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mnkboy907 06/18/22 12:57:56 PM #303: |
Doctor Strange in 2 days! --- Change is weird. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IfGodCouldDie 06/18/22 1:01:25 PM #304: |
mnkboy907 posted... Doctor Strange in 2 days!Oh yea thats definitely going to get a rewatch or two. --- All posters and events depicted in this post are entirely fictitious. Any similarity to actual events or posters, living or dead, is purely coincidental. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IfGodCouldDie 06/18/22 1:19:45 PM #306: |
UltimaterializerX posted... Wait seriously? That is the actual best news.I can't speak for outside Canada, but I turned on D+ last night to fall asleep to IASIP and they had all 5 of them listed. Unfortunately the Holland ones aren't there yet. --- All posters and events depicted in this post are entirely fictitious. Any similarity to actual events or posters, living or dead, is purely coincidental. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IfGodCouldDie 06/18/22 1:26:17 PM #308: |
Nice. --- All posters and events depicted in this post are entirely fictitious. Any similarity to actual events or posters, living or dead, is purely coincidental. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mnkboy907 06/18/22 4:01:11 PM #309: |
So in regards to MoM, my partner's co-worker told him --- Change is weird. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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skullbone 06/18/22 4:06:52 PM #310: |
You really don't need to watch any episodes of What If. Watching Wandavision is a little more important. --- skull ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mnkboy907 06/18/22 4:07:56 PM #311: |
Yeah, he's seen everything else besides the one I spoilered. --- Change is weird. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CassandraCain 06/18/22 4:26:18 PM #312: |
You definitely don't need to see any What If eps, I'm not sure why some people think it's necessary. Even Wandavision isn't absolutely required to watch first. --- I don't kill... but I don't lose either. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NewerShadow 06/18/22 4:42:23 PM #313: |
CassandraCain posted... Even Wandavision isn't absolutely required to watch first.Having sped through WandaVision the day before I saw MoM, I strongly disagree with this! I think you'd probably be confused if you went straight from Infinity War/Endgame to MoM. I still haven't watched What If though, and I don't think I really missed out on anything there. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GuessHerUsrName 06/18/22 4:43:16 PM #314: |
What If's definitely not mandatory viewing for MoM at all. WandaVision is definitely involved but not really What If which is a largely tangential. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 06/18/22 4:43:19 PM #315: |
Yeah, WandaVision seems pretty important. What If not at all. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CassandraCain 06/18/22 4:51:40 PM #316: |
WandaVision leads into the movie, and it is recommended. But the only info you really need before watching the movie is "Wanda went through some shit, now she's a little unhinged." The movie would still make perfect sense, you'd just be missing some details. And I would also say you don't even need to watch all the episodes to get those details, most of it's in the final episode. Also please don't misinterpret this as me saying DON'T watch it, I still highly recommend WandaVision as it's still the best of the MCU shows. My only point is that it's not 100% required to understand MoM. --- I don't kill... but I don't lose either. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 06/18/22 5:26:56 PM #317: |
I think the thing with WandaVision is that it feels pretty important to know why she's so unhinged, what she's been doing, and why she's been doing it. The movie would "make sense" on the surface without it, but you're missing a lot of key details that will probably pop up later. So I do agree it's not 100% required to understand MoM on a surface level, but you'd be missing a looot of context that will probably come up later. It's like watching a sport with only the knowledge of "they're trying to score points." You can understand it and enjoy it as is, but you're not gonna know the rules, which may become super important at certain times. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Grand Kirby 06/18/22 5:42:38 PM #318: |
Wandavision kind of makes MoM make LESS sense if you watch it. --- Okay, I rolled a 14. What's that mean? Hsu That you're a cheater. This is a 12-sided die. Chan ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FFDragon 06/18/22 5:45:09 PM #319: |
You mean all of that goes out the window in the post-credits scene of Wandavision. She was fine until she realized she could still get --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 06/18/22 5:47:39 PM #320: |
FFDragon posted... You mean all of that goes out the window in the post-credits scene of Wandavision. She was fine until she realized she could still get Yeah, this. The post-credits scene makes it all make sense. And the post-credits scene needs the whole series to work. Hence why the series in general is important. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mnkboy907 06/18/22 6:22:16 PM #321: |
I've hoodwinked myself, MoM is 4 days away. ;_; --- Change is weird. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GuessMyUserName 06/18/22 7:46:40 PM #322: |
Wanda was never fine in WV, [MoM] --- I request affiliated many pipes. Been a bad girl, I know I am. And I'm so hot, I need a fan. I don't want a boy, I need a man. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IfGodCouldDie 06/18/22 7:48:38 PM #323: |
