Board 8 > Better call Saul comes back next week

Topic List
Page List: 1, 2
SeabassDebeste
05/05/22 10:00:45 AM
#51:


HaRRicH posted...
Loved the sign-part of that scene, too.

that sign-part is so this universe. their attention to meticulous detail is just unmatched.

also rhea seehorn directed this episode. one of the most visually striking parts of the episode to me was the way kim prepped for meeting with cliff

---
yet all azuarc of all sorts are more or less capricious and unreliable - they live in the varying outer weather, and they inhale its fickleness
... Copied to Clipboard!
_stingers_
05/05/22 11:52:49 AM
#52:


That's cool that Rhea directed it. Is that a common thing?

---
Congrats Black Turtle!
... Copied to Clipboard!
MartinFF7
05/05/22 12:10:08 PM
#53:


Yeah, for longer-running tv shows, cast members getting a chance to direct is pretty common. Fear the Walking Dead and S.W.A.T. each had cast members directing episodes recently, off the top of my head/from shows I watch. Whether it's just a "feather in your cap" situation or getting some directing experience in case that's a post-acting path they want to pursue.

Apparently Giancarlo Esposito (Gus) is directing episode 6 but at a glance, looking at past episode directors, not seeing anyone else who's done so before him and Rhea. Could be some more in the 2nd half though.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Seanchan
05/11/22 8:33:06 AM
#54:


No comments for the latest episode?

Show really making me try hard to remember all the connections to previous seasons that I'd forgotten about.

For Saul, I guess the receptionist has shown up before. Was she also in Breaking Bad?

For Lalo, how did he know about the Germans? I guess the plan is to find the plans for Gus' drug operation as the proof?

So now Howard's got a private investigator following Saul. And Mike's already got his people following Saul and Kim as well. Something tells me this won't end well.

---
"That was unnecessarily dramatic". - NY Mets motto (courtesy of InnerTubeHero)
Congratulations to azuarc, the guru of gurus and winner of GotD 2020!
... Copied to Clipboard!
SeabassDebeste
05/11/22 9:46:54 AM
#55:



francesca is saul's receptionist in breaking bad. she worked for jimmy and kim when they started their little joint venture. never looked jimmy much but respected kim.

lalo tracked down werner ziegler's (the lead construction dude) wife. in s4, he was so lonely that he escaped the compound to contact his wife and try to arrange a meetup at a spa. lalo tracked him down, but mike beat him to werner and killed ziegler. (in tracking down ziegler, lalo murdered a travel agency employee, and mike used that to land him in jail in s5, which is where saul got involved)

i will say, that sequence with lalo in margerette's house was tense, but also.... a little dull

i wonder if howard bearing the shit out of jimmy will have any negative effect on howard - the guy is definitely unraveling though. he doesn't deserve this!

---
yet all azuarc of all sorts are more or less capricious and unreliable - they live in the varying outer weather, and they inhale its fickleness
... Copied to Clipboard!
Seanchan
05/11/22 11:02:54 AM
#56:


Ah okay, that's the detail I was missing. I knew the woman was the lead construction guy's wife and that he had died trying to escape. I just forgot about Lalo being involved.

So, he found the slide rule and saw the sticker from the company that made it and I guess that's the clue he needs? I couldn't put it together myself but I guess we'll get an understanding next episode.

I was undecided if Lalo cares if he kills the woman. I'd say he probably doesn't want to because of the issues it would cause being in Germany. But like, what was his plan if she actually invited him in? I guess promise to leave after showering after she'd left for work.

---
"That was unnecessarily dramatic". - NY Mets motto (courtesy of InnerTubeHero)
Congratulations to azuarc, the guru of gurus and winner of GotD 2020!
... Copied to Clipboard!
_stingers_
05/11/22 3:13:08 PM
#57:


im sure he would've just snuck around while she was asleep. If he got caught say he was getting water or doesn't sleep much or what have you. Im sure he would have no trouble playing it off.

and yeah, the slide rule had the company of manufacture at the bottom and it's a one of a kind thing so it won't be hard for him to describe the item and then do some social engineering to get the names of who paid for it (Ziegler's men). Once he's got their names he'll be able to track them down and do some good old fashioned torture.

i think he would've done anything to avoid killing her because there's no way Gus wouldn't hear about it, and then Lalo will have blown his cover that he's in Germany. Right now he's got the element of surprise over Gus which he needs to keep in his corner or he's screwed, since he's working completely alone.

