Poll of the Day > Man, Obi-Wan Kenobi is bad

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papercup 06/26/22 9:46:03 AM #1:	Disney doesn't understand Star Wars. :\| --- Nintendo Network ID: papercups 3DS FC: 4124 5916 9925 <cite>papercup posted [p:966119434] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>Disney doesn't understand Star Wars. :\| </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bligh_with_no_T 06/26/22 9:52:21 AM #2:	So much talent and effort goes into Disney Star Wars and it ends up disappointing anyway. McGregor was great. The little girl was shockingly good. And then the entire show is just so bland and uninteresting. And weirdly lazy at times. How many fucking times do we need to watch some no name background character "dramatically" sacrifice themselves in a Disney Star Wars property. It never used to happen and now it's every fucking show/film. They got high off Rogue One or something. Unironically excited for Johnson's new trilogy. Say what you will about TLJ, he obviously has ideas. If he's in charge of an entire cohesive trilogy I'm optimistic assuming they don't crush his balls in a focus group. <cite>Bligh_with_no_T posted [p:966119530] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>So much talent and effort goes into Disney Star Wars and it ends up disappointing anyway. McGregor was great. The little girl was shockingly good. And then the entire show is just so bland and uninteresting. And weirdly lazy at times. How many fucking times do we need to watch some no name background character "dramatically" sacrifice themselves in a Disney Star Wars property. It never used to happen and now it's every fucking show/film. They got high off Rogue One or something. Unironically excited for Johnson's new trilogy. Say what you will about TLJ, he obviously has ideas. If he's in charge of an entire cohesive trilogy I'm optimistic assuming they don't crush his balls in a focus group. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 06/26/22 10:08:50 AM #3:	Bligh_with_no_T posted... So much talent and effort goes into Disney Star Wars and it ends up disappointing anyway. McGregor was great. The little girl was shockingly good. And then the entire show is just so bland and uninteresting. And weirdly lazy at times. How many fucking times do we need to watch some no name background character "dramatically" sacrifice themselves in a Disney Star Wars property. It never used to happen and now it's every fucking show/film. They got high off Rogue One or something. Unironically excited for Johnson's new trilogy. Say what you will about TLJ, he obviously has ideas. If he's in charge of an entire cohesive trilogy I'm optimistic assuming they don't crush his balls in a focus group. He has awful ideas like the ~~lightspeed ramming~~ --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:966119762] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>Bligh_with_no_T posted...</cite> <quote>So much talent and effort goes into Disney Star Wars and it ends up disappointing anyway. McGregor was great. The little girl was shockingly good. And then the entire show is just so bland and uninteresting. And weirdly lazy at times. How many fucking times do we need to watch some no name background character "dramatically" sacrifice themselves in a Disney Star Wars property. It never used to happen and now it's every fucking show/film. They got high off Rogue One or something. Unironically excited for Johnson's new trilogy. Say what you will about TLJ, he obviously has ideas. If he's in charge of an entire cohesive trilogy I'm optimistic assuming they don't crush his balls in a focus group. </quote> He has awful ideas like the lightspeed ramming</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66 06/26/22 10:15:57 AM #4:	https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2022/06/24/finalized --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted [p:966119871] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2022/06/24/finalized </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KodyKeir 06/26/22 10:16:43 AM #5:	It had some decent moments, but the big problem with it was choosing Vader as the antagonist instead of sticking to the original concept from the book where it's Maul that's the main antagonist. Yeah, okay, everyone knows who Vader is and they want to sell them toys, but it would have been a better story if they left Vader out of the story; they just don't want to pay any of the EU authors for the work they did in building the larger universe that was entirely retconned when Disney bought the franchise. Bligh_with_no_T posted... Unironically excited for Johnson's new trilogy. Say what you will about TLJ, he obviously has ideas. If he's in charge of an entire cohesive trilogy I'm optimistic assuming they don't crush his balls in a focus group. I worry that they will sack him after part one and pull the same shit they did with the episodes VII - IX, no cohesion whatsoever. --- Why didn't you DODGE‽‽‽ Quoting me will trigger the profanity filter, Not Joking. I've been Scunthorped! Consider yourself warned. <cite>KodyKeir posted [p:966119885] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>It had some decent moments, but the big problem with it was choosing Vader as the antagonist instead of sticking to the original concept from the book where it's Maul that's the main antagonist. Yeah, okay, everyone knows who Vader is and they want to sell them toys, but it would have been a better story if they left Vader out of the story; they just don't want to pay any of the EU authors for the work they did in building the larger universe that was entirely retconned when Disney bought the franchise. Bligh_with_no_T posted... </cite> <quote> Unironically excited for Johnson's new trilogy. Say what you will about TLJ, he obviously has ideas. If he's in charge of an entire cohesive trilogy I'm optimistic assuming they don't crush his balls in a focus group.</quote> I worry that they will sack him after part one and pull the same shit they did with the episodes VII - IX, no cohesion whatsoever. