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MattcheteGuy
06/23/22 6:49:40 PM
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Heineken14 posted...
I wish all lunatic right wing conspiracy theories were as heavily moderated as their bullshit about election fraud.

it was probably a good idea that you deleted the post when you quoted it tbh

okay wtf if that was really just an nkl

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CableZL
06/23/22 6:49:43 PM
#53:


Rep. Kinzinger's question to Richard Donoghue:
  • Q: When you told the president that you wouldn't pursue baseless claims of fraud, was it because you were worried about your reputation?
  • A: No. Not at all.


Kinzinger: Mr. Clark's name was also mentioned in the White House in late December and early January, as described by a top aide to Mark Meadows, Cassidy Hutchinson.

A video of Cassidy Hutchinson is shown.

Kinzinger's questions to Jeff Rosen:
  • Q: After your call with president Trump on December 24th, you spoke with Mr. Clark on Decmeber 26th about his contact with the president. Can you tell us about that conversation?
  • A: Because I had been quizzical about why his name had come up, I had called him. I tried to explore if he would share if there was something I oughta know. There was some back and forth, and he acknowledged that shortly before Christmas, he had gone to a meeting in the oval office with he president. That of course surprised me, and I asked him how that happened. He was defensive. He said it had been unplanned. That he had been talking to someone he referred to as General Perry, but I believe it's congressman Perry. And that, unbeknownst to him, he was asked to go to a meeting. He didn't know it, but he found himself at the oval office and he was apologetic for that. I said, "Well, you didn't tell me about it, it wasn't unauthorized, and you didn't even tell me after the fact. This is not appropriate." But he was contrite. He said it had been inadvertent. He said it would not happen again, and that if anyone asked him to go to such a meeting, he would notify Rich Donoghue and me.
  • Q: Is there a policy that governs who can have contact throughout the White House?
  • A: Yes. Across many administrations for a long period of time, there is a policy that, with particular regard to criminal investigations, restricts at both the White House and in the DoJ end, those more sensitive issues tot he highest ranks. So, for criminal matters, the policy for a long time has been that only the AG and the deputy AG from the DoJ side can have conversations about criminal matters with the White House. Or, the AG and deputy AG can authorize someone for a specific item. with their permission. The idea is to make sure that the top rung of the DoJ knows about it and is in the thing and can control it and make sure only appropriate things are done.


FFFFFF this is a lot

Rep. Kinzinger's questions to Steven Engel:
  • Q: From your perspective, why is it important to have a policy like what Mr. Rosen just discussed?
  • A: It's critical that the DoJ conducts its criminal investigations free from either the reality or even the appearance of political interference. So people can get in trouble if people at the White House are speaking with people at the DoJ. That's why the purpose of this policy is to keep these communications as infrequent and at the highest levels as possible just to make sure that people who are less careful about it and don't understand these implications, such as Mr. Clark, don't run afoul of those contact policies.


LOL @ everyone dunking on Jeff Clark.

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CableZL
06/23/22 6:50:57 PM
#54:


I gotta take a break. I'll be back to continue in a bit. Still got a while to go, lol

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whitelytning
06/23/22 6:51:41 PM
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Why don't you care that his original opponent had people assassinated?

That isnt an answer to the question.

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CableZL
06/23/22 8:01:32 PM
#56:


Rep. Kinzinger: Pat Cipollone told the select committee that he intervened when he heard Mr. Clark was meeting with the president about legal maters without his knowledge, which was strictly against White House policy. Pat Cippollone and Pat Philbin told Mr. Clark to stand down and he didn't.
  • Pat Cippollone: Former White House Counsel
  • Pat Philbin: Former Deputy White House counsel


Rep. Kinzinger: On the same day, acting AG Rosen told Jeff Clark to stop talking to the White House. Rep. Perry was urging Mark Meadows to elevate Jeff Clark within the DoJ.

Text messages between Rep. Perry and Mark Meadows are shown.

