Poll of the Day > My uncle got bell's palsy from the vaccine.

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THEGODDAMNBATMA
05/08/22 11:06:48 PM
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Sucks, wish people didn't try to hide negative aspects of the vaccine. It has mostly cleared up, but you can tell it still affects him.
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DrPrimemaster
05/08/22 11:12:46 PM
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More like Smells Ballsy

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Adam_Savage
05/08/22 11:18:03 PM
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bells palsy is actually a potential side effect of covid itself

so

your uncle actually just had covid, if that's what even happened, he could have just already had it

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HornedLion
05/08/22 11:34:44 PM
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Uh how long ago? The initial 48hrs is crucial. If he gets a steroid shot hell go back to normal. If not hell be looking like Rocky for the rest of his life.

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hungrymike
05/09/22 1:44:55 AM
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THEGODDAMNBATMA posted...
Sucks, wish people didn't try to hide negative aspects of the vaccine.
Adam_Savage posted...
bells palsy is actually a potential side effect of covid itself

so

your uncle actually just had covid, if that's what even happened, he could have just already had it

I see your point Batma.
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wolfy42
05/09/22 1:58:20 AM
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I got my second booster shot a bit over a month ago and DAMN was it bad.

My first booster shot was bad, I got serious spasms in my right arm which set off my back. I also had a high fever and chills but my back was so bad I didn't focus on that much.

This time I told them about it, and they were like, just rotate your arm a bunch before hand and it should prevent the spasms.

And it worked!

Sadly the fever was MUCH worse and the chills/shaking was uncontrollable. It lasted about 30 hours and felt like hell. After I recovered I called my doctors office and had them put it on my chart that I can't get another booster shot again. Honestly Covid has to be better than that.

Luckily it was just af ever and chills and that shaking didn't keep happening afterwards, there does not seem to be any long term effect to me. Still that was seriously tramatic and people who were older than me, out of shape or had other issues might not have made it through that experience.

There are definately effects that are not being reported to the general public though as they wanted specifics of my reaction and said that they always took down the info when someone has a reaction to the vaccine, so it certainly wasn't just me.

Never getteting Moderna again for sure, and probably not any other vaccine shot (still will get the flu shot though). That truly and seriously sucked hard.

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Adam_Savage
05/09/22 2:57:26 AM
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hungrymike posted...


I see your point Batma.


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ArmoredCore55
05/09/22 5:01:50 AM
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Still have no plan on getting the vaccine. I dont think its making that much of a difference, IMO.
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Yellow
05/09/22 5:06:48 AM
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ArmoredCore55 posted...
Still have no plan on getting the vaccine. I dont think its making that much of a difference, IMO.
So you don't pay attention to any statistics at all, ok... nice opinion

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MICHALECOLE
05/09/22 5:18:27 AM
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ArmoredCore55 posted...
Still have no plan on getting the vaccine. I dont think its making that much of a difference, IMO.
I also like to just make things up and say them
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Jesserae
05/09/22 5:22:35 AM
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Yellow posted...
So you don't pay attention to any statistics at all, ok... nice opinion
Everyone does it's unavoidable, it's also likely why only dipshits are still concerned about it.

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Jesserae
05/09/22 5:30:32 AM
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Adam_Savage posted...
bells palsy is actually a potential side effect of covid itself

so

your uncle actually just had covid, if that's what even happened, he could have just already had it
Please find information regarding those who were vaccinated who had covid and got Bells and how many unvaccinated people who had covid got bells from covid.

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Far-Queue
05/09/22 5:36:17 AM
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DrPrimemaster posted...
More like Smells Ballsy
lmao

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Revelation34
05/09/22 6:03:08 AM
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Covid doesn't exist anymore due to Ukraine.

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kind9
05/09/22 6:27:50 AM
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Jesserae posted...
Please find information regarding those who were vaccinated who had covid and got Bells and how many unvaccinated people who had covid got bells from covid.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaotolaryngology/fullarticle/2781368

This was very difficult to find. I had to search google and then I had to click on the very first result.

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Judgmenl
05/09/22 6:44:17 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
Covid doesn't exist anymore due to Ukraine.
^This
Why are we still talking about things that haven't been relevant since 2021.

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adjl
05/09/22 9:56:46 AM
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THEGODDAMNBATMA posted...
Sucks, wish people didn't try to hide negative aspects of the vaccine.

It's not so much trying to hide the negative aspects as it is trying to avoid blowing them out of proportion. The vaccines do indeed have the potential for serious negative side effects, but it's much rarer to see those side effects than it is to have comparably negative outcomes from Covid itself (for many side effects, Covid actually causes the exact same effect at a much higher rate/severity). Citing the side effects without mentioning their incidence risks scaring people away from the vaccine by robbing them of the ability to do an informed risk analysis.