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bligh_with_no_T 06/26/22 10:25:25 AM #6:	Revelation34 posted... He has awful ideas like the ~~lightspeed ramming~~ As much as this sucks, Lightspeed shit is actually a Disney trend. I wouldn't be surprised if it's pushed on the executive level. The Force Awakens features a hyperspace jump onto a planet, and blowing up planets across hyperspace. Rise of Skywalker has Lightspeed skipping. Rebels features numerous instances of hyperspace jumps through objects. There are numerous instances in Disney of hyperspace tracking or nullifying hyperspace. I think there was a big shift in how hyperspace works since Disney acquired SW and I don't really like it. It was a fairly limited and extremely powerful tool that was used to create suspense. Now it's just a magic whatever that does whatever it needs to for the plot. If you told me Palpatine returned by firing himself through time using hyperspace, I'd believe you. <cite>Bligh_with_no_T posted [p:966120032] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite> <quote>He has awful ideas like the lightspeed ramming</quote>As much as this sucks, Lightspeed shit is actually a Disney trend. I wouldn't be surprised if it's pushed on the executive level. The Force Awakens features a hyperspace jump onto a planet, and blowing up planets across hyperspace. Rise of Skywalker has Lightspeed skipping. Rebels features numerous instances of hyperspace jumps through objects. There are numerous instances in Disney of hyperspace tracking or nullifying hyperspace. I think there was a big shift in how hyperspace works since Disney acquired SW and I don't really like it. It was a fairly limited and extremely powerful tool that was used to create suspense. Now it's just a magic whatever that does whatever it needs to for the plot. If you told me Palpatine returned by firing himself through time using hyperspace, I'd believe you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Far-Queue 06/26/22 10:30:31 AM #7:	Bad like the Power Glove is bad, or bad like when I burn the roof of my mouth on scalding hot pizza cheese bad --- What's better than roses on your piano? Tulips on your organ. Decimating fragile male egos since 2022. Egos decimated to date: 5 <cite>Far-Queue posted [p:966120125] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>Bad like the Power Glove is bad, or bad like when I burn the roof of my mouth on scalding hot pizza cheese bad </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KodyKeir 06/26/22 10:33:55 AM #8:	Bligh_with_no_T posted... nullifying hyperspace Gravity well interdiction was something that was used in the books, with hyperspace capable ships having safety controls that would shut down a hyperspace jump in the presence of a gravity well, and Star Destroyers (especially Super Star Destroyers) had artificial gravity wells that were specifically meant to drop ships out of hyperspace. The moments in the movies looked cool but in the back of my head I knew it was really, really wrong. Bligh_with_no_T posted... I think there was a big shift in how hyperspace works since Disney acquired SW and I don't really like it. --- Why didn't you DODGE‽‽‽ Quoting me will trigger the profanity filter, Not Joking. I've been Scunthorped! Consider yourself warned. <cite>KodyKeir posted [p:966120190] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>Bligh_with_no_T posted... </cite> <quote>nullifying hyperspace</quote> Gravity well interdiction was something that was used in the books, with hyperspace capable ships having safety controls that would shut down a hyperspace jump in the presence of a gravity well, and Star Destroyers (especially Super Star Destroyers) had artificial gravity wells that were specifically meant to drop ships out of hyperspace. The moments in the movies looked cool but in the back of my head I knew it was really, really wrong. Bligh_with_no_T posted... </cite> <quote>I think there was a big shift in how hyperspace works since Disney acquired SW and I don't really like it.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
papercup 06/26/22 10:43:35 AM #9:	Far-Queue posted... Bad like the Power Glove is bad, or bad like when I burn the roof of my mouth on scalding hot pizza cheese bad Bad as in Star Wars has always been a vehicle to sell toys, but Disney only cares about selling the toys, they could not give two shits about the actual show. --- Nintendo Network ID: papercups 3DS FC: 4124 5916 9925 <cite>papercup posted [p:966120375] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>Far-Queue posted... </cite> <quote>Bad like the Power Glove is bad, or bad like when I burn the roof of my mouth on scalding hot pizza cheese bad</quote> Bad as in Star Wars has always been a vehicle to sell toys, but Disney only cares about selling the toys, they could not give two shits about the actual show. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
faramir77 06/26/22 10:44:20 AM #10:	I loved the Obiwan series. I'm conflicted on ~~having Obiwan meet and fight Vader before A New Hope~~ but it honestly built up more than it ruined. --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiCtAUrZbUk -- Defeating the Running Man of Ocarina of Time in a race since 01/17/2009. -- <cite>faramir77 posted [p:966120388] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>I loved the Obiwan series. I'm conflicted on having Obiwan meet and fight Vader before A New Hope but it honestly built up more than it ruined. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Far-Queue 06/26/22 10:45:40 AM #11:	Oh so like the Power Glove, cool Can't wait to see it --- What's better than roses on your piano? Tulips on your organ. Decimating fragile male egos since 2022. Egos decimated to date: 5 <cite>Far-Queue posted [p:966120416] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>Oh so like the Power Glove, cool Can't wait to see it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 06/26/22 11:25:43 AM #12:	Metalsonic66 posted... https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2022/06/24/finalized The guys at Penny Arcade like a lot of shit, though. They're a lot more forgiving of stuff that other people dislike. Mike generally just likes things that look pretty. And Jerry just likes things that are high concept even if the execution isn't done as well. