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AngelsNAirwav3s
06/29/22 1:30:41 PM
#301:


I'm thinking of buying into GUSH, it is all the way down to $135 right now, and I see no reason why it shouldn't be back up to $250 soon, especially once oil and gas companies report record earnings again in July/August.

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Dat_Cracka_Jax
07/01/22 10:00:49 AM
#302:


Bump

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07/01/22 10:02:24 AM
#303:


What's the word today?
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Blue_Thunder
07/01/22 10:24:33 AM
#304:


Cocytus posted...
What's the word today?

Ream.

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lilORANG
07/01/22 10:25:04 AM
#305:


Today is the day we make back all our money!

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Alexanaxela
07/01/22 12:07:34 PM
#306:


im ready!

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Lebronwon
07/01/22 2:11:49 PM
#307:


https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1542932856367943682

Blowing past the margin of error at this point.

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Cocytus
07/02/22 12:05:41 PM
#308:


So what do you guys think is the Top 10 stocks to buy atm?
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littlebro07
07/02/22 12:07:37 PM
#309:


Cocytus posted...
So what do you guys think is the Top 10 stocks to buy atm?

ENZC

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Cocytus
07/02/22 12:11:58 PM
#310:


littlebro07 posted...
ENZC

lol
I did ok this past couple days on commodities.
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Mearcstapa
07/02/22 12:13:38 PM
#311:


Cocytus posted...
So what do you guys think is the Top 10 stocks to buy atm?

  1. Cash
  2. Cash
  3. Cash
  4. Cash
  5. Cash
  6. Cash
  7. Cash
  8. Cash
  9. Cash
  10. Cash

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Cokewave
07/02/22 12:47:43 PM
#312:


Cocytus posted...
So what do you guys think is the Top 10 stocks to buy atm?
buy a 1-year treasury bill and then ask again when it expires

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Billyionaire
07/02/22 1:07:21 PM
#313:


Investing in ENZC reminds me of Shaun of the Dead. World's literally coming to an end but let's just "have a cup of tea and wait for this whole thing to blow over".

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littlebro07
07/02/22 3:04:13 PM
#314:


I still have all my shares but I havent been following it religiously anymore

Still no audit and still cant buy IPF lmao

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__aCEr__
07/02/22 3:22:36 PM
#315:


I think it's becoming more and more likely that Enzolytics is just complete bullshit and probably even downright fraud.

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littlebro07
07/02/22 3:25:50 PM
#316:


__aCEr__ posted...
I think it's becoming more and more likely that Enzolytics is just complete bullshit and probably even downright fraud.

Only things giving me even a slight amount of confidence in it is that Samsung partnered with them to produce their antibodies, and some doctor with ties to Regeneron joined their advisory board and regularly tags them on LinkedIn

So theres gotta be at least some legitimacy to it, or theyre just really damn good at scamming people lol

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Makeveli_lives
07/02/22 3:30:51 PM
#317:


littlebro07 posted...
Only things giving me even a slight amount of confidence in it is that Samsung partnered with them to produce their antibodies, and some doctor with ties to Regeneron joined their advisory board and regularly tags them on LinkedIn

So theres gotta be at least some legitimacy to it, or theyre just really damn good at scamming people lol
Theyre fully funded for 2 years bro

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Cocytus
07/03/22 8:38:32 PM
#318:


Mearcstapa posted...
1. Cash
2. Cash
3. Cash
4. Cash
5. Cash
6. Cash
7. Cash
8. Cash
9. Cash
10. Cash
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Cocytus
07/03/22 8:39:53 PM
#319:


Cokewave posted...
buy a 1-year treasury bill and then ask again when it expires
I actually bought a 5 and a 10 yr.
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AlCalavicci
07/03/22 8:41:17 PM
#320:


Can someone explain to me i series bonds?

