Board 8 > Pick a shot from New Pokemon Snap and I will talk about it

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-hotdogturtle--
06/22/22 8:57:06 PM
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I did this a few months ago and it was kinda fun. (Old topic: 79905244) Choose any Pokemon in the game and a star level (1-4). I will post the known world record and a little blurb about the shot/strat from the perspective of a competitive high score player. A fun learning experience for everyone.

One request per person at a time please, but after I do yours you can post another one. Topic will go until I don't feel like updating.

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Zigzagoon
06/22/22 8:58:16 PM
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Lycanroc 4 Star

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Underleveled
06/22/22 9:07:45 PM
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Qwilfish 3

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06/22/22 11:36:40 PM
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Zigzagoon posted...
Lycanroc 4 Star
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/1/6/AASP7CAADXzM.jpg

A double background shot (bloom + tornado) that's surprisingly not difficult for what it is. The angle for fitting the tornado in the shot is lenient, and Lycanroc is a very cooperative Pokemon to lure thanks to good eyesight and quick running speed. Lycanroc is a Pokemon that can get side direction (meaning that you can get up to 1000 Direction score from a profile side view) and I have a vague memory from last year that it was one of the earliest non-obvious Pokemon to be discovered as such. At the time we thought that it might have been a carryover from sharing a Photodex spot with Lycanroc Midday Form (since a lot of quadupedal or long Pokemon were blatantly intended to be shot from the side), but over time as we found more, it turns out that they just gave it to some other Pokemon for whatever reasons.

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06/22/22 11:47:48 PM
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Underleveled posted...
Qwilfish 3
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/2/1/AASP7CAADXzR.jpg

For a long time this picture was capped at 4800 due to a lack of other Pokemon anywhere in the area, although for whatever reason no one actually went for the perfect 4800 until around 2 months ago. So where did the second Qwilfish come from? That's an even newer development from the end of last month. You have to inflate one of the earlier Qwilfish in the level, and then while you're in front of this one, you bonk the first one, which makes it fly all over the screen like a popped balloon. With good timing you can get it zipping past the background here, which finally broke a maxed score.

On a personal note Qwilfish 3 is my oldest remaining shot in my Photodex, with 4768 from 4/30/2021 02:44:18 (that is, 2 hours and 44 minutes after I first started playing the game at midnight release). Of course it took a little while before I realized how lucky my first ever Qwilfish shot was. It's at the point where I've avoided trying to improve it because I don't want to overwrite my nostalgic oldest picture.

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Paratroopa1
06/22/22 11:59:06 PM
#6:


I loved this thread before! I don't suppose you have a list of ones we've already done because I don't remember, lol
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CassandraCain
06/23/22 12:29:58 PM
#7:


Hooray this is back!

Hmm, I too can't remember all the ones that were done before, so I'll just pick Heracross 4* and if it was already done we can switch it to a different star rank.

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Zigzagoon
06/23/22 12:50:23 PM
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Lycanroc 3 Star

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06/23/22 1:00:39 PM
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-hotdogturtle-- posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/2/1/AASP7CAADXzR.jpg

For a long time this picture was capped at 4800 due to a lack of other Pokemon anywhere in the area, although for whatever reason no one actually went for the perfect 4800 until around 2 months ago. So where did the second Qwilfish come from? That's an even newer development from the end of last month. You have to inflate one of the earlier Qwilfish in the level, and then while you're in front of this one, you bonk the first one, which makes it fly all over the screen like a popped balloon. With good timing you can get it zipping past the background here, which finally broke a maxed score.

On a personal note Qwilfish 3 is my oldest remaining shot in my Photodex, with 4768 from 4/30/2021 02:44:18 (that is, 2 hours and 44 minutes after I first started playing the game at midnight release). Of course it took a little while before I realized how lucky my first ever Qwilfish shot was. It's at the point where I've avoided trying to improve it because I don't want to overwrite my nostalgic oldest picture.
Oh wow, I picked a really intriguing one!

Ledian 4

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oneofcircles
06/23/22 8:54:11 PM
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As someone who has never played this game, what is the significance of the star rating? Clearly it isn't just points.

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06/23/22 11:10:12 PM
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oneofcircles posted...
As someone who has never played this game, what is the significance of the star rating? Clearly it isn't just points.
They're basically different types of categorization that exist to increase the variety. In Snap 64 your report saved 1 scored photo of each Pokemon. In this game the Photodex tracks 4 photos of each Pokemon, and they are all scored and saved independently of each other. This allows you to experience more of the action and not let so much of the game's content go to waste.