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:966121226] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote><cite>Metalsonic66 posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2022/06/24/finalized</quote> The guys at Penny Arcade like a lot of shit, though. They're a lot more forgiving of stuff that other people dislike. Mike generally just likes things that look pretty. And Jerry just likes things that are high concept even if the execution isn't done as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bligh_with_no_T 06/26/22 11:52:38 AM #13:	KodyKeir posted... Gravity well interdiction was something that was used in the books, with hyperspace capable ships having safety controls that would shut down a hyperspace jump in the presence of a gravity well, and Star Destroyers (especially Super Star Destroyers) had artificial gravity wells that were specifically meant to drop ships out of hyperspace. I've probably been reading Star Wars books since before you were born bud. ~~it mostly sucked there too~~ It's absolute galaxy brain shit when people group Legends material with the GL films. They couldn't be more different. They're more different than Disney vs GL. <cite>Bligh_with_no_T posted [p:966121791] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>KodyKeir posted... </cite> <quote>Gravity well interdiction was something that was used in the books, with hyperspace capable ships having safety controls that would shut down a hyperspace jump in the presence of a gravity well, and Star Destroyers (especially Super Star Destroyers) had artificial gravity wells that were specifically meant to drop ships out of hyperspace.</quote>I've probably been reading Star Wars books since before you were born bud. it mostly sucked there too It's absolute galaxy brain shit when people group Legends material with the GL films. They couldn't be more different. They're more different than Disney vs GL. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 06/26/22 12:01:06 PM #14:	Bligh_with_no_T posted... Unironically excited for Johnson's new trilogy. Say what you will about TLJ, he obviously has ideas. Star Wars doesn't need ideas like his tbh. Luke should be a force God paragon and everyone knows it. He also brought in garbage characters, pointless side quests and fucked up the force with Leia ~~somehow surviving the void of space, posthumously using the force to bring her back to the ship, and resurrecting herself~~ --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:966121980] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>Bligh_with_no_T posted... </cite> <quote>Unironically excited for Johnson's new trilogy. Say what you will about TLJ, he obviously has ideas.</quote>Star Wars doesn't need ideas like his tbh. Luke should be a force God paragon and everyone knows it. He also brought in garbage characters, pointless side quests and fucked up the force with Leia somehow surviving the void of space, posthumously using the force to bring her back to the ship, and resurrecting herself </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bligh_with_no_T 06/26/22 12:01:55 PM #15:	Muscles posted... Luke should be a force God paragon and everyone knows it. I want to believe this is a joke post but unfortunately I know better. <cite>Bligh_with_no_T posted [p:966121998] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted... </cite> <quote>Luke should be a force God paragon and everyone knows it.</quote>I want to believe this is a joke post but unfortunately I know better. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 06/26/22 12:08:41 PM #16:	Bligh_with_no_T posted... I want to believe this is a joke post but unfortunately I know better. What's wrong with that? He's more or less the main character of the Star Wars franchise, one of the most powerful force users ever (arguably the most powerful, at worst he's like 2nd to his dad), and the stereotypical hero. --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:966122138] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>Bligh_with_no_T posted... </cite> <quote>I want to believe this is a joke post but unfortunately I know better.</quote>What's wrong with that? He's more or less the main character of the Star Wars franchise, one of the most powerful force users ever (arguably the most powerful, at worst he's like 2nd to his dad), and the stereotypical hero. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bligh_with_no_T 06/26/22 12:18:44 PM #17:	Because none of the characters are force gods and you can only push the power level so high before it starts feeling like a parody. Jedi are far closer to Batman than Superman, and closer to Indiana Jones than either. Star Wars is about action heroes. Star Wars should also be a little bit more introspective and thoughtful than it's contemporaries. Luke's defining character moment is when he chooses not to fight, instead having faith that they'll all die on the Death Star and making peace with that. He doesn't force lightning Palpatine off a cliff while shouting "I am all the Jedi" ~~fuck that's bad~~ And finally because new films should focus on new characters rather than making them fight for time with the original cast. Eventually the boomers are gonna die and Disney will need to make new stories that don't rely on nostalgia for a near 50 year old trilogy. <cite>Bligh_with_no_T posted [p:966122381] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>Because none of the characters are force gods and you can only push the power level so high before it starts feeling like a parody. Jedi are far closer to Batman than Superman, and closer to Indiana Jones than either. Star Wars is about action heroes. Star Wars should also be a little bit more introspective and thoughtful than it's contemporaries. Luke's defining character moment is when he chooses not to fight, instead having faith that they'll all die on the Death Star and making peace with that. He doesn't force lightning Palpatine off a cliff while shouting "I am all the Jedi" fuck that's bad And finally because new films should focus on new characters rather than making them fight for time with the original cast. Eventually the boomers are gonna die and Disney will need to make new stories that don't rely on nostalgia for a near 50 year old trilogy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 06/26/22 12:47:33 PM #18:	Bligh_with_no_T posted... It's absolute galaxy brain shit when people group Legends material with