---
Congrats Black Turtle!
... Copied to Clipboard!
Seanchan
05/11/22 4:11:12 PM
#58:


Again, I don't remember, but I'm guessing the slide rule was a gift from his men?

Good point on killing her. With you having said that, I'm a bit surprised either Mike or Gus didn't think about those loose ends (the wife of the other construction men). They seemingly think of every other eventuality, for them to not think of this might seem like a bit of plot convenience.

---
"That was unnecessarily dramatic". - NY Mets motto (courtesy of InnerTubeHero)
Congratulations to azuarc, the guru of gurus and winner of GotD 2020!
... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337
05/11/22 8:28:40 PM
#59:


Kim may be the one who knocks, but I think Howard has earned a spot on this tier list.

the one who rings the doorbell, perhaps

---
May you find your book in this place.
... Copied to Clipboard!
CaptainOfCrush
05/11/22 11:37:35 PM
#60:


I love how the fight looked exactly like a boxing match between two office workers should look.

---
Yoblazer
http://i.imgur.com/gByqgPg.gif
... Copied to Clipboard!
BlAcK TuRtLe
05/12/22 1:41:03 AM
#61:


Seanchan posted...
Again, I don't remember, but I'm guessing the slide rule was a gift from his men?

Good point on killing her. With you having said that, I'm a bit surprised either Mike or Gus didn't think about those loose ends (the wife of the other construction men). They seemingly think of every other eventuality, for them to not think of this might seem like a bit of plot convenience.
They pretty explicitly explain it in the show when she says they all sent meaningful gifts but noone showed for the funeral, but I saw somewhere that the german writing on the resin said something like "With love, from your boys"

---
Props to azuarc, the current Guru of the Decade.
Wear this title with pride!
... Copied to Clipboard!
SeabassDebeste
05/12/22 12:23:51 PM
#62:


on a different note - they really are slow-rolling this half-season, huh.

---
yet all azuarc of all sorts are more or less capricious and unreliable - they live in the varying outer weather, and they inhale its fickleness
... Copied to Clipboard!
Seanchan
05/12/22 12:49:15 PM
#63:


SeabassDebeste posted...
on a different note - they really are slow-rolling this half-season, huh.

It's 13 episodes instead of the "normal" 10. Apparently they split the season in half (7 episodes, then a few month break, then the last 6), so that both sides of the season would be eligible for different Emmy Award seasons.

---
"That was unnecessarily dramatic". - NY Mets motto (courtesy of InnerTubeHero)
Congratulations to azuarc, the guru of gurus and winner of GotD 2020!
... Copied to Clipboard!
_stingers_
05/12/22 12:50:57 PM
#64:


That's some TV shit man. Hopefully better call Saul 2 can go straight to Netflix so I don't have to watch commercials ever again. That's definitely been the worst part of this experience

---
Congrats Black Turtle!
... Copied to Clipboard!
CaptainOfCrush
05/12/22 9:46:47 PM
#65:


SeabassDebeste posted...
on a different note - they really are slow-rolling this half-season, huh.
I dunno, Nacho was one of the show's major characters (I'd say Jimmy, Kim, Mike, and Nacho were the central four), and he was killed off in Episode 3. That moment left me stunned, as I honestly expected him to make it, but I at LEAST thought they'd save a death that impactful for the midseason finale.

Also, I know we've brought up her ageless beauty before, but Rhea Seehorn just turned 50 and yowza

---
Yoblazer
http://i.imgur.com/gByqgPg.gif
... Copied to Clipboard!
Seanchan
05/12/22 10:05:27 PM
#66:


CaptainOfCrush posted...
Also, I know we've brought up her ageless beauty before, but Rhea Seehorn just turned 50 and yowza

FIFTY?!? Yowza wowza! How old is she supposed to be depicting here? I'm thinking something like 10 years younger. At any rate, she's got a certain understated sexiness that's very attractive.

