Board 8 > Star Wars and Pokemon Mafia Topic 5 - Gold/Silver

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HanOfTheNekos
05/20/22 11:50:16 AM
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Living Playerlist
  1. Ben
  2. Chaeix (JC)
  3. Changmas
  4. Corrik
  5. Death
  6. Hbthebattle
  7. Isquen
  8. Kirby
  9. Lea
  10. Lopen
  11. Masterplum
  12. MZero
  13. Red13n
  14. SBell
  15. Scare
  16. Sir Chris
  17. Sultan
  18. Ulti
  19. ViolentAbacus


Fainted Player list
LD1 - Sheep - Venomoff Gideon, DARK SIDE Tracker/Poisoner
KN1 - IGCD - Charmandalorian, LIGHT SIDE Bodyguard/Vanilla

Votals when other topic ends

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PunishedBen
05/20/22 12:31:34 PM
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I do believe you planned to claim mason.. and that you also shot Chris last night as well expecting him to die.

Chris has no reason to playball with you after you confirm your power with him dead after you either lie and say he changed his mind on you or claim mason outright. So you have no incentive to not claim mason there once you got something from Chris to corroborate your power.

But, if you chose someone you expected to be alive, you can't do this... and choosing someone alive is the best plan for confirming your role anyways.
It was a one night only chat. 23 hours only it turns out. And then the next day I would have been able to choose someone else to chat.

And I'm not too concerned with confirming my role here because neighbors are expected to be scum anyway. Nothing confirming about it. I'd much rather get some use out of it

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Corrik7
05/20/22 12:32:15 PM
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So were you more motivated to get Chris to think you are town or to get Chris' thoughts?

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PunishedBen
05/20/22 12:36:08 PM
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Corrik7 posted...
So were you more motivated to get Chris to think you are town or to get Chris' thoughts?
The latter of course. Either way I was hoping to get something out of it whether he was killed last night or not.

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PunishedBen
05/20/22 12:52:42 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

So you're just content with letting me be lynched. That's it?

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Corrik7
05/20/22 12:54:49 PM
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No because I scanned Arti scum. But, we could. If people want.

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Obellisk
05/20/22 12:56:09 PM
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Corrik7 posted...
No because I scanned Arti scum. But, we could. If people want.


yeah? because In my read back it looked like every game I've ever been in with lopen he's been scum. so that would be quite a trend.

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Obellisk
05/20/22 12:56:50 PM
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Hey Ben. I may have missed it. and apologies if you don't like reexplaining. but why Chris in this large a game?

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Kirby321
05/20/22 1:03:45 PM
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Did Sultan ever say anything about whether Lea moved at all last night? Also,

Corrik7 posted...
No because I scanned Arti scum. But, we could. If people want.

Is this in reference to a past game, or are you saying Arti is scum now?

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htaeD
05/20/22 1:05:36 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Never said this was similar to the Death lynch, but the mentality of ending days early is anti-town to me.


Well at least you arent repeating that evil thought here

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TheSultanOfSlam
05/20/22 1:08:55 PM
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Kirby321 posted...
Did Sultan ever say anything about whether Lea moved at all last night? Also,

In my claim post I did mention she did not move.

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htaeD
05/20/22 1:09:59 PM
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I also dont think Masons have ever been scum/town?
Neighbors sure...

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masterplum
05/20/22 1:11:50 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Ben has done it before.

Chris, I saw your post. Im going to need to reread your argument to think about it after work

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Kirby321
05/20/22 1:41:33 PM
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TheSultanOfSlam posted...
In my claim post I did mention she did not move.

Hmm... that looks good for Lea, then. At least, if I can apply the same logic I used for Hb's tracker scan of ViolentAbacus. Nothing conclusive or solid, but it's worth noting that neither took actions last night.

Honestly, regarding Ben, I'm going back and forth on whether he's scum or not. I want to believe he's being genuine with his reasoning of why he picked Chris and his actions that followed after. But they also just feel flimsy. However, I don't think I have any other good leads on scum besides Lea, but I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt given Sultan's scan. I only gave Lopen/Arti a hard time because I was never sure if their claim was fake or not, but I got an answer for that, so I'll give a pass for now but I likely need to do a reread.

Could someone explain to me what the Ulti scum meta is?

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Kirby321
05/20/22 1:42:44 PM
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... Wait I forgot Scum Ninja is a thing.

Okay I retract my positive statements about Lea and Abacus, then.

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DoomTheGyarados
05/20/22 1:44:00 PM
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Kirby321 posted...
Hmm... that looks good for Lea, then. At least, if I can apply the same logic I used for Hb's tracker scan of ViolentAbacus. Nothing conclusive or solid, but it's worth noting that neither took actions last night.

Honestly, regarding Ben, I'm going back and forth on whether he's scum or not. I want to believe he's being genuine with his reasoning of why he picked Chris and his actions that followed after. But they also just feel flimsy. However, I don't think I have any other good leads on scum besides Lea, but I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt given Sultan's scan. I only gave Lopen/Arti a hard time because I was never sure if their claim was fake or not, but I got an answer for that, so I'll give a pass for now but I likely need to do a reread.