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Kinzinger to Donoghue:
  • Q: Rep. Perry called you the next day on December 27th. Who told him to call you?
  • A: My understanding is the president did. At the outset of the call, the congressman Perry (I believe this is what he said) told me that he was calling at the behest of the president.
  • Q: What did he want to talk about?
  • A: He wanted to talk about Pennsylvania in particular. He gave me some background about why he in particular doesn't trust the FBI, about why the American people don't trust the FBI. and then he went into some allegations specific about Pennsylvania, which included, amongst others, this allegation that the secretary of state had certified more votes than were actually cast.
  • Q: Did you direct the local US attorney's office to investigate that claim?
  • A: Mr. Perry said that he had a good deal of information, that investigations had been done, that there was some forensic type report that would be helpful to me. I didn't know congressman Perry. I had never heard of him before this conversation. I said "Sir, if you've got something that you think is relevant to what the DoJ's mission is, you should feel free to send it to me." And he did. I was en route from New York to Washington and I got it. I looked at it on my iPhone. Obviously, I couldn't read the whole thing in transit like that, but I looked at it to get a feel for what it was and then I forwarded it to the US attorney for the western district of Pennsylvania.
  • Q: Did they get back to you? What did they conclude?
  • A: Scott Brady looked at it. He was the western district of Pennsylvania US attorney. It took him a couple days, but he got back in relatively short order with a pretty clear explanation for why there was no foundation for concern. The secretary of state had not certified more votes than were actually cast. The difference between the 5.25 that was actually certified by the secretary of state and the 5 million that was on a public-facing web site was that the information on the web site was incomplete because four counties had not uploaded their data.
  • Q: No credibility to that?
  • A: There was zero to that.
  • Q: During that call, did Scott Perry mention Mr. Clark, and what did he say about him if so?
  • A: He did. He mentioned Mr. Clark. He said something to the fact of "I think Jeff Clark is great," and that he's the kind of guy who can get in there and do something about this stuff. And this was coming on the heels of the president having mentioned Mr. Clark in the afternoon call earlier that day.


Rep. Kinzinger yields to Rep. Cheney.

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CADE FOSTER
06/23/22 8:04:49 PM
#57:


alot of people need to be in jail including trump and alot of other republicans
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CableZL
06/23/22 8:18:09 PM
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Rep. Cheney to Donoghue:
  • As we discussed earlier, at the center of Mr. Clark's plan to undue president Trump's election loss was a letter.
  • Q: Mr. Donoghue, on December 28th, Mr. Clark emailed you and Mr. Rosen a draft letter that he wanted you to sign and send to Georgia's state officials. You testified that this could have "grave constitutional consequences." Mr. Donoghue, could you tell us what you meant by that?
  • A: I had to read both the email and the attached letter twice to make sure I really understood what he was proposing because it was so extreme to me, I had a hard time getting my head around it initially. But I read it, and I did understand it for what he intended. I had to sit down and sort of compose what I thought was an appropriate response. I actually went next door to the acting AG's office, but he was not there. We were both on the email. I knew we would both have probably a similar reaction. He was not in his office so I returned to my office and I sat down to draft a response because I felt it was very important to give a prompt response rejecting this out of hand. In my response, I explained a number of reasons this is not the DoJ's role to suggest or dictate to state legislatures how they should select their electors. But more importantly, this is not based on fact. This was actually contrary to the facts as developed by our investigations over the last several weeks and months. So I responded to that and to the DoJ to insert itself into the political process this way, I think would have had grave consequences for the country. It may very well have spiraled us into a constitutional crisis and I wanted to make sure he understood the gravity of the situation because he didn't seem to really appreciate it.
  • Q: And what was Mr. Clark's reaction when you sent this email to him?
  • A: He didn't respond directly to the email, but we met shortly after that. After I sent the email, the acting AG returned. I went to his office. He had just read it and he had a very similar reaction to me. He was exasperated and he told me that he had told one of his administrative assistants to get Jeff Clark up here. We want to talk to him face to face about this. So the three of us planned a meeting probably about 1800 that night in the deputy AG's office.
  • Q: And one of the things that you said to Mr. Clark is, "What you are doing is nothing less than the US DoJ meddling in the outcome of a presidential election." And I assume you conveyed that to him as well in your meeting that evening?
  • A: Yes, in those very words. It was a very contentious meeting, but yes that was said amongst other things.
  • Q: Despite this contentious meeting, and your strong reaction to the letter, did Mr. Clark continue to push his concept in the coming days?
  • A: He did, yes. We had subsequent meetings and conversations. The acting AG probably had more contact with him than I did, but between the 28th and the 2nd, we had another in-person meeting. He clearly continued to move down this path. He began calling witnesses and apparently conducting investigations of his own. He got a briefing from ENI(???) about purported foreign intelligence interference. We thought, perhaps once it was explained to him, that there was no basis for that part of his concern, that he would retreat. Instead, he doubled down and said "Well, Ok, so there's no foreign interference. I still think there are enough allegations out there that we should go ahead and send this letter," which shocked me even more than the initial one because you would think after a couple days of looking(?) this, he, like we, would have come to the same conclusion that it was completely unfounded.
  • Q: When you learned that he had been calling witnesses and conducting investigations on his own, did you confront him?
  • A: Yes.
  • Q: And what was his reaction?
  • A: He got very defensive. As I said, there were a series of conversations through that week. I certainly remember specifically the conversation meeting on January 2nd that got even more confrontational, but he was defensive and similar to his earlier reaction when they said this is nothing less than the DoJ meddling in an election, his reaction was "I think a lot of people have meddled in this election." So, he kinda clung to that and then spewed out some of these theories, some of which we've heard from the president. Others were floating around the internet in media. And he kept insisting that the DoJ needed to act and needed to send those letter.


