Board 8 > Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1370

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ctesjbuvf
06/29/22 6:34:58 AM
#152:


While I don't Arceus has much strength, I would not think grasp graphics had anything to do with it.

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Leonhart4
06/29/22 8:43:52 AM
#153:


Lightning Strikes posted...
Elden Ring winning easily is unsurprising, the game is a monster and likely the strongest game since BOTW. Kirby is the real surprise here though, that has to be the strongest Kirby game.

Well, it's the first Kirby game in forever that Nintendo has given that kind of promotional push, so it's not too surprising to me to see that it's doing relatively well.

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plasmabeam
06/29/22 10:03:51 AM
#154:


Lightning Strikes posted...
Elden Ring winning easily is unsurprising, the game is a monster and likely the strongest game since BOTW. Kirby is the real surprise here though, that has to be the strongest Kirby game.

Smash Ultimate would wreck Elden Ring

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AxemRedRanger
06/29/22 10:11:43 AM
#155:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3460-division-4-round-1-csotn-kirbyss-re-s-mario-64
Oldass poll but I'd take getting quadrupled and SFFed by Mario 64 over getting tripled by Elden Ring.
We've also seen a general SNES boost since then and several rereleases. And while it doesn't do well in these for obvious reasons, I think under the circumstances KSS avoids completely embarassing itself in Best Nintendo game for SNES polls:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/4425-what-is-your-all-time-favorite-nintendo-game-on-the-snes
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/8550-what-is-your-all-time-favorite-nintendo-game-on-the-snes

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KamikazePotato
06/29/22 11:12:11 AM
#156:


Witcher 3 would've beaten Smash Ultimate, so Elden Ring definitely can as well.

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Leonhart4
06/29/22 11:36:21 AM
#157:


It's hard to get a sense of Kirby Super Star's strength because we've never seen it in a "fair" fight. It has the advantage of being a 90s SNES game, but I don't think it's particularly strong.

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plasmabeam
06/29/22 11:49:13 AM
#158:


KamikazePotato posted...
Witcher 3 would've beaten Smash Ultimate, so Elden Ring definitely can as well.

BotW SFF'd Smash.

Head-to-head, I would take Smash over either of those.

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pjbasis
06/29/22 1:17:47 PM
#159:


Brawl didn't get sff'd by Majora's mask tho

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AxemRedRanger
06/29/22 2:11:39 PM
#160:


Leonhart4 posted...
It's hard to get a sense of Kirby Super Star's strength because we've never seen it in a "fair" fight. It has the advantage of being a 90s SNES game, but I don't think it's particularly strong.
Sure. Kirby Super Star has basically no chance at being close in strength to even, say, DKC2.
It just still probably has enough to be better than Forgotten Land or any other Kirby game.
...Incidentally, Forgotten Land's position vs. Elden Ring's seems to have deteriorated notably further even just since this morning? That power hour must have been wild.

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Leonhart4
06/29/22 2:12:55 PM
#161:


Kirby might be the biggest board vote fave outside of something like Phoenix Wright

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Seanchan
06/29/22 2:18:46 PM
#162:


What if we had a contest with games AND characters intermingled?

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Leonhart4
06/29/22 2:19:10 PM
#163:


Seanchan posted...
What if we had a contest with games AND characters intermingled?

Link vs. Ocarina of Time in the finals who ya got

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Mac Arrowny
06/29/22 2:19:25 PM
#164:


It's interesting comparing this to the last poll:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/8778-whats-your-pick-for-the-best-game-of-2022-so-far
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/8868-what-is-your-pick-for-game-of-the-year-for-2022-so-far

Looks like Triangle Strategy is the only game to lose %? It's a pretty insignificant amount, tho. Otherwise things are mostly the same, except that the April-June replacements seem to be a bit weaker than the January-March third tier games, which is kinda sad/funny.

Not too much should be that strong in the second half of the year, as far as what's announced. I'd guess God of War Ragnarok as #1 and Xenoblade 3 as #2. Not sure whether Xenoblade 3 ends up above Kirby or Pokemon, but I think it will.

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ctesjbuvf
06/29/22 2:27:22 PM
#165:


plasmabeam posted...
BotW SFF'd Smash.

Head-to-head, I would take Smash over either of those.

Hard to compare that. It was definitely the strongest Smash (proven that contest) against definitely not the strongest Zelda game.