GuessMyUserName posted... Wanda was never fine in WV,This is the whole thing, people were all like, how can they just let Wanda go, when in actuality what the fuck is anyone going to do to stop her? --- All posters and events depicted in this post are entirely fictitious. Any similarity to actual events or posters, living or dead, is purely coincidental. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 06/18/22 8:03:25 PM #324: |
Yeah, I always felt that --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HanOfTheNekos 06/18/22 8:25:26 PM #325: |
WandaVision is important because without watching it, you have no idea of what her motives are, considering her --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 06/18/22 9:38:54 PM #327: |
UltimaterializerX posted... For the 58th time, Wanda is not a villain until she starts reading the Darkhold, aka the actual villain. Wanda was --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scarletspeed7 06/18/22 9:39:39 PM #328: |
Hal Jordan was still a villain regardless if Parallax was controlling him. --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IfGodCouldDie 06/18/22 9:41:39 PM #329: |
StealThisSheen posted... Wanda wasI'll have to rewatch the last episode but I am pretty confident I remember her not realizing she was doing that and then struggled with deciding to let them go or not because it was basically a choice between her family and strangers --- All posters and events depicted in this post are entirely fictitious. Any similarity to actual events or posters, living or dead, is purely coincidental. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 06/18/22 9:43:52 PM #330: |
IfGodCouldDie posted... I'll have to rewatch the last episode but I am pretty confident I remember her not realizing she was doing that and then struggled with deciding to let them go or not because it was basically a choice between her family and strangers The last episode is less about --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 06/18/22 9:51:34 PM #331: |
Like, basically, there is no implication that --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Murphiroth 06/18/22 10:13:09 PM #332: |
Wanda ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bane_Of_Despair 06/18/22 10:21:20 PM #333: |
It's true, watching WandaVision helps in seeing that her journey through that is --- You were the cancer, that's all you'll ever be I really messed up this contest, but azuarc gave it a Breath of fresh air ... Copied to Clipboard!
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redrocket 06/18/22 10:24:17 PM #334: |
Bane_Of_Despair posted... It's true, watching WandaVision helps in seeing that her journey through that is I mean, I feel like thats a realistic direction for her arc to go in considering her rapidly deteriorating mental health. --- It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bane_Of_Despair 06/18/22 10:25:13 PM #335: |
Like I said I get what they were going for I just don't think it was done particularly well until the reckoning at the end which was alright --- You were the cancer, that's all you'll ever be I really messed up this contest, but azuarc gave it a Breath of fresh air ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bane_Of_Despair 06/18/22 10:25:47 PM #336: |
MoM was not a good movie for many reasons other than Wanda for me though --- You were the cancer, that's all you'll ever be I really messed up this contest, but azuarc gave it a Breath of fresh air ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NewerShadow 06/19/22 12:15:01 AM #337: |
Now that MoM is getting closer to home release, I want to do a brain dump of my thoughts on phase 4 as a whole. I don't really follow a whole lot of the Discourse on marvel stuff (outside this topic, on and off) so these might be mildly hot takes but they've been smoldering inside me for a while and I'd like to get them out of my head. Non-specific spoilers for all of phase 4, including Multiverse of Madness, ahead. Movies: Disney+: Commonalities: Caveats: Between the Delta and Omicron (and whatever we're on now) waves of Covid, and overall dissatisfaction with my job, my opinions might be biased by being on edge and just not in a great mood, both being in a public theater, and in general. That's kind of why I want to post this just as a (partly literal) sanity check - if other people have similar opinions, or if I just need to take a break from watching Marvel shows/movies if they just aren't going to land for me any more. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheRock1525 06/19/22 1:12:23 AM #338: |
I watched MoM without Wandavision and still loved MoM. --- TheRock ~ I had a name, my father called me Blues. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr Lasastryke 06/19/22 5:56:34 AM #339: |
NewerShadow posted... Caveats: Between the Delta and Omicron (and whatever we're on now) waves of Covid, and overall dissatisfaction with my job, my opinions might be biased by being on edge and just not in a great mood, both being in a public theater, and in general. That's kind of why I want to post this just as a (partly literal) sanity check - if other people have similar opinions, or if I just need to take a break from watching Marvel shows/movies if they just aren't going to land for me any more. in response to your comments on the TV shows (haven't seen MoM yet and i'm avoiding spoilers for it): aside from your view on wandavision (which i really liked), i pretty much agree with your non-positive opinions. falcon & winter soldier was meh and what if was so uneven that i'm still not sure if it was a good show overall (it probably wasn't, really). haven't seen ms. marvel yet but the positive reception seems to just be a board 8 thing; it has a 6.2 on IMDb right now. that's... actually pretty terrible, considering how generous IMDb scores are. for comparison's sake, the phantom menace has a 6.5. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 06/19/22 5:59:51 AM #340: |
