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CassandraCain
05/06/22 11:35:46 AM
#303:


Well if it's true that she was seen rehearsing, we now know why. She's just playing a role, and probably believes she's a great actor when that's not at all the case.

But a 10 day break?! That's agonizing.

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UshiromiyaEva
05/06/22 12:34:51 PM
#304:


Did I hear right that she fucked up on the stand with part of her testimony and Depp's team literally cheered in the courtroom that she let it slip?

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Aecioo
05/06/22 12:40:41 PM
#305:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Did I hear right that she fucked up on the stand with part of her testimony and Depp's team literally cheered in the courtroom that she let it slip?

They got up and started hi fiving. It was wild

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CassandraCain
05/06/22 1:04:24 PM
#306:


https://youtu.be/Hd71F-6MtbY

This was what I saw on the "cheering"

yeah they might as well have had pom poms

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neonreaper
05/06/22 1:18:19 PM
#307:


You tricked me into watching asmongold you jerk

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PrivateBiscuit1
05/06/22 1:22:52 PM
#308:


CassandraCain posted...
https://youtu.be/Hd71F-6MtbY

This was what I saw on the "cheering"

yeah they might as well have had pom poms
This can be a few things, I took note of it too.

The first of which being that this may open up the door to talk about her ex she got arrested for hitting.

Another might be that she was saying "I was protecting my sister, but then I just saw Kate Moss in my head and I punched Johnny" which means that she wasn't actually doing it to protect her sister, and she just admitted to hitting him in a fit of rage.

Or it may be something easily impeachable about the Kate Moss stuff.

But it seemed surprising given how much obviously impeachable stuff there was before. We'll find out on cross, for sure, but it has to be major if they're making a big deal of it.

Edit: I will agree with neon that it's sinister you made anyone watch Asmongold. For shame.

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CassandraCain
05/06/22 1:38:27 PM
#309:


I have no idea who asmongold is, my bad

(I did have a feeling it would be a problem though, he seems like a tool)

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ChaosTonyV4
05/06/22 1:42:43 PM
#310:


Asmongold is fine

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PrivateBiscuit1
05/06/22 1:49:54 PM
#311:


Oh wait, I did a bit of sleuthing and they have something on their witness list stating they can call anyone who was identified by the Defendant (Amber).

Considering Johnny and Kate Moss are on good terms still, it's possible that now they have opened up for them to call Kate Moss as a witness to say "Yeah this never happened" which would be huge and blow this whole thing up.

But re-watching a snippet of that part it's also definitely clearly opening up that they can bring up that Amber hit her ex since she is clearly referencing hitting Johnny hitting his ex. Which... huge mistake on her part. Especially when she's made claims like "You can't just hit your partner! You're not allowed to do that!"

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UshiromiyaEva
05/06/22 1:52:08 PM
#312:


Asmongold is find, he gets a way worse wrap than he deserves. I wouldn't call myself a fan, but I've watched him enough to know that. He's been through a lot recently!

His chat is a hellscape, though.

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MegaWentEvil
05/06/22 2:32:30 PM
#313:


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It's disgusting that someone would do that, because it makes people doubt actual abuse victims.
I know, right? Same for people who falsely accuse others of rape. It only makes the life of actual rape victims harder.


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PrivateBiscuit1
05/06/22 3:47:50 PM
#314:


MegaWentEvil posted...
I know, right? Same for people who falsely accuse others of rape. It only makes the life of actual rape victims harder.
Amber also made horrific claims of that nature too.

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Aecioo
05/06/22 4:07:02 PM
#315:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
His chat is a hellscape, though.

chat reflects the streamer tbh

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CoolCly
05/06/22 4:24:31 PM
#316:


Asmongold is extremely intelligent but he is usually just playing his dumb react persona and fanning the flames of content which is exactly what he's doing here, so probably not good

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UshiromiyaEva
05/06/22 4:25:25 PM
#317:


Aecioo posted...
chat reflects the streamer tbh

Naw, Asmon's chat is the result of years of almost non-existent moderation (which is his fault) combined with him making a name for himself on a game that is one of the poster child's for toxicity to begin with. I disagree with him on a lot, but he's not toxic. He's just kind of an asshole sometimes!