Rep Cheney: The committee has also learned that Mr. Clark was working with another attorney at the DoJ named Ken Klukowski who drafted this letter to Georgia with Mr. Clark. Mr. Klukowski had arrived to the department on December 15th with just 36 days left until the inauguration. He was specifically assigned to work under Jeff Clark. Mr. Klukowski also worked with John Eatman, who we showed you at our hearing last week was one of the primary architects of president Trump's scheme to overturn the election. The Georgia letter that we've been discussing specifically talks about some of Dr. Eastman's theories, including (she reads from the Jeffrey Clark letter):

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Rep. Cheney (continued): But he's also learned that the relationship between Dr. Eastman and Mr. Klukowski persisted after Mr. Klukowski joined the DoJ.

Email recommending that Dr. Eastman and Dr. Klukowski brief vice president Pence and his staff: Other recipients of this email included the chief of staff to congressman Louie Gohmert (R-TX).
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RchHomieQuanChi
06/23/22 8:26:05 PM
#59:


CADE FOSTER posted...
alot of people need to be in jail including trump and alot of other republicans

Practically the entire party belongs in jail at this point, save for a few

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CableZL
06/23/22 8:26:29 PM
#60:


A video deposition of Jeffrey Clark is shown.
  • He claims executive privilege on the 1st question and I don't understand his response to the 2nd question. It was a short one word response.

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CableZL
06/23/22 8:26:53 PM
#61:


1st break happened at this point

This is a lot

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rideshort
06/23/22 8:28:41 PM
#63:


CableZL doing us Justice giving us the play,-by-play. Thanks again.

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thronedfire2
06/23/22 8:36:24 PM
#64:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


they said 125 I think

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CableZL
06/23/22 8:48:04 PM
#66:


Rep. Kinzinger is questioning Steven Engel as to the details of his role as head of the office of legal counsel... not gonna type all that...

  • Q: I want to ask about two things the president asked you and the DoJ to do. The first is reflected in this email on the screen:
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  • Q (cont'd): The president sent a draft lawsuit to be filed by the DoJ in the supreme court. He wanted you, Mr. Rosen and Mr. Cippollone specifically to review it. You and the DoJ opposed filing it.


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  • Q (cont'd): Why was this the DoJ's position?
  • A: I think the memo speaks to this, but this was a draft lawsuit that was apparently prepared by people outside the DoJ. Styled as (???) brought by the US and by the acting solicitor general as an original jurisdiction matter in the Supeme Court. It was a meritless lawsuit that was not something that the DoJ could or would bring. Somebody actually prepared it to be handed to the president and he forwarded it for our review. That memo explains why the DoJ as Mr. Donoghue said earlier, doesn't have any standing to bring such a lawsuit. The lawsuit would have been untimely. The states had already chosen their electors, the electors had been certified, they cast their votes, and they had been sent to Washington, DC. Neither Georgia nor any of the other states on December 28th or whenever this was was in a position to change those votes. Essentially, the election had happened. The only thing that hadn't happen was the formal counting of the votes.


