Poll of the Day > Do you know a lot of pro life people?

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CedarPointcp
05/11/22 3:36:29 PM
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for any of you, are most of the people you know, pro life?
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SmugRickMoranis
05/11/22 3:46:39 PM
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Pro-life as it pertains to abortion is a misnomer. Anti-abortion is more apropos

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VampireCoyote
05/11/22 3:49:25 PM
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Probably. I dunno I dont like talking to any of the people.

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LinkPizza
05/11/22 4:12:46 PM
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I know some

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Lokarin
05/11/22 5:34:22 PM
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CedarPointcp posted...
for any of you, are most of the people you know, pro life?

Aside from my cousin who is a hyper-sjw, everyone I know aside from myself is entirely apolitical... they just don't care.

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Zareth
05/11/22 5:37:30 PM
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My mom is against abortion personally but she understands why it needs to be legal. Like most reasonable Catholic people.

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TheFalseDeity
05/11/22 5:43:16 PM
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Most of the people i know are pro life yes. I live in a tiny town in Texas though so its to be expected.

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adjl
05/11/22 5:52:16 PM
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Lokarin posted...
Aside from my cousin who is a hyper-sjw, everyone I know aside from myself is entirely apolitical... they just don't care.

Everyone that ever intends to have heterosexual sex should have at least some opinion on abortion, at least as far as their personal inclinations go. Unless you're totally abstinent, it's an issue that everyone has some chance of facing at some point, and it's much better to consider it beforehand (and discuss that decision with one's partner) than to have to make a decision under pressure.

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Kotenks
05/11/22 6:11:06 PM
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I'm probably the one person in my circle. Most people I know lean to the left. It's not an issue that comes up very often so i don't know where my friends stand. I remember one conversation a friend way back at a party,when I was first questioning my pro-choice stance. We talked about human life and why it's wrong to kill. What makes a person? I should talk to him about it next time we meet as we had a good political discussion on illegal immigration, student loan debt, and policing the last time we talked.

My mother is probably the closest. We had a conversation on the topic. She talked about her two tough pregnancies between me and my sibling. Her miscarriage that she'd never shared before. She saw abortion as morally wrong. She saw it as taking an innocent life and doesn't think it ought to be done. She has also been voting Dem since being able to vote and that party's stance is in the opposite direction. So she might be more of that "prolife but only for me" pro-choicers or perhaps more favoring Bill Clinton's "safe, legal and rare."

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Lokarin
05/11/22 6:20:41 PM
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adjl posted...
Everyone that ever intends to have heterosexual sex should have at least some opinion on abortion, at least as far as their personal inclinations go. Unless you're totally abstinent, it's an issue that everyone has some chance of facing at some point, and it's much better to consider it beforehand (and discuss that decision with one's partner) than to have to make a decision under pressure.

The position that my family has is "I don't care what other people do" and "if I want one I'm getting one whether it legal or not"

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Gaawa_chan
05/11/22 6:25:14 PM
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I know a few, sure. I don't associate with them; my right to life-saving medical care would not be superseded by a fetus' right to my body to any real friend.

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Judgmenl
05/11/22 7:55:52 PM
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I don't really talk to people about these kind of poltical issues.

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The_Viscount
05/11/22 8:51:08 PM
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Define "a lot." Otherwise it's not something that comes up in conversation, so they'd need to randomly volunteer it.

SmugRickMoranis posted...
Pro-life as it pertains to abortion is a misnomer. Anti-abortion is more apropos

All of your arguments are misnomers. Trolling is more apropos.

adjl posted...
Everyone that ever intends to have heterosexual sex

Guessing like Bill Clinton, you don't consider oral sex >_>

adjl posted...
Everyone that ever intends to have heterosexual sex should have at least some opinion on abortion, at least as far as their personal inclinations go. Unless you're totally abstinent, it's an issue that everyone has some chance of facing at some point, and it's much better to consider it beforehand (and discuss that decision with one's partner) than to have to make a decision under pressure.

"A chance" is largely exaggerated. The kinds of women who'd lie about being on birth control are the same kind who'd lie about their opinions on abortion... and are the same kind who might dig through the trash for a used condom.


