Current Events > Skateboarder Taylor Silverman speaks out after placing 2nd to trans competitor

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Lebronwon
05/20/22 12:26:45 PM
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https://nypost.com/2022/05/20/skateboarder-taylor-silverman-rips-trans-competitors-who-win/

A female skateboarder is flipping out at transgender athletes who are allowed to compete in womens events saying its costing her thousands of dollars in prize money. I am sick of being bullied into silence, Taylor Silverman, 27, complained on Instagram Wednesday, already landing more than 17,000 likes, as well as a flurry of attacks accusing her of being transphobic. Silverman, from Kalamazoo, Michigan, complained that she has competed in three different contests with trans women, two of which I placed second. She shared a letter she wrote to Red Bull complaining about the unfair competition she faced at its Cornerstone competition, which skateboard blogs say was won by trans skater Lilian Gallagher. A biological man with a clear advantage won the womens division, best trick, and also won multiple qualifiers, Silverman wrote in the message. This took away the opportunity that was meant for women to place and earn money, she wrote to Red Bull Senior Sports Marketing Manager Erich Dummer. In her post, Silverman detailed how Gallagher whom she did not name took home a total of $5,000 of the prize money meant for the female athletes.

I deserved to place first, be acknowledged for my win, and get paid, she said, complaining that she was ignored by Red Bull. Silverman received a steady stream of supportive messages, with some calling for boycotts of events where trans skaters competed. Im proud of you for speaking up! another sketboarder told her. Live your truth, and always stand for what you believe in, just as everyone else should. However, she was also thrashed in a flood of angry messages accusing her of being a sore loser and transphobic. Im not a transphobe says transphobe, after tagging every transphobe they can think of in their transphobic post, one person wrote. Piers Morgan who interviewed Silverman on his new TV show Thursday said that the abuse that she got from the trans community was appalling. Blogger Christina Buttons tweeted that the amount of vitriol Taylor Silverman has received is exactly why more women dont come forward when biological males enter their sports category. Every hour, 100s of abusive comments come in for every few offering support, she noted. She called Silverman incredibly brave for speaking up to defend her sports category. Not many can tolerate the onslaught of abuse shes endured. Some of the support she did get, however, should help her with blogger Tim Pool saying his Timcast will gladly cover the difference and grant Taylor Silverman the $2250 difference lost. We will also be willing to cover the total lost revenue for the female athletes who would have placed higher were it not for the male athlete, Pool tweeted.



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wackyteen
05/20/22 12:28:05 PM
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TC still at it

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EndOfDiscOne
05/20/22 12:28:08 PM
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This topic will go well

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DrizztLink
05/20/22 12:29:01 PM
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wackyteen posted...
TC still at it
What, you expected him to find a fulfilling hobby or something?

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CrimsonAngel
05/20/22 12:29:54 PM
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wackyteen posted...
TC still at it
His usual schtick is race baiting tho

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EmbraceOfDeath
05/20/22 12:31:11 PM
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But you should obviously cater to the extremely small number of transwomen competing in these events because they might get their feelings hurt, not the countless women who are at a factual, unfair physical disadvantage competing against transwomen.

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A_Good_Boy
05/20/22 12:31:24 PM
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What does she usually place when she's not competing against Trans-skaters?

How much of a difference does gender make when you're skateboarding?

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viewmaster_pi
05/20/22 12:31:54 PM
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men and women's street skateboarding is night and day, vert and transition are a bit closer, though

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DrizztLink
05/20/22 12:31:56 PM
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CrimsonAngel posted...
His usual schtick is race baiting tho
It's at least half trans stuff these days.

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CrimsonAngel
05/20/22 12:32:17 PM
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EmbraceOfDeath posted...
But you should obviously cater to the extremely small number of transwomen competing in these events because they might get their feelings hurt, not the countless women who are at a factual, unfair physical disadvantage competing against transwomen.
Explain to the class how gender makes any difference in skateboarding

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LivingLegendx8
05/20/22 12:33:14 PM
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She didnt lose because the person was trans.

She lost because she sucks at skateboarding.

Get good. You got owned.
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RamboCell29
05/20/22 12:38:16 PM
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There should be an admission from even the most pro-trans people that biological males and biological females should probably not be competing together in physical sports.

But that won't go anywhere on this board, so eh

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Mikea
05/20/22 12:40:35 PM
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women are women and should compete against other women. Grats to a well-earned win lass

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Questionmarktarius
05/20/22 12:40:57 PM
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Squall28
05/20/22 12:43:53 PM
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A_Good_Boy posted...
What does she usually place when she's not competing against Trans-skaters?

How much of a difference does gender make when you're skateboarding?

The article says she placed 2nd at these events so she would have been first?

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Deutschenlied
05/20/22 12:44:58 PM
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womp womp
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Lokison
05/20/22 12:46:25 PM
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Huh.. I feel like with the flexibility most woman have Skate Boarding should be easier for them than for men.

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CommonStar
05/20/22 12:47:51 PM
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LivingLegendx8 posted...
She didnt lose because the person was trans.

She lost because she sucks at skateboarding.

Get good. You got owned.
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toadfan64
05/20/22 12:50:44 PM
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She's absolutely right.

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JuanCarlos1
05/20/22 12:52:13 PM
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I like trans women, but will never agree they should play in the same sports as biologically born females.

