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GS4Life
07/01/22 2:17:17 AM
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Better than
Freeza
Majin Buu
Vegeta
King Piccolo
Piccolo Jr.
Jiren
Beerus
Pilaf
Ginyu
Zamasu
Goku Black
Hit
Moro
Gas
Tao Pi-Pi
Commander Red
Broly (Movie or Super)
Cooler
Turles
Garlic Jr
General Rildo
Super 17
Baby
Omega Shenron
Cell Max, groan

You name it

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Xethuminra
07/01/22 2:18:22 AM
#2:


That silky smooth voice
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iPhone_7
07/01/22 2:19:10 AM
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GS4Life posted...
Tao Pi-Pi

heh, Pi-Pi

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Back_Stabbath
07/01/22 2:30:05 AM
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You have the last dude in the thread so ima fucken talk about him (Spoilers for Dragon Ball: Super Hero)

imagine bringing back one of their best villains that everyone has a nostalgia boner for and then giving him absolutely zero personality, a mindless fucking hulk. yikes.

movie looks better visual wise than the trailers though for sure.

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discodancer77
07/01/22 2:31:14 AM
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In DBZ: Abridged, yes, but in the actual canon he kind of loses a lot of steam once he becomes perfect. The chase aspect of him playing cat and mouse with the androids while avoiding big hitters like Piccolo was awesome

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Ivany2008
07/01/22 2:32:29 AM
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As a villain, I honestly prefer General Rildo. From what I remember, he was one of the few antagonists to actually fight using any means necessary.
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afrodude77
07/01/22 2:36:07 AM
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Nah it's really Frieza ruler of the north galaxy and unlike Buu and Frieza didn't need regeneration dude was just a tank who refused to die. His natural power was so fearsome that it took a literal legend to drop him and honestly if he bothered to train more no one could stop him.

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Naysaspace
07/01/22 2:36:55 AM
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the nostalgia goggles are strong in this topic

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GS4Life
07/01/22 2:46:37 AM
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Freeza only made up a small part of Cell

Cell killed both the guy who embarrassed Freeza in his first defeat (Goku) and the guy who killed Freeza (Future Trunks)

Cell's potential is unlimited

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Xethuminra
07/01/22 2:47:39 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/2/7/AAatkdAADZtP.jpg
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ViewtifulJoe
07/01/22 2:48:48 AM
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I didn't like abridged Cell. They just added singing and make him tell meh recurring jokes. Didn't have much of a dynamic with the other characters either.
Abridged Namek was the peak for that series. They had Frieza, his two lackeys, the whole Ginyu Force and a Vegeta who hadn't gone full moron yet to work with. Cell saga just had the Androids and Cell and because of how integral they were and how long they'd stick around, they couldn't get too inventive or fun with the abridged incarnations of them.

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Vegy
07/01/22 6:09:42 AM
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He was so badass

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A_Good_Boy
07/01/22 6:15:33 AM
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I don't see General Blue in that list, so that's at least one villain that Cell isn't better than.

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LordYeezus
07/01/22 7:28:22 AM
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Coolest looking for sure. I remember getting chills seeing him for the first time

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Poorly
07/01/22 7:30:28 AM
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Vegy posted...
He was so badass
She has good ass

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Irony
07/01/22 7:31:54 AM
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No

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008Zulu
07/01/22 7:42:01 AM
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Perfect jawline.

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Flauros
07/01/22 7:42:52 AM
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Super Buu was better and more cocky.

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Poorly
07/01/22 7:57:01 AM
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Flauros posted...
Super Buu was better and more cocky.
He killed civilians

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Flauros
07/01/22 8:02:18 AM
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Poorly posted...
He killed civilians
And?

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Poorly
07/01/22 8:03:46 AM
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Flauros posted...
And?
Without remorse

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saspa
07/01/22 8:04:25 AM
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*Perfect Seiryuu

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Very_Unreliable
07/01/22 8:14:28 AM
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Weird flex, naming literal nobodies; you just wanted to show off that you had a collection of names of vaguely oppositional characters in the narrative.

