Board 8 > Yu-Gi-Oh Master Duel & General Topic 2 [yugioh] [ygo]

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kateee
03/06/22 1:39:58 PM
#51:


davidponte posted...
I was kind of interested in Six Sams until I found out that at the top end they're one of those decks that has 15 minute first turns, so I changed my mind on that pretty quickly.
oh =/

i was thinking about them because they're an older archetype
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davidponte
03/06/22 1:47:34 PM
#52:


I'd love to play them in an alternative format tournament for sure.

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kateee
03/06/22 1:53:02 PM
#53:


it's funny because when i first got back into ygo, Shi En was the card I saw and thought was absolutely broken and a sign that the game was "now garbage"

i mean what can i say but lol
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Waluigi1
03/06/22 3:18:39 PM
#54:


kateee posted...
oh =/

i was thinking about them because they're an older archetype
Yeaaah. I try to be as quick as I can. I had ran an irl Six Sam deck near their peak so I can still pilot it pretty quickly at least. I'm actually just doing my turn, not sitting and thinking for ten minutes at least

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Reg
03/06/22 5:11:05 PM
#55:


davidponte posted...
I was kind of interested in Six Sams until I found out that at the top end they're one of those decks that has 15 minute first turns, so I changed my mind on that pretty quickly.
Whoops. I knew they had an actually infinite loop (And I was thinking it'd be really funny to deck out a Maxx C user with it), but didn't realize that was the norm
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LunaticCritic
03/06/22 7:13:37 PM
#56:


Six sams are swarm deck incarnate;long turns are not unexpected. Though they die to a twin twisters pretty easily to pop their counter containers.

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Waluigi1
03/07/22 2:24:11 PM
#57:


Being able to get out a gateway almost whenever you want is nice.

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Sceptilesolar
03/08/22 5:53:13 PM
#58:


That was a funny ranked game. Synchrons vs Resonators. Opponent got out Supernova and Archfiend Abyss on the first turn, but spewed off Abyss's activation, Supernova got Chaliced, and then I ate all their monsters with Crystal Wing.

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Sceptilesolar
03/10/22 1:28:13 PM
#59:


I hit gold 1 again, time to surrender and demote I guess.

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davidponte
03/10/22 1:32:41 PM
#60:


I've heard that you can now demote from Plat 1, but I haven't seen that yet. At one point I was on a 4 game losing streak and nothing happened.

I remember in the first season, before they made the change, people were getting demoted back to Plat 2 after 1-2 losses.

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Reg
03/10/22 6:08:31 PM
#61:


Sceptilesolar posted...
I hit gold 1 again, time to surrender and demote I guess.
After doing dailies consistently for a few days I'm one win from Plat with a fairly large win streak (7, with another 7 streak before that interrupted by one loss), and I'm strongly considering doing this myself.

I also have 2955 gems because of some unlimited quests I've managed to advance in that span, so tomorrow I'll be pulling 3x10 for the Eldlich secret pack to see what I can finish out there.
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Sceptilesolar
03/11/22 7:52:28 AM
#62:


1000 gems login reward, The Weather solo mode added. They extended the time for the basic packs slightly, to April 3rd, so maybe new cards added after that? Lastly, leaks suggest a N/R only event is coming. That would be enjoyable.

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kateee
03/11/22 10:24:29 AM
#63:


Much needed gems. Blew all mine again

New cards wouldn't really affect anything I'm playing so I wouldn't be too excited but I would get pretty hype if they released a lot more cosmetic updates
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Reg
03/11/22 6:31:19 PM
#64:


I have Ten (10) gems, Zero (0) UR Crafting Essence, and One (1) completed Zombie World Eldlich deck.

(Update: Also 0 SR crafting essence after burning what was left on Bamboo Sword cards and Card of Demise for other decks. Good thing the next event is apparently N/R rarity lock LOL)
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kateee
03/11/22 7:09:41 PM
#65:


niceee
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Reg
03/11/22 8:46:02 PM
#66:


I think my next deck is going to be turning the Utopia structure into something playable (I pulled Utopic Dragon while pulling for Eldlich today, which helps there) since I've already got a lot of that in place, then idk, maybe something off the wall like Timelords, they seem sufficiently silly.

