Board 8 > Turning Red now out on Disney+ (marked spoilers please)

(+) Yeah! (+)

I'll watch it later today.

I don't know about this movie but red pandas are fucking adorable.

Haven't seen it yet, but it got good reviews. Good to know that the one usage of red pandas for the next 10-15 years is a winner!

Have seen good reviews and people with bad reviews seem to be getting memmed on hard for bad takes ("I can't relate to this movie because I'm not Asian, why is this movie about Asians??")

Don't know if it's worth reactivating Disney+ though.

TomNook posted...

Haven't seen it yet, but it got good reviews. Good to know that the one usage of red pandas for the next 10-15 years is a winner!

Someone needs to watch Aggretsuko

really enjoyed it, top tier Pixar film

4*Town is my new favorite boy band

Just watched it

Very, very easily a top tier Pixar movie. God damn. I can't believe how hard Disney is screwing this movie over.

The animation alone makes it worth the watch. Luca had great animation and this is not only a step up, but it's moving in the direction of something like Spider-Verse or Mitchells vs Machines which have this very expressive cartoony style I absolutely adore.

I freakin' loved it! So emotional and genuinely funny. God, do I know what it's like to try and be perfect all the time, geez. And the animation was gorgeous as usual. The anime and kaiju send-ups were so cool and not overdone either.

Watched it, was okay. Story was okay (similar but better than Encanto) but dialogue and characters didn't hit with me too well. I'm obv not the target there though. Graphics were really damn good, especially the 2D effects they mixed in. It definitely feels like the movie was designed around the visuals first and the rest was filled in later. The whole fundraising part felt out of place to me.

Also I still don't get why this & Encanto are free on D+ but Jungle Cruise and Black Widow we're $30??

Just saw it, thought it was good

foolm0r0n posted...

Also I still don't get why this & Encanto are free on D+ but Jungle Cruise and Black Widow we're $30??

Encanto wasn't free, it was in theaters for a month before coming to Disney+.

Loved it!

I love the expressions in this movie. The red panda form is really cute!

Anyway what probably happened was Disney was upset that Pixar made a movie that was too controversial with too limited appeal and this was a direct message to Pixar to focus on spitting out more Toy Story movies or something.

Is there actual controversy? Besides dunking on that one reviewer I haven't seen any.

And I kind of doubt Disney is punishing Pixar for creative decisions - from my limited outsider perspective there's a lot of signs they were trying to line up a critical and commercial hit. They've got an award winning producer, it's hyper-targeted to millennials as well as kids, flashy animation, and big name producers on the soundtrack who I literally did not know about until the credits rolled (Finneas aka Billie Eilish's brother producer and Gorrannson who is Gambino's producer and scores a lot of Disney's blockbusters). And then they just. Decided not to market it for whatever reason.

There's always the theory that Disney's punishing Pixar for making better movies than them

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/disney-pixar-same-sex-affection-censorship-dont-say-gay-bill-1235200582/

Well to be honest, given stuff like this I'm almost certain there is a lot of tension between Disney and the Pixar staff we just don't know the details about.

Id seen Turning Red advertised a lot personally. Disney has just been having Pixar movies go directly to Disney+ instead ever since Soul I think. If Im not mistaken Onward was their last theater release and even that went to Disney+ fairly quickly.

Nevermind I misread

Just watched this, really enjoyed it. Love seeing Toronto represented too.

i'm getting very tempted to make this the first new pixar movie I've seen since 2004

This movie was pretty nice but not sure where I would rank it in the Pixar spectrum. Maybe somewhere between Brave and Onward?

LiquidOshawott posted...

Maybe somewhere between Brave and Onward?

That really doesn't inspire hope.

swordz9 posted...

Disney has just been having Pixar movies go directly to Disney+ instead ever since Soul I think. If Im not mistaken Onward was their last theater release and even that went to Disney+ fairly quickly.

Right, and they haven't been telling Pixar about this in advance, they've been making decisions on the fly which leads to weird stuff like the Black Widow mess.

swordz9 posted...

Id seen Turning Red advertised a lot personally. Disney has just been having Pixar movies go directly to Disney+ instead ever since Soul I think. If Im not mistaken Onward was their last theater release and even that went to Disney+ fairly quickly.

Yeah I have been seeing tons of ads for this movie for months.

Anyway I thought it was great.

listing the prairie provinces

oh shit is this set in canada

2002 Toronto to be specific.

that was delightful

It is cute

What what is controversial about it?

redrocket posted...

What what is controversial about it?

Apparently there was a review that said it wasn't relatable due to the main character's background.

redrocket posted...

What what is controversial about it?

It rather directly deals with being a preteen girl - i.e. something specifically relatable to kids that age that offends their overbearing parents. The fact the 'villain' is an overbearing parent adds to their anger.

