Board 8 > Batgirl movie cancelled, despite being essentially finished

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LightningStrikes
08/02/22 7:40:33 PM
#1:


https://variety.com/2022/film/news/batgirl-not-released-warner-bros-hbo-max-1235331897/

WTF

The really relevant part:

Studio insiders insist the decision to axe Batgirl was not driven by the quality of the film or the commitment of the filmmakers, but by the desire for the studios slate of DC features to be at a blockbuster scale.


So it wasnt even bad (had supposedly been testing well) but they scrapped it despite being all but finished because it wasnt a blockbuster-sized film. $90 million down the drain. What on Earth is going on at WB?

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HanOfTheNekos
08/02/22 7:41:05 PM
#2:


Boooo

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GuessMyUserName
08/02/22 7:43:42 PM
#3:


dc really can't catch a single break

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masterplum
08/02/22 8:07:18 PM
#4:


I heard it had poor screenings.

Still, if it was done enough to have screenings what the hell

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GuessMyUserName
08/02/22 8:09:05 PM
#5:


just start a morbin' meme and get the irony money dammit

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Xeybozn
08/02/22 8:10:20 PM
#6:


LightningStrikes posted...
What on Earth is going on at WB?

Weren't they taken over by Discovery? Clearly the new management wants them to fail, making it possible to force them to make nothing but cheap reality shows.

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Paratroopa1
08/02/22 8:10:37 PM
#7:


Why wouldn't you just throw it onto a streaming service or something at minimum
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PrivateBiscuit1
08/02/22 8:14:57 PM
#8:


Paratroopa1 posted...
Why wouldn't you just throw it onto a streaming service or something at minimum
This is what I was thinking, yeah. This is so bizarre.

Especially since you know Aquaman 2 and Flash aren't going to do as well because of controversies.

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GuessMyUserName
08/02/22 8:16:18 PM
#9:


dceu movie cancelled

not ezra miller's

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Leonhart4
08/02/22 8:18:34 PM
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Would rather make zero money than make some money, just not as much as you want

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PrivateBiscuit1
08/02/22 8:21:02 PM
#11:


GuessMyUserName posted...
dceu movie cancelled

not ezra miller's
Them not speaking up about Flash right now is intensely disappointing since Ezra Miller is a fucking psychotic criminal who should be in jail yesterday. The only thing I can think of is that if they announce something about the movie that it might trigger Ezra to do something awful, but that's attributing a lot of care from studio execs.

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Leonhart4
08/02/22 8:21:39 PM
#12:


also wasn't this supposed to have Michael Keaton as old Batman in it

what a waste

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GuessMyUserName
08/02/22 8:24:58 PM
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PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Them not speaking up about Flash right now is intensely disappointing since Ezra Miller is a fucking psychotic criminal who should be in jail yesterday. The only thing I can think of is that if they announce something about the movie that it might trigger Ezra to do something awful, but that's attributing a lot of care from studio execs.
just waiting for the reveal that The Flash will be in constant vibration-face the whole movie

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PrivateBiscuit1
08/02/22 8:25:56 PM
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https://twitter.com/ComicGirlAshley/status/1554595049396125697?t=Hz7v6Ap07jncVfwQqS7f4w&s=19

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UshiromiyaEva
08/02/22 8:27:34 PM
#15:


Leonhart4 posted...
also wasn't this supposed to have Michael Keaton as old Batman in it

what a waste

Michael Keaten was supposed to be in Aquaman 2 I think.

Whatever he was in though it was already confirmed he was replaced with Affleck in it last week.

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Grand_Kirby
08/02/22 8:33:16 PM
#16:


Wait, Brendan Fraser was going to be in this?

Screw you WB

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bryans7
08/02/22 8:40:46 PM
#17:


Tinfoil hat time: Maybe they cancelled it to generate backlash so they can come back later and say, "We listened to the fans, here's Batgirl" and then people are happy even though WB are the ones that cancelled it in the first place.

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Grand_Kirby
08/02/22 8:54:24 PM
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bryans7 posted...
Tinfoil hat time: Maybe they cancelled it to generate backlash so they can come back later and say, "We listened to the fans, here's Batgirl" and then people are happy even though WB are the ones that cancelled it in the first place.
Well, I was thinking about this message:

Leonhart4 posted...
Would rather make zero money than make some money, just not as much as you want

And thought about how since there's still marketing costs to consider they technically could lose more money releasing the film than burying it even though it's basically complete. But what better way to get free marketing than to get people to talk about and rally for "the movie they won't let us have!"?


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Pokalicious
08/02/22 8:57:26 PM
#19:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Michael Keaten was supposed to be in Aquaman 2 I think.
I believe he was supposed to be in The Flash, Aquaman 2 and Batgirl.

But since The Flash will not come out before Aquaman 2, his cameo appearance was replaced by Ben Affleck.