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-hotdogturtle--
06/23/22 11:28:10 PM
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CassandraCain posted...
Hmm, I too can't remember all the ones that were done before, so I'll just pick Heracross 4* and if it was already done we can switch it to a different star rank.
I consulted the logs and it turns out that someone actually did request Heracross 4 in my last topic. So instead I'll give you Heracross 3.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/5/1/AASP7CAADYDX.jpg

Surprise, it's the same picture. This is one of those weird cases where two record shots have the same composition. This is the scene where Sylveon comes out and breaks up Heracross/Pinsir fighting. The trigger for making this a 4 star photo is getting Sylveon in the shot with Heracross. So what this shot does is zoom in slightly more so Sylveon is missing, and it turns into 3 star. It's still high scoring because it's getting points from Pinsir and the whole background.

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CassandraCain
06/24/22 12:40:23 AM
#13:


Nice. Next I would like to go with Beartic 3* since I just got a pic of it that scored a little over 6k. Which is now easily my highest scoring photo.

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Kenri
06/24/22 1:05:16 AM
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Wishiwashi 4*?

Specifically the one I'm thinking of is where it's chasing Wailord at the end of the stage (if that one's even used for a high scoring shot). I think in the last topic I mistakenly asked for Wailord 4* instead <__<

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-hotdogturtle--
06/24/22 3:45:41 AM
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Zigzagoon posted...
Lycanroc 3 Star
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/5/3/AASP7CAADYGh.jpg

This shot used to be taken in front of the bloom in the oasis area until people got more adventurous with their luring. This is the Lycanroc that normally hangs around the split path section. It's the only one in the course that does the eye beams when you orb it. It's lured down the hill in order to take it at the same spot as the 4 star. On a more casual level, there are alternatives to either take this one in front of the single bloom (less background), or take one eating (less pose) in front of the double background, both of which can get a relatively painless 5100.

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-hotdogturtle--
06/24/22 4:10:12 AM
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Underleveled posted...
Ledian 4
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/5/7/AASP7CAADYGl.jpg

This shot looks really basic, but it's actually a good demonstration of synergy mechanics at work. It's been empirically proven that the formula for synergy points is (Pose+Size+Direction)/5, or in English, 20% of what the side Pokemon's score would be other than Placement. Assuming that the side Ledian has the exact same stats as the main Ledian here, you can see the math work out (this is how, in some cases, we can work out a theoretical max score for a shot that isn't anywhere close yet). They also have synergy placement, which is the ability to aim at the point directly between two bodies' main hitboxes and it counts as its own placement spot, hence 1000 here.

The photo itself looks quite boring and I can't imagine why they made this interaction count as 4 stars in the first place.

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Zigzagoon
06/24/22 8:27:35 AM
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Lycanroc 2 Star

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Underleveled
06/24/22 12:29:44 PM
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Deerling 1

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andylt
06/24/22 6:50:38 PM
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In honour of its victory

Bulbasaur 1

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oneofcircles
06/25/22 1:11:11 PM
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-hotdogturtle-- posted...
They're basically different types of categorization that exist to increase the variety. In Snap 64 your report saved 1 scored photo of each Pokemon. In this game the Photodex tracks 4 photos of each Pokemon, and they are all scored and saved independently of each other. This allows you to experience more of the action and not let so much of the game's content go to waste.
Honestly, I still don't quite understand. So each star is a unique photo-op? Are 4 stars rarer or harder to get?

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-hotdogturtle--
06/25/22 1:20:09 PM
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oneofcircles posted...
So each star is a unique photo-op?
Correct. Every possible animation and interaction that a Pokemon has while they're on the course is designated a star level. So as you're taking pictures, they'll always be sorted into four groups. 1 star is normal behavior like a common pose, or just standing there doing nothing. 4 stars are generally the most special interactions, often an interaction with another Pokemon or the environment that you have to set up with your tools. Of course looking back through this topic, I can see how it wouldn't be clear from the pictures because these are some crappy 4 stars.

Lycanroc's 4 star is doing a happy reaction after eating an apple, which is more commonly commonly 2 stars for most Pokemon.
Heracross is confusing if you haven't seen it because it's an interaction that can be 3 or 4 stars depending on how you take the shot.
Ledian is a an easy interaction (just light the flower and they come out) so I personally think it doesn't make sense for it to be 4 stars.

Usually the 4 star shots are more interesting!

I guess you can think of it as, like, not necessarily rarer from a gameplay perspective, but in-universe, Pokemon behaviors that would be more unusual to see out in the wild.