There's also controversy around a review which called the film unrelatable due to its specific setting and protagonist, but that's more the review being controversial than the film.

I can't believe this movie stole music from Sonic CD.

Some right wing doofuses loses their minds because the movie had tampons in it.

It was fine.

I liked I didnt know where it was going. Kept me engaged.

I definitely was not the target audience for it.

I actually think the outcry over that review was a bit overblown. I didn't find the reviewer's comments to be racist

Movie was alright yeah. You could really tell the animators had fun with this one for sure. Lots of love put into that.

I think the overly goofy style and energy in the animation pulls me a bit out of the emotional scenes. It's a bit hard to explain but it's hard to really get that emotional gut punch because the movie rarely takes itself seriously. I felt the exact same way for Mitchells vs the Machines (since they have similar styles in terms of presentation), but probably even more so for this.

Not that fantasy aspects like people being able turn into weird red pandas can't be engaging and have raw moments, it's just the tone and feel that the movie presented really didn't allow for such things. Most I felt was when Mei was pulling away from her red panda form and she looks back as her form does too.

That being said, it was actually quite funny. Most of the humor with Mei and the kids was a miss for me, but I appreciate the accuracy to the 90s/early 2000s as someone who was also a 90s boy living in Canada.

Ming was by far and away the best character in the film. Most of my laughs came from her and I thought her character arc was a lot stronger than Mei's, as well as just being a more interesting character in general. I wish we had got more with Jin as I think both parents were quite good.

I thought it was ok. I loved basically every animated movie I saw last year (Luca, Raya, Encanto, Mitchells vs the Machines, even Onward) and I couldnt quite get into it as much as any of them. I felt it tried to emulate Mitchells joke-per-minute quirky style to less effect for me, and the story was underbaked. But Im clearly not the target audience

ScepterOfLove posted...

I thought it was ok. I loved basically every animated movie I saw last year (Luca, Raya, Encanto, Mitchells vs the Machines, even Onward) and I couldnt quite get into it as much as any of them. I felt it tried to emulate Mitchells joke-per-minute quirky style to less effect for me, and the story was underbaked. But Im clearly not the target audience

The comparison to Mitchell's is a pretty good one. Similar styles. I feel like this one did a better job of not letting the style interfere with the movie (I thought Mitchell's style ran its course by half way through the movie)

I couldn't get over how big everyone's teeth were

Oh hey its that melania person.

This seems impossible if I wasn't in a spell casting build

Turning Red is a Soulslike.

I'm not sure what the message was supposed to be. They acknowledged that Mei Mei's red panda was dangerous, but she doesn't actually do anything about that and instead sticks with it because fun.

Uglyface2 posted...

I'm not sure what the message was supposed to be. They acknowledged that Mei Mei's red panda was dangerous, but she doesn't actually do anything about that and instead sticks with it because fun.

The lesson is that you need to learn to control your anger, not pretend it doesn't exist.

Oh I was reminded of a plot point that I found confusing, didn't the mom or the shaman said that if the ritual failed to seal the panda, then it can never be contained?

Any criticisms about "limited target demos" - numerous or not - ring hollow to me. I just watched it, and it was very much a coming of age story about trying to discover oneself while navigating the stressful waters of awkward school life and smothering home life. I felt like it was much more about growing up in general versus womanhood in particular; I never saw the "red panda" as a metaphor for a period and thought the movie hardly mentioned that outside of one scene.

I also thought it was pretty good in general, not great. I disliked Brave and thought Soul was meh, so maybe I'm not into Pixar movies full of people turning into animals.

foolm0r0n posted...

The whole fundraising part felt out of place to me.

Same, that was a weird shift. One second, the girls are talking about bonding and supporting each other unconditionally, and the next they literally have dollar sign eyes like 1940s cartoon villains.

Turning Red beated, good movie. Got me to pause my rune factories to focus on it for the last half. I was laughing my ass off from the fundraising, then my Torontonian self was going apeshit at the skydome devestation good lord. Really nice end though, kept well to its messaging on emotions and going your way.

Raka_Putra posted...

Oh I was reminded of a plot point that I found confusing, didn't the mom or the shaman said that if the ritual failed to seal the panda, then it can never be contained?

Worth noting that when Mei asks if that's ever actually happened the response is that it just MUST NOT happen. Given the negative experiences the older generation had with it I take it there was just a strong fear to suppress.

Panda Express was advertising the hell out of this movie.

I saw the trailer and was instantly turned off, after 10 seconds.

The girl with the braces was really ugly looking.

StartAllOver posted...

The girl with the braces was really ugly looking.

Don't worry at some point she gets a makeover and becomes a really hot 11 year old

GuessMyUserName posted...

Worth noting that when Mei asks if that's ever actually happened the response is that it just MUST NOT happen. Given the negative experiences the older generation had with it I take it there was just a strong fear to suppress.

Ah, thanks! I forgot about that line.