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VampireCoyote
05/11/22 8:53:14 PM
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a lot = more than three

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KJ StErOiDs
05/11/22 11:25:06 PM
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I imagine so, but it's never been a topic of conversation.

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Far-Queue
05/11/22 11:34:50 PM
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The_Viscount posted...
All of your arguments are misnomers. Trolling is more apropos.
Great job not countering my point and taking a limp swing at an insult I guess

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Jesserae
05/11/22 11:40:43 PM
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I'm pro-choice but can't fucking stand the disgusting people who play down a fetus as not human and photoshop a fetus on to a piece of sushi (I saw this earlier today on twitter) and other outrageous disrespectful nonsense.
If the issue is medical I will always support, if the pregnancy is safe and you can provide a good life for child you should keep it, if you're dead broke, in a terrible and abusive relationship or other circumstance that would heavily detriment a child's life and future then abortion might be your best option, I see it similarly to euthanasia, if your offing yourself due to a temporary problem I don't support you, if your doing it due to a debilitating condition that will only worsen then I fully support the decision.

Most people I know are of a similar opinion, screeching no abortion ever is ridiculous, but offering abortions at a Mcdonalds drive through with a large coke and side of chips (which seems to be the level of significance many leftists place on abortion) is far more ridiculous.

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Revelation34
05/12/22 1:38:58 AM
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Jesserae posted...
I'm pro-choice but can't fucking stand the disgusting people who play down a fetus as not human and photoshop a fetus on to a piece of sushi (I saw this earlier today on twitter) and other outrageous disrespectful nonsense.
If the issue is medical I will always support, if the pregnancy is safe and you can provide a good life for child you should keep it, if you're dead broke, in a terrible and abusive relationship or other circumstance that would heavily detriment a child's life and future then abortion might be your best option, I see it similarly to euthanasia, if your offing yourself due to a temporary problem I don't support you, if your doing it due to a debilitating condition that will only worsen then I fully support the decision.

Most people I know are of a similar opinion, screeching no abortion ever is ridiculous, but offering abortions at a Mcdonalds drive through with a large coke and side of chips (which seems to be the level of significance many leftists place on abortion) is far more ridiculous.


Literally nobody believes this.

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Jesserae
05/12/22 1:50:49 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
Literally nobody believes this.
That's obviously not meant literally, it's the level of significance that a great deal of people seem to place on abortion, it's like going to the drive through, a simple convenience. It's a life and yet there are 1000's of barbaric twitter posts and tiktok video's of "GUNNA BORT THIS TATO LOL :)" with a million comments "YAS SLAY QUEEEN"

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Flappers
05/12/22 2:00:18 AM
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Literally nobody.

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Revelation34
05/12/22 2:02:32 AM
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Jesserae posted...

That's obviously not meant literally, it's the level of significance that a great deal of people seem to place on abortion, it's like going to the drive through, a simple convenience. It's a life and yet there are 1000's of barbaric twitter posts and tiktok video's of "GUNNA BORT THIS TATO LOL :)" with a million comments "YAS SLAY QUEEEN"


Maybe if people wouldn't try to force women having babies those videos wouldn't exist.

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Jesserae
05/12/22 2:09:42 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
Maybe if people wouldn't try to force women having babies those videos wouldn't exist.

No one's forcing them to have a baby, hence the nonchalant posts and video's bragging about their abortions, an abortion they can get so easily that it's like going to the drive through and that's exactly how it's treated.

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BlackScythe0
05/12/22 2:13:20 AM
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Prolife people are quite rare, I know a ton of anti-choice people who talk about how abortion is murder then go on rants about all the various people, like politicians and celebrities, they aren't pro-life about.
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Revelation34
05/12/22 2:13:30 AM
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Jesserae posted...


No one's forcing them to have a baby, hence the nonchalant posts and video's bragging about their abortions, an abortion they can get so easily that it's like going to the drive through and that's exactly how it's treated.


The posts are made to mock the people trying to force them to have a baby.

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Jesserae
05/12/22 2:19:50 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
The posts are made to mock the people trying to force them to have a baby.
No they aren't, you know that, they are shared to leftist echo chambers and they've been posted far longer than roe v wade has been the hot topic.

Also killing a baby to mock conservatives?, what the fuck ?, that's literally 100x worse.