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JordanStout
07/01/22 8:18:03 AM
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GS4Life posted...
Better than
Freeza

Sorry, but hes not better than Frieza.

The entire Android saga is basically bogus because there is absolutely ZERO possibility that the androids could be stronger than Super Saiyans and Frieza.

  1. Goku destroyed the Red Ribbon Army as a child. His power level after going to Namek is basically INFINITY times larger especially with the 50x multiplier of Super Saiyan.
  2. Frieza had way more advanced technology and knowledge of science than anyone on Earth including Dr. Gero and Bulmas family.
  3. On top of all this, Dr. Geros knowledge of Gokus power level came from his fight with Vegeta on Earth This means that he was building the Androids with the idea that they would kill Goku when he was basically 10,000 times weaker than he was after Namek.


Summary: Frieza (alien intergalactic slave trader and planetary warlord) was a much better villain than Cell.
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Ilishe
07/01/22 8:24:49 AM
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It's obviously Freeza, though Perfect Cell in Abridged is the best because of sheer charisma.

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JordanStout
07/01/22 8:42:35 AM
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Adding to my point in post #24

JordanStout posted...
Sorry, but hes not better than Frieza.

The entire Android saga is basically bogus because there is absolutely ZERO possibility that the androids could be stronger than Super Saiyans and Frieza.

1. Goku destroyed the Red Ribbon Army as a child. His power level after going to Namek is basically INFINITY times larger especially with the 50x multiplier of Super Saiyan.
2. Frieza had way more advanced technology and knowledge of science than anyone on Earth including Dr. Gero and Bulmas family.
3. On top of all this, Dr. Geros knowledge of Gokus power level came from his fight with Vegeta on Earth This means that he was building the Androids with the idea that they would kill Goku when he was basically 10,000 times weaker than he was after Namek.

Summary: Frieza (alien intergalactic slave trader and planetary warlord) was a much better villain than Cell.

The Android saga would have made MUCH more sense if it came AFTER the Saiyan saga but BEFORE the Frieza saga.

This would mean that:

  1. Everything is the same up to the point where Goku has his beam struggle battle with Vegeta.
  2. Once Vegeta flies off in his spaceship, Bulmas father needs time to study the technology and make the spaceship to go to Namek.
  3. The Z-Warriors have to train for a couple years before they can travel through space to get the new dragon balls to wish back Piccolo who was killed by Nappa.
  4. During this period of training, Future Trunks comes back to warn Goku and the rest of the gang that the Androids are coming.
  5. Goku and Gohan train together for years to fight the androids.
  6. After years of training and preparation, Goku + Gohan are evenly matched or slightly better than the Androids, but then Cell appears, absorbs them and becomes stronger than Goku + Gohan.
  7. Cell games happen, Goku + Gohan use the hyperbolic time chamber to get another year of training together and they end up defeating cell with a true Father / Son Kamehameha wave.
  8. Once Cell is defeated, they travel to Namek to fight Frieza and his army who are even more powerful than the Androids and Cell from Earth.


This would have made A LOT more sense.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
07/01/22 8:53:46 AM
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Cell and Frieza were the two best with Cell being the right final boss.

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Tote_All_
07/01/22 8:57:02 AM
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JordanStout posted...
Adding to my point in post #24

The Android saga would have made MUCH more sense if it came AFTER the Saiyan saga but BEFORE the Frieza saga.