the GL films. They couldn't be more different. They're more different than Disney vs GL. I said years ago that a major problem with the EU was that the writers seemed to have a fundamental misunderstanding of what Star Wars actually WAS. The original trilogy films were basically fantasy movies that happened to be set in space. They weren't really sci-fi (sci-fi kind of requires other elements than just "set in space"). But most of the EU books were blatantly written with a sci-fi aesthetic, which made them very different tonally from the films. Basically, if you're writing Star Wars like Star Trek, you're doing it wrong. What you should be doing is writing Star Wars like Lord of the Rings (in space). Granted, the EU had a lot of other problems (which is why I wasn't sad to see it go when Disney bought the franchise). Outside of the Zahn books most of them were kind of genre trash crap. But Disney fumbled the opportunity to replace it with something better by just shitting out something even worse. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:966123025] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bligh_with_no_T posted...</cite> <quote>It's absolute galaxy brain shit when people group Legends material with the GL films. They couldn't be more different. They're more different than Disney vs GL.</quote> I said years ago that a major problem with the EU was that the writers seemed to have a fundamental misunderstanding of what Star Wars actually WAS. The original trilogy films were basically fantasy movies that happened to be set in space. They weren't really sci-fi (sci-fi kind of requires other elements than just "set in space"). But most of the EU books were blatantly written with a sci-fi aesthetic, which made them very different tonally from the films. Basically, if you're writing Star Wars like Star Trek, you're doing it wrong. What you should be doing is writing Star Wars like Lord of the Rings (in space). Granted, the EU had a lot of other problems (which is why I wasn't sad to see it go when Disney bought the franchise). Outside of the Zahn books most of them were kind of genre trash crap. But Disney fumbled the opportunity to replace it with something better by just shitting out something even worse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 06/26/22 1:11:38 PM #19:	Bligh_with_no_T posted... Because none of the characters are force gods and you can only push the power level so high before it starts feeling like a parody. Jedi are far closer to Batman than Superman, and closer to Indiana Jones than either. Star Wars is about action heroes. Star Wars should also be a little bit more introspective and thoughtful than it's contemporaries. Luke's defining character moment is when he chooses not to fight, instead having faith that they'll all die on the Death Star and making peace with that. He doesn't force lightning Palpatine off a cliff while shouting "I am all the Jedi" ~~fuck that's bad~~ And finally because new films should focus on new characters rather than making them fight for time with the original cast. Eventually the boomers are gonna die and Disney will need to make new stories that don't rely on nostalgia for a near 50 year old trilogy. I don't think he should be some all powerful conqueror that goes through life on easy mode converting everyone into worshiping him, he should be super powerful in the force and be more like Qui-Gon as far as his views on the force. I think a good way of utilizing him in the sequel trilogy with that level of power (and not overshadowing the new guys) would be to have him send off his apprentice for whatever the main plot is and intentionally not save the day because his faith in his apprentice and the force, letting the padawan become their own person. --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:966123545] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>Bligh_with_no_T posted... </cite> <quote>Because none of the characters are force gods and you can only push the power level so high before it starts feeling like a parody. Jedi are far closer to Batman than Superman, and closer to Indiana Jones than either. Star Wars is about action heroes. Star Wars should also be a little bit more introspective and thoughtful than it's contemporaries. Luke's defining character moment is when he chooses not to fight, instead having faith that they'll all die on the Death Star and making peace with that. He doesn't force lightning Palpatine off a cliff while shouting "I am all the Jedi" fuck that's bad And finally because new films should focus on new characters rather than making them fight for time with the original cast. Eventually the boomers are gonna die and Disney will need to make new stories that don't rely on nostalgia for a near 50 year old trilogy.</quote>I don't think he should be some all powerful conqueror that goes through life on easy mode converting everyone into worshiping him, he should be super powerful in the force and be more like Qui-Gon as far as his views on the force. I think a good way of utilizing him in the sequel trilogy with that level of power (and not overshadowing the new guys) would be to have him send off his apprentice for whatever the main plot is and intentionally not save the day because his faith in his apprentice and the force, letting the padawan become their own person. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66 06/26/22 1:26:51 PM #20:	ParanoidObsessive posted... The guys at Penny Arcade like a lot of shit, though. They're a lot more forgiving of stuff that other people dislike. They're really negative about things people like too --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted [p:966123870] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>ParanoidObsessive posted... </cite> <quote>The guys at Penny Arcade like a lot of shit, though. They're a lot more forgiving of stuff that other people dislike.</quote>They're really negative about things people like too </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JixHedgehog 06/26/22 3:27:50 PM #21:	Havent watched it yet but https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/6/3/AALiV_AADYqn.jpg Gotta go with the audience score.. because https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/6/4/AALiV_AADYqo.jpg critics totally missed the mark --- *America!