Thinking about putting 10k into them because they have like a 9.62% rate right now but I'm trying to figure out how to calculate how much that will actually accrue me in interest if I stick with it for 1-5 years

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Cocytus
07/03/22 8:43:46 PM
#321:


AlCalavicci posted...
Can someone explain to me i series bonds?

Thinking about putting 10k into them because they have like a 9.62% rate right now but I'm trying to figure out how to calculate how much that will actually accrue me in interest if I stick with it for 1-5 years

https://www.treasurydirect.gov/indiv/research/indepth/ibonds/res_ibonds.htm

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AlCalavicci
07/03/22 8:50:04 PM
#322:


Cocytus posted...
https://www.treasurydirect.gov/indiv/research/indepth/ibonds/res_ibonds.htm

They sound good.

Trying to figure out what 10,000 would mean for a monthly interest accrual. Would it be $10,000 x .00962, = 96.20 per month? Also, I don't really understand the interest rate being a mix between a fixed rate and a variable inflation rate, and how the rate changes every six months.

Apparently you also give up the last 3 months of interest if you cash out before 5 years.

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Tyranthraxus
07/03/22 8:52:42 PM
#323:


I would not buy bonds during a recession, personally.

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Cocytus
07/03/22 9:09:29 PM
#324:


AlCalavicci posted...
Apparently you also give up the last 3 months of interest if you cash out before 5 years
That's the way it is with almost all these time-bomb investment.
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Cocytus
07/03/22 9:10:17 PM
#325:


Tyranthraxus posted...
I would not buy bonds during a recession, personally.
Bonds always pay out. You just have to ride 'em.
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AlCalavicci
07/03/22 9:52:55 PM
#326:


Tyranthraxus posted...
I would not buy bonds during a recession, personally.

Because you'd be afraid you would need the money you put in/want to be able to use it for smarter investments?

Because the bonds can't lose money, right?

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Tyranthraxus
07/03/22 11:25:51 PM
#327:


AlCalavicci posted...
Because you'd be afraid you would need the money you put in/want to be able to use it for smarter investments?

Because the bonds can't lose money, right?

Depends if the rate of inflation is greater than the rate of the interest in bonds. While it's mathematically impossible for the physical number to go down, you can "lose" money because the interest can't outpace inflation.

Of course even if it doesn't outpace inflation it's better than cash. I just think buying more securities is a better option given the current bear market.

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Cocytus
07/04/22 10:10:26 AM
#328:


AlCalavicci posted...
Because the bonds can't lose money, right?
Government bonds? No, I've never heard of them losing money. Low yields, but you'll damn sure get your principal back at the worst.
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CE_gonna_CE
07/04/22 10:27:22 AM
#329:


Yeah, I Bonds are the closest thing to a sure bet/high return you can get these days.

The main downsides are having to tie up your cash for a while, losing out on that quarter of interest if you sell early, and the fact that there is a limit to how much you can buy. But otherwise, youre guaranteed to at least get your initial investment back 100% which is a huge plus.

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theAteam
07/04/22 10:54:38 AM
#330:


The biggest downside to I bonds is the $10k limit. That doesnt work for people trying to retire or whatever that have a lot more money.

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Cokewave
07/04/22 5:21:37 PM
#331:


AlCalavicci posted...
Trying to figure out what 10,000 would mean for a monthly interest accrual. Would it be $10,000 x .00962, = 96.20 per month? Also, I don't really understand the interest rate being a mix between a fixed rate and a variable inflation rate, and how the rate changes every six months.

Apparently you also give up the last 3 months of interest if you cash out before 5 years.
"The interest is compounded semiannually. Every six months from the bond's issue date, interest the bond earned in the six previous months is added to the bond's principal value, creating a new principal value. Interest is then earned on the new principal."

"We set the inflation rate every six months (on the first business day of May and on the first business day of November), based on changes in the non-seasonally adjusted Consumer Price Index for all Urban Consumers (CPI-U) for all items, including food and energy."