---
"That was unnecessarily dramatic". - NY Mets motto (courtesy of InnerTubeHero)
Congratulations to azuarc, the guru of gurus and winner of GotD 2020!
... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n
05/14/22 11:20:13 AM
#67:


CaptainOfCrush posted...
I dunno, Nacho was one of the show's major characters (I'd say Jimmy, Kim, Mike, and Nacho were the central four), and he was killed off in Episode 3. That moment left me stunned, as I honestly expected him to make it, but I at LEAST thought they'd save a death that impactful for the midseason finale.
That's the only moment though, out of 5 episodes. It's definitely a slow burn but that's what the show is. It fits the tension building with Lalo too, putting you in the protagonist's shoes. I don't expect much in the next episode (although Giancarlo is directing!) but the finale should be strong.

---
_foolmo_
he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance
... Copied to Clipboard!
_stingers_
05/14/22 11:31:28 AM
#68:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHhGjnzAEqE

Recommend watching this video to anyone who wants to understand Kim better. Great points, besides the ending speculation which seems a little iffy to me, the analysis of the show itself is top notch

---
Congrats Black Turtle!
... Copied to Clipboard!
HaRRicH
05/16/22 12:23:10 AM
#69:


The video's good, but there's a small point I wish it would have made.

When Mr. Acker calls Kim out on being the kind of person who donates to feel better, that feels like a reference to when that judge eating lunch in his office previously told her there are no heroes in these court cases and she should instead donate to charity. She's been getting pushback on both sides of the court on how to bring good with her profession while also getting Jimmy's allure in her personal life along the way. That can warp one's senses along the way.

---
O P E R A T I O N O U S T : Nominate SHEIK!
https://i.imgur.com/OpudFxm.jpg
... Copied to Clipboard!
HaRRicH
05/16/22 12:34:26 AM
#70:


Anyway the show remains exciting and engaging, but I don't feel like the show has continuously improved over and over again like I did with Breaking Bad. I feel like BCS peaked with Chicanery, which was amazing.

I'm predicting Gene, Kim, and Howard all live -- mostly unhappily -- and has the show achieve a different tone from Breaking Bad. While BB was all about the power-fantasy without regret, I think BCS's going to lean more towards the potential for redemption or owning your mistakes.

So hard to tell with this writing team. Love it.

---
O P E R A T I O N O U S T : Nominate SHEIK!
https://i.imgur.com/OpudFxm.jpg
... Copied to Clipboard!
SeabassDebeste
05/16/22 6:55:23 AM
#71:


HaRRicH posted...
Anyway the show remains exciting and engaging, but I don't feel like the show has continuously improved over and over again like I did with Breaking Bad. I feel like BCS peaked with Chicanery, which was amazing.

I actually think the show has mostly improved every season up S5 - Chicanery was the high point of the show to date, and there was a bit of a lull, but S5 was by far its apex

Agree that this season isn't its best though (and I think pretty much everyone would so far.)

That said S2 and S3 of BB were less consistent than S1. Higher highs but waaaay lower lows IMO

---
yet all azuarc of all sorts are more or less capricious and unreliable - they live in the varying outer weather, and they inhale its fickleness
... Copied to Clipboard!
_stingers_
05/16/22 10:36:17 PM
#72:


ok did anyone catch after they had the shot with the guy peeing in sauls office they immediately cut to a big bag of laundry opening from the bottom...which kinda looked like...well you know

that imagery was definitely intentional

---
Congrats Black Turtle!
... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n
05/18/22 10:43:40 PM
#73:


BB S5 was also definitely weaker than S4, mostly because of the nazis. But Lalo has made the later seasons much better. We've lost Nacho and most of Lalo in these recent episodes so I think it feels emptier.

They are definitely saving up for the 7th episode and the final half. The 6th episode was super uneventful even for this show.

---
_foolmo_
he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance
... Copied to Clipboard!
CaptainOfCrush
05/18/22 10:56:15 PM
#74:


Yeah, I wasn't minding the slow burn until this week's episode - I just couldn't get into a full scene devoted to Howard's wife not appreciating his latte art.

