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Underleveled
04/27/22 9:04:32 PM
#1:


Who wins Survivor 42?








Tori DID get final words.

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Mewtwo59
04/27/22 9:07:46 PM
#2:


Too bad we aren't getting a joint Rocksroy/Tori Ponderosa.

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Pokewars
04/27/22 9:08:46 PM
#3:


On closer inspection, she did. I'm cooking bacon, I'm distracted!

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Inviso
04/27/22 9:26:58 PM
#4:


Someone on Clubs made a good point. Survivor 41 was filmed, then Survivor 42 was filmed without knowledge of how 41 played out. And then, after both were filmed, BB23 was played. In all three seasons (which were the first three seasons following CBS' diversity initiative), there have been legitimate discussions of how race has an impact on black people in society, and black people in competitive reality television. This isn't just some cascade effect, where the Cookout existed, so then the Campout was created, and then Drea and Maryanne had their epiphany tonight; these are three groups of independent individuals who all came to the same conclusion about their place in society (which Survivor is a microcosm of).

These are legitimate concerns, and they may annoy a vastly white audience, but they're still important to listen to without immediately getting defensive and calling the season bullshit, or the mindset bullshit. Like I said at the end of the last topic, Chanelle and Rocksroy were targeted for game reasons on a surface level, but who's to know if there weren't subconscious biases that went into why Chanelle was viewed as super shady and worthy of a vendetta from Mike, or why Rocksroy was viewed as unreasonable and immovable, while everyone needed to make sure Mike was willing to flip? And then Jonathan's immediate plan going into this tribal council was to target Drea as a threat with an idol, and tell Drea to target Maryanne (despite Lindsay trying to explain why that was a bad idea). So both Drea and Maryanne went into tribal council thinking they'd be voting out the other black woman on the tribe...even though NO ONE trusted Tori and she should've been the biggest slam dunk elimination imaginable.

I just don't get why people are so upset about "woke" discussion, like Survivor hasn't always been billed as a social experiment.

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Inviso
04/27/22 9:31:22 PM
#5:


https://i.imgur.com/q7ZB3GC.png

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Mewtwo59
04/27/22 9:33:46 PM
#6:


Inviso posted...
Someone on Clubs made a good point. Survivor 41 was filmed, then Survivor 42 was filmed without knowledge of how 41 played out.

Funnily enough, the discussion at Tribal wasn't the only time this was apparent this episode. Omar said he was the first Muslim to make the merge, when it was actually Naseer.

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Inviso
04/27/22 9:36:44 PM
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Mewtwo59 posted...
Funnily enough, the discussion at Tribal wasn't the only time this was apparent this episode. Omar said he was the first Muslim to make the merge, when it was actually Naseer.

Naseer was Muslim? I thought he was Hindu. Also, Shirin was Muslim in WA either way.

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Underleveled
04/27/22 9:50:41 PM
#8:


Inviso posted...
Also, Shirin was Muslim in WA either way.
Are we sure about this? I remember reading that Natalia was the first Muslim since Ibrehem to play.

EDIT: From Survivor Wiki - Natalia is the first woman of Muslim faith, and the second castaway overall, following Ibrehem Rahman. They would be followed by Omar Zaheer.

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Mewtwo59
04/27/22 9:57:59 PM
#9:


Inviso posted...
Naseer was Muslim? I thought he was Hindu. Also, Shirin was Muslim in WA either way.

I've only heard it secondhand on the Survivor subreddit, so it could be wrong.

The list I saw was: Ibrehem, Natalia, Naseer, Omar.

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Inviso
04/27/22 10:03:19 PM
#10:


You're right. I thought Shirin was Muslim, but she wasn't.

Naseer wasn't either though, so technically it's true that Omar is the first to make the merge.

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BlueCrystalTear
04/27/22 10:16:05 PM
#11:


They haven't seen S41 so they wouldn't know about it, but it wouldn't have been put in the edit if Naseer was indeed Muslim. It's for this reason we haven't seen "We haven't seen a woman win since Lacina in S34" since they don't know about S41 finally breaking that curse.

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04/28/22 12:48:34 AM
#12:


Race inequity discussions are important. As long as there are people denying subconscious bias, the discussions won't stop being important, and I don't see that stopping in our lifetimes.