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VampireCoyote
05/12/22 3:01:41 AM
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Jesserae posted...
No they aren't, you know that, they are shared to leftist echo chambers and they've been posted far longer than roe v wade has been the hot topic.

As someone that spends a lot of time chilling in leftist echo chambers, you are hilariously incorrect about what goes on in them. Why would leftists need to convince other leftists that making abortion difficult is bad??? At least think a second before you post

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Jesserae
05/12/22 3:17:21 AM
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VampireCoyote posted...
As someone that spends a lot of time chilling in leftist echo chambers, you are hilariously incorrect about what goes on in them. Why would leftists need to convince other leftists that making abortion difficult is bad??? At least think a second before you post

its mostly kink shit
Considering the posts I'm talking about pre-date roe v wade (being the topic of the week, sorry Ukraine) which I mentioned, and are posted to groups that positively reinforce the behaviour maybe you should read before post. I also dwell leftists echochambers, poll of the day is exactly that.

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VampireCoyote
05/12/22 4:10:14 AM
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Jesserae posted...
Considering the posts I'm talking about pre-date roe v wade (being the topic of the week, sorry Ukraine) which I mentioned, and are posted to groups that positively reinforce the behaviour maybe you should read before post. I also dwell leftists echochambers, poll of the day is exactly that.

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Jesserae
05/12/22 4:18:36 AM
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VampireCoyote posted...
bless your heart
Standard poll of the day front page nonsense https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/80017186
There aren't even any right wingers in the thread it's literally a leftwing echochamber screeching muh right wing LOLOLOL, on top of which they've chosen the most ridiculous position a very small minority of conservatives have taken on the vaccine and are pretending that's literally everyone against it.

Right wing opinions get censored by leftist gfaqs mods, hell they even come out of the wood work to protect lefties losing arguments, I'm surprised they haven't done that for you and rev yet.

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VampireCoyote
05/12/22 4:37:00 AM
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Jesserae posted...
Standard poll of the day front page nonsense https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/80017186
There aren't even any right wingers in the thread it's literally a leftwing echochamber screeching muh right wing LOLOLOL, on top of which they've chosen the most ridiculous position a very small minority of conservatives have taken on the vaccine and are pretending that's literally everyone against it.

Right wing opinions get censored by leftist gfaqs mods, hell they even come out of the woord work to protect lefties losing arguments, I'm surprised they haven't done that for you and rev yet.

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Jesserae
05/12/22 4:39:36 AM
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VampireCoyote posted...
bless your viscously oppressed heart
Nice concession.


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VampireCoyote
05/12/22 4:40:45 AM
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Jesserae posted...
Nice concession.

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SKARDAVNELNATE
05/12/22 9:09:56 AM
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I do not know anyone's position on the issue. It is not that significant that anyone talks about it.

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adjl
05/12/22 9:46:55 AM
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The_Viscount posted...
Guessing like Bill Clinton, you don't consider oral sex >_>

I'd consider it "sexual relations," but when colloquially talking about sex, I generally mean intercourse. In this particular case, there aren't very many heterosexual people that only intend to have oral sex indefinitely without ever escalating to intercourse, so I would say it's fairly safe to assume that equivalency goes without saying.

The_Viscount posted...
"A chance" is largely exaggerated.

It's enough of a chance that everyone should plan for it. Most will never actually have to act on that plan (provided they take appropriate contraceptive measures, which they should), but the odds are higher than many people realize. IUD's (the most effective non-permanent option) have about a 0.5% failure rate per year, so over the course of ~40 years of fertility (assuming sexual activity for that full range, which isn't unreasonable), you're looking at a ~18.2% chance to see a pregnancy happen. In practice, there's often a ~10-year window in that period where people do want to have kids and after which permanent sterilization becomes a plausible option (though even that's not foolproof), so those odds rarely stay that consistent for that full time frame, and that effectiveness rate is a population measure and treating it as an individual probability isn't quite right (that is, 0.5% of sexually active individuals with IUD's will become pregnant each year, not each individual has a 0.5% chance to get pregnant per year), but that's still a non-trivial chance.

Again, will it happen to everyone? No. Will it happen to enough people that everyone should plan for it? Absolutely, especially given how straightforward that planning process is.