The Flash (tv show) has been announced will end with Season 9, and I think The Flash (movie) will be cancelled next.

Also rumors are that HBO Max will be absorbed by Discovery+ so thay will also end up disappearing.

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GuessMyUserName
08/02/22 8:58:19 PM
#20:


#ReleaseTheBatgirlScreening

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Pokalicious
08/02/22 8:59:19 PM
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This definitely seems to be the end of the current DC/DCEU projects, after Aquaman 2, Shazam 2 and Black Adam.

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UshiromiyaEva
08/02/22 9:00:11 PM
#22:


Pokalicious posted...
Also rumors are that HBO Max will be absorbed by Discovery+ so thay will also end up disappearing.

...But HBO Max has good content and people like it and Discovery+ has nothing and nobody cares about it.

Should be reversed!

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Pokalicious
08/02/22 9:00:42 PM
#23:


Also, I feel bad for everyone who put all their time and effort into this film. Poor Leslie Grace.

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PrivateBiscuit1
08/02/22 9:01:39 PM
#24:


I mean, it should absolutely be put on streaming.

The thing is that it probably just wasn't good at all, didn't have big enough actors to point people at (aside from Keaton potentially), and they don't think Batgirl will be big enough to carry her own film and get butts in seats. Put all of that together and it makes sense they don't have a ton of faith in it to go on the full movie release rush.

If Discovery is smart, they completely reset on the DC cinematic universe and just focus on putting a lot of high quality movies out starring individual heroes or small teams. Get a whole ass cinematic universe the right way. They've had too many shitty movies out for anyone to even have faith in them. The only ones people have universally enjoyed were The Batman and Shazam. After WW1984 I think people lost any faith in Wonder Woman.

It feels like Discovery is inheriting a mess and doesn't know what to do exactly but they're trying to weigh everything and gutted Batgirl because they have no faith in it.

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PrivateBiscuit1
08/02/22 9:02:39 PM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
...But HBO Max has good content and people like it and Discovery+ has nothing and nobody cares about it.

Should be reversed!
I'm pretty sure this has to be false. No way they're getting rid of the HBO Max name.

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redrocket
08/02/22 9:03:24 PM
#26:


Grand_Kirby posted...
Well, I was thinking about this message:

And thought about how since there's still marketing costs to consider they technically could lose more money releasing the film than burying it even though it's basically complete.

The movie is done. Burying it only makes sense if they think it wont even make back the marketing/distribution costs, which is just wut.


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Anagram
08/02/22 9:03:59 PM
#27:


Perhaps the movie is so awful that they think it'd damage the brand more than losing 90 million dollars is worth.

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Leonhart4
08/02/22 9:08:03 PM
#28:


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Perhaps the movie is so awful that they think it'd damage the brand more than losing 90 million dollars is worth.

They haven't worried about damaging the brand before, why start now?

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GuessMyUserName
08/02/22 9:08:12 PM
#29:


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Perhaps the movie is so awful that they think it'd damage the brand more than losing 90 million dollars is worth.
given the rest of the disasters it really makes me want to see batgirl so much

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PrivateBiscuit1
08/02/22 9:08:45 PM
#30:


Leonhart4 posted...
They haven't worried about damaging the brand before, why start now?
Because they thought the things that damaged their brand weren't actually going to damage their brand.

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Leonhart4
08/02/22 9:09:36 PM
#31:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Because they thought the things that damaged their brand weren't actually going to damage their brand.

The point is that the damage has already been done and is basically irreparable. They're fooling themselves if they think otherwise.

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PrivateBiscuit1
08/02/22 9:13:51 PM
#32:


Leonhart4 posted...
The point is that the damage has already been done and is basically irreparable. They're fooling themselves if they think otherwise.
Because they don't want to be set back when they have things like The Batman, Shazam 2, and Black Adam they think will be bangers, and putting out a piece of shit will just make people lose faith.

The tricky part is what you do with Aquaman 2 and Flash. I don't think Flash has any shot of being good, Ezra Miller aside. Aquaman 2 will probably be pretty good but you have to deal with the Amber Heard problem.

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BlueCrystalTear
08/02/22 9:14:04 PM
#33:


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Perhaps the movie is so awful that they think it'd damage the brand more than losing 90 million dollars is worth.
You'd think that them keeping Amber Turd and Ezra Milker on their payroll would damage their brand more than one even worse movie in an already bad extended universe.

I heard both the first Wonder Woman movie and Aquaman were pretty good but 1984 was horrendous and Aquaman hasn't replaced the harpy yet.

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KamikazePotato
08/02/22 9:39:49 PM
#34:


The info I've found points to the film's cancellation not being because of its quality (test screenings were decent), but because Discovery wanted tax writeoffs after the merger.

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/batgirl-movie-why-not-releasing-warner-bros-1235332062/

They're also gutting HBO Max, so that's neat.

