit on the women of the house SO much that, despite being the biggest slam dunk imaginable, he managed to convince Azah (who had, at that point, won an HoH and beaten Derek in part 2 of the FHOH) that he didn't deserve second place, and she would take Xavier if she won. How fucking awful do you have to be in the final week of the game to convince your allegedly closest ally (who he had to be convinced by Xavier to keep around over Kyland) that you don't deserve to make the final two? But of course, despite being absolutely terrible and useless, Derek was dragged to the end as a goat, and was rewarded with 75k for being a mean, nasty, worthless waste of space all season. It was such a frustrating ending to his story, because there was no real comeuppance. Even he wasn't so delusional to think he deserved to beat Xavier (because Xavier was a man and therefore had value in Derek's eyes), so him getting second is basically like him winning the best reward he possibly could, and that sucked. 140/142

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10/02/22 1:02:49 PM
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Finally, it's not part of your ranking, but time for another Challenge entry, since everyone below him has been ranked on your list.

138/142: Enzo Palumbo (The Challenge: USA - 9th Place)

Big Brother 12 and 22, Enzo's in a weird place in my mind where he's this useless sycophant most of the time who aligns himself with stronger players and gets carried deep into the game. BUT, he's never SO obnoxious that I rank him low...even though he's one of those "you could do better if you didn't insist on broing down with people who are obviously going to demolish you" kinds of players. As such, I wasn't EXCITED for him on the Challenge, but it wasn't like I was inherently rooting against him either. And you could be forgiven if you forgot Enzo was on the show for the first five episodes. He was never a great competitor; he lacked any sort of endurance, and he couldn't swim. Despite this, he managed to avoid being on the losing team through those first five episodes. And in those five episodes, the focus on eliminations was largely on either taking out Love Island/Amazing Race (due to the Survivor/Big Brother alliance), or targeting members of the BB23 Cookout due to spite for how BB23 went down. It also didn't help that, aside from Leo (whose personality and general lackadaisical attitude was negatives for him), there wasn't as strong of a push to eliminate the weaker GUYS as there was to eliminate the weaker GIRLS.

Anyway, episode six was when Enzo finally made a splash on the season...ironically by not making a splash at all. The teams had to jump into the ocean, climb up a hanging rope ladder, leap from a suspended shipping container to a secondary suspended platform, and memorize some symbols before jumping back into the water and replicating their memorized pattern. I'm not going to claim it's an easy challenge, but most of the teams accomplished it. Tyson and Kyra did not, due to Kyra being sick as a dog and lacking the strength necessary to make that leap, and because of this, it looked likely that they would wind up in elimination. Enter Enzo. After gingerly easing himself into the water and climbing up to the shipping container, he decided he was too afraid of heights to even TRY the leap. Thus Kyra, who even in her sickness gave it a SHOT, managed to avoid elimination. Meanwhile, Enzo's partner Justine (who'd already proven herself with a daily win AND an elimination win) got thrust into a bullshit elimination challenge with a partner who'd already proven himself absolutely pathetic.

Anyway, Enzo won because admittedly he and Justine used better strategy than Derek/Shannon (plus Shannon had an injured leg). But of the three remaining eliminations he was eligible for, Enzo partook in two of them, first by coming in last during a foot race, and then by being chosen as the only option for the massive Survivor alliance after David lost the daily challenge. In both cases, Enzo won these challenges because they were one-on-one physical altercations where his opponents were either much smaller than him (Leo in Hall Brawl) or just lacked any sort of endurance (David in Balls In). The point is, at a certain point, the other players (namely the women for whom Enzo's continued survival was a potential threat) TRIED to take him out on NUMEROUS occasions, but Enzo benefitted tremendously from all the strongest guys banding together so they'd never be at risk in the arena.

This all leads to the finale. Enzo got randomly paired with Desi in the first leg of the challenge, which was a swimming leg. And I don't know how long he TRIED the challenge in real time, but we watched Desi BEGGING him not to quit, only for him to not give a fuck, quit the challenge, and end up eliminating Desi as well through NO fault of her own. It hearkened back to that first elimination he faced, where Justine got fucked over because Enzo just didn't want to try. It was just so shitty on his part, constantly talking about how everyone underestimated him, and he wanted to rub it in their faces for thinking he was an easy elimination...and then he quits on the final leg and fucks Desi over. At the very least, David wouldn't have quit there.