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04/28/22 12:50:25 AM
#13:


Also, Jonathan calling Drea aggressive was a big oof

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04/28/22 12:51:48 AM
#14:


Inviso posted...
Someone on Clubs made a good point. Survivor 41 was filmed, then Survivor 42 was filmed without knowledge of how 41 played out. And then, after both were filmed, BB23 was played. In all three seasons (which were the first three seasons following CBS' diversity initiative), there have been legitimate discussions of how race has an impact on black people in society, and black people in competitive reality television. This isn't just some cascade effect, where the Cookout existed, so then the Campout was created, and then Drea and Maryanne had their epiphany tonight; these are three groups of independent individuals who all came to the same conclusion about their place in society (which Survivor is a microcosm of).

This gets to me.

(I wish there were more chinese people on survivor)

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04/28/22 1:14:23 AM
#15:


Im realizing how upset I am that Maryanne and Drea had to use their idols tonight because they were afraid of the fan reaction, and there is still a noticable fan reaction group shitting on them

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Naye745
04/28/22 1:15:56 AM
#16:


tori sucks but she was pretty much put in a no-win situation and i can't blame her for feeling awkward about absolutely needing to try to save herself

but man, i loved everything about drea tonight and thought she kicked ass in how she handled every part of what happened. maybe the blindside would have been good drama, but i think we're in for a hell of a finish with who's left

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05/02/22 3:05:07 PM
#17:


Bump

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Underleveled
05/04/22 8:06:16 PM
#18:


Lol Maryanne just Keith'd her way into an idol

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Mewtwo59
05/04/22 8:07:37 PM
#19:


Poor Lynze was too short to see it up in that tree.

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Underleveled
05/04/22 8:18:39 PM
#20:


How the hell Jonathan not hear that?

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Espeon
05/04/22 8:24:12 PM
#21:


Omar is great in terms of the mastermind archetype.

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Mewtwo59
05/04/22 8:27:46 PM
#22:


So does Jonathan win immunity, or does Hai?

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Underleveled
05/04/22 8:29:49 PM
#23:


I mean, this isn't exactly a selection of the greatest characters Survivor has ever offered:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/5/5/AAaSYmAADMv_.jpg

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Underleveled
05/04/22 8:30:10 PM
#24:


Mewtwo59 posted...
So does Jonathan win immunity, or does Hai?
I'm thinking Lindsay.

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Underleveled
05/04/22 8:34:42 PM
#25:


Called it

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Espeon
05/04/22 8:35:57 PM
#26:


Yay Lynze!

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Mewtwo59
05/04/22 8:41:43 PM
#27:


"Cutting the snake off this head"

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Underleveled
05/04/22 8:42:35 PM
#28:


Where did calling/spelling her Lynze come from all of a sudden?

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Underleveled
05/04/22 8:43:46 PM
#29:


What's gonna happen...

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Espeon
05/04/22 8:45:39 PM
#30:


Underleveled posted...
Where did calling/spelling her Lynze come from all of a sudden?

Rocksroys merge vote.

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Mewtwo59
05/04/22 8:47:19 PM
#31:


Does the Advantage Amulet count as an advantage for the purposes of the Knowledge is Power advantage? Could Drea steal Lynze's amulet after voting out Hai and have a vote steal?

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bwburke94
05/04/22 8:52:10 PM
#32:


Mewtwo59 posted...
Does the Advantage Amulet count as an advantage for the purposes of the Knowledge is Power advantage? Could Drea steal Lynze's amulet after voting out Hai and have a vote steal?
Drea can steal the amulet at the next tribal, but we don't know what happens if she does.

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Underleveled
05/04/22 8:57:28 PM
#33:


I expected him to either react like that or be hella pissed.

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Mewtwo59
05/04/22 8:59:03 PM
#34:


Man, just as his face wound was healing.

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Underleveled
05/04/22 9:00:37 PM
#35:


Oh they're gonna do the stupid-ass thing that they did to Deshawn again, aren't they?

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Mewtwo59
05/04/22 9:03:21 PM
#36:


Probably. I hope it fails again, but unless they tweaked the odds from last season, it's not likely.