WOOOOORDYYYYYYYYYYYYY

  • A (cont'd): Obviously, the person who drafted this lawsuit didn't really understand, in my view, the law and/or how the Supreme Court works or the DoJ. It's just not something we were gonna do. The acting AG asked me to prepare a memo with talking points so he could explain our reasons when he spoke to the president about this.
  • Q: So would you say it was an unusual request?
  • A: Certainly. For the DoJ to file a lawsuit drafted by outside lawyers was certainly an unusual request.
  • Q: In mid December, did the White House ask AG Barr to consider whether a special counsel could be appointed to look into election fraud issues?
  • A: Yes. I think the president, probably vocal at the time that, he believed that special counsel was something that should be considered to look into election fraud. There is a specific request where the AG sought my legal advice in December.
  • Q: And what was your conclusion?
  • A: This request was whether the AG could appoint a special counsel, a state attorney general, to conduct an investigation. As a legal matter, under federal law, the AG actually has fairly wide discretion to delegate prosecutorial authority, including to state prosecutors which happen to assist the DoJ. Obviously a state AG exercising prosecutorial authority on behalf of the DoJ would be fairly uncommon. When we looke at the issue, what we saw was actually that the state law, the state was Louisiana, that the state law precluded the state AG from accepting any official position on behalf of the US government so that answered the question that it was not legally assailable.
  • Q: During the time at the DoJ, was there ever any basis to appoint a special counsel to investigate president Trump's election fraud claims?
  • A: Neither AG Barr nor acting AG Rosen did appoint a special counsel. You would appoint a special counsel when the DoJ, when there's a basis for an investigation, and the DoJ essentially has a conflict of interest. You'd get someone who is independent outside the department to handle such an investigation. Neither AG Barr nor acting AG Rosen ever believed that that was appropriate or necessary in this case.


Kinzinger: In fact, AG Barr had already told the president that there was no need for this special counsel. He actually stated that publicly, and we'll see that in a video from December 21st.

Video of then AG William Barr saying he doesn't see a reason to appoint a special counsel is shown.

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CableZL
06/23/22 8:49:01 PM
#67:


A tweet of Trump pressuring the DoJ to appoint a special counsel is shown
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It's pretty amazing how they're walking through this step by step.

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CableZL
06/23/22 8:50:29 PM
#68:


Kinzinger: The select committee's investigation revealed that president Trump went as far as to promise the job of special counsel to now-discreted former Trump campaign lawyer Sidney Powell at a late night meeting on December 18th

A video deposition of Sidney Powell is shown where she confirmed this

HOLY SHIT I'M GLAD THIS DIDN'T HAPPEN.

HOLY SHIT

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CableZL
06/23/22 9:04:50 PM
#69:


A video of Richard donoghue describing a meeting at the white house on New Year's eve.
  • The president was much more agitated than he had been in the meeting on the 15th. He discussed a variety of election matters. He did say, "this sounds like the kind of thing that would warrant the appointment of a special counsel." There was a point at which the president said something about, "Why don't you guys seize machines?"


Rep. Kinzinger to Jeff Rosen:
  • Q: The president asked you to seize voting machines from state governemnts. What was your response to that request?
  • A: We had seen nothing improper with regard to the voting machines. I told him that the real experts at that had been the DHS. They had briefed us that they had looked at it and there was nothing wrong with the voting machines. So, that was not something that was appropriate to do.
  • Q: No factual basis to seize machines?
  • A: I don't think there was legal authority, either.


Rep. Kinzinger to Richard Donoghue:
  • Q: Can you explain what the president did after he was told that the DoJ would not seize voting machines?
  • A: The president was very agitated by the acting AG's response and tot he extnet that machines and the technology was being discussed, the acting AG said that the DHS had expertise in machines, and certifying them to make sure that the states were operating them properly. Since DHS had been mentioned, the president yelled out to the secretary, "Get Ken Cuccinelli on the phone," which she did in short order. Mr. Cuccinelli was on the phone. He was the #2 at the DHS at the time. It was on speakerphone and the president essentially said, "Ken, I'm on the phone with the acting AG. He just told me it's your job to seize machines and you're not doing your job. And Mr. Cuccinelli responded.


Rep. Kinzinger to Jeff Rosen:
  • Q: Did you ever tell the president that the DHS could seize voting machines?
  • A: No, certainly not.