The_Viscount posted...
The kinds of women who'd lie about being on birth control are the same kind who'd lie about their opinions on abortion... and are the same kind who might dig through the trash for a used condom.

That's exceedingly uncommon and not particularly relevant to the issue at hand. I'm not sure where your intense, blanket distrust of women comes from, but it really doesn't seem very healthy.

Jesserae posted...
Right wing opinions get censored by leftist gfaqs mods,

Not really. The only opinions that get censored get censored on the basis of being terrible opinions that nobody should have, not on the basis of their political leanings (e.g. you getting warned for insisting that the Covid vaccines were dangerous and there's a grand conspiracy to cover that up: that's not a "right-wing opinion," that's just plain dangerous misinformation). It turns out that a lot of such deplorable opinions are associated with the right wing, but that's largely coincidental.

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VampireCoyote
05/12/22 9:50:44 AM
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Is Zeus again arguing that oral sex will make you pregnant

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adjl
05/12/22 9:55:01 AM
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VampireCoyote posted...
Is Zeus again arguing that oral sex will make you pregnant

Nope. He's saying "'intends to have heterosexual sex' can still include oral sex, which has no risk of pregnancy." That's correct, but that particular bit of pedantry ignores the colloquial interpretation of the term "having sex," and therefore isn't overly appropriate as a response to what I said.

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Revelation34
05/12/22 3:39:04 PM
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Jesserae posted...

No they aren't, you know that, they are shared to leftist echo chambers and they've been posted far longer than roe v wade has been the hot topic.

Also killing a baby to mock conservatives?, what the fuck ?, that's literally 100x worse.


No I know exactly what happens. Also that doesn't happen.

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wwinterj25
05/12/22 4:19:32 PM
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I'll be honest it isn't a question I ask people I know. I also don't ask their sexuality, religious beliefs and certainly not political. If they tell me that's fine but it's not a big deal to me and achieves nothing getting into a conversation about it for me. Nobody has told me their stance on it too outside of internet discord.

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Jesserae
05/12/22 10:42:27 PM
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adjl posted...
Not really. The only opinions that get censored get censored on the basis of being terrible opinions that nobody should have, not on the basis of their political leanings (e.g. you getting warned for insisting that the Covid vaccines were dangerous and there's a grand conspiracy to cover that up: that's not a "right-wing opinion," that's just plain dangerous misinformation). It turns out that a lot of such deplorable opinions are associated with the right wing, but that's largely coincidental.
Vaccine doesn't stop you from getting it, doesn't stop you from spreading it, so why are they running on a narrative of getting vaccinated to protect others? clearly only those who are considered at risk should need it "if" it reduces symptom severity. 0.1% death rate in under 60's over 75% of those 0.1% had chronic pre-existing conditions (Aus stats), billionaires experience record wealth growth while middle class experiences record losses, 2012 death per thousand people all cause mortality 7.743, 2021 in the middle of the "Worst" pandemic in 100 years all cause mortality 7.645.

There are 101 reasons to be asking questions, the shady history of pfizer, moderna and J&J only compound people's distrust further, transparency is key to trust and here pfizer is trying to hide all it's data for 75 years so the people affected are fucking dead before they can learn the truth, why would they do that?

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Metalsonic66
05/12/22 10:45:08 PM
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Jesserae posted...
Vaccine doesn't stop you from getting it, doesn't stop you from spreading it, so why are they running on a narrative of getting vaccinated to protect others?
Because it reduces the likelyhood and severity? Not sure if trolling or just incredibly ignorant

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Jesserae
05/12/22 10:50:13 PM
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Metalsonic66 posted...
Because it reduces the likelyhood and severity? Not sure if trolling or just incredibly ignorant
Clinical trials and real world data show that COVID-19 vaccines are highly effective to prevent severe illness with COVID-19. For example, data from the United Kingdom shows that these vaccines also significantly reduce the risk of severe COVID-19, including hospitalisation and death, in older adults.

For those already in a high risk category. why exactly would we want to reduce transmission in low risk groups when natural immunity has been proven so effective? seems like a better option then locking down the whole world over and over and over. Vaccination and isolation for the high risk, living a normal life for the rest of us.