So long as Covid continues to run rampant, the only rational conclusion a properly informed risk analysis will yield is that getting vaccinated against Covid is better than not. The only exception to this is people with allergies to one or more components of the vaccine, and even then they may be able to safely take a different one. I recognize that it can be hard to keep that perspective when you see the adverse outcomes realized like this, because it's human nature to overestimate the significant of personal experience in analyzing risks, but your personal experience doesn't change the objective risks involved.

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ParanoidObsessive
05/09/22 10:20:51 AM
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Jesserae posted...
Please find information regarding those who were vaccinated who had covid and got Bells and how many unvaccinated people who had covid got bells from covid.

Please find the information where no causative effect relating to the vaccine was found.

Because that's how science actually works.

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Adam_Savage
05/09/22 11:28:25 AM
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Jesserae posted...

Please find information regarding those who were vaccinated who had covid and got Bells and how many unvaccinated people who had covid got bells from covid.

not doing your homework for you

go get vaccinated.

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Jesserae
05/09/22 6:37:55 PM
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Adam_Savage posted...
not doing your homework for you

go get vaccinated.
No thanks, best mate got it, passed out while taking a piss an hour later(first time he ever passed out), face went through his bathroom sink, 12 stiches across his face, told the Dr at the hospital and the Dr said "I don't want to hear about it", no reporting of incidents, that could hurt vax numbers.
The numbers we have are bullshit, there's been a collective effort to oppress information regarding side effects.

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Metalsonic66
05/09/22 6:40:34 PM
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Sure I believe you

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Lokarin
05/09/22 6:53:34 PM
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My uncle got in an auto-accident cuz of the vaccine... yes, the doctor outright administered it with his car

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MICHALECOLE
05/09/22 7:31:27 PM
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Jesserae posted...
No thanks, best mate got it, passed out while taking a piss an hour later(first time he ever passed out), face went through his bathroom sink, 12 stiches across his face, told the Dr at the hospital and the Dr said "I don't want to hear about it", no reporting of incidents, that could hurt vax numbers.
The numbers we have are bullshit, there's been a collective effort to oppress information regarding side effects.
What a bunch of horse shit
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Adam_Savage
05/09/22 7:53:43 PM
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Jesserae posted...

No thanks, best mate got it, passed out while taking a piss an hour later(first time he ever passed out), face went through his bathroom sink, 12 stiches across his face, told the Dr at the hospital and the Dr said "I don't want to hear about it", no reporting of incidents, that could hurt vax numbers.
The numbers we have are bullshit, there's been a collective effort to oppress information regarding side effects.

i bet he also sprouted seventeen arms and your cell reception weirdly got very good, huh

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adjl
05/09/22 10:18:48 PM
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*cites single anecdote*
"The numbers are bullshit"

That's... not quite how statistics work.

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Adam_Savage
05/09/22 11:00:23 PM
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https://i.imgur.com/kBvXTk0.png

lol

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Zareth
05/09/22 11:01:35 PM
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Is that Wanded's new alt?

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Adam_Savage
05/09/22 11:08:46 PM
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dunno, didn't seem erratic as hell like him

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Revelation34
05/10/22 5:29:02 AM
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That's a weird message to get moderated for.

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wwinterj25
05/10/22 1:34:26 PM
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THEGODDAMNBATMA posted...
Sucks, wish people didn't try to hide negative aspects of the vaccine.

They don't. It's still recommended though. Nice try.


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adjl
05/10/22 1:38:33 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
That's a weird message to get moderated for.

The whole "the vaccine is evil the medical community is lying to you" narrative has generally been moddable. That's a pretty dangerous bit of misinformation to leave lying around.

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Revelation34
05/10/22 3:18:07 PM
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adjl posted...


The whole "the vaccine is evil the medical community is lying to you" narrative has generally been moddable. That's a pretty dangerous bit of misinformation to leave lying around.


Anecdotal by definition can't be misinformation.

Obviously it never happened though.

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Adam_Savage
05/10/22 3:28:12 PM
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anecdotes, by definition, can be misinformation

anecdote

noun

an account regarded as unreliable or hearsay.


literally it is misinformation

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adjl
05/10/22 3:35:57 PM
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Oh, I actually believe it happened. It's not that uncommon to see people faint after getting vaccinated (even an hour or two later), and the Covid shot is no exception. Rather than attributing the doctor's response to a grand conspiracy by an evil pharmaceutical industry, however, I suspect it was just an overworked ER doctor trying to avoid having to deal with the extra paperwork associated with reporting an adverse vaccine reaction, especially when it's such a routine side effect and that single report isn't going to amount to anything in the grand scheme of informed risk analysis. That's not a very ethical thing to do, and it's very much not best practice, but it's a whole lot less nefarious than our vaccine-fearing friend seems to want to believe it is.