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Aecioo
05/06/22 5:25:16 PM
#318:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Naw, Asmon's chat is the result of years of almost non-existent moderation (which is his fault) combined with him making a name for himself on a game that is one of the poster child's for toxicity to begin with. I disagree with him on a lot, but he's not toxic. He's just kind of an asshole sometimes!

dude

reread your post

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StealThisSheen
05/06/22 5:31:06 PM
#319:


I think if the argument is "He's not toxic, he just surrounds himself with toxicity, harbors toxicity, and is an asshole," you might want to reflect on the argument some more.

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DoomTheGyarados
05/06/22 5:36:15 PM
#320:


StealThisSheen posted...
I think if the argument is "He's not toxic, he just surrounds himself with toxicity, harbors toxicity, and is an asshole," you might want to reflect on the argument some more.

Asmon bans anyone who so much as hints at an insult towards guests, streamers, etc

He has a chat of 50k-200k. There is going to be a lot of issues. Asmon is great.

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UshiromiyaEva
05/06/22 5:36:22 PM
#321:


Yeah but the lack of chat moderation is an issue of the past, one he's been trying to correct. If someone trying to actively make a positive change often goes out of his way to call out his chat, clean it up, and have long discussions in the middle of streaming when he sees bad takes in chat, then obviously he's making the right moves.

It's just that there's a lot of ground to make up, and only so much one man and his team can do to keep 6 digit counts of love viewers in check. The misrepresentation from people who dont watch him gets pretty intense. A major example is that he had a reputation for having his base mass report people to get then banned. The actual instance that started this rumor was him telling his chat to mass report a player who had snuck the N word into their character's name past the moderation. Context kind of important there!

Again, I don't even really like the guy, just like people having their stories straight.

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Team Rocket Elite
05/06/22 5:53:14 PM
#322:


In regards to both sides being actors. I wonder if the fact that Depp is an actor played a factor in deciding not to let him read out his own texts earlier in the trial. He is literally a professional at reading lines out loud so there's a risk he'll read them in a way that both sounds natural and favourable to himself.

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StealThisSheen
05/06/22 6:02:23 PM
#323:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Asmon bans anyone who so much as hints at an insult towards guests, streamers, etc

He has a chat of 50k-200k. There is going to be a lot of issues. Asmon is great.


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Yeah but the lack of chat moderation is an issue of the past, one he's been trying to correct. If someone trying to actively make a positive change often goes out of his way to call out his chat, clean it up, and have long discussions in the middle of streaming when he sees bad takes in chat, then obviously he's making the right moves.

It's just that there's a lot of ground to make up, and only so much one man and his team can do to keep 6 digit counts of love viewers in check. The misrepresentation from people who dont watch him gets pretty intense. A major example is that he had a reputation for having his base mass report people to get then banned. The actual instance that started this rumor was him telling his chat to mass report a player who had snuck the N word into their character's name past the moderation. Context kind of important there!

Again, I don't even really like the guy, just like people having their stories straight.

These are fair. I admittedly don't know much, I was just commenting on the conversation at hand. I'm more than happy to take your words for it.

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KamikazePotato
05/06/22 6:08:33 PM
#324:


Asmon has questionable takes every now and then but I think he's fine overall

Team Rocket Elite posted...
In regards to both sides being actors. I wonder if the fact that Depp is an actor played a factor in deciding not to let him read out his own texts earlier in the trial. He is literally a professional at reading lines out loud so there's a risk he'll read them in a way that both sounds natural and favourable to himself.
I imagine non-actors would try to do the same thing though, right? Seems like a good policy not to let them read their own texts.

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CassandraCain
05/06/22 6:19:07 PM
#325:


https://twitter.com/LilMoonLambo/status/1522338412392587264?s=20&t=bEQw8vD-q7UF75t-KY8mMA

There's no way she actually just snorted some cocaine there, right? She can't be THAT stupid.

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StealThisSheen
05/06/22 6:27:37 PM
#326:


CassandraCain posted...
https://twitter.com/LilMoonLambo/status/1522338412392587264?s=20&t=bEQw8vD-q7UF75t-KY8mMA

There's no way she actually just snorted some cocaine there, right? She can't be THAT stupid.

