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skullbone
05/16/22 7:35:41 PM
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Original topic purged but I needed to vent on how titled this game makes me compared to OW1 now that the first beta is almost done.

I understand that tanks are supposed to be OP but I really think they need to tone it down or something. I just had a game on King's Row where Winston was basically unkillable and he got 4 ults in 2 minutes. He was just standing on the frontline in his shield and we couldn't do anything to him because Ana and Mercy were healing him from 100 miles away.

I'm sure this isn't a problem if you have a coordinated team but with pubs it's way too hard to focus these tanks. I had another game where a Hammond player went 36-0 on Route 66. He would roll into our team, do some damage, and then just roll right away. The only way I could see killing him would be a Zenyatta/Sombra or Zen/Mei combo but Mei's freeze barely even slows him down now!

Then when I play attack I feel like my guns are shooting peanuts half of the time. I just played a game where I hit Moira with 4 point blank Reaper shots and her health did not drop. I did not miss those shots and I saw them all connect and she just skittered away.

Genji does feel okay but my main in OW1 was Tracer and she feels weak as hell. If you dive an Ana or Mercy you better hope you land EVERY shot in your clip or they're going to be back to full health by the time you reload. And good luck ever hitting Mercy now that they made superjump easier and she can just permanently fly now.

It really feels like they need to rebuild a lot more heroes to be focused around 5v5 to make this game feel better because right now it's just making me tilted.

How is everyone else feeling?

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Epyo
05/16/22 10:46:55 PM
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I thought it was really fun!

Orisa: I think new Orisa is the most fun hero they've ever had. She's got a ton of abilities and they all feel amazing. The spear throw might be the most satisfying button in the game. She was my fav in the later half of OW1 so I was a little depressed they were changing her, but I'm 100% on board.

Unfortunately I barely got to play her, because the tank queues were so long...

Supports: The biggest debate in the beta was probably whether or not Support heroes "feel good to play" or if they "feel weak". I wish the debate wasn't about this, because it's so subjective.

The real problem was the queues: nobody wanted to play support, so the matchmaking queues were rough, all beta long.

There were people making the argument that "supports feel fine" which I think is absurd when you just look at the queue size difference. It doesn't matter how they feel, all that matters is balancing the queues, so people can PLAY.

Luckily I think Blizz did a good job understanding this: they kept giving specific Supports hilarious buffs, I imagine, in an enthusiastic attempt to balance the queues. (I mean, the Zen +25HP AND boop kick AND kick +dmg, has to be one of the biggest buffs ever to a hero!!) This helped the queues a little bit, but the tank queue was still quite long.

Fundamentally in OW2, I'm not actually sure why anyone would ever want to play Support, really. They're weaker slower DPS with more responsibilities. Also fewer heroes. I think the Zen and Mercy hilarious buffs were possibly a good step: buffs so big, that you just smile when you see them.

Blizz Communication: Every week during the beta, they gave us a big write-up post about how the beta's going, what they're concerned about, what they're working on, etc, and it was freaking amazing.

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Then when I play attack I feel like my guns are shooting peanuts half of the time. I just played a game where I hit Moira with 4 point blank Reaper shots and her health did not drop. I did not miss those shots and I saw them all connect and she just skittered away.

Yeah there are definitely some forgotten DPS heroes that are just brokenly bad, and I think Reaper is the main one. He just does 0 damage, even when you're pretty close!

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Metal_DK
05/16/22 10:51:25 PM
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Zenyatta felt OPed when i played him because I usually sucked in OW1 and was doing pretty well with him in 2.

The few tanks I played Orisa definitely was the best. Sigma still I thought was pretty good. Hog's changes I think were buffs to him too. Rein felt a bit less useful, Ball I sucked in OW1 with not sure if he's good in 2. His playstyle in a 1 tank game makes me think hes still needing a purpose.

Ana still my gal tho, clutch as fuck grenades all day.

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JonThePenguin
05/17/22 2:33:39 PM
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https://twitter.com/playoverwatch/status/1526631446416433153

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tcaz2
05/17/22 2:38:16 PM
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It's still Overwatch

So it's still bad
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Aecioo
05/17/22 2:44:19 PM
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I really enjoyed it and I think the 5v5 is great.

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05/17/22 4:38:30 PM
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I cant find a good list of what changes have been made to each character since the beta started.

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Grand Kirby
05/17/22 5:21:19 PM
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I cant find a good list of what changes have been made to each character since the beta started.
The patch notes are here:

https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/news/patch-notes/beta/

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05/17/22 5:35:30 PM
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Grand Kirby posted...
The patch notes are here:

https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/news/patch-notes/beta/
Does this include every change from the first game?

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Grand Kirby
05/17/22 5:45:28 PM
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Does this include every change from the first game?
Going into OW2? The April patch notes should cover it.

https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/news/patch-notes/beta/2022/04

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05/17/22 8:06:33 PM
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Thanks.

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