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104. Akbar & Sheri (The Amazing Race 33, 6th place) [11/11]
It takes a lot to just REALLY get under my skin so most of the extremely scathing write-ups are pretty much out of the way, but the next few entries are still pretty awful. Right from episode 1 I did not like Akbar because he was just constantly berating Sheri and while I can appreciate a good bickering couple (see teams like Teri & Ian, Tim & Marie and Frank & Margarita being among my all-time favorites), when its a mostly one-sided roast of the stronger teammate constantly telling the weaker teammate how much they suck, I dislike/hate it. A couple of the challenges Sheri did worst on she was FORCED to do because Akbar literally couldnt do it for safety reasons due to his size (I mostly put this on the producers actually; its been speculated that at least one of those Roadblocks Moe was forced to do as well due to Michaels size, so its kind of irresponsible on the producers part to pick challenges that multiple racers literally cant do) and he still constantly screamed at her. There were a few lulls in this behavior which made me want to give them a chance but then it would pick back up again the next episode. And of course, after all this, they end up being eliminated because Akbar struggles on a physical challenge after all the grief he gave his wife for the same exact thing. By that point I was so sick of him that I couldnt even appreciate the irony. If anything it just pissed me off more. If this were a boring season that had, like, next to zero likable/rootable teams, I could MAYBE see myself appreciating him as a villain, but when, despite the disastrous production, most of the endgame teams were very enjoyable (kinda spoilers I guess) and there were even some likable teams that we lost due to the break, I just couldnt.

103. Was unconventionally eliminated AND officially placed last in their season (wow, we kinda actually had a lot of these...)

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10/02/22 9:45:03 PM
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Akbar sucks. He was depressingly annoying. A strange combination, I know.

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103. Was unconventionally eliminated AND officially placed last in their season (wow, we kinda actually had a lot of these...)
This has to be Jackson, because at least Paloma was entertainment. I don't know any others that would be in the conversation; putting Taylor/Isaiah this low after their tragic evacuation in TAR33 would be just mean, and I don't know any others. Jackson wasted a spot and there's no arguing around that one - by withholding critical information from production as to what drugs he was taking, there was no way he'd have ever made it past day 5, and I mean physically. I almost never agree with the "X wasted a spot!" people but this is one of those exceptions.

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103. Paloma Aguilar (Big Brother 24, 16th place) [13/16]
I definitely debated what to do with this one. On one hand, she brought some legitimate entertainment to the show during her brief stay, and could have been a truly great villain had she stuck around for the long-haul, but on the other hand, her actions resulted in a gigantic stain on the season that lasted long after she left, so ultimately her presence was a net negative. For the first week, Paloma was the dramatic and strategic driving force of the game. She frantically ran around the house making alliances and selecting targets in the most panicky fashion possible and it was actually kind of fun to watch. She even selected her best friend/closest ally, Alyssa, solely because, I shit you not, We both forget to take our make-up off before bed sometimes. She had me guessing whether she was going to be a secretly brilliant BB player or a delightful trainwreck. Then she decided to target Taylor because she noticed Taylor spending a lot of time with the men and that, combined with Taylors beauty pageant history, made Paloma assume that Taylor was intentionally playing the flirty, femme fatale game. In actuality, Taylor was a sweetheart who hung out with the men because she just genuinely got along better with men than women and wanted to spend her first week making friends. Instead, Paloma went around vilifying her and turning almost the entire house against her. And yes, plenty of this lies on other houseguests too and theres one person in particular that Im not going to let get away with their late-game attempts to mend the fence, but Paloma was literally running around the house telling everyone who will listen just how awful Taylor is and trying to turn her into the easy first boot.

Then after all this, Paloma suddenly started to feel bad about the way she treated Taylor and it started to affect her mental illnesses and look, Im not going to shame mental illnesses here. Ive got four that Im clinically diagnosed with and probably more that arent diagnosed. I believe that Paloma took a good self-assessment of her mental health and decided that not being in the game anymore was what was best for her and I dont put her in the just gave up quitters bin. But the damage she had done was done, and she left the house in an incredibly toxic state in her wake that it never completely recovered from, and I just couldnt shake the feeling that she kind of didnt have to deal with the consequences. Even after leaving the house, she said on social media that we didnt see the things Taylor said about her (others said the same thing, that we as an audience missed a lot of awful things from Taylor, but I find it incredibly hard to believe that someone who was otherwise mostly very nice said a lot of mean things that all happened to be while the feeds were down AND they didnt make the television edit) so it seemed like she still wanted to present Taylor as the instigator of all of this.

102. Inadvertently played a major role in orchestrating their own boot

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10/03/22 12:06:36 PM
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Akbar sucks. He was depressingly annoying. A strange combination, I know.

