Board 8 > Oh hey Yu-Gi-Oh! Master Duel came out.

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BetrayedTangy
01/19/22 10:25:15 PM
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I know there's a few YGO fans on here. It's out on every console, with CrossPlay for free. I heard the monetization on cards isn't horrendous either, but I haven't actually looked at it yet.

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Sorozone
01/19/22 10:31:23 PM
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Downloaded and played the tutorial. I like the higher quality of just uhh everything. Gonna dive deeper into it tomorrow when I have the time to.

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Emeraldegg
01/19/22 11:28:14 PM
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I doubt I will get too far into it because I am very much someone who dislikes most of the stuff starting with synchros, but I might as well give it a shot and see if I can build any meme decks and such

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Bane_Of_Despair
01/19/22 11:30:07 PM
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They got me with having a Master of Pendulums structure deck in the store as I play a Pendulum Magicians deck in real life lol

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UshiromiyaEva
01/19/22 11:46:05 PM
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As someone who doesn't play YGO, the absolutely absurd simplicity of that tutorial was pretty hilarious.

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skullbone
01/20/22 12:43:40 AM
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I haven't played YGO in 15-20 years so most of these cards are completely incomprehensible but I might still give it a shot.

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Reg
01/20/22 9:36:16 AM
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I also haven't played in probably 10 years (I dabbled in xyz right after it came out, but didn't care for it and just kinda quit playing), but I got this and it's vaguely fun. Especially for free-to-play, it's not the worst use of my time.

Pendulum seems hella stupid based on that tutorial though, and I still don't think I "get" Link even after its tutorial
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Emeraldegg
01/20/22 10:17:00 AM
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the way I always think about synchro/xyz/links are just, they're fusion monsters without needing a polymerization card. It's basically the same thing, you need 2+ (most of the time) monsters with specific prereqs that let you go into another monster. Links with the arrows though are a bit more involved though yeah, I didn't play in that era so I don't quite understand the deal there. I "think" it's that you have to summon a link monster in a special zone and you can't further special summon unless it's to a zone that your link monster points to?

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BetrayedTangy
01/20/22 10:38:56 AM
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Emeraldegg posted...
I "think" it's that you have to summon a link monster in a special zone and you can't further special summon unless it's to a zone that your link monster points to?

It used to be like that, but not any more. Now you only have to do that if you want to summon more Link Monsters.

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kateee
01/20/22 11:09:16 AM
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I've been hearing/reading that you get a free pack once you unlock a secret pack but I am blind so I'm not seeing them. Where are theyyyyy??

Everyone should get the 3 Bundle packs with some of the free gems you get. It's 10 packs + 1 guaranteed (Ash Blossom, Solemn Judgment, Lightning Storm) for 750 gems. That's less than the amount you get for logging in iirc. And normally 10 packs are 1000 gems.
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Great_Paul
01/20/22 11:24:03 AM
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I havent played the real game since Synchros but Im interested to give this a try.

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Sorozone
01/20/22 11:44:17 AM
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So is modern Yu-Gi-Oh now setting up everything in one turn? Played a couple online matches and it legit took them 10 minutes to finish setting up on their first turn so I just surrendered lol

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paperwarior
01/20/22 11:48:16 AM
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I remember hearing Duel Links is quite good except that it's a mobile game that Konami makes money off of. I'm guessing the same applies here. Of course it may be good enough for some people to play it without spending money on it.

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barreldragon88
01/20/22 12:36:20 PM
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Duel Links is not good. Could be a lot better if Konami weren't a terrible company, but I'm still playing it because I suck

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kateee
01/20/22 12:38:19 PM
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It is way more generous than I expected. You can easily build even a competitive, modern deck with just the free resources you get at the start from what I've seen and crafting system didn't exist in duel links iirc so it's way easier to get the cards you want
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Emeraldegg
01/20/22 1:00:21 PM
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Sorozone posted...
So is modern Yu-Gi-Oh now setting up everything in one turn? Played a couple online matches and it legit took them 10 minutes to finish setting up on their first turn so I just surrendered lol
Yes. There is no "per turn" limit on special summons so the meta has evolved to be setting up to special summon a bunch via searching out all the right cards.

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masterplum
01/20/22 1:36:05 PM
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I would be interested if yugioh wasnt a solitaire game

Magic has a ton of issues, but I love the interaction in most formats.

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davidponte
01/20/22 2:05:07 PM
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Not sure if there is anyone else here that still plays the modern TCG or not, but I played semi-competitively until 2016, and then a little bit of Duel Links a few years later as well as the recent game that came out, so I'm pretty well versed in most of the modern stuff, and then learned about Link Summoning.