Probably minimum 2-3 months off of thinking about those though, and that's if I keep playing regularly.
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kateee
03/12/22 12:14:29 AM
#67:


i feel like i would almost rather just play around with incomplete decks (with at least like one of the essentials) for a while instead of trying to fully finish any deck. like i'm still technically "missing" one Ash and one Droplet & some other extra deck stuff but i would rather use those points to craft a main card for another deck.
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kateee
03/12/22 12:16:03 AM
#68:


also i finally went and dismantled the cards i didn't know anything about using that meta site and ended up with like 400 SR points. only 40 UR tho.
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kateee
03/12/22 3:50:57 AM
#69:


just had the stupidest game playing Agents against Dinosaurs where i activated Maxx C Turn 1 then the opponent literally special summons 17 times to set up a VFD/Apollousa/other negate board and i still didn't draw any of my 7 ways to get to Sanctuary in the Sky

i mean i obviously don't know how to fully play with this deck/play against that one but grr
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kateee
03/12/22 4:30:55 AM
#70:


heh meaninglessly chaining Called just so i could get the achievement
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Reg
03/12/22 8:03:55 AM
#71:


kateee posted...
i feel like i would almost rather just play around with incomplete decks (with at least like one of the essentials) for a while instead of trying to fully finish any deck. like i'm still technically "missing" one Ash and one Droplet & some other extra deck stuff but i would rather use those points to craft a main card for another deck.
Well, that's why it's "finishing" Utopia. I already have the framework from the structure deck and a few other pulls, and I played around with it during the xyz event.

Regardless, I'm likely to be satisfied with what I've got now (+/- perfecting lists) at least until new cards come out, if not basically forever.
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MikeTavish
03/12/22 8:04:22 AM
#72:


Barely keeping up with dailies because of work and Elden Ring. Wonder when they'll release more cards, I want to try Swordsouls.

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Sceptilesolar
03/12/22 9:04:36 AM
#73:


MikeTavish posted...
Wonder when they'll release more cards, I want to try Swordsouls.

Very much same.

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LunaticCritic
03/12/22 9:59:55 AM
#74:


Currently have a witchcrafters and Photon deck built...but waiting until plat 1 to test them out. Almost there at plat 2, but my luck has been dodgy.

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LunaticCritic
03/12/22 7:19:07 PM
#75:


Finally free, and got to plat 1. Now I can actually have fun...

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Waluigi1
03/12/22 7:23:21 PM
#76:


kateee posted...
i feel like i would almost rather just play around with incomplete decks (with at least like one of the essentials) for a while instead of trying to fully finish any deck. like i'm still technically "missing" one Ash and one Droplet & some other extra deck stuff but i would rather use those points to craft a main card for another deck.
This is me. I keep making new decks that run but are missing a few cards, instead of working on getting the missing cards for the other decks I didn't the same thing with lol

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kateee
03/13/22 5:32:48 AM
#77:


things i want in new update:

some type of older format mode
more bookmark slots i mean come on
more replay slots i mean come on
downloadable replays
ability to change order of cards in deck list
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LunaticCritic
03/13/22 2:15:14 PM
#78:


So, I built a Photon Deck to get the >8000 secret damage mission out of the way, and while it is not meta in the slightest(thus why I am only playing with it after hitting Plat1), hitting for 11200 damage with Prime and Afterglow makes me happy soul. It makes all the UR tokens burned to get it almost worth it.

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Sceptilesolar
03/13/22 3:01:28 PM
#79:


Playing The Weather solo mode hurts my brain, but I like the one with Uria and Hamon a fair bit. Of all the 'we smashed two archetypes together good luck', that's an entertaining combo.