Anecdotes can absolutely be misinformation, though. By their nature, they overstate the risks involved and provide a very narrow picture of the situation, which can be very misleading if they're presented as being more significant than they are (such as following the anecdote with "they're all lying to you the vaccines are dangerous"). That's misinformation.

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shadowsword87
05/10/22 3:43:44 PM
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adjl posted...
Oh, I actually believe it happened. It's not that uncommon to see people faint after getting vaccinated (even an hour or two later), and the Covid shot is no exception. Rather than attributing the doctor's response to a grand conspiracy by an evil pharmaceutical industry, however, I suspect it was just an overworked ER doctor trying to avoid having to deal with the extra paperwork associated with reporting an adverse vaccine reaction, especially when it's such a routine side effect and that single report isn't going to amount to anything in the grand scheme of informed risk analysis. That's not a very ethical thing to do, and it's very much not best practice, but it's a whole lot less nefarious than our vaccine-fearing friend seems to want to believe it is.

Anecdotes can absolutely be misinformation, though. By their nature, they overstate the risks involved and provide a very narrow picture of the situation, which can be very misleading if they're presented as being more significant than they are (such as following the anecdote with "they're all lying to you the vaccines are dangerous"). That's misinformation.

When I received my booster, the doctor was actually wildly close to my arm humerus bone, which, if that actually nicked my bone, HO BOY would I have a complaint about the vaccine.

That isn't to say that the vaccine booster was inherently bad.
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ReturnOfFa
05/10/22 4:05:42 PM
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This topic is the kind of shit that makes me more depressed lmfao.

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ReturnOfFa
05/10/22 4:08:00 PM
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THEGODDAMNBATMA posted...
Sucks, wish people didn't try to hide negative aspects of the vaccine. It has mostly cleared up, but you can tell it still affects him.
How old is your uncle, and what was the timespan between his vaccine and the onset of BP?

Sucks, wish people would provide all the context before making very serious medical claims.

Also relevant:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/5/7/AAUdByAADN8l.png

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ReturnOfFa
05/10/22 4:09:11 PM
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https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaotolaryngology/fullarticle/2781367

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/5/8/AAUdByAADN8m.png

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ReturnOfFa
05/10/22 4:10:44 PM
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https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1473309921004515
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/6/1/AAUdByAADN8p.png

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ReturnOfFa
05/10/22 4:14:22 PM
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https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaotolaryngology/fullarticle/2781368
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/6/5/AAUdByAADN8t.png


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ReturnOfFa
05/10/22 4:14:55 PM
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DrPrimemaster posted...
More like Smells Ballsy


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ReturnOfFa
05/10/22 4:15:27 PM
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Hope he fully recovers, and best wishes.

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THEGODDAMNBATMA
05/10/22 4:54:27 PM
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ReturnOfFa posted...
How old is your uncle, and what was the timespan between his vaccine and the onset of BP?

Sucks, wish people would provide all the context before making very serious medical claims.

Also relevant:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/5/7/AAUdByAADN8l.png

Two days
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Entity13
05/10/22 11:13:27 PM
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THEGODDAMNBATMA posted...
Two days

Well two days is a speedy recovery. In any case, cheers. I hope you're both well.

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THEGODDAMNBATMA
05/10/22 11:39:46 PM
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Entity13 posted...
Well two days is a speedy recovery. In any case, cheers. I hope you're both well.
no he got the bells palsy two days after his vaccine.
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Revelation34
05/10/22 11:52:45 PM
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THEGODDAMNBATMA posted...


Two days


Your uncle is two days old?

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Entity13
05/10/22 11:54:32 PM
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THEGODDAMNBATMA posted...
no he got the bells palsy two days after his vaccine.

And if you read the message you had quoted, you'd see it mentioned only the recovery time, not the time in which symptoms appear.

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GGuirao13
05/11/22 4:12:22 AM
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Sorry about that, but at least it's cleared up mostly.l

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kangolcone
05/11/22 9:57:13 AM
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THEGODDAMNBATMA posted...
Sucks, wish people didn't try to hide negative aspects of the vaccine. It has mostly cleared up, but you can tell it still affects him.

You mean hide the negative aspects like when anti-vaxxers say its a mild cold?

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