Rep Kinzinger to Richard Donoghue:
  • Q: During this meeting, did the president tell you that he would remove you and Mr. Rosen because you weren't declaring that there was election fraud?
  • A: Toward the end of the meeting, the president again was getting very agitated. He said "People tell me I should just get rid of both of you. I should just remove you and make a change in leadership to Jeff Clark and maybe something will finally get done." I responded, as I think I had earlier, in the December 27th call, "Mr. President, you should have the leadership that you want. But understand, the US DoJ functions of facts, evidence, and law. And those are not going to change. You can have whatever leadership you want, but the DoJ's position is not going to change."
  • Q: The president's white house counsel Pat Cippollone was also present. Do you remember what his position was?
  • A: Pat was very supportive. Pat Cippollone, throughout these conversations, was extremely supportive of the DoJ. He was consistent. I think he had an impossible job at that point, but he did it well. He always sided with the DoJ in these discussions.

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CableZL
06/23/22 9:06:04 PM
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There's almost two hours of this left, holy shit... The main problem is that the witnesses are all in the legal realm (as they should be), and their responses are commonly very wordy.

Gonna take a break and get back at it.

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What_
06/23/22 9:09:10 PM
#71:


The man should be executed for treason
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CableZL
06/23/22 9:11:01 PM
#72:


Also

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/23/law-enforcement-trump-official-coup-00041767

The DoJ searched Jeffrey Clark's home yesterday.

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CADE FOSTER
06/23/22 9:16:01 PM
#73:


I swear if Marrick Garland refuses to prosecute fire his ass immediately
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CableZL
06/23/22 9:16:41 PM
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CADE FOSTER posted...
I swear if Marrick Garland refuses to prosecute fire his ass immediately
The DoJ appears to be working their way up the ladder at the moment. We'll see how high they end up going.

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CableZL
06/23/22 9:19:22 PM
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GranolaPanic posted...
He wont do anything because hes a feckless coward.
The DoJ is going after Jeffrey Clark right now. We'll have to see if that turns into anything else.

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mybbqrules
06/23/22 9:19:27 PM
#77:


CADE FOSTER posted...
alot of people need to be in jail including trump and alot of other republicans
So much this.

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CADE FOSTER
06/23/22 9:19:44 PM
#78:


GranolaPanic posted...
He wont do anything because hes a feckless coward.
True still think he is pissed because he didnt get the supreme court spot
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CableZL
06/23/22 9:20:14 PM
#79:


Mark Meadows sent emails to the DoJ asking the DoJ to look into a "new set of allegations."
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CableZL
06/23/22 9:21:50 PM
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Probably gonna just post the significant stuff from here on. This is at 2:09:41 of the PBS News Hour Youtube video in the OP for anyone who is interested in the exact testimony. I don't wanna be doing this for another 3 to 4 hours.

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CableZL
06/23/22 9:24:53 PM
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Rep. Kinzinger: The final email here included a completely baseless conspiracy theory that an Italian defense contractor uploaded software to a satellite that switched votes from Trump to Biden.

WHAT

Kinzinger (cont'd): The committee's investigation found that on December 31st, Mark Meadows received this conspiracy theory from Rep. Scott Perry.

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I really get tired of people who are this fucking dumb

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CableZL
06/23/22 9:25:32 PM
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An excerpt of the video sent by Scott Perry is shown explaining the conspiracy theory

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CableZL
06/23/22 9:30:18 PM
#84:


Mark Meadows wanted Jeff Rosen to meet with the guy in the video who is the person in the video explaining the Italian satellite conspiracy theory.

Jeff Rosen said the theory had been debunked and wasn't going to meet with him. Rosen said he could walk into any FBI field office if he had real evidence.

Mark Meadows accepted it initially, then called back a few minutes later. Meadows explained that the guy was working with Rudy Giuliani. Giuliani was offended at the notion of them going to an FBI field office. Rosen again refused to meet with him or Giuliani. Rosen advised Meadows not to raise this with him again.

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CableZL
06/23/22 9:33:23 PM
#85:


Donoghue received a call from a Department of Defense official, Kash Patel, about the Italian satellite conspiracy theory. Patel wanted an explanation of "The Italy thing." Donoghue explained that the video was absurd and the DoJ wasn't going to have anything to do with it. Donoghue said he didn't think it was anything worth pursuing.

Mark Meadows didn't let it go. The request went from the DoJ to the DoD, and acting Secretary of Defense Christopher Miller actually reached out to his counterparts in Italy about it.