...I doubt she did, but that is an incredibly interesting way to blow your nose. Like, why the nostril pinch? Why is she wiping her nose with her finger immediately after and not the tissue she quite literally has in her hand?

It's so bizarre.

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UshiromiyaEva
05/06/22 6:46:52 PM
#327:


....That's absolutely nonsensical to consider and I was completely expecting to say no way, but that's....very peculiar.

I'm going to throw my hand into the "she's not" camp for the moment just based on pure disbelief that it could be possible, but I'm not going to say someone is out of their mind if they think otherwise.

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swordz9
05/06/22 6:50:02 PM
#328:


She didnt even look like she was blowing her nose at all
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PrivateBiscuit1
05/06/22 7:05:59 PM
#329:


She did have very strange ways of wiping her nose and tears. I remember once during one of her meltdowns where she was crying but no tears were coming out, she kind of wiped it from her forehead down to the tip of her nose and stopped. Not in like a panic kind of way, but one that was like she was wiping her face off instead. It was weird.

The one that sent me was when she was in the middle of a meltdown and pauses a split second to side eye the jury to see how they were reacting.

There's been people who are theorizing that she's not getting the reactions she wants from them towards the last incident of brutal beatings she discussed. Probably because they're just these multiple over the top situations of abuse where she both should be hospitalized after them but is just showing pictures and going "I mean, the lighting isn't very good here but you can see the bruise." Lady is it there or are you just trying to convince us it's there? Come on. And then showing neatly trimmed bits of hair and going "This is the hair he ripped out of my head."

If there's a single person on this jury who has ever had a broken nose or knows anyone with a broken nose, it's obvious how absurd her claims are with the pictures she's showing.

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StealThisSheen
05/06/22 7:10:19 PM
#330:


I've had a broken nose before, and it swells like a motherfucker, so that definitely stands out that no pictures actually show anything resembling a broken nose.

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Aecioo
05/06/22 7:33:16 PM
#331:


weirdest part was when amber heard did a line of coke off the desk and the judge, asmongold, hi fived johnny depps attorneys

this trial is getting weird

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CassandraCain
05/06/22 7:36:16 PM
#332:


Aecioo did you eat some shrooms before watching the trial

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PrivateBiscuit1
05/06/22 7:40:50 PM
#333:


No he took 10 MDMA, survived overdose, and it forced him to become overcome with rage, and he blew apart his finger with a phone.

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Aecioo
05/06/22 7:46:08 PM
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Darkinsanity1
05/06/22 10:21:00 PM
#335:


Reading Movieweb's article you'd almost think the trial is going way differently than it is lol.

It's a statement from Amber's team so I guess it makes sense they'd try to frame it like that but damn.

I'd link the article but it's not letting me for some reason.


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UshiromiyaEva
05/06/22 10:24:08 PM
#336:


Things are going smooth for Amber in the same sense that Trump definitely won the election.

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Team Rocket Elite
05/06/22 11:28:14 PM
#337:


Defamation suits are very hard to win. Even if Depp's side might look good, he can still lose.

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ChaosTonyV4
05/06/22 11:33:49 PM
#338:


I came into this topic to talk about how its gone so off the rails people think she actually snorted coke from a tissue in the middle of a televised trial, but its already here

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CassandraCain
05/06/22 11:34:29 PM
#339:


Team Rocket Elite posted...
Defamation suits are very hard to win. Even if Depp's side might look good, he can still lose.

I find that ridiculous. You'd have to be clueless on another level to believe anything this woman is saying.

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StealThisSheen
05/06/22 11:35:58 PM
#340:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
I came into this topic to talk about how its gone so off the rails people think she actually snorted coke from a tissue in the middle of a televised trial, but its already here

You've gotta admit it looks super weird. Like, she obviously didn't, by any measure of common sense, but...

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CassandraCain
05/06/22 11:37:13 PM
#341:


Yeah we all highly doubt she actually snorted cocaine while on the stand. But I mean it looks suspicious at the very least.

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Aecioo
05/06/22 11:49:23 PM
#342:


It says a lot about what this trial has turned into that people are legitimately asking if she did a bump hidden in a tissue.

If you haven't noticed my tone in this topic, well...