Anyway, I've downloaded this and have gotten back into it, and man, is the TCG literally just "have and play hand traps or you lose" now? Hand traps only really started being a big thing when I stopped playing semi-competitively, but it seems like the entire game hinges on having them at this point.

I've build up a Monarch deck that would have been tier 1 in 2016, and then also added in some newer stuff to make it better, and I'm doing pretty well online so far. I haven't come across anything too crazy, but I'm sure I will at some point and will have to gear myself more towards the meta, but I'm kind of dreading the idea of having to just run hand traps or lose.

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ViolentAbacus
01/20/22 2:07:15 PM
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The monetization doesn't seem too bad so far, considering I've opened a good 40-50 packs in two hours (despite not getting a single Timelord card)

I see they've gotten rid of even emotes in this game though, so might as well be playing against bots. I miss the good ol' days where I could chat with people in online games.

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Reg
01/20/22 2:08:01 PM
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So if I just try to build a classic-style Exodia (or classic-style anything, really), I'm fucked and there's no way I'll be really competitive?

Shame, since my favorite deck (Simochi Burn) is even more gimmicky than that...
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davidponte
01/20/22 2:10:17 PM
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Also the monetization on it right now seems solid. I built up an entire deck with what they gave me, and I have another 9000 gems sitting around that could probably get me two more full decks. Obviously as some of these rewards start to dry up it'll be more difficult, but right now it's solid.

Tip for those starting out, I would avoid the Master Packs, or any of the main booster packs, unless you have no idea what you want to do and just want to build with what you get.

Otherwise, utilizing secret packs makes deckbuilding pretty quick. If you craft a SR or UR card, then you'll unlock the secret pack that is associated with the card, allowing you to buy from that pack and get all of the archetype. I crafted an UR Monarch, got the Monarch secret pack, and then built out the entire deck using about 3000 gems.

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Emeraldegg
01/20/22 2:12:24 PM
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Is it like duel links where you only have so many per card in a pack, thus guaranteeing you will get everythign with enough gems?

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davidponte
01/20/22 2:16:06 PM
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The regular boosters, specifically the Master Pack, have way more cards in them than a Duel Links booster (from what I recall, I haven't played in awhile), but the system overall is way better, mainly because there was no crafting system in Duel Links. I strongly don't recommend just randomly pulling packs. It's all about unlocking the secret pack for your wanted archetype and building from there. You'll get all of the commons and rares that way, and some of the SR and UR cards. Even if you're still missing a bunch, you can break down other cards you'll never use and craft from there.

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Emeraldegg
01/20/22 2:16:52 PM
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Are you able to view the pack contents ahead of time so you knwo what UR to shoot for to get that secret pack?

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kateee
01/20/22 2:17:14 PM
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No but you can auto dust your extras for material which you use to craft whatever you want eventually
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davidponte
01/20/22 2:18:19 PM
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If you craft an UR, you'll immediately unlock the secret pack that is associated with it, so there's no guessing involved. Craft one of the cards you need, then you can get the rest from the super pack.

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Emeraldegg
01/20/22 2:18:43 PM
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Oh, david said craft the SR/UR, not pull. My bad, I didn't read enough

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davidponte
01/20/22 2:18:44 PM
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Emeraldegg posted...
Are you able to view the pack contents ahead of time so you knwo what UR to shoot for to get that secret pack?

You are able to view the contents, yeah. There's an option to see what's in the pack before you open it.

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davidponte
01/20/22 2:19:22 PM
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Emeraldegg posted...
Oh, david said craft the SR/UR, not pull. My bad, I didn't read enough

If you pull it, you'll also unlock the secret pack, but it's less of a crapshoot if you just craft it.

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Emeraldegg
01/20/22 2:21:17 PM
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I will probably try to build a buster blader deck as that was my main in duel links and it ruled when it didn't brick

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changmas
01/20/22 2:24:58 PM
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I downloaded it last night and copied a basic toon deck (with no extra deck whatsoever), and I'm like 10-5 in ranked and made it to silver rank already. And those 5 games I straight up surrendered because they pulled off some ridiculous combo I don't understand to summon like 5 monsters turn 1.

Trying to netdeck a more competitive version of a toon deck with an actual extra deck but it looks like i'll need to get a lot more crafting materials to make the necessary super/ultra rares. Definitely having fun for now though!

