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Questionmarktarius 07/06/22 3:21:01 AM #1: |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_A8LPtuX5c Prove me wrong. Only one nation has used a nuclear weapon against another nation... twice. Only one nation has more firearms than people. Goddammit @antifar, this is why I like you. I'm probably the last of the far-righties left on CE, mostly because Rand and Sowell and Reagan, and I'm slipping. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheBrainbuster 07/06/22 3:23:54 AM #2: |
The use of nuclear weapons saved millions upon millions of Japanese civilians and US soldiers, so... --- Final Fantasy IV is the greatest game ever MADE!!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 07/06/22 3:26:02 AM #3: |
TheBrainbuster posted... The use of nuclear weapons saved millions upon millions of Japanese civilians and US soldiers, so...I don't disagree. Operation Downfall was going to be a disaster, and we finally ran out out of the purple hearts minted for it in Afghanistan https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/176762 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 07/06/22 3:45:49 AM #4: |
TheBrainbuster posted... The use of nuclear weapons saved millions upon millions of Japanese civilians and US soldiers, so...No, it didn't. Russia (or rather, the Soviet Union) breaking neutrality did that. --- But I Trumble from there! http://error1355.com/ce/Trumble.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 07/06/22 3:52:07 AM #5: |
Trumble posted... No, it didn't. Russia (or rather, the Soviet Union) breaking neutrality did that.Two cities were instantly obliterated, and also the Soviets are here, broke Japan's resolve pretty quickly. Truman obliterated Hiroshima and Nagasaki because the Soviets were moving in. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Priere 07/06/22 4:12:03 AM #6: |
Weren't more people cooked to death in the firebombings than both nukes combined? Why do people never mention that and just focus on the nukes? --- https://imgur.com/iQep35u https://i.imgur.com/PmX8smn.gif https://i.imgur.com/mwTy0iF.gif https://i.imgur.com/FCER80e.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 07/06/22 4:14:40 AM #7: |
Priere posted... Weren't more people cooked to death in the firebombings than both nukes combined?There is a mild difference when years-long bombing campaigns and dropping literally two bombs have comparable body counts. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 07/06/22 4:15:00 AM #8: |
Priere posted... Weren't more people cooked to death in the firebombings than both nukes combined?Tokyo had fire tornadoes. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Priere 07/06/22 4:16:44 AM #9: |
DrizztLink posted... There is a mild difference when years-long bombing campaigns and dropping literally two bombs have comparable body counts.The one night firebombing of Tokyo killed around 100k alone. It didnt take an entire year to rack up the count --- https://imgur.com/iQep35u https://i.imgur.com/PmX8smn.gif https://i.imgur.com/mwTy0iF.gif https://i.imgur.com/FCER80e.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 07/06/22 4:18:27 AM #10: |
Priere posted... The one night firebombing of Tokyo killed around 100k alone. It didnt take an entire year to rack up the counthttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/9/0/AABUaRAADa6y.jpg 2000 tons of ordinances. Two bombs. Stop being obtuse. --- http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 07/06/22 4:21:09 AM #11: |
48 hours is a hell of a lot longer than instantaneous. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnholyMudcrab 07/06/22 4:21:38 AM #12: |
Oh boy, it's time for yet another atomic bombs topic --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Priere 07/06/22 4:21:53 AM #13: |
DrizztLink posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/9/0/AABUaRAADa6y.jpgYou're the one being purposely dense, as always. You completely missed the point of the question and try to downplay what happened. --- https://imgur.com/iQep35u https://i.imgur.com/PmX8smn.gif https://i.imgur.com/mwTy0iF.gif https://i.imgur.com/FCER80e.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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indica 07/06/22 4:57:48 AM #14: |
Having lived overseas, The U.S. is legitimately the most terrifying country in the world. --- There is no good. There is no evil. There just is. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 07/06/22 5:09:07 AM #15: |
indica posted... Having lived overseas, The U.S. is legitimately the most terrifying country in the world.Were I to make a guess, the nation that would fear the US the most would be Zimbabwe. Russia and China are making active stabs at America's sole hyperpower status. Canada is a best buddy, almost all of Europe are friends, and the entire western hemisphere is dominated (including Cuba, Venezuela, and also Denmark) Zimbabwe is the only part of the old British empire that has not been cleaned up. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 07/06/22 5:16:56 AM #16: |