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Team Rocket Elite
05/07/22 12:16:10 AM
#343:


CassandraCain posted...


I find that ridiculous. You'd have to be clueless on another level to believe anything this woman is saying.


How I had it explained to me was "this is a jury trial and juries are lizard brained people who don't always go by the laws".

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ChaosTonyV4
05/07/22 1:09:25 AM
#344:


https://twitter.com/hasanthehun/status/1522779385819926528?s=21&t=ehaQGMmmc7Rt9GHAX5SoRQ

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Team Rocket Elite
05/07/22 1:26:38 AM
#345:


I actually sometimes blow my nose almost exactly the same way. Like right down to rubbing the bottom of my nose with a bare index finger (although for me it would be the hand not holding the tissue). Now I have to stop doing that or people will think I'm on cocaine. ;_;

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StealThisSheen
05/07/22 1:27:56 AM
#346:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
https://twitter.com/hasanthehun/status/1522779385819926528?s=21&t=ehaQGMmmc7Rt9GHAX5SoRQ

I don't think anyone in here actually thinks she did. You're yelling at clouds.

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PrivateBiscuit1
05/07/22 1:43:38 AM
#347:


Please don't bring Hasan into this topic.

He's actually terrible.

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CassandraCain
05/07/22 1:45:10 AM
#348:


Yeah again, we don't think she actually snorted cocaine while on the stand. Calm down.

This is the first courtroom drama I have ever been interested in, whether real or fictional. And it's because it's been so ridiculous. To the point where we actually have to question if this woman is doing drugs while under oath. She's not. We know that. There's no way that could be a thing that happened in reality. But it's still hilarious to think that well maybe...

Team Rocket Elite posted...
How I had it explained to me was "this is a jury trial and juries are lizard brained people who don't always go by the laws".

I find that insulting to lizards. They would be smart enough to see through these blatant lies imho

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PrivateBiscuit1
05/07/22 1:49:33 AM
#349:


Team Rocket Elite posted...
Defamation suits are very hard to win. Even if Depp's side might look good, he can still lose.
This is true.

However, this actually has a strong chance of success since Amber Heard went off the deep end with her insane accusations nobody can believe. Like I said, if she had kept it simple and just said "Okay, he hit me sometimes but only because I was kind of awful" she would have a much easier time winning this case. But she is telling us stories in which she should be hospitalized or dead and then she's cracking jokes with James Corden the next day without a single blemish.

It's just the outrageous lies that make it impossible to believe Johnny ever hit her. Because at that point, just be honest about these times you had an argument and he just took a swing at you. Easy victory. But every single thing is a lie that it's difficult to believe she ever told the truth about being hit.

I think he will win it, and not even lizard brain at this point. Amber still has a lot of her case left to present but Jesus they gave us nothing to back up her claims so far.

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PrivateBiscuit1
05/07/22 3:07:21 AM
#350:


Punting this to the next page, pardon.

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PrivateBiscuit1
05/07/22 3:07:45 AM
#351:


DAY 15 - Part 1

We're back to Amber Heard's wild lies again. I've mentioned it before, but this is an absolute disaster today, and anything that may have been believable before is just utterly unbelievable by anyone at all. You'll see here. I'm extra "not objective" this time from the jump because her stories are offensive to abuse survivors and sexual abuse survivors and she is a vile human being.

Amber said that Johnny was always shitting himself and vomitting on himself and passing out constantly and that all of the people closest to him (except for her deceased silent protector Jerry Judge) would just clean him up and act like nothing was wrong. Amber, who was stated to have a phobia of feces, claimed she constantly cleaned him up when he crapped his pants. She then shows pictures of the man just sleeping. Like sleeping in reclining chairs. Absolutely devastating. A complete monster. One might wonder why Amber would be taking so many pictures of Johnny sleeping, but very few pictures of all the times she was brutally beaten. Your guess is as good as mine. She also said he takes Quaaludes which have not been made since the 80's.

Camille Vasquez was an absolute champion today. She just absolutely ripped Amber and Elaine apart with objections. Just every time she was about to go "See, I told x person" or "x person told me" or "I wrote an email to myself", Camille just immediately objected. They went up to the bench CONSTANTLY, and the Judge was pissed off enough she started singing "Sustaaaaained" when Camille was objecting. They spent entirely too much time talking to the Judge, but it was good for Depp's team. Elaine literally defended her leading questions by saying "But I said 'what if any'" which doesn't automatically make a question not leading. Eventually after a bench chat she did not use that stupid excuse anymore.