* Weak on acknowledging assassination attempts on Conservative Justices <cite>JixHedgehog posted [p:966126342] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>Havent watched it yet but https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/6/3/AALiV_AADYqn.jpg Gotta go with the audience score.. because https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/6/4/AALiV_AADYqo.jpg critics totally missed the mark </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 06/26/22 3:34:07 PM #22:	nice, I like bad stuff --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:966126451] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>nice, I like bad stuff </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VampireCoyote 06/26/22 3:47:10 PM #23:	Nobody likes anything --- She/her <cite>VampireCoyote posted [p:966126716] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>Nobody likes anything </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Count_Drachma 06/26/22 3:56:12 PM #24:	papercup posted... Disney doesn't understand Star Wars. :\| To be fair, neither did Lucas by the end. Bligh_with_no_T posted... Unironically excited for Johnson's new trilogy. Say what you will about TLJ, he obviously has ideas. If he's in charge of an entire cohesive trilogy I'm optimistic assuming they don't crush his balls in a focus group. If only any of his ideas were good... ParanoidObsessive posted... The original trilogy films were basically fantasy movies that happened to be set in space. They weren't really sci-fi (sci-fi kind of requires other elements than just "set in space"). But most of the EU books were blatantly written with a sci-fi aesthetic, which made them very different tonally from the films. They had plenty that fit that bill. If there was one issue with the EU, I'd say it was more a lack of consistency. JixHedgehog posted... Havent watched it yet but https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/6/3/AALiV_AADYqn.jpg Gotta go with the audience score.. because https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/6/4/AALiV_AADYqo.jpg critics totally missed the mark lol @ critics rating TLJ that highly. Collective insanity --- Everybody's got a price / Everybody's got to pay / Because the Million Drachma Man / Always gets his way. AhahahahMMH <cite>Count_Drachma posted [p:966126901] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>papercup posted... </cite> <quote>Disney doesn't understand Star Wars. :\|</quote> To be fair, neither did Lucas by the end. Bligh_with_no_T posted... </cite> <quote>Unironically excited for Johnson's new trilogy. Say what you will about TLJ, he obviously has ideas. If he's in charge of an entire cohesive trilogy I'm optimistic assuming they don't crush his balls in a focus group.</quote> If only any of his ideas were good... ParanoidObsessive posted... </cite> <quote>The original trilogy films were basically fantasy movies that happened to be set in space. They weren't really sci-fi (sci-fi kind of requires other elements than just "set in space"). But most of the EU books were blatantly written with a sci-fi aesthetic, which made them very different tonally from the films.</quote> They had plenty that fit that bill. If there was one issue with the EU, I'd say it was more a lack of consistency. JixHedgehog posted... </cite> <quote>Havent watched it yet but https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/6/3/AALiV_AADYqn.jpg Gotta go with the audience score.. because https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/6/4/AALiV_AADYqo.jpg critics totally missed the mark</quote> lol @ critics rating TLJ that highly. Collective insanity </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Link_of_time 06/26/22 5:08:58 PM #25:	I liked it, but it has a lot of flaws. It's a lot better than Book of Boba Fett, but also feels like a clone wars/rebels plot. My biggest issue with it was the leaps of logic(plot-holes I guess). A lot of "how did they know about that?" or "how do they not see that?" was said while watching. <cite>Link_of_time posted [p:966128442] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>I liked it, but it has a lot of flaws. It's a lot better than Book of Boba Fett, but also feels like a clone wars/rebels plot. My biggest issue with it was the leaps of logic(plot-holes I guess). A lot of "how did they know about that?" or "how do they not see that?" was said while watching. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 06/26/22 5:28:47 PM #26:	Bligh_with_no_T posted... How many f*ing times do we need to watch some no name background character "dramatically" sacrifice themselves in a Disney Star Wars property. It never used to happen and now it's every fing show/film. They got high off Rogue One or something. I agree. If anything, I think the fetishization of self-sacrifice/suffering is one of the biggest problems in America --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:966128898] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>Bligh_with_no_T posted... </cite> <quote>How many fing times do we need to watch some no name background character "dramatically" sacrifice themselves in a Disney Star Wars property. It never used to happen and now it's every f*ing show/film. They got high off Rogue One or something.</quote> I agree. If anything, I think the fetishization of self-sacrifice/suffering is one of the biggest problems in America </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 06/26/22 6:59:12 PM #27:	JixHedgehog posted... critics totally missed the mark Critics always miss the mark, because most of them are paid off these days. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:966130707] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote><cite>JixHedgehog posted...</cite> <quote>critics totally missed the mark</quote> Critics always miss the mark, because most of them are paid off these days.