You have your fixed rate (which is actually 0.0%) and your inflation rate (4.81% semi-annually [9.62% annual]); every 6 months they re-adjust your bond yield based on the current inflation rate. The change doesn't actually go in effect for you in May/November but actually 6/12/18/etc. months from when you purchased the bond.

So if you bought it right now ($10,000) you would receive $481 in 6 months and then they would re-adjust your rate to the current inflation level on your new principal ($10,481).

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AngelsNAirwav3s
07/06/22 12:36:39 PM
#332:


Did GUSH finally hit bottom and is gonna turn around??? I just put in a bunch of money at $108... plz

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AlCalavicci
07/06/22 12:40:42 PM
#333:


Cokewave posted...
"The interest is compounded semiannually. Every six months from the bond's issue date, interest the bond earned in the six previous months is added to the bond's principal value, creating a new principal value. Interest is then earned on the new principal."

"We set the inflation rate every six months (on the first business day of May and on the first business day of November), based on changes in the non-seasonally adjusted Consumer Price Index for all Urban Consumers (CPI-U) for all items, including food and energy."

You have your fixed rate (which is actually 0.0%) and your inflation rate (4.81% semi-annually [9.62% annual]); every 6 months they re-adjust your bond yield based on the current inflation rate. The change doesn't actually go in effect for you in May/November but actually 6/12/18/etc. months from when you purchased the bond.

So if you bought it right now ($10,000) you would receive $481 in 6 months and then they would re-adjust your rate to the current inflation level on your new principal ($10,481).

Ah this makes sense. Thank you for this

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Makeveli_lives
07/06/22 5:21:20 PM
#334:


https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/gamestop-announces-four-for-one-stock-split-2022-07-06/

GME stock split announced. July 22nd.

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SergeantGander
07/06/22 5:46:34 PM
#335:


If you had $10k sitting around that you know you can invest.

What would you do?

I've thought about going in on some generic ETF like VTI or just a top company like Walmart, Apple, or Microsoft.

Outside of my Roth IRA and work retirement I don't really have any investments. Kind of want to take this market dip to get in.

I know nothing is a sure bet, but seeing so many stocks down 20-30+% just got me thinking that even a return to normal is a nice gain. Even if it is down the road a ways.

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CE_gonna_CE
07/06/22 6:21:40 PM
#336:


SergeantGander posted...
If you had $10k sitting around that you know you can invest.

What would you do?

I've thought about going in on some generic ETF like VTI or just a top company like Walmart, Apple, or Microsoft.

Nothing wrong with this approach at all. Id take Walmart out of the mix, but thats just me personally.

Amazon, Intuit, and Costco are 3 other random decent long term buy and holds in my book. But Apple and Microsoft are solid.

Oh, Disney as well. I feel thats priced quite nicely now and will be around forever.

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littlebro07
07/06/22 8:43:35 PM
#337:


SergeantGander posted...
If you had $10k sitting around that you know you can invest.

What would you do?

I've thought about going in on some generic ETF like VTI or just a top company like Walmart, Apple, or Microsoft.

Outside of my Roth IRA and work retirement I don't really have any investments. Kind of want to take this market dip to get in.

I know nothing is a sure bet, but seeing so many stocks down 20-30+% just got me thinking that even a return to normal is a nice gain. Even if it is down the road a ways.


Id just dump it in VTI

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SergeantGander
07/06/22 9:47:31 PM
#338:


CE_gonna_CE posted...
Nothing wrong with this approach at all. Id take Walmart out of the mix, but thats just me personally.

Amazon, Intuit, and Costco are 3 other random decent long term buy and holds in my book. But Apple and Microsoft are solid.

Oh, Disney as well. I feel thats priced quite nicely now and will be around forever.

littlebro07 posted...
Id just dump it in VTI

Thanks for the input! I'll keep mulling it over, I've done some research and I'm trying to learn more.