Mr Lasastryke posted... in response to your comments on the TV shows (haven't seen MoM yet and i'm avoiding spoilers for it): aside from your view on wandavision (which i really liked), i pretty much agree with your non-positive opinions. falcon & winter soldier was meh and what if was so uneven that i'm still not sure if it was a good show overall (it probably wasn't, really). Aren't IMDb scores just user scores, susceptible to being review bombed like anything else? Which, given that 28.5% of the scores are 1s, is probably happening here. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr Lasastryke 06/19/22 6:04:50 AM #341: |
it's possible, though i don't think IMDb has ever fully explained how the scores are generated. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 06/19/22 6:06:30 AM #342: |
Mr Lasastryke posted... it's possible, though i don't think IMDb has ever fully explained how the scores are generated. Yes it does, unless I'm looking somewhere else? It's user ratings. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120915/ratings/?ref_=tt_ov_rt https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10857164/ratings/?ref_=tt_ov_rt Lightyear was also review bombed. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10298810/ratings/ --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 06/19/22 6:11:01 AM #343: |
Oh, you mean they don't disclose how their weighted system works. While that's true, it still all comes from user scores, and the charts show when obvious review bombing occurs. They don't seem to try to stop it, as it was happening to Lightyear before it was even released. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr Lasastryke 06/19/22 6:12:17 AM #344: |
i know it's user ratings but it's not entirely clear how those ratings are converted into scores, according to wikipedia: IMDb indicates that submitted ratings are filtered and weighted in various ways to produce a weighted mean that is displayed for each film, series, and so on. It states that filters are used to avoid ballot stuffing; the method is not described in detail to avoid attempts to circumvent it. ...anyway, yeah, wikipedia also states ms. marvel was indeed review bombed, so disregard my comments on that. you'd think a site as huge as IMDb would have more trustworthy scores! --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr Lasastryke 06/19/22 6:13:25 AM #345: |
StealThisSheen posted... Oh, you mean they don't disclose how their weighted system works. yeah, that's what i meant. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 06/19/22 6:13:50 AM #346: |
Yeah, while we don't know how they weigh them for the actual average score, they do show the raw numbers of scores, which is where you can tell when bombing is occurring. And whenever you see blatant bombing (thousands of 1s), you can also likely bet there are people purposely giving other low scores to try to circumvent the system, thus it's just not reliable. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FFDragon 06/19/22 11:44:19 AM #347: |
https://comicbookmovie.com/tv/marvel/ms_marvel/ms-marvel-scores-lowest-5-day-viewership-of-any-mcu-disney-series-so-far-a194368 Oof --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scarletspeed7 06/19/22 11:55:01 AM #348: |
So I've seen a lot of information about review bombing or intentional upvoting - IMDb has had a lot of experience with this, which started back in 2008 when The Dark Knight was actually dealing with a flood-in of scoring after it overtook Shawshank in the #1 position briefly. Since then, there has been a system put in place that takes into account the number of reviews, the amount of activity, and the spread of activity over time to weight scores, supposedly. So when a movie like Lightyear gets review-bombed for... I have no idea what, honestly, the heavy low 1-ratings are usually removed because they come from accounts that were filled with few reviews in the first place. The written reviews I see of Ms. Marvel on IMDb are mostly in the 6-8 range, so I have to assume the one-stars are generally racist in nature? --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HashtagSEP 06/19/22 12:06:13 PM #349: |
Lightyear has two gay characters kiss. Ms. Marvels appears to be racial in nature, yes. --- #SEP #Awesome #Excellent #Greatness #SteveNash #VitaminWater #SmellingLikeTheVault #Pigeon #Sexy #ActuallyAVeryIntelligentVelociraptor #Heel #CoolSpot #EndOfSig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scarletspeed7 06/19/22 12:09:46 PM #350: |
I'll admit, I don't say on top of whatever the dialogue is surrounding these things, but I have been trending a little negatively on D+ Marvel shows as of late, so I could see myself potentially scoring Ms. Marvel in that range - but I also score an average film at a 5 or 6 on IMDb when I rate something. --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful ... Copied to Clipboard!
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swordz9 06/19/22 12:25:01 PM #352: |
A lot of Disney Pixar stuff lately seems to be getting reviewed bombed because people are pathetic and the internet gives them easy access to voice stuff. Oh no same sex kisses, couples or non-white women in a show hang on my fragile existence cant handle this I gotta go write a 1 star review somewhere ... Copied to Clipboard!
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