I don't think there's a Smash Ultimate match to be taken at face value, the Odyssey match proved it can get the job done when it looks unlikely.

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Seanchan
06/29/22 2:31:35 PM
#166:


Leonhart4 posted...
Link vs. Ocarina of Time in the finals who ya got

Well, yeah, I'm mean the final match likely wouldn't be "fun" (it's gotta be Link there) but all that talk about the weak Kirby games, when Kirby the character is pretty strong, just got me thinking.

Who ya got:
Mario vs Super Metroid
Kirby vs Final Fantasy 10
Alucard vs Persona 4

I'm sure you guys who dig more into the numbers could find more interesting/debatable matches.

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Leonhart4
06/29/22 2:35:25 PM
#167:


Characters vs. Games is such a bizarre concept that I don't think I could really get into it. I don't even know how to compare which one I'd like better.

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ctesjbuvf
06/29/22 2:36:19 PM
#168:


Alucard kills Persona 4. Mario beats Super Metroid too.

Last one is hardest because Kirby is pretty unpredictable.

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plasmabeam
06/29/22 3:34:10 PM
#169:


Seanchan posted...
Who ya got:
Mario vs Super Metroid
Kirby vs Final Fantasy 10
Alucard vs Persona 4

Mario 65-35
FFX 53-47
Alucard 60-40

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Seanchan
06/29/22 3:37:23 PM
#170:


Who ya got:

Luigi vs Castlevania: SotN
Bowser vs Dark Souls
Tifa vs Majora's Mask
Crono vs Super Mario World


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plasmabeam
06/29/22 3:50:56 PM
#171:


Leonhart4 posted...
Characters vs. Games is such a bizarre concept that I don't think I could really get into it. I don't even know how to compare which one I'd like better.

Yeah, it's bizarre, but it would be tons of fun to predict.

Cloud vs. LttP
Sonic vs. Witcher 3
Mega Man vs. Chrono Trigger
Mario vs. FF7
Squall vs. Xenoblade 1
Pikachu vs. Castlevania: SotN
Ganondorf vs. Metroid Prime
Tidus vs. Luigi's Mansion 3
Yoshi vs. Tetris
Lara Croft vs. Kirby Super Star
Tanner vs. Adventure


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plasmabeam
06/29/22 3:52:42 PM
#172:


Seanchan posted...
Luigi vs Castlevania: SotN
Bowser vs Dark Souls
Tifa vs Majora's Mask
Crono vs Super Mario World

Luigi 53-47
Bowser 57-43
Majora 55-45
SMW 53-47


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Leonhart4
06/29/22 3:52:47 PM
#173:


Yeah absolutely none of that appeals to me because it's unpredictable for the wrong reasons. It's unpredictable because you're trying to compare things that aren't comparable.

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Seanchan
06/29/22 3:57:24 PM
#174:


plasmabeam posted...
Yeah, it's bizarre, but it would be tons of fun to predict.

Cloud vs. LttP
Sonic vs. Witcher 3
Mega Man vs. Chrono Trigger
Mario vs. FF7
Squall vs. Xenoblade 1 - not sure about this one
Pikachu vs. Castlevania: SotN
Ganondorf vs. Metroid Prime - not sure about this one but anticipating the Switch port
Tidus vs. Luigi's Mansion 3
Yoshi vs. Tetris
Lara Croft vs. Kirby Super Star - not sure about this one
Tanner vs. Adventure - not sure about this one

I love this! This would be a great contest and we wouldn't have to artificially remove a bunch of characters/games because we know the results.

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Seanchan
06/29/22 4:02:52 PM
#175:


Leonhart4 posted...
Yeah absolutely none of that appeals to me because it's unpredictable for the wrong reasons. It's unpredictable because you're trying to compare things that aren't comparable.

BOOOOO You're no fun! I mean, how does one really say whether Elden Ring is a better game than Tetris? Or if Bowser is better than Scorpion?

I'd take a Character/Game melee over "New Characters Post 16-Bit" or "Best Game Since 2000" or whatever other artificial limitations that have been talked about.