The Judge, at one point, also told off both legal teams (but mostly Amber's) that they should be keeping track of the exhibits and that it's not supposed to be her job, because Exhibits have been a complete mess due to how much Amber's team has fucked around and drug their feet on submitting them to the point most of them were late and lacking in metadata, which is incredibly suspect since they now don't know if any images or emails or texts were modified and they don't know when they were created. (Spoilers: many images have been photoshopped and they are conflating images with different dates.) This is biting them in the ass because they kept wanting to present certain texts or images and Camille would just go "Can we approach?" and then Elaine lost every god damn time and had to retract whatever she was going to show.

Another story happened where Johnny was screaming at Amber with his kids in the room next door, conveniently when his kids are not allowed to testify to it. She keeps framing herself as some kind of benevolent protector of his kids too, which is extra gross since his kids hate her to the point where Johnny's daughter Lily-Rose hated her so much she wrote a letter about how much she hates her. And they aren't able to speak up and oppose this narrative either, and Amber knows it.

Amber said that Johnny was really controlling with her scripts and refused to let her do certain things where she had to be in a romantic role or show skin, even though she's been in plenty of movies during this time doing just that. "But it didn't happen all at once" so don't worry. She had to negotiate it all in her contracts though. Johnny said she didn't need to work or act, but golly gosh she said she NEEDS to work because she gives half of her paycheck to her poor family to support them! Also, Johnny wouldn't let her even be pictured with other men and said everyone was going to have sex with her if she dared to step outside.

Then Amber tried to throw Kate James, her former assistant that hated her, by trying to politely say she was always drunk on the job and neglecting her children and tried to tell a story about how she had to tell her that she once left her kid in the car and that got ethered into objection. She wanted to show some business record which Camille and Elaine went to the bench with their legal books and Camille won, obviously. That's the end of her trying to impeach Kate James!

Oh and guys, Johnny Depp apparently didn't want the pre-nup, Amber Heard was the one who wanted it! Because you see, Johnny Depp thought she was trying to find a way out of this relationship and didn't want to protect all of his money when Amber made a fraction of it. Certainly Amber doesn't care about Johnny's money; after all she claimed she gave it all to charity and gave exactly $0 of it to charity. Is there a person alive who would believe this lie? During this argument, she said that was the first time she had a broken nose, but that aside from that she was fine, but there was a bunch of swelling and bruising. She said she texted her friend Rocky about it but had no photos and OBJECTION HEARSAY.

Next is the plane ride story! Which is contradicted by everyone. Johnny was incredibly angry she was working with James Franco (It's all but confirmed she was cheating on him with James Franco fyi). She's giving a freaking novel answer to this and OBJECTION NONRESPONSIVE, sustained, get to the fucking point. He was asking about what James Franco was doing to her and saying "really disgusting things" about her body. And security and assistants and everyone else on the plane heard it, but everyone so far as denied it and she didn't call anyone else as a witness to support her. Then apparently he just starts throwing stuff at her and insulting her in front of everyone and he kept following her and SLAPS HER IN THE FACE. And it didn't hurt her to be slapped (like she never felt pain so far in any violent situation because she can't describe the sensation) but it just made her embarrassed. He keeps screaming at her and her favorite buzzword is "there was a blackness in his eyes" and this is the most movie ass thing you can say, and she keeps saying it throughout her testimony. "I just stared at him, wanting to penetrate the monster and see the man I loved. THE MAN I LOVED!" He then kicked her in the back and she was staring at the floor of the plane and everyone saw it but nobody did anything and everyone was there but they have nobody who will corroborate her story. Jerry Judge, the dead security guard, asks her if she was alright, which is objected to.

This is where the cracks in her story begin. Because you need to actively pretend like everyone else so far has been lying. Before it was Amber vs. Johnny, but now you need to believe that everyone else here who seemed reliable was lying, and only Amber is telling the truth. When she has not a single person on that plane to back her up. But you can still at least maybe think... okay, maybe everyone IS protecting Johnny and lying for him.