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gaawa_chan 06/26/22 7:27:10 PM #28:	Bligh_with_no_T posted... How many fucking times do we need to watch some no name background character "dramatically" sacrifice themselves in a Disney Star Wars property. It never used to happen and now it's every fucking show/film. They got high off Rogue One or something. I'd say that this is an inherent problem with most prequels in general, but it also was a problem in the sequel movies from what I've heard (only watched the first one), so...???? (and oddly, it wasn't that much of an issue in SW 1-3, which I thought made most of its character deaths pretty meaningful even if they were poorly executed, ugh Padme). Unironically excited for Johnson's new trilogy. Say what you will about TLJ, he obviously has ideas. If he's in charge of an entire cohesive trilogy I'm optimistic assuming they don't crush his balls in a focus group. They shouldn't have made the sequels if they didn't have a clear vision for the narrative. Like... say what you will about SW 1-3 but they had a cohesive story that made sense and actually went somewhere from start to finish. I never thought that was something that needed to be lauded in a story before... oof... --- Hi <cite>Gaawa_chan posted [p:966131223] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>Bligh_with_no_T posted... </cite> <quote>How many fucking times do we need to watch some no name background character "dramatically" sacrifice themselves in a Disney Star Wars property. It never used to happen and now it's every fucking show/film. They got high off Rogue One or something. </quote> I'd say that this is an inherent problem with most prequels in general, but it also was a problem in the sequel movies from what I've heard (only watched the first one), so...???? (and oddly, it wasn't that much of an issue in SW 1-3, which I thought made most of its character deaths pretty meaningful even if they were poorly executed, ugh Padme). <quote>Unironically excited for Johnson's new trilogy. Say what you will about TLJ, he obviously has ideas. If he's in charge of an entire cohesive trilogy I'm optimistic assuming they don't crush his balls in a focus group.</quote>They shouldn't have made the sequels if they didn't have a clear vision for the narrative. Like... say what you will about SW 1-3 but they had a cohesive story that made sense and actually went somewhere from start to finish. I never thought that was something that needed to be lauded in a story before... oof... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
papercup 06/27/22 12:17:05 AM #29:	Just finished episode 6. :\| well that sure was a Star War. --- Nintendo Network ID: papercups 3DS FC: 4124 5916 9925 <cite>papercup posted [p:966137241] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>Just finished episode 6. :\| well that sure was a Star War. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirtBasedSoap 06/27/22 12:18:31 AM #30:	The only word that comes to mind is contrived. I loved seeing these dudes as Anakin and Obi-wan again but it overall isnt a good story that needed to be told --- im gay <cite>DirtBasedSoap posted [p:966137256] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>The only word that comes to mind is contrived. I loved seeing these dudes as Anakin and Obi-wan again but it overall isnt a good story that needed to be told </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
papercup 06/27/22 12:25:06 AM #31:	Yeah prequels are always tricky because you already know going in that certain things cant happen, like characters dying and what have you. So theres already deflated tension. But also there was a ton of unnecessary fluff thrown in there that the end result is its boring to watch. And if theres one thing Star Wars shouldnt be, its boring. It would be way more interesting if they told this story with new characters, in a completely different era of the Star Wars universe. --- Nintendo Network ID: papercups 3DS FC: 4124 5916 9925 <cite>papercup posted [p:966137374] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>Yeah prequels are always tricky because you already know going in that certain things cant happen, like characters dying and what have you. So theres already deflated tension. But also there was a ton of unnecessary fluff thrown in there that the end result is its boring to watch. And if theres one thing Star Wars shouldnt be, its boring. It would be way more interesting if they told this story with new characters, in a completely different era of the Star Wars universe. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DirtBasedSoap 06/27/22 12:29:14 AM #32:	fuck the prequel bs argument. better call Saul is the best show Ive ever seen --- im gay <cite>DirtBasedSoap posted [p:966137446] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>fuck the prequel bs argument. better call Saul is the best show Ive ever seen </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KodyKeir 06/27/22 6:52:24 AM #33:	Bligh_with_no_T posted... I've probably been reading Star Wars books since before you were born bud. You read Lando Calrissian and the Starcave of ThonBoka? --- Why didn't you DODGE‽‽‽ Quoting me will trigger the profanity filter, Not Joking. I've been Scunthorped! Consider yourself warned. <cite>KodyKeir posted [p:966141154] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>Bligh_with_no_T posted... </cite> <quote>I've probably been reading Star Wars books since before you were born bud.</quote> You read Lando Calrissian and the Starcave of ThonBoka? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 06/27/22 7:07:41 AM #34:	I'd rather watch my 100th garbage ass anime about an OP guy in an Isekai then watch Star wars Disney --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:966141283] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>I'd rather watch my 100th garbage ass anime about an OP guy in an Isekai then watch Star wars Disney </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SomeUsername529 06/27/22 8:00:43 AM #35:	It always blows my mind seeing actual people out in the wild that don't understand how Rotten Tomatoes works but still getting mad about it. <cite>SomeUsername529 posted [p:966141808] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>It always blows my mind seeing actual people out in the wild that don't understand how Rotten Tomatoes works but still getting mad about it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 06/27/22 9:57:01 AM #36:	SomeUsername529 posted... It always blows my mind seeing actual people out in the wild that don't understand how Rotten Tomatoes works but still getting mad about it. It works by random people reviewing movies. It should never be taken serious since none of them are actual critics. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:966143595] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>SomeUsername529 posted...</cite> <quote>It always blows my mind seeing actual people out in the wild that don't understand how Rotten Tomatoes works but still getting mad about it. </quote> It works by random people reviewing movies. It should never be taken serious since none of them are actual critics.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 06/27/22 10:11:16 AM #37:	DirtBasedSoap posted... fuck the prequel bs argument. It's still valid. Basically, when you are operating under the handicap of being a prequel (meaning the audience already knows how your story has to end), you're basically forced to be better at writing the journey to get to that destination. A normal story can rely on a strong ending to elevate the work - a prequel needs to be more of a cohesive work. A prequel film/series can be good - if it's written by a good writer putting in a solid effort. The weakness of most Star Wars prequel content is the fact that the writing isn't strong enough to overcome the inherent drawback. And is often done in such a way that it actually weakens the original content. As an example, almost everything involving Anakin makes Vader look worse by comparison. Original trilogy Vader was an intimidating badass who is both scary and cool. Anakin is kind of a chump - and that recolors our perception of Vader. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:966143881] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote><cite>DirtBasedSoap posted...</cite> <quote>fuck the prequel bs argument.</quote> It's still valid. Basically, when you are operating under the handicap of being a prequel (meaning the audience already knows how your story has to end), you're basically forced to be better at writing the journey to get to that destination. A normal story can rely on a strong ending to elevate the work - a prequel needs to be more of a cohesive work. A prequel film/series can be good - if it's written by a good writer putting in a solid effort. The weakness of most Star Wars prequel content is the fact that the writing isn't strong enough to overcome the inherent drawback. And is often done in such a way that it actually weakens the original content. As an example, almost everything involving Anakin makes Vader look worse by comparison. Original trilogy Vader was an intimidating badass who is both scary and cool. Anakin is kind of a chump - and that recolors our perception of Vader.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 06/27/22 11:38:11 PM #38:	Revelation34 posted... It works by random people reviewing movies. It should never be taken serious since none of them are actual critics. critics reviews don't mean shit either --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:966163652] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote> It works by random people reviewing movies. It should never be taken serious since none of them are actual critics.</quote> critics reviews don't mean shit either</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 06/28/22 12:00:17 AM #39:	Krazy_Kirby posted... critics reviews don't mean shit either They do a lot more than regular people. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:966163998] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>Krazy_Kirby posted...</cite> <quote> critics reviews don't mean shit either</quote> They do a lot more than regular people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 06/28/22 12:02:19 AM #40:	Revelation34 posted... They do a lot more than regular people. critics are regular people. worse, they often get paid to say good things --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:966164033] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote> They do a lot more than regular people.</quote> critics are regular people. worse, they often get paid to say good things</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
papercup 06/29/22 12:44:11 AM #41:	Im watching Revenge of the Sith. This movie is terrible, but I cant say it isnt entertaining. Which is more than I can say for Obi-Wan Kenobi. --- Nintendo Network ID: papercups 3DS FC: 4124 5916 9925 <cite>papercup posted [p:966193443] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>Im watching Revenge of the Sith. This movie is terrible, but I cant say it isnt entertaining. Which is more than I can say for Obi-Wan Kenobi. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 06/29/22 1:20:07 AM #42:	papercup posted... Im watching Revenge of the Sith. This movie is terrible, but I cant say it isnt entertaining. Which is more than I can say for Obi-Wan Kenobi. The prequels (minus Phantom Menance) are all pretty bad but at least they feel like Star Wars Movies --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:966193989] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>papercup posted... </cite> <quote>Im watching Revenge of the Sith. This movie is terrible, but I cant say it isnt entertaining. Which is more than I can say for Obi-Wan Kenobi.</quote>The prequels (minus Phantom Menance) are all pretty bad but at least they feel like Star Wars Movies </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KodyKeir 06/29/22 4:37:35 AM #43:	I think the best and worst thing that can be said about it, is that it has introduced a talented young actress to a lifetime role. --- Why didn't you DODGE‽‽‽ Quoting me will trigger the profanity filter, Not Joking. I've been Scunthorped! Consider yourself warned. <cite>KodyKeir posted [p:966196060] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>I think the best and worst thing that can be said about it, is that it has introduced a talented young actress to a lifetime role. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrozenBananas 06/29/22 5:02:45 AM #44:	papercup posted... Im watching Revenge of the Sith. This movie is terrible, but I cant say it isnt entertaining. Which is more than I can say for Obi-Wan Kenobi. its the best of the prequels but thats not saying much. Its not very good. What annoys me most is that people act like its the best Star Wars movie ever. --- Big yellow joint big yellow joint I'll meet you down at the big yellow joint <cite>FrozenBananas posted [p:966196300] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>papercup posted... </cite> <quote>Im watching Revenge of the Sith. This movie is terrible, but I cant say it isnt entertaining. Which is more than I can say for Obi-Wan Kenobi.