This has to be Jackson, because at least Paloma was entertainment. I don't know any others that would be in the conversation; putting Taylor/Isaiah this low after their tragic evacuation in TAR33 would be just mean, and I don't know any others. Jackson wasted a spot and there's no arguing around that one - by withholding critical information from production as to what drugs he was taking, there was no way he'd have ever made it past day 5, and I mean physically. I almost never agree with the "X wasted a spot!" people but this is one of those exceptions.

I can't imagine disliking Jackson this much. He seemed like a nice guy, and it wasn't like he was still taking drugs...he had started kicking the drug several weeks in advance and thought he would be okay in time for the show. It just didn't work out, and he wasn't aware that there was a possibility of lingering effects, combined with the dehydration and starvation.

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102. Nicole Layog (Big Brother 24, 13th place) [12/16]
The biggest reason Nicole isnt even lower than she is is because her downfall was one of the most hilariously satisfying in recent memory. Other than that, she pretty much sucks. She was one of the nastiest people to Taylor in the house, despite supposedly being women all the way, she was OBSESSED with getting rid of Taylor. Indy and Jasmine were to a degree as well but not on the level of Nicole. Nicole literally spent her entire time in the house talking to Daniel about how bad Taylor was and how imperative it was that they get her out ASAP (oh and talking about how good she is at reading people because she used to be a cop, despite being absolutely atrocious at reading people in the house).

In week three, as Taylors Festie Bestie, Nicole WANTED to go up on the block so that Taylor could be there as well and everyone could vote her out (because that worked so well for Pooch just the week prior). So when they get picked to play in the Veto competition, Nicole goes into her room and starts crying because she doesnt want to throw the competition because its not in her nature but she knows she has to for the good of the house. Taylor, being a sweet person, believes that Nicole is crying because of her sick mother, so she goes in to comfort her. Believing Nicole has her best interest in mind, Taylor basically tells Nicole to just do what she needs to do as far as the competition is concerned and if shes not feeling 100% not to push it. Nicole flips out on her and asks how dare she accuse her of not giving it her all because shed never give up on anything, even though the literal reason Nicole was crying in the first place was because she was planning on giving up in the challenge. So the hypocrite runs out to Daniel and everyone else and tells them that Taylor just used her sick mother as a chess piece to try and get her to quit the game, which ignites Daniels attack on Taylor. When Taylor turns to Nicole for support, Nicole doesnt give her any and sternly tells her that she needs to watch how she speaks to people.

So after all that, Nicole still puts an effort into the challenge that makes Peih-Gee and Jaimes challenge throw look good, and is stunned when the veto is instead used to take out her friend Ameerah. And despite being blindsided by that vote, she STILL THINKS that shes in with the majority of the house and offers herself up as a pawn to get rid of Taylor AGAIN. Needless to say, she is evicted by everyone except Daniel, aka the only person more clueless as to whats going on in the game than her (even Terrance voted with the majority on this one that tells you something) and leaves the house utterly stunned. It was honestly one of the most satisfying blindsides Ive ever seen, and upon leaving the house she was rightfully grilled for her treatment of Taylor. Ultimately, my feelings and her placement here are very similar to those of Jack in BB21 - she was awful and is still quite low on my overall list, but because she was edited to be unlikable, had an extremely satisfying downfall and got stomped on for her behavior upon leaving, she avoids the bottom few spots for her own season.

101. A pre-jury man

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10/03/22 4:28:40 PM
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I can't imagine disliking Jackson this much. He seemed like a nice guy, and it wasn't like he was still taking drugs...he had started kicking the drug several weeks in advance and thought he would be okay in time for the show. It just didn't work out, and he wasn't aware that there was a possibility of lingering effects, combined with the dehydration and starvation.
I don't dislike Jackson, just dislike that he took up a spot by hiding something of the utmost importance from production. That, mixed with him only being there one episode, are enough for him to be in my bottom 20.

Remember: I try to judge by entertainment value, and I rather enjoy having people to hate. Unless those people are soul-suckingly insufferable, like Karen Lacina, I tend to appreciate their presence because it makes me actually feel something - which is what S43 is presently lacking. It is quite rare that I despise anyone to the extent that I feel they detract from the final product. I can already tell that Nicole would be quite a bit higher for me solely because an epic villain comeuppance is amazing. But, since I'd still find her to be a bully, she wouldn't be THAT high.

A lot of my bottom 20 people would be boring wastes of space or people who suck while not being entertaining with their suckitude. Karen Lacina would be at the bottom because of how draining her presence was - and how she got rewarded for being insufferable.

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