Anyway, now she said she knew she had to leave him--but enough about that he got an oxygen tank from the flight attendant who was not called in, and he continued to drink, and he howled like an animal and went into the bathroom and she recorded it because there was that 5% part of her who wanted to record him to remind him of what he had done. So her evidence to this? Playing recordings of him moaning in pain, which is from when he was detoxing and not from this plane ride. Everyone else has said he did not make any loud noises and moaning on this plane.

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Amber tries to talk about how she had her friends come over to make her feel after this and when they kept trying to show text messages it got OBJECTED into oblivion. And literally the only text they're allowed to show is Amber sending a text to Rocky saying "I'm not good". That's it. That is the only thing they're allowed to show while Amber talks about how horrified she was. But what about texts to her parents? OBJECTION HEARSAY. Okay, but what about your communication with Kate James, your assistant? OBJECTION HEARSAY. "What if anything did you do... on that day?" "I reached out to friends and family and asked for help--" OBJECTION HEARSAY. Judge is over this shit now. And then Amber took Johnny's daughter out later. OBJECTION HEARSAY on whatever text or picture they want to show. ...And then she cried that night. And she went to Al-Anon which she says is a support group for people who love alcoholics. But what did she say to Stephen Deuters? OBJECTION HEARSAY. Okay but who is Stephen Deuters? Oh, Johnny's manager and friend. So what did she say to Stephen Deuters? OBJECTION HEARSAY. So what did she say to Johnny around that time? Well, through communication with his assistants-- OBJECTION HEARSAY. Okay but just tell us without saying what the assistants said. See, it's hard because he was texting THROUGH them and-- OBJECTION HEARSAY STRIKE THAT FROM THE RECORD. They get through this long enough to tell us some stupid story about Johnny begging her for forgiveness and her wanting to leave (again) and then thinking it would change. But did Amber draft and send an email to Mr. Depp? OBJECTION HEARSAY. Okay, but Elaine will set the foundation and can we just put up this email? OBJECTION HEARSAY. Okay... but... can she tell us... what she wanted to say to Mr. Depp... in that email? OBJECTION HEARSAY. Amber starts getting dramatically depressed. Okay so we can't see the email but can we find out what he said? Oh he was committed to changing and not drinking or doing drugs.

I just wanted to type it out like this so everyone understood how excruciating getting through this part of the story was for Amber and Elaine.

Next, we get to Dr. Kipper and the nurses hanging out with them, and Johnny is so messed up on them he drops cigarettes on his lap while they're lit (hint hint), and his emotions changed by the second. This broke her heart. :( It got to the point where she was up all night checking to see if he was still alive and not choking on his vomit. Because you see, Johnny was LYING to everyone and purposefully getting bigger doses of drugs to get more high before his detox! You want a receipt? Well he once fell asleep in a chair and she took a picture of it. Which is no different than those other pictures of him sleeping in chairs before, but this is WORSE now.

We're onto the detox though. Apparently during a detox he got UNREASONABLY horny and just wanted to have sex all the time while his body was in absolute agony. Apparently he just screamed sometimes because he was so upset (probably because he wanted his drugs to make the pain end, and she refused to give them to him). Eventually he slapped her across the face supposedly because she made him feel embarrassed and that she STILL feels bad about how she failed to help him because she just had no idea and just didn't know what to expect! But it was actually her idea to leave and Johnny put them all up into her bungalow. Somehow she made someone else's detox all about her which is special.

Blah blah blah Johnny is telling her to be more conservative to get jobs blah blah stunting her career blah blah blah Clive Barker blah sleeping with Sci-Fi writer (who is gay btw) blah blah therapy didn't work because he left and smoked weed. Notable is that Elaine keeps screwing up what is or is not in evidence yet. Total disaster now. Keep in mind that Amber did nude and sex scenes in a bunch of movies in this time despite Johnny supposedly keeping her from doing them. Eventually she does admit to some kind of fault for once when they insulted one another. A lot here can be verified but there's nobody on her witness list that can verify it at all sooooooooo... probably lies?

Lunch break. This is long enough that I'll post this half now. But it gets fucking insane with the other half of this days' testimony.

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