Could someone explain to me what the Ulti scum meta is?

I am literally calling him a liar. Why is this hard lol

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htaeD
05/20/22 1:44:14 PM
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I dont believe Corrik but that doesnt say much about Arti anyway

Also any wouldbe HBers out there shouldnt feel inclined to counterclaim Corrik, just a warning
Its Corrik

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DoomTheGyarados
05/20/22 1:45:01 PM
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VA you aren't the lynch today. Under no circumstance claim.

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changmas
05/20/22 1:52:57 PM
#25:


I counter Stunkylo Ren with Kylo Greninja.

I'm not sure I buy Corrik's argument that Ben neighbors Chris to claim mason and mafia also shoots him. Surely they would be expecting some protection on Chris. I'm not really sure we need to look too much further past Ben's stated reasoning where he would pretend that Chris' thoughts were his. Which I tend to agree with Chris on that that's more likely scum than town.

Also with this new Lea post I think I believe her tbh

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


This part in particular tracks for me. As of now, I'm of the opinion she's town. Somebody scan her for me so we can be sure / convince the broader game

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ViolentAbacus
05/20/22 1:55:56 PM
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Lea, I was more probing you to see just how you would respond, and to see if there was inconsistencies, that was my agenda. I didn't mean nor want you to take it that way. Also, congratulations on the new job.

To Ulti, I believe Corrik actually said the same thing in my first game. I believed he claimed that both me and Chang, who played for the first time together, was alts because we "weren't playing like a new player". Which baffles me, because I am pretty atrocious at Mafia. Nothing you've been saying or doing leads me to believe you are town.

Ben's claims are very suspect.

And don't worry, I wasn't.

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DoomTheGyarados
05/20/22 1:57:06 PM
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Keep in mind Lea, btw, after Ben my scum list is more pencil than pen. As I told sheep yesterday there is plenty of time to discuss things snd hear people out. No need yo be frustrated if you are town. Things are going well and we will hear everyone out.

But my town list is growing so... getting down to it.

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DoomTheGyarados
05/20/22 1:57:58 PM
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Kylo greninja is cool.

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DoomTheGyarados
05/20/22 2:04:35 PM
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Actually Lea since you are heavily suspected you are the one claim I wouldn't mind today. Might clear up the game state. No one else though.

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Obellisk
05/20/22 2:42:33 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]



looked through multiple town games. no calls for mass claim.

and him chalikngg it off to "he does that every game" is just a deflection. I'll admit if I'm wrong after we flip him.

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htaeD
05/20/22 3:08:58 PM
#36:


To be fair to Ulti, I swear I have seen him try it as town once...

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Obellisk
05/20/22 3:12:57 PM
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htaeD posted...
To be fair to Ulti, I swear I have seen him try it as town once...


and honestly, I'm not doubting it. even he is smart enough to pull from both sides to avoid such attacks like this

however it's alot of his demeanor, the "mortally Confirmable", the shade at Chris for being alive, seeing how he acted in past scum games and town games. This game trends on his scum path. You can't argue with facts.

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ScareChan
05/20/22 3:35:29 PM
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Jesus I have so much to read

I expect to be here today, but someone give me a cheat sheet in the mean time because I am going to be pretty slow otherwise

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PunishedBen
05/20/22 3:46:44 PM
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Obellisk posted...
Hey Ben. I may have missed it. and apologies if you don't like reexplaining. but why Chris in this large a game?
The only other option I considered was Scare for maximum memes and fun, but felt like while he was a better choice in FE since I was trying to recruit people that would live till end game, Chris was the best option with this role since it was really only useful to get players' input they could only share at night and will likely only be able to share that night. And that doesn't help for someone's night action results since chat ends before they get them back. So Chris is the person who would have the most useful day 1 thoughts.

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PunishedBen
05/20/22 3:48:26 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Ben claimed scum and we're all bullshitting.
When did I claim scum in your own words?

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PunishedBen
05/20/22 3:49:42 PM
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DoomTheGyarados posted...
I am literally calling him a liar. Why is this hard lol
You're literally wrong!

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PunishedBen
05/20/22 3:55:54 PM
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Lea you say there was no reason for me to claim vanilla day 1 as town. What is the reason for me to do it as town?

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PunishedBen
05/20/22 3:56:13 PM
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*As scum?

Should be at the end of that sentence

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Obellisk
05/20/22 3:57:19 PM
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PunishedBen posted...
And that doesn't help for someone's night action results since chat ends before they get them back

you knew this? I thought that i read the chat ended abruptly and you were unaware of this fact.

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Obellisk
05/20/22 3:57:42 PM
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Your new theme song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFpqbHUiabc

listened to 3 seconds. garbage.

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Obellisk
05/20/22 3:58:22 PM
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Obellisk posted...
listened to 3 seconds. garbage.


wait is that the joke?

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