This would mean that:

1. Everything is the same up to the point where Goku has his beam struggle battle with Vegeta.
2. Once Vegeta flies off in his spaceship, Bulmas father needs time to study the technology and make the spaceship to go to Namek.
3. The Z-Warriors have to train for a couple years before they can travel through space to get the new dragon balls to wish back Piccolo who was killed by Nappa.
4. During this period of training, Future Trunks comes back to warn Goku and the rest of the gang that the Androids are coming.
5. Goku and Gohan train together for years to fight the androids.
6. After years of training and preparation, Goku + Gohan are evenly matched or slightly better than the Androids, but then Cell appears, absorbs them and becomes stronger than Goku + Gohan.
7. Cell games happen, Goku + Gohan use the hyperbolic time chamber to get another year of training together and they end up defeating cell with a true Father / Son Kamehameha wave.
8. Once Cell is defeated, they travel to Namek to fight Frieza and his army who are even more powerful than the Androids and Cell from Earth.

This would have made A LOT more sense.

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Brianfellow
07/01/22 9:14:37 AM
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JordanStout posted...
Adding to my point in post #24

The Android saga would have made MUCH more sense if it came AFTER the Saiyan saga but BEFORE the Frieza saga.

This would mean that:

1. Everything is the same up to the point where Goku has his beam struggle battle with Vegeta.
2. Once Vegeta flies off in his spaceship, Bulmas father needs time to study the technology and make the spaceship to go to Namek.
3. The Z-Warriors have to train for a couple years before they can travel through space to get the new dragon balls to wish back Piccolo who was killed by Nappa.
4. During this period of training, Future Trunks comes back to warn Goku and the rest of the gang that the Androids are coming.
5. Goku and Gohan train together for years to fight the androids.
6. After years of training and preparation, Goku + Gohan are evenly matched or slightly better than the Androids, but then Cell appears, absorbs them and becomes stronger than Goku + Gohan.
7. Cell games happen, Goku + Gohan use the hyperbolic time chamber to get another year of training together and they end up defeating cell with a true Father / Son Kamehameha wave.
8. Once Cell is defeated, they travel to Namek to fight Frieza and his army who are even more powerful than the Androids and Cell from Earth.

This would have made A LOT more sense.
Would anyone have gone super saiyan during this time? Or would that have still been reserved for frieza?
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Veggeta X
07/01/22 9:15:15 AM
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Cell sounds like Plankton LOL. Ain't no way he can be the best villain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd5YgpEqUYY&t=1s

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JordanStout
07/01/22 10:01:43 AM
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Brianfellow posted...
Would anyone have gone super saiyan during this time? Or would that have still been reserved for frieza?
i would like to believe that Goku pretty much curb stomps everyone and maybe goes Super Saiyan when Frieza kills Gohan.
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TheOnionKnight
07/01/22 10:17:44 AM
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I liked Perfect Cell the most when I watched DBZ as a kid, but I watched it all out of order and missed tons of episodes and huge chunks of the story since I had to catch the episodes whenever they aired on TV. If I'd seen it from start to finish and been able to experience the build-ups for the different arcs, it would've probably felt pretty different.

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charey
07/01/22 10:27:57 AM
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JordanStout posted...
Adding to my point in post #24

The Android saga would have made MUCH more sense if it came AFTER the Saiyan saga but BEFORE the Frieza saga.

This would mean that:

1. Everything is the same up to the point where Goku has his beam struggle battle with Vegeta.
2. Once Vegeta flies off in his spaceship, Bulmas father needs time to study the technology and make the spaceship to go to Namek.
3. The Z-Warriors have to train for a couple years before they can travel through space to get the new dragon balls to wish back Piccolo who was killed by Nappa.
4. During this period of training, Future Trunks comes back to warn Goku and the rest of the gang that the Androids are coming.
Where died Trunks come from in this scenario? Did he stop by Bulmas place on the way to space?

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JordanStout
07/01/22 10:30:52 AM
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charey posted...
Where died Trunks come from in this scenario? Did he stop by Bulmas place on the way to space?

Z-warriors are still on Earth in this scenario. They need to wait a few years for Bulmas father to develop spaceship technology.
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Seaman_Prime
07/01/22 11:17:48 AM
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Frieza will always be my favorite but Cell has the goat theme song
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