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Waluigi1
03/13/22 3:45:42 PM
#80:


The pre-made decks in Legacy of the Duelist seemed much more thought out.

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Reg
03/13/22 3:50:22 PM
#81:


The loaner decks here are rather well thought out, actually

They're just made with the intent of being as generally bad as possible
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KokoroAkechi
03/13/22 8:19:26 PM
#82:


I just hit Plat 1 with Live-Twins.

Monsters
3 Maxx "C"
3 Live Twin Ki-sikil
3 Live Twin Lil-la
1 Live Twin Lil-la Treat
2 Live Twin Ki-sikil Frost
3 Ash Blossom & Joyous Spring
2 Niburu, The Primal Being

Spells
1 Harpies Feather Duster
2 Pot of Desires
3 Secret Password
3 Live Twin Sunny's Snitch
2 Cosmic Cyclone
2 Called by the Grave
3 Forbidden Droplet

Traps
3 Evenly Matched
3 Infinite Impermanence
1 Evil Twin Challenge

Extra
Link
3 Evil Twin Ki-sikil
3 Evil Twin Lil-la
1 Nightmare Phoenix
1 Nightmare Unicorn
1 Nightmare Gryphon
1 Accesscode Talker
1 I:P Masquerena
1 Underworld Goddess of the Closed World

XYZ
1 The Phantom Knights of Cursed Javelin
1 Downered Magician
1 Divine Arsenal AA-Zeus - Sky Thunder
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Reg
03/13/22 9:09:12 PM
#83:


I've seen a few Live Twin decks in the spectate. The idea of just spamming micro-burn is kind of hilarious to me. gj on plat 1

I'm still surrendering games to stay gold because I'm not sure I want to deal with plat to just grind out dailies relatively quickly and I have no interest in grinding ranked for its own sake
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Waluigi1
03/13/22 9:31:49 PM
#84:


Nice

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Sceptilesolar
03/14/22 6:53:03 AM
#85:


N/R event is announced for next week. They're going to try to ban out the self-burn decks. Also some of the more annoying decks at low rarities, like Phantasm Spiral and Timelord.

Not that I would have run Timelord for this, it seems like it would take way too long. The Shark deck I built for the previous tourney is pretty strong and not getting touched so I'll happily play that.

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htaeD
03/14/22 7:13:26 AM
#86:


They stole this boards idea, clearly

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Reg
03/14/22 7:28:18 AM
#87:


I really don't feel like they need to actually ban out self-burn. Between N/R decks being significantly easier to build than viable XYZ-Only decks and the Win = 10 Losses balance they had in the latter part of that event (As opposed to the Win = 2 Losses they started on, especially), I wouldn't expect to see a huge number of those even if they didn't touch it.

ETA: Checking the full announcement myself, it looks like they intend to ban out burn strategies in general in addition to self-burn, as well as "Other cards that may affect the balance of the event" which is exceptionally silly - A modified version of my ideal Nurse Burn list was on the shortlist of decks I was considering. On the other hand, they did get rid of the idiotic "Loaner decks only give half rewards" thing.
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Waluigi1
03/14/22 6:05:39 PM
#88:


Sceptilesolar posted...
N/R event is announced for next week. They're going to try to ban out the self-burn decks. Also some of the more annoying decks at low rarities, like Phantasm Spiral and Timelord.

Not that I would have run Timelord for this, it seems like it would take way too long. The Shark deck I built for the previous tourney is pretty strong and not getting touched so I'll happily play that.
Would you be offended if I borrowed your shark deck list?

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Reg
03/14/22 6:49:55 PM
#89:


Just out-grinded the fuck out of a floodgate Eldlich player. Feels really fucking good.
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Sceptilesolar
03/14/22 7:13:02 PM
#90:


Waluigi1 posted...
Would you be offended if I borrowed your shark deck list?

