Poll of the Day > Maybe chips in the brain aren't a bad idea

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If it prevents people from having nazi ideas/thoughts. Imagine a human race without the evils of nazism.

Thoughtcrime and crimethink?

Long as you add salsa, I'm down.

mharbenedict34 posted...

Imagine a human race without the evils of nazism.

Imagine a human race without any evil at all.
Imagine a human race without free will, since humans are generally capable of evil only because they have free will.

Is this not just a race of robots that you can program to do what you tell them to do, to think what you tell them to think, and to feel what you tell them to feel?

If anything it would be used to induce nazi ideas.

Nichtcrawler-X posted...

Thoughtcrime and crimethink?

Evil can be vanquished and no lives would be lost.

pedophilia, racism, etc can be corrected through force.

Fascism is not the solution.

You should probably read 1984

Cool ranch please

Muscles posted...

You should probably read 1984

Going by several of his topics on the frontpage, it almost comes across like he is doing a bit where he is the "victim" of such a government and is now trying to convince others.

Without evil there is no good.

yes as long as racists aren't allowed to express their views it'd be totally worth it to plug the overlord into our brain and have big brother think for us. Fantastic idea.

11110111011 posted...

Without evil there is no good.

Not true.

Do you need evil for a fawn or deer to exist? Without evil many animals would live peaceful happy lives, not harming anything and living in balance with nature.

Some might say "without animals to hunt them, they would overpopulate and eventually starve", but even the animals that eat them are not evil, they are just hungry and kill only for food, not sport.

So yes, you can have good without evil, and no, the definition of good isn't based on something to compare it with. Good is simply the act of existing in harmony with the life/universe around you, without disrupting the lives of others and causing more suffering than is needed for life to continue.

Evil is being selfish, harming others because you want something and think your own happiness is more important. Evil is going against nature and making the universe a harsher place. Evil is usually a concious act by man or animal to cause harm to others (or even yourself).

Evil can not exist without good, that is true, as without anything good in the universe, there would be nothing to harm, there would be no basis for evil at all. Good on the other hand is the natural state, and evil is the abomination, the mutation, the other path. Evil is when you take something good, and twist it, to make it a negative instead of a positive.

Sadly evil is common and even the best people often commit at least some evil acts. Animals on the other hand are more simple and while there are certainly animals that commit evil acts (cats, rats, birds etc) some animals rarely do, or never do.

A world without evil might be dull, but it would certainly be safe and everything living in it would be happy. It would not have to be totally boring though, there could still be happiness, achievements etc, just most competition would be for fun at most, and progress would almost certainly take much longer (especially technological progress etc, since no wars etc).

We could probably create such a world, almost definitely with the tech we have now, but evil is so ingrained in us that it's not very likely to happen, especially since most of those in positions of power, get there by doing many evil acts and believe that makes it their right to control everything.

mharbenedict34 posted...

Evil can be vanquished and no lives would be lost.

pedophilia, racism, etc can be corrected through force.

People also wouldnt be people anymore And people would force you into situations you arent happy with. For example, Im gay. But they would probably make me have a straight relationship. No thank you. I like being happy

"Any dream of utopia is inherently incompatible with the concept of free will."

wolfy42 posted...

Not true.

Do you need evil for a fawn or deer to exist? Without evil many animals would live peaceful happy lives, not harming anything and living in balance with nature.

Some might say "without animals to hunt them, they would overpopulate and eventually starve", but even the animals that eat them are not evil, they are just hungry and kill only for food, not sport.

So yes, you can have good without evil, and no, the definition of good isn't based on something to compare it with. Good is simply the act of existing in harmony with the life/universe around you, without disrupting the lives of others and causing more suffering than is needed for life to continue.

Evil is being selfish, harming others because you want something and think your own happiness is more important. Evil is going against nature and making the universe a harsher place. Evil is usually a concious act by man or animal to cause harm to others (or even yourself).

Evil can not exist without good, that is true, as without anything good in the universe, there would be nothing to harm, there would be no basis for evil at all. Good on the other hand is the natural state, and evil is the abomination, the mutation, the other path. Evil is when you take something good, and twist it, to make it a negative instead of a positive.

Sadly evil is common and even the best people often commit at least some evil acts. Animals on the other hand are more simple and while there are certainly animals that commit evil acts (cats, rats, birds etc) some animals rarely do, or never do.

A world without evil might be dull, but it would certainly be safe and everything living in it would be happy. It would not have to be totally boring though, there could still be happiness, achievements etc, just most competition would be for fun at most, and progress would almost certainly take much longer (especially technological progress etc, since no wars etc).

We could probably create such a world, almost definitely with the tech we have now, but evil is so ingrained in us that it's not very likely to happen, especially since most of those in positions of power, get there by doing many evil acts and believe that makes it their right to control everything.

Cats kill for sport.

Revelation34 posted...

Cats kill for sport.

This is true And not just our little house cats. The big cats do, as well

It's gonna happen whether we like it or not. At first they'll do a free test batch, then a larger, then secretly do overboard shit in a secret NDA.

Then once it works, they'll give the primo ones to the rich elites and the slave chips to us. Then they will milk us for everything we are worth. They'll do it slowly so people don't fight back. And by the time it's in our faces it will be too late and your own people would fight to stop you.

So anyway, have fun living for the remainder. Bug protein and charge pods are your fate. I hope I'm wrong. Hopefully it'll be past our life times. But trust me, we'll beg for it. They won't have to force us. They'll shut off our hippocampus while we are toiling by day so we don't remember it, similar to being black out drunk. Then they'll let us play VR games a few minutes before our charge cycle. They'll use our dream space for computing power and analytics.