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Kenri
06/25/22 1:34:43 PM
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1*: Just standing there
2*: Eating/sleeping/etc
3*: Special pose
4*: Special pose that you have to solve an extremely obtuse puzzle to trigger

Basically, and with a lot of exceptions.

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oneofcircles
06/25/22 1:37:05 PM
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Thanks, I only played the first game

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06/25/22 2:00:26 PM
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CassandraCain posted...
Nice. Next I would like to go with Beartic 3* since I just got a pic of it that scored a little over 6k. Which is now easily my highest scoring photo.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/8/6/AASP7CAADYbW.jpg

This is the highest non-Illumina/legendary photo in the game (and iirc the first one of such to reach 6000). It has a little no, a lot of everything. There's a bit of an issue though, that this pose is one of the few poses known to have been altered in the 2.0 patch. The part of the animation where he looks straight at you doesn't give 1000 points anymore; the timing was changed so the 1000 pose occurs at a point with bad direction (nerfed because they didn't want a single picture to score this high?). That means that scores over 6.3k are now impossible to get. Using the next best thing that compromises between pose and direction, you can get 6.2k, but it's a little harder.

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-hotdogturtle--
06/25/22 2:14:48 PM
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Kenri posted...
Wishiwashi 4*?

Specifically the one I'm thinking of is where it's chasing Wailord at the end of the stage (if that one's even used for a high scoring shot). I think in the last topic I mistakenly asked for Wailord 4* instead <__<
I know the one you're talking about, but that shot isn't used for any Wishiwashi high scores. Wishiwashi's 4 star record is creating the whirlpool:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/2/2/AASP7CAADYb6.jpg

However, it is Wailord's own 3 star strat:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/2/3/AASP7CAADYb7.jpg

It works itself out that this is better for Wailord than anything else in Reef or Undersea. Even though you can barely see Wishiwashi behind it, it still gives a big enough bonus to be worth it.

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CassandraCain
06/25/22 2:49:28 PM
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Ah okay, that's about the same pic of Beartic that I got, the exact total was 6,032 I think. It surprised me when I saw the number though.

I'd say it deserves the high score, it's a beautiful photo.

Are there any other regular pokes that can reach 6k? If so I'd like that one to be my next pick plz!

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06/25/22 3:11:11 PM
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Zigzagoon posted...
Lycanroc 2 Star
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/6/9/AASP7CAADYcp.jpg

...Nah, I'm just kidding, that's not it.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/7/0/AASP7CAADYcq.jpg

You hit Rockruff with an apple and Lycanroc gets angry at you. They're both roaming before you do anything with them, so there's some freedom to optimize their positions ahead of time. It looks like they angled Rockruff in a way to get good side direction to squeeze out the most bonus points. Mandibuzz's nest gives background in this shot.

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Zigzagoon
06/25/22 3:30:08 PM
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Lycanroc 1 Star

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-hotdogturtle--
06/30/22 1:34:42 AM
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Damn it, I was gonna update some more writeups but Cyberscore is down so I can't get any of the pictures >_>

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06/30/22 1:57:31 PM
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Underleveled posted...
Deerling 1
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/9/1/AASP7CAADZjT.jpg

This is what's been dubbed an "idle pose", a random action that a Pokemon may do while it's not interacting with anything. Idle poses are both a blessing and curse in this game. They breathe a huge amount of life and variety into this game for making the wild Pokemon seem more realistic. But it can also be a pain when an idle pose is required for a record shot because you have to get it into position and then just hope that it happens. Idles can be any star level or pose value, but they are most commonly 1 star and 900-1000 points, accounting for the fact that 1 stars are most likely to have fewer good interactions. This shot is also taken in front of the "seasons room", a common background area because it has both a crystabloom and a crap-ton of extra Pokemon.

When I attempted my version of this shot, I chose to use Summer Deerling because it is clearly the superior looking Deerling. But doing so requires you to give up Gardevoir from the background because it only shows up if you take the winter path. I'm happy with the way that my PB looks, but there's always the potential that it could have been slightly higher if I had taken the same shot from winter instead...

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06/30/22 3:14:25 PM
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andylt posted...
Bulbasaur 1
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/7/2/AASP7CAADZkk.jpg

There are 2 Bulbasaurs that you can orb and they run up onto this cliff section. The one closer to you will always get there first, and it starts looking around back and forth while it's waiting for the second one to arrive. That's what this is, catching it mid-head turn. It's timed in such a way that the second one gets there as quick as possible so it's fully visible while the first one is still mid-animation (this is the trickiest part; most people's shots have the second one hidden behind the first while it's still coming in). By using face placement instead of body placement, the shot can be taken further to the right to include the Unfezant's nest for additional background.

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