Not in the least, but due to the format we were using it's got three URs that will need to be replaced and I haven't decided for what yet. Mostly deciding between Compulsory and Chalice.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/4/8/AADzgHAADB3A.jpg

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Sceptilesolar
03/15/22 9:02:01 AM
#91:


I was playing ranked to demote again, and decided to make progress on the life gain mission while I was doing so. Then my opponent plays Wave-Motion Cannon and Tremendous Fire, and I knew, our battle would be legendary.

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Reg
03/15/22 8:55:47 PM
#92:


So, how come when I google True King of All Calamities everybody says it's important to pick an attribute the opponent actually runs, but when I play a card after its effect is triggered, that card's attribute changes? Is it just to try to seal off graveyard/in-hand effects too?

Shit's banned in the paper game for a reason I guess
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Sceptilesolar
03/15/22 9:10:45 PM
#93:


Reg posted...
Is it just to try to seal off graveyard/in-hand effects too?

Yes

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Reg
03/15/22 9:12:01 PM
#94:


Sceptilesolar posted...
Yes

Reg posted...
Shit's banned in the paper game for a reason I guess

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kateee
03/16/22 2:35:03 AM
#95:


chaining Called By to Pot of Avarice when they only have 5 targets

lol
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BetrayedTangy
03/16/22 3:16:57 PM
#96:


So how would you guys rank the Extra Deck monsters types?

I think mine would probably go

1. Link
2. XYZ
3. Fusion
4. Synchro
5. Pendulum

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LunaticCritic
03/16/22 3:20:59 PM
#97:


1. fusion
2. XYZ
3. Link
4. Synchro
5. Pendulum

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Reg
03/16/22 4:12:08 PM
#98:


As far as how much I enjoy them? It's basically the order they came out - Fusion > Synchro > XYZ > Link - Aside from Pendulum, each one is basically a power crept/simplified/dumbed down version of what came before (Fusion requiring specific monsters, synchro requiring a tuner + level match, xyz just requiring a level match, link not having any specific requirements beyond warm bodies for the most part)

Pendulum is hard to rank, because the idea of play monster into S&T Zone -> Get some effect + goes to extra deck on destruction -> Can summon from there on some condition (Basically, the idea of them as extra deck cards) is actually quite cool. However, the Pendulum Summoning mechanic is generally really dumb even if it might be the only way to get some of those cards out of your extra deck.
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Sceptilesolar
03/16/22 5:48:33 PM
#99:


Synchro, Xyz, Fusion, Link. Pendulum.

Pendulum has way too much going on for one mechanic, I'm amazed they printed it for children and expected it to work.

EDIT: In slightly greater detail...
Synchros are nostalgia. 5D's was my favorite and made synchros look awesome. Many of my favorite cards are synchros.
Xyz are pretty cool, but they've become inundated with free rank-up cards, which I hate. Zeus and its ilk. That stuff shouldn't have been printed, make people use a Rank-Up spell.
I like fusions fine, but they push a little in the cheaty direction as well. Fusion summoning out of the graveyard is one thing, but if you're doing it out of the deck, or from your opponent's field, or not using a Fusion Spell at all, that's out of bounds in my book. Gets away from the original premise. Also when the materials are excessively generic.
I don't have much experience with Links, and haven't played a Link-focused deck. I don't like the linking mechanic too much, though. Mostly neutral.
Pendulums I explained above.

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Reg
03/16/22 6:55:24 PM
#100:


Sceptilesolar posted...
I like fusions fine, but they push a little in the cheaty direction as well. Fusion summoning out of the graveyard is one thing, but if you're doing it out of the deck, or from your opponent's field, or not using a Fusion Spell at all, that's out of bounds in my book. Gets away from the original premise. Also when the materials are excessively generic.
Do agree with this, even though I also kinda feel like they were kinda necessary to compete with Synchros/XYZ instead of just being a dead mechanic, kinda like rituals are without Drytron or similar hard support.

Anyways, anybody up for some casual games to help me learn/fine-tune my ZW deck before I try taking it into ranked for dailies? Will be around for about two hours if anybody's interested.
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