</quote> its the best of the prequels but thats not saying much. Its not very good. What annoys me most is that people act like its the best Star Wars movie ever. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KodyKeir 06/29/22 5:14:26 AM #45:	FrozenBananas posted... What annoys me most is that people act like its the best Star Wars movie ever. What's not to love about a fascist takeover of a democratic republic after decades of careful planning. --- Why didn't you DODGE‽‽‽ Quoting me will trigger the profanity filter, Not Joking. I've been Scunthorped! Consider yourself warned. <cite>KodyKeir posted [p:966196397] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>FrozenBananas posted... </cite> <quote>What annoys me most is that people act like its the best Star Wars movie ever.</quote> What's not to love about a fascist takeover of a democratic republic after decades of careful planning. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kangolcone 06/29/22 7:29:36 AM #46:	papercup posted... Disney doesn't understand Star Wars. :\| Lmfao. Except they are also responsible for Mando which is one of the top three pieces of Star Wars fiction, alongside the clone wars tv series and Empire Strikes Back. People would be better served if we stopped pretending Star Wars is better than it is. The first two movies are great. RotJ is ok, a little cheesy. The PT isnt great. The new trilogy isnt great. The fictional world just isnt that great. Get over it. --- Annoy a Conservative, punch a person who shares Nazi ideals. (Clarification provided exclusively for Revelation34 who was having trouble distinguishing context) <cite>kangolcone posted [p:966197708] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>papercup posted... </cite> <quote>Disney doesn't understand Star Wars. :\|</quote> Lmfao. Except they are also responsible for Mando which is one of the top three pieces of Star Wars fiction, alongside the clone wars tv series and Empire Strikes Back. People would be better served if we stopped pretending Star Wars is better than it is. The first two movies are great. RotJ is ok, a little cheesy. The PT isnt great. The new trilogy isnt great. The fictional world just isnt that great. Get over it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 06/29/22 7:32:55 AM #47:	kangolcone posted... Lmfao. Except they are also responsible for Mando which is one of the top three pieces of Star Wars fiction, alongside the clone wars tv series and Empire Strikes Back. People would be better served if we stopped pretending Star Wars is better than it is. The first two movies are great. RotJ is ok, a little cheesy. The PT isnt great. The new trilogy isnt great. They fictional world just isnt that great. Get over it. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:966197736] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>kangolcone posted...</cite> <quote> Lmfao. Except they are also responsible for Mando which is one of the top three pieces of Star Wars fiction, alongside the clone wars tv series and Empire Strikes Back. People would be better served if we stopped pretending Star Wars is better than it is. The first two movies are great. RotJ is ok, a little cheesy. The PT isnt great. The new trilogy isnt great. They fictional world just isnt that great. Get over it. </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thekingoftown 06/29/22 8:25:25 AM #49:	KodyKeir posted... I think the best and worst thing that can be said about it, is that it has introduced a talented young actress to a lifetime role. Maybe, but look what happened to Jake Lloyd --- I'm so glad The Cheat is not dead <cite>thekingoftown posted [p:966198428] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>KodyKeir posted... </cite> <quote>I think the best and worst thing that can be said about it, is that it has introduced a talented young actress to a lifetime role.</quote> Maybe, but look what happened to Jake Lloyd </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KodyKeir 06/29/22 8:55:36 AM #50:	thekingoftown posted... Maybe, but look what happened to Jake Lloyd Hence why I said both best and worst. --- Why didn't you DODGE‽‽‽ Quoting me will trigger the profanity filter, Not Joking. I've been Scunthorped! Consider yourself warned. <cite>KodyKeir posted [p:966198907] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>thekingoftown posted... </cite> <quote>Maybe, but look what happened to Jake Lloyd</quote> Hence why I said both best and worst. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bligh_with_no_T 06/29/22 9:09:44 AM #51:	kangolcone posted... Lmfao. Except they are also responsible for Mando which is one of the top three pieces of Star Wars fiction, alongside the clone wars tv series and Empire Strikes Back. People would be better served if we stopped pretending Star Wars is better than it is. The first two movies are great. RotJ is ok, a little cheesy. The PT isnt great. The new trilogy isnt great. The fictional world just isnt that great. Get over it. In Mando S2 they went full Disney and it started getting bad, and then BoBF pushed even harder in that direction. not optimistic about future series <cite>Bligh_with_no_T posted [p:966199192] in Man, Obi-W... [t:80071831]...</cite> <quote>kangolcone posted... </cite> <quote>Lmfao. Except they are also responsible for Mando which is one of the top three pieces of Star Wars fiction, alongside the clone wars tv series and Empire Strikes Back. People would be better served if we stopped pretending Star Wars is better than it is. The first two movies are great. RotJ is ok, a little cheesy. The PT isnt great. The new trilogy isnt great. The fictional world just isnt that great. Get over it.</quote>In Mando S2 they went full Disney and it started getting bad, and then BoBF pushed even harder in that direction. not optimistic about future series </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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