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Inviso
05/04/22 9:11:50 PM
#37:


https://i.imgur.com/yEPB0Ku.png

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ScepterOfLove
05/04/22 10:44:56 PM
#38:


After this episode Im wondering if the editors are pulling a similar trick that they did with Erika with Lindsey. Quiet in the first half but reaches up and gains a lot of power as the game closes out.

Im thinking this because, like Hai before him, Omar may be painting too big a target on himself. Hes controlled every vote since merge, but with his puppet Hai gone, I think he might get found out soon. Either that, or he just genuinely controlled the entire post-merge portion of the game and we get one of the most dominant winners ever.

Im also intrigued by Maryanne. With another idol in her pocket and much bigger threats in Jonathan, Drea, and Omar still around, Maryanne is in the most cushioned position right now. No one is looking to get her out, and if she does sneak to the end, we know shes capable of making an emotional case for herself. As the game stands right now, I think shes got the easiest path to the end, and shell be quite formidable at tribal. The more I think about it, the more feasible a Maryanne win is starting to sound.
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MartinFF7
05/04/22 11:06:08 PM
#39:


Omar has a girlfriend? And she's cute??? He's even got the "mastermind" skills outside of the game eh...

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BlueCrystalTear
05/04/22 11:17:03 PM
#40:


ScepterOfLove posted...
The more I think about it, the more feasible a Maryanne win is starting to sound.
I don't know if she'll articulate a good case at FTC. I mean, she was saying she was playing "the moral game" because she found an idol... unless that was frankened, seeing it made no sense. There are many times when she talks a lot and can't slow down. And keep in mind: I LIKE Maryanne. I think she can feasibly win. But I feel she's potentially getting 2nd.

After this episode Im wondering if the editors are pulling a similar trick that they did with Erika with Lindsey. Quiet in the first half but reaches up and gains a lot of power as the game closes out.
I really doubt that. They usually don't edit a winner in the same way two seasons in a row (yes, a couple of counter-examples do exist). Lindsay's also lacking in a DeShawn to her Erika. Jonathan's more tied to Omar in that regard. Lindsay is also the castaway of those left we know the least about, whereas Erika got one of the best Exile packages of all time (yes, I know Coach is far and away #1 there, but after him...).

My current "winner" power rankings:
Omar
Mike
Drea
Maryanne
Jonathan
Lindsay
Romeo

Good episode btw.

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05/05/22 12:38:00 AM
#41:


this has been the best big brother season ive seen (the 2 that come close are BBCAN6 and BB17) and I'd be happy with any of the final three being the winner tbh (but I hope it's kevin)

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05/06/22 2:04:11 AM
#43:


sorry for gushing but the BBCAN10 finale was today, the winner is being compared to the likes of Dr Will and Dan (apparently, the last time a player won without winning HOH was 20 years ago on Season 2, and also the first time a week 1 nominee has won?) and the season is up there as a top tier season and the best since Season 10 (which unfortunately I havent seen), with something exciting (multiple things exciting) or unexpected happening every week, including the finale

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Mewtwo59
05/06/22 11:43:15 PM
#44:


The official Survivor channel uploaded their previews, and the synopsis confirms that Do or Die is back.

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BlueCrystalTear
05/06/22 11:56:57 PM
#45:


Amazing how they decided that ruining the pivotal F7 vote in S41 turned out well, when it was utterly terrible television.

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Mewtwo59
05/11/22 8:06:36 PM
#46:


I don't think Mike's word is worth much anymore.

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Espeon
05/11/22 8:10:08 PM
#47:


I love this style of editing. Really, Mike playing as personal as he does makes for great television.

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Mewtwo59
05/11/22 8:18:52 PM
#48:


I don't know why they care if Jonathan wins out, since he doesn't have any chance of getting any jury votes at this point.

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Mewtwo59
05/11/22 8:23:02 PM
#49:


Welp, that explains Lynze's edit.

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Espeon
05/11/22 8:23:08 PM
#50:


Jonathan versus Lindsay. Interesting choice.

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Pokewars
05/11/22 8:27:29 PM
#51:


Lindsay was in a good position socially but this shitty twist will negate that tonight.

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