And agreed on BB. I thought the final S4 stretch of episodes was the high point of the series and even better than S5's final three episodes. The white supremacist chain gang was just so unpalatable compared to foils like Hank, Fring, and Mike.

---
Yoblazer
http://i.imgur.com/gByqgPg.gif
... Copied to Clipboard!
SeabassDebeste
05/19/22 7:39:55 AM
#75:


i have bb s5 above s4 because it cut out the boring first half of s4 with marie stealing stuff, hank's minerals, and jesse sitting around his house/driving around with mike. the nazis didn't emerge as antagonists until the second half of the season, and hank drove way more of the conflict imo.

as for this week's BCS - it was directed by giancarlo esposito. presumably his job was made easier because he didn't have to act in it

i didn't recognize flashback kim's actress, but it was unmistakably her with the toe-tapping from the opening shot. did rhea seehorn okay her own character's mom?

howard's home life made me sad. thought it was a good scene. the rough one for me was kim and francesca's meeting.

---
yet all azuarc of all sorts are more or less capricious and unreliable - they live in the varying outer weather, and they inhale its fickleness
... Copied to Clipboard!
HaRRicH
05/20/22 1:21:46 AM
#76:


I know Kim's slick, but she just turned onto Bad Choice Road and is about to break bad. I don't count on this going smoothly.

Also interesting to see Kim's mom in this light. She seems like the kind of wolf Jimmy learned at a young age to become...explains some of that attraction.

---
O P E R A T I O N O U S T : Nominate SHEIK!
https://i.imgur.com/OpudFxm.jpg
... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks
05/20/22 5:00:12 AM
#77:


SeabassDebeste posted...
i have bb s5 above s4 because it cut out the boring first half of s4 with marie stealing stuff, hank's minerals, and jesse sitting around his house/driving around with mike. the nazis didn't emerge as antagonists until the second half of the season, and hank drove way more of the conflict imo.

Yeah this is more or less where I am

The last 4 or 5 episodes of season 4 are like, the best tv ever. On rewatches I've been surprised that there's still 2 episodes to go after Crawl Space - which feels so climactic, but even after that there's still another 80 minutesish of escalating tension.

You need the first 7 or 8 episodes of the season to set that up, and it's still very good. S5 has more going for it from the off, though, even if it never has a stretch quite as good as that one.

---
Not to be confused with XIII_minerals.
... Copied to Clipboard!
KamikazePotato
05/20/22 5:03:18 AM
#78:


The Nazis in BB are whatever but they're not the actual antagonists of Season 5. Hank is, and he's the best antagonist in the show's runtime, built up over the entire show's runtime to be the natural endpoint of Walt's poor life choices.

---
It's Reyn Time.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Xeybozn
05/20/22 10:29:36 AM
#79:


KamikazePotato posted...
The Nazis in BB are whatever but they're not the actual antagonists of Season 5. Hank is, and he's the best antagonist in the show's runtime, built up over the entire show's runtime to be the natural endpoint of Walt's poor life choices.
Agreed. It's the biggest problem with BB's finale. The main plot arc of S5 basically wraps up in Ozymandias, but then the cartoonistly evil Nazis are promoted to main antagonists for what's basically a short epilogue. It's just nowhere near as interesting as the previous conflicts in the series.

---
Congrats to 2020 GotD Guru champ azuarc!
... Copied to Clipboard!
SeabassDebeste
05/20/22 12:42:10 PM
#80:


it's a "problem," but also kind of not a problem. it's, as you pointed out, an epilogue - nothing necessarily wrong with an epilogue.

XIII_rocks posted...
The last 4 or 5 episodes of season 4 are like, the best tv ever. On rewatches I've been surprised that there's still 2 episodes to go after Crawl Space - which feels so climactic, but even after that there's still another 80 minutesish of escalating tension.

i think there's a great case to be made that crawl space is better than face off.

---
yet all azuarc of all sorts are more or less capricious and unreliable - they live in the varying outer weather, and they inhale its fickleness
... Copied to Clipboard!
Topic List
Page List: 1, 2