Questionmarktarius posted... Two cities were instantly obliterated, and also the Soviets are here, broke Japan's resolve pretty quickly.The officials responsible for the decision to surrender were not even aware of Nagasaki at the time said decision was made. --- But I Trumble from there! http://error1355.com/ce/Trumble.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WorsCaseOntario 07/06/22 5:22:17 AM #17: |
The bombs were necessary. The alternative was invasion which would have been far worse. We still have a surplus of purple hearts because so many were made in anticipation of the casualties. --- Frankly my dear, I don't give a ham. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 07/06/22 5:26:13 AM #18: |
WorsCaseOntario posted... We still have a surplus of purple hearts because so many were made in anticipation of the casualties.They finally ran out in Afghanistan ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnholyMudcrab 07/06/22 5:31:04 AM #19: |
Trumble posted... The officials responsible for the decision to surrender were not even aware of Nagasaki at the time said decision was made.A meeting was held the day of the Nagasaki bombing and adjourned without reaching a consensus on surrender. The Emperor didn't make his final decision until several days later. --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 07/06/22 5:34:24 AM #20: |
We were going to blow up Kokura, but it was too cloudy. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lord_Shadow 07/06/22 5:48:08 AM #21: |
The nukes were way better option For Japan then being half occupied by the Soviets --- GT My Lord Shadow "Your Grace, please, the people have surrendered..." "I didn't offer surrender." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 07/06/22 6:00:29 AM #22: |
Lord_Shadow posted... half occupied by the Sovietsthat happened anyway https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakhalin ... Copied to Clipboard!
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teep_ 07/06/22 7:11:29 AM #23: |
I still don't understand why cities were nuked and not, say, an empty island off the coast of Japan. That way would have demonstrated the power of the nukes without the human death toll --- A shepherd dressed in his Sunday finest still reeks of lamb! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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whitelytning 07/06/22 7:15:47 AM #24: |
What does rogue nation mean? --- ************************************************ http://i.imgur.com/iZdWIKJ.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 07/06/22 7:18:16 AM #25: |
The nuclear weapons were used because 1) congress needed to justify the billions in unaccounted for research budget, and 2) Truman wanted Japan to surrender to the US to gain it as a strategic location, rather than Japan falling in the hands of the Soviet Union, a rising power with opposed ideology. It had nothing to do with saving lives lol --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prismsblade 07/06/22 8:05:59 AM #26: |
It's kind of interesting how much the US is considered the bad guys in modern for stomping Japan shit in by the end. When they were objectively the bad guys with a goal and ideology very similar to the Nazis. Nor are they ever called out for refusing to surrender, years prior, continuing a hopeless war, and sending near a entire generations of youths their deaths to protect their cowardly high command. --- 3DS FC:3368-5403-9633 Name: Kaizer PSN: Blackkaizer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkRoast 07/06/22 8:28:27 AM #27: |
Doe posted... The nuclear weapons were used because 1) congress needed to justify the billions in unaccounted for research budget, and Would Japan have done well in the Soviet Union? Casual reminder that the Soviets absolutely hated the Japanese because of the war they lost in the 1800s. --- Lenovo Legion 7 - Ryzen 5900HX, RTX 3080 16 GB (165W), 32 GB DDR4-3200 By Grabthar's hammer............... What a laptop. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 07/06/22 9:02:03 AM #28: |
DarkRoast posted... Would Japan have done well in the Soviet Union?The Americans absolutely hated the Japanese lol. --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkRoast 07/06/22 9:46:05 AM #29: |
Doe posted... The Americans absolutely hated the Japanese lol. Truman didn't kill 20 million people in 10 years for the sole reason of those people being not American enough. --- Lenovo Legion 7 - Ryzen 5900HX, RTX 3080 16 GB (165W), 32 GB DDR4-3200 By Grabthar's hammer............... What a laptop. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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