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/968553

Not going to acknowledge that the morality rates fell from 2012 during the worst Pandemic in 100 years?

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Nichtcrawler X
05/12/22 10:56:54 PM
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Jesserae posted...
I also dwell leftists echochambers, poll of the day is exactly that.

No, not really. Sure, I am here, but for the most part, PotD, like any other predominately American community, does not reach that far left.

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Metalsonic66
05/12/22 10:57:18 PM
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Jesserae posted...
For those already in a high risk category. why exactly would we want to reduce transmission in low risk groups when natural immunity has been proven so effective?
Oh, so
Metalsonic66 posted...
just incredibly ignorant


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Jesserae
05/12/22 11:00:59 PM
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Metalsonic66 posted...
Oh, so
We already know Covid is likely going to become endemic, it's not going anywhere and the available information we have shows natural immunity is as good and in some cases better then the vaccine (I've linked an article to an Israeli study already).

Still no acknowledgment or explanation to the reduced global mortality compared to the last decade?, even though we are apparently living through a deadly pandemic, the worst in 100 years.

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Jesserae
05/12/22 11:09:30 PM
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Nichtcrawler X posted...
No, not really. Sure, I am here, but for the most part, PotD, like any other predominately American community, does not reach that far left.
$350 million in damages from far left "peaceful protests" in Minneapolis alone, 140 cities participated in these "peaceful protests", I think 25 people that died as a result wouldn't exactly call them peaceful. The far left in America is larger than the entire population of my country.

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Nichtcrawler X
05/12/22 11:11:42 PM
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As a non-American, I am going to need details, not random numbers.

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The_Viscount
05/12/22 11:12:04 PM
#47:


Far-Queue posted...
Great job not countering my point and taking a limp swing at an insult I guess

So that's you troll alt? Anyway, you'd have to make a point before somebody could counter it.

BlackScythe0 posted...
Prolife people are quite rare, I know a ton of anti-choice people who talk about how abortion is murder then go on rants about all the various people, like politicians and celebrities, they aren't pro-life about.

What?

adjl posted...
It's enough of a chance that everyone should plan for it. Most will never actually have to act on that plan (provided they take appropriate contraceptive measures, which they should), but the odds are higher than many people realize. IUD's (the most effective non-permanent option) have about a 0.5% failure rate per year, so over the course of ~40 years of fertility (assuming sexual activity for that full range, which isn't unreasonable), you're looking at a ~18.2% chance to see a pregnancy happen. In practice, there's often a ~10-year window in that period where people do want to have kids and after which permanent sterilization becomes a plausible option (though even that's not foolproof), so those odds rarely stay that consistent for that full time frame, and that effectiveness rate is a population measure and treating it as an individual probability isn't quite right (that is, 0.5% of sexually active individuals with IUD's will become pregnant each year, not each individual has a 0.5% chance to get pregnant per year), but that's still a non-trivial chance.

Again, will it happen to everyone? No. Will it happen to enough people that everyone should plan for it? Absolutely, especially given how straightforward that planning process is.

The odds of a woman filing a false police report against you as part of a constructive eviction (or a retaliatory effort) are generally far higher than an unplanned pregnancy where precautions are actually being taken (rather than just claiming they're being taken). Especially because some police officers and other people within the system suggest it as a course of action


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The_Viscount
05/12/22 11:13:17 PM
#48:


Nichtcrawler X posted...
No, not really. Sure, I am here, but for the most part, PotD, like any other predominately American community, does not reach that far left.

...he says while ignoring Bernie Sanders and Andrew Yang were overwhelmingly PotD's candidates of choice despite both politicians advocating policies to the left of Sweden.

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Revelation34
05/13/22 5:59:16 AM
#49:


The_Viscount posted...


...he says while ignoring Bernie Sanders and Andrew Yang were overwhelmingly PotD's candidates of choice despite both politicians advocating policies to the left of Sweden.


Why were they campaigning in Norway?

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VampireCoyote
05/13/22 6:03:25 AM
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The_Viscount posted...
...he says while ignoring Bernie Sanders and Andrew Yang were overwhelmingly PotD's candidates of choice

ok now youre just making up more bullshit again


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