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CE_gonna_CE
07/06/22 10:10:46 PM
#339:


Youre all good. If anything was glaringly obvious, all of us in this thread would be rich by now.

As long as youre ok with a bit of volatility if the market keeps going down a bit in the short term and are good with holding long term, which it sounds like you are, youre in good shape. Like you said, stuff Is already down quite a bit from recent highs, so by getting in now youve already got an advantage over folks who got in way higher. Theres no such thing as a safe bet, but VTI is about as solid as you can have since it gets you decent exposure to the market as a whole.

Oh yeah, and if you think Facebook is a long term play, META is another one thats taken quite a battering recently and is at a decent price point. Michael Burry (look him up if you dont know anything about him) favors it over Apple at this point, and if theres any dude that knows his shit and is worth emulating - other than Warren Buffett - its him.

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AngelsNAirwav3s
07/06/22 11:04:29 PM
#340:


I am super bullish on oil, no reason it should be this low, demand has to fall huge to justify this low price, supply is no where close to where it has to be for sub $100 oil. Should be back to $120 or $150 by year end. Saudi Arabia is tapped, OPEC cant make up the lack of supply, and US oil production isnt going up fast enough

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SergeantGander
07/07/22 9:16:58 AM
#341:


CE_gonna_CE posted...
Youre all good. If anything was glaringly obvious, all of us in this thread would be rich by now.

As long as youre ok with a bit of volatility if the market keeps going down a bit in the short term and are good with holding long term, which it sounds like you are, youre in good shape. Like you said, stuff Is already down quite a bit from recent highs, so by getting in now youve already got an advantage over folks who got in way higher. Theres no such thing as a safe bet, but VTI is about as solid as you can have since it gets you decent exposure to the market as a whole.

Oh yeah, and if you think Facebook is a long term play, META is another one thats taken quite a battering recently and is at a decent price point. Michael Burry (look him up if you dont know anything about him) favors it over Apple at this point, and if theres any dude that knows his shit and is worth emulating - other than Warren Buffett - its him.

Definitely okay with some short term volatility. I'm looking up Burry right now, the low price points of Disney and META are pretty tempting right now.

Another quick question for anyone, what do you use to invest? I've seen Fidelity and TD pop up a lot as good options for beginners, thanks to their low fees. I'm not really looking to actively trade, mostly looking long term, not sure if that factors in to one platform being better than another?


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CE_gonna_CE
07/07/22 9:58:35 AM
#342:


I just use Robinhood, but have been using it since 2018 when they were really the only no-fee broker around. Its quick and easy to buy stuff, so its always done the job for me so Ive never seen the need to switch.

Now that all brokers are essentially no-fee, you cant go wrong with many of them. Seems like a lot of folks swear by TD Ameritrade, but Id just download a couple and see what you like best. Doesnt really matter where you hold stocks, as long as you like the interface. But maybe read up a bit on that as well.

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lilORANG
07/07/22 10:00:20 AM
#343:


Today is the day we all get rich!

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Cocytus
07/07/22 11:07:44 AM
#344:


lilORANG posted...
Today is the day we all get rich!
Lord I hope so.
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Blue_Thunder
07/07/22 12:01:48 PM
#345:


Schwab is also a good option imo.

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Makeveli_lives
07/08/22 5:58:39 PM
#346:


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-07-08/musk-says-he-s-terminating-44-billion-deal-to-buy-twitter

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Trumpo
07/08/22 7:48:45 PM
#347:


Shocked Pikachu /s

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Makeveli_lives
07/09/22 10:46:55 PM
#348:


bump

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Chadawah
07/10/22 12:56:00 AM
#349:


Lump
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Billyionaire
07/10/22 3:04:29 PM
#350:


Not trying to kick someone who's down, but I just saw some guy on Twitter doing wish-fulfillment screengrabs of the ENZC ticker shopped to be at $3. Lol

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