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Leonhart4
06/29/22 4:05:03 PM
#176:


I mean I can easily tell you I like Bowser better than Scorpion

I don't even know how to compare something like Ryu vs. Metroid Prime in my own mind

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AxemRedRanger
06/29/22 4:05:04 PM
#177:


maybe you're a WEIRDO

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squexa
06/29/22 4:19:43 PM
#178:


What about

1985 vs Devil May Cry
Ace Attorney vs (Jill vs Nemesis)
Master Sword vs 2001
Samus vs (Cloud vs Sephiroth)
Jane Eyre vs 1984

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plasmabeam
06/29/22 4:25:25 PM
#179:


Here are some thoughts I had on characters vs their own games...

  • Can any Mega Man game beat Zero?
  • How many Smash Bros. characters can beat Ultimate?
  • What's the strongest Zelda game that Princess Zelda can beat?



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Mac Arrowny
06/29/22 4:25:52 PM
#180:


To Zanarkand vs. Super Smash Bros. Melee's box art

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Seanchan
06/29/22 4:38:57 PM
#181:


plasmabeam posted...
Here are some thoughts I had on characters vs their own games...

* Can any Mega Man game beat Zero?
* How many Smash Bros. characters can beat Ultimate?
* What's the strongest Zelda game that Princess Zelda can beat?

  • Maybe 2 and 3?
  • We're past "peak" Ultimate right? Link, yes. Mario and Samus...yes?
  • She's definitely beating Skyward Sword, right? Then you've got WW and TP. I'd say she's probably in that range.

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redrocket
06/29/22 4:40:22 PM
#182:


Hey guys while were pushing crazy ideas for contests lets not forget about that old idea of expanding the character battle to characters that originated outside games.

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Leonhart4
06/29/22 4:41:05 PM
#183:


redrocket posted...
Hey guys while were pushing crazy ideas for contests lets not forget about that old idea of expanding the character battle to characters that originated outside games.

But this is a VIDEO GAME WEBSITE

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redrocket
06/29/22 4:43:11 PM
#184:


Leonhart4 posted...
But this is a VIDEO GAME WEBSITE

And Batman, Darth Vader, and Goku have all been in VIDYA GAMES. Let them in!

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LiquidOshawott
06/29/22 4:48:02 PM
#185:


Cant wait for Pac-Man vs Dr. Pepper

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TeamRocketElite
06/29/22 4:51:33 PM
#186:


LiquidOshawott posted...
Cant wait for Pac-Man vs Dr. Pepper


An intellectual drink for the chosen ones.

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AxemRedRanger
06/29/22 4:57:28 PM
#187:


my favorite soda vs. the Hillary Clinton of Smash Bros. characters huh

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OrangeCrush980
06/29/22 5:22:37 PM
#188:


squexa posted...
Master Sword vs 2001

That match would make me cry. One of the best years in gaming loses to an accessory from the Zelda series.

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Seanchan
06/29/22 8:17:38 PM
#189:


OrangeCrush980 posted...
That match would make me cry. One of the best years in gaming loses to an accessory from the Zelda series.

I thought he was talking about the film 2001

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snake_5036
06/30/22 7:44:19 AM
#190:


LiquidOshawott posted...
Cant wait for Pac-Man vs Dr. Pepper
Dr Pepper 70-30 ez

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Leonhart4
06/30/22 10:03:37 AM
#191:


For the next contest let's put every entrant that's ever been in a contest in one poll and see who comes out on top

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PrinceOfKoopas
06/30/22 9:27:32 PM
#192:


CATS is gonna get boosted from Zero Wing being available on Nintendo Switch Online!

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LeonhartFour
06/30/22 9:28:02 PM
#193:


All your base are belong to us

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swirIdude
06/30/22 10:05:56 PM
#194:


CATS' plan has finally come to fruition.

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Leonhart4
06/30/22 10:11:22 PM
#195:


It just means one more character Link can SFF now

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PrinceOfKoopas
07/01/22 12:04:09 AM
#197:


UltimaterializerX posted...
I don't see it yet?
I dunno personally; I don't subscribe to the Expansion Pack.

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_SecretSquirrel
07/01/22 1:12:56 AM
#198:


https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1542677284750082054

I would laugh if this was somehow the impetus for a CATS or Zero Wing victory of any sort.

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Not_Wylvane
07/01/22 2:12:08 PM
#200:


Donkey Kong vs. Donkey Kong

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WarThaNemesis2
07/01/22 2:13:26 PM
#201:


Forget that.

Mega Man vs. Mega Man 2, what do you take?

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