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HokagoTeaTime
05/20/22 12:59:52 PM
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I think that it is a Nuanced Issue that doesn't have any Easy Answers

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DipDipDiver
05/20/22 1:00:26 PM
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Live your truth, and always stand for what you believe in, just as everyone else should.
"Unless you're trans, then gtfo of my sport"
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Questionmarktarius
05/20/22 1:01:46 PM
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HokagoTeaTime posted...
I think that it is a Nuanced Issue that doesn't have any Easy Answers
There is, and it instantly exposes the "equality!! - except when it inconveniences me!" crowd.

End sex segregation in sports.
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AablMind
05/20/22 1:02:23 PM
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If cis women shouldnt have to compete with trans women then trans women shouldnt have to compete with cis men either. Until trans leagues/divisions/whatever have the proper support though I really dont think its a pressing issue.

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cuttin_in_farm
05/20/22 1:02:58 PM
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I dont know enough about skateboarding to determine if gender is a large factor.

But lol at telling a second place finisher she sucks at skateboarding.

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ZeroV2
05/20/22 1:03:39 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
There is, and it instantly exposes the "equality!! - except when it inconveniences me!" crowd.

End sex segregation in sports.
That would ensure there is no elite women athletes in any mainstream competition

I think if someone transitioned at any point they should be competing in an open league (basically the men category) since they have natural athletic advantages

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cuttin_in_farm
05/20/22 1:04:27 PM
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Its as if having empathy for people is impossible, or something.

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Mikea
05/20/22 1:05:33 PM
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why are you pretending it's about empathy

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ZeroV2
05/20/22 1:06:05 PM
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Mikea posted...
why are you pretending it's about empathy
i personally feel bad for her because I dont think its fair

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Squall28
05/20/22 1:07:07 PM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
I dont know enough about skateboarding to determine if gender is a large factor.

But lol at telling a second place finisher she sucks at skateboarding.

Exactly. The fuck are these guys talking about. She's obviously good. Are cis woman bad at skateboarding CE? Is that your argument?

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Lost_All_Senses
05/20/22 1:07:46 PM
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They really grinded out that pun.

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UnholyMudcrab
05/20/22 1:08:41 PM
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I'm beginning to think that TC works for the NY Post

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Mikea
05/20/22 1:10:17 PM
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how does it not exhaust you guys being so disingenuous literally all the time

trans chick wins competition that 99.9% of the time is won by a cis woman you all bust the biggest nut over how much you now get to be giddily transphobic using a thin veil of plausible deniability in the form of "empathy"

it's so fucking gross and two-faced and I don't understand how it doesn't make you feel like shit

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Dakimakura
05/20/22 1:11:42 PM
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Women should be allowed to compete in women events

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viewmaster_pi
05/20/22 1:12:16 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
They really grinded out that pun.
ground?

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ZeroV2
05/20/22 1:12:56 PM
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Mikea posted...
how does it not exhaust you guys being so disingenuous literally all the time

trans chick wins competition that 99.9% of the time is won by a cis woman you all bust the biggest nut over how much you now get to be giddily transphobic using a thin veil of plausible deniability in the form of "empathy"

it's so fucking gross and two-faced and I don't understand how it doesn't make you feel like shit
trans people are probably not competing very often in skateboarding competitions since they make up an extremely small group of people.

i feel like people supporting trans athletes competing against cis women are completely unwilling to even engage in the discussion without immediately labeling the other side as transphobes

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Lost_All_Senses
05/20/22 1:14:01 PM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
ground?


Neh. It works. You just gotta squint your eyes. Or you could just shut up. Either ways fine.

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cuttin_in_farm
05/20/22 1:14:32 PM
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Mikea posted...
how does it not exhaust you guys being so disingenuous literally all the time

trans chick wins competition that 99.9% of the time is won by a cis woman you all bust the biggest nut over how much you now get to be giddily transphobic using a thin veil of plausible deniability in the form of "empathy"

it's so fucking gross and two-faced and I don't understand how it doesn't make you feel like shit

I dont think its all these guys are just transphobic! They dont really care either.

The question is fairness. Since not everyone has reached an agreement on if trans women competing in womans sports (a category that was already created to give them a shot to win things, mind you), people will react differently.

If you dont think its unfair, you probably would just say the lady in OP was outperformed.

If you think its unfair, then youd be empathetic to her situation.

This isnt a Everyone is Evil! thing.

But thats all Ill say ig.

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DipDipDiver
05/20/22 1:20:36 PM
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Did this skater compete in mens' events prior to transitioning? How did she stack up there?
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MARKINGRAM22
05/20/22 1:22:08 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
There is, and it instantly exposes the "equality!! - except when it inconveniences me!" crowd.

End sex segregation in sports.
So get rid of womens sports?
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Questionmarktarius
05/20/22 1:24:40 PM
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...
So get rid of womens sports?
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CyricZ
05/20/22 1:25:09 PM
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ZeroV2
05/20/22 1:25:59 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Yes, alongside the assumption that the end of women's sports means the end of women in sports.
its the end of women ranking highly in sports for sure. Youll never have a Serena or Venus again if theyre competing against men, you wont have the WNBA or womens soccer teams, it will demoralize teens from competing etc

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