Holy shit these people are dumb as hell

Rep. Kinzinger says the committee was able to confirm that a phone call took place from Secretary of Defense Chris Miller to Italy to investigate this.

Holy shit.

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Mizznox
06/23/22 9:33:40 PM
#86:


However much more of this hearing you transcribe/summarize, big props and thanks to you, TC

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CableZL
06/23/22 9:36:10 PM
#87:


Trump in a December 27th phone call
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/5/2/AABjoOAADYB0.jpg

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Strider102
06/23/22 9:40:08 PM
#88:


GranolaPanic posted...
Does the entire GOP automatically believe in the stupidest conspiracy theories possible now?

Yes, yes they do, because reality is too much for their fragile mindset.

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MattcheteGuy
06/23/22 9:41:37 PM
#89:


What_ posted...
executed for treason


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CableZL
06/23/22 9:42:43 PM
#90:


Jeffrey Clark said he would refuse the president's offer for the AG job if Jeff Rosen and Richard Donoghue signed his letter supporting Trump's election fraud claims.

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CableZL
06/23/22 9:46:30 PM
#91:


There was going to be a mass resignation of the assistant AGs if Trump gave Jeff Clark the AG job.

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CableZL
06/23/22 9:48:15 PM
#92:


According to the White House call log on January 3rd, the White House had already started referring to Jeffrey Clark as the Acting Attorney General

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/6/4/AABjoOAADYCA.jpg

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CableZL
06/23/22 9:57:37 PM
#93:


During the meeting in the oval office on the night of January 3rd, Pat Cippollone, Eric Herschmann, and Richard Donoghue "forcefully challenged" Jeffrey Clark to provide evidence of his election fraud claims.

Trump asked what he had to lose if he made Jeff Clark the AG. Donoghue explained that Trump had a great deal to lose. Multiple people in the room explained how damaging it would be to the country, the administration, the DoJ, and Trump personally.

Donoghue explained how incompetent Jeff Clark was in the realm of criminal investigations, and explained how Jeff Clark's claim that he was going to turn the DoJ, including the entire FBI on a dime and conduct a nationwide criminal investigation in 3 days that would produce results was impossible.

No one in the room supported Jeff Clark.

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CableZL
06/23/22 9:59:56 PM
#94:


Richard Donoghue told Trump to his face that Trump's entire leadership within the DoJ would resign if he made Jeff Clark the AG, which would have resulted in hundreds of resignations.

That would have made my spreadsheet hell, I tell you

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CableZL
06/23/22 10:08:59 PM
#95:


The DoJ sent about 500 officers from various departments to help restore security at the capitol on January 6th. Richard Donoghue went in person to give first-hand accounts about when it would be likely that congress could reconvene to certify the election.

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CableZL
06/23/22 10:11:15 PM
#96:


I really never imagined how many within the government held firm to their oaths of office to keep the country from plunging into Trump's authoritarian dreamland.

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CableZL
06/23/22 10:12:20 PM
#97:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/7/7/AABjoOAADYCN.jpg

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CableZL
06/23/22 10:19:25 PM
#98:


Members of congress mentioned by name as having requested pre-emptive pardons during depositions of Eric Herschmann, Cassidy Hutchinson, and John McEntee (former Director, White House Presidential Personnel Office):
  • Matt Gaetz (Had been personally pushing for a pardon since early December, had requested it from multiple people)
  • Mo Brooks
  • Andy Biggs
  • Louie Gohmert
  • Scott Perry
  • Cassidy Hutchison heard from Pat Philbin that Marjorie Taylor Greene asked the White House Counsel's office for a pardon.
  • Jim Jordan discussed it, but never requested one from Cassidy Hutchison


Trump discussed potential pardons for "staff and everyone involved in January 6th" before he left office

I think this is actually the end of the hearing here, around 2:52:26 of the PBS News Hour video. I forgot that they do extended news coverage afterward on the stream.

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CableZL
06/23/22 10:21:39 PM
#99:


I disagree with a lot of Adam Kinzinger's political views, but he did an excellent job leading this hearing. Especially with this one being so deep in the legal realm of the DoJ.

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CableZL
06/23/22 10:23:12 PM
#100:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Yes, that was him. According to Adam Kinzinger, over Jeffery Clark plead the 5th over 125 times.

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CADE FOSTER
06/23/22 10:24:05 PM
#101:


everyone that asked for a pardon needs to be removed from office
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