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swordz9
08/02/22 9:42:04 PM
#35:


This topic is full of depressing news, but what the actual fuck at Discovery going to own HBO? Like literally how. HBO actually has content and Discovery is basically nothing but scripted reality tv trash
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UshiromiyaEva
08/02/22 9:44:19 PM
#36:


swordz9 posted...
This topic is full of depressing news, but what the actual fuck at Discovery going to own HBO? Like literally how. HBO actually has content and Discovery is basically nothing but scripted reality tv trash

Well you have to realize the average American is a brain dead moron and only wants empty trash. They're rather watch Diner's, Drive Ins, and Dives than Succession because hey don't have to think and can browse through Tik Tok while it's on.

No offense to Guy Fieri the man is a treasure.

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PrivateBiscuit1
08/02/22 9:45:18 PM
#37:


BossLogic routinely is contracted by DC and Marvel to make dope art and he's saying more bad DC news is coming. I would think he has connections in the industry that might be in the know.

Expecting Blue Beetle to be axed next.

https://twitter.com/Bosslogic/status/1554642938847563776?t=vbo3xCasw5Sax7kCtnvltQ&s=19

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paperwarior
08/02/22 9:45:57 PM
#38:


All sorts of semi-obscure comic book characters get handed their own series or film now, but Batgirl doesn't have enough mass appeal?

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UshiromiyaEva
08/02/22 9:45:59 PM
#39:


I will lose my shit if BB is canned.

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KamikazePotato
08/02/22 9:48:03 PM
#40:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Well you have to realize the average American is a brain dead moron and only wants empty trash. They're rather watch Diner's, Drive Ins, and Dives than Succession because hey don't have to think and can browse through Tik Tok while it's on.
I'm not saying this is incorrect, but Discovery isn't gutting HBO and WB because the latter two were somehow failing. A lot of it is because the new guy in charge (David Zaslav) wants to come across as being the big guy in charge.

https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/wemzu1/comment/iip9tkp/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

A metric ton of stuff was canned. Batgirl is just the tip of the iceberg.

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swordz9
08/02/22 9:49:23 PM
#41:


Ill lose my shit more if they decided to cut Harley Quinn after S3. Seriously fuck Discovery if they gut a lot of stuff.
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KamikazePotato
08/02/22 9:50:13 PM
#42:


swordz9 posted...
Ill lose my shit more if they decided to cut Harley Quinn after S3. Seriously fuck Discovery if they gut a lot of stuff.
HBO Max probably won't exist in a year, so uh good luck to it.

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swordz9
08/02/22 9:54:54 PM
#43:


If theyre expecting people to sub to Discovery for the HBO stuff I think theyll find tons of people will just go back to pirating instead since it would be paying extra for the absolutely nothing worth of value on the Discovery end!
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UshiromiyaEva
08/02/22 9:56:51 PM
#44:


There's an animated series that looks kind of interesting that got announced for Discovery+ a week ago, so....1 thing?

But yeah I would pirate first before subscribing to Food Network to watch Harley Quinn.

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bryans7
08/02/22 9:58:37 PM
#45:


I had to check and whew Doom Patrol S4 is finished so at least that will (probably) get released.

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colliding
08/02/22 10:00:46 PM
#46:


In ten years disney will own DC anyway so just wait

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KamikazePotato
08/02/22 10:01:22 PM
#47:


For those who don't want to click on the link, here's a list of SOME of the stuff canned so far:

  • CNN+ and all of its programming just a matter of days after its launch.
  • Raised by Wolves (HBO Max)
  • Close Enough (HBO Max)
  • Gordita Chronicles (HBO Max)
  • Made for Love (HBO Max)
  • Chad (TBS, hours before its season premiere was set to air.)
  • Full Frontal with Samantha Bee (TBS)
  • Three Busy Debras (Adult Swim)
  • Joe Pera Talks with You (Adult Swim)
  • Naomi (The CW)
  • Legends of Tomorrow (The CW)
  • Snowpiercer (TNT, during production on their fourth season.)
  • The Wonder Twins film, shortly after the leads were announced.
  • Scoob!: Holiday Haunt, which was reportedly all but finished.
  • Batgirl, after the movie was already made.


Stuff not canned:

  • Rick and Morty
  • Euphoria
  • The sequels to Joker and The Batman
  • Teen Titans Go!
  • Last Week Tonight with John Oliver

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swordz9
08/02/22 10:04:20 PM
#48:


Too bad it isnt Discovery just going bankrupt. That wouldve been actual good news, but I guess we arent allowed many nice things :(
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PrivateBiscuit1
08/02/22 10:10:53 PM
#49:


Made For Love getting canceled hurt.

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masterplum
08/02/22 10:17:03 PM
#50:


PrivateBiscuit1 posted...
Joe Pera getting canceled hurt.


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