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kateee
01/20/22 2:25:11 PM
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Yeah basically easiest way is to stock up on gems, craft an SR or UR of the archetype you want (30 points). This unlocks the secret pack for that archetype where you're guaranteed cards from that archetype for some of your pulls. Then you mass buy from that pack, dust your extras then repeat until you pull everything or have enough points to craft your missing stuff + staples
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Emeraldegg
01/20/22 6:50:03 PM
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So I see the gimmick now, that a secret pack is only up for 24 hrs after you unlock it. But I got a lot of dragon cards after opening a dragon SR in the opening bundle so I see how it's a lot better about just, giving you the cards you want

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davidponte
01/20/22 6:57:59 PM
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Yeah, and I haven't tested it but I'm almost positive you can make a secret pack reappear later by just pulling/crafting another SR/UR from it.

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Reg
01/20/22 8:02:15 PM
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I built a Royal Magical Library Exodia FTK that's probably pretty janky but I'm satisfied with it
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kateee
01/20/22 8:07:42 PM
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davidponte posted...
Yeah, and I haven't tested it but I'm almost positive you can make a secret pack reappear later by just pulling/crafting another SR/UR from it.
This is true
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Whiskey_Nick
01/20/22 8:13:38 PM
#37:


man YuGiOh is not the game I remember from 20 years ago lol

every match is so damn boring, watch a guy do 37 special summons

it's like it plays itself, what's even the point. I can't see myself sticking with this long

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BetrayedTangy
01/20/22 8:21:22 PM
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I could see it being fun to maybe set up a more casual Board 8 group. Maybe even just playing an older format.

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Reg
01/20/22 8:24:40 PM
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BetrayedTangy posted...
I could see it being fun to maybe set up a more casual Board 8 group. Maybe even just playing an older format.
If this winds up happening I'll build something more fun to play with/against, sure.
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Whiskey_Nick
01/20/22 8:49:19 PM
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I love the idea of slow play decks

like even the pretty basic one i built, can summon way too many Blue Eyes way too fast

I wanna have to use garbage 1, 2, 3 and 4 star monsters etc.

Garbage like Gaia the Fierce Knight or Celtic Guardian


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skullbone
01/20/22 8:50:35 PM
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Based on this topic I'm uninstalling this game without playing a single game. YGO does not seem worth learning in 2022

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MikeTavish
01/20/22 8:59:12 PM
#42:


Spent some time learning the meta and it doesn't seem too bad but you definitely need hand traps and if you don't have them or don't know what to stop you'll be watching people play solitaire for a few minutes on turn 1 if they draw the nuts.

They also said they're going to have "Time Wizard" formats in the game where you can only use cards from before X year and what-not. That'll definitely be fun for an old player like me.

Monetization is almost a little too good, I don't see how Konami makes much money with this considering how easy it is to make decks for free.

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MikeTavish
01/20/22 9:00:50 PM
#43:


That said, the game is way more complex than it used to be so I can definitely see old man syndrome being a thing where a lot of the older players say "back in my day we set a monster, set two backrow and passed!" And quit because it's too complicated now.

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ViolentAbacus
01/20/22 9:09:33 PM
#44:


I play a nice, cool Timelord deck to peeve off all my friends - have for years.

But yeah, I do wish Yugioh would have introduced set rotations so the creep wasn't so bad.

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Emeraldegg
01/20/22 10:11:04 PM
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Yeah I haven't dived into matchmaking yet but it already sounds like it could use some tweaking, with people using starter decks and running into epic tryhard decks immediately. MTGA is pretty good about matching up starter decks with starter decks so I think this could benefit from something like that as well.

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Grand Kirby
01/20/22 10:35:51 PM
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I might be one of the few non-regular players that prefers modern Yu-Gi-Oh to the older format, mainly because even as a kid I always thought Tribute Summoning, Ritual Monsters, and Fusion was always dumb and useless. Back in the day it wasn't even worth bothering using anything that took more than a turn to get, especially if it like would just die to Trap Hole anyway. I thought the Synchro and XYZ monsters fixed that problem and made the game a lot more fun for me.

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Shonen_Bat
01/21/22 3:56:21 AM
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Hit my first combo spam player, the game went so long my switch battery started running low so I fucked off. I had a few cards in my deck to help against that but none of them were in my hand when things got rolling.

Game's been pretty fun aside from that, though. Building a deck was easy enough and the other matches I got were good. I'd be interested in playing casually with B8 if that happened.

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Emeraldegg
01/21/22 11:32:40 AM
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Is there a way to tell what sheen your cards are? I think I got a good royal finish ur but I'm not positive cause I don't know if that's what royal is or not

Also my friend code is 724-506-471. Figure everyone adding everyone would be the best way to get some games in. Looks like you can make a room with several tables, so a bunch of us could get in a room and then do swapsies

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kateee
01/21/22 2:56:54 PM
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I'll post my code when I get home but maybe it'd be good for people to also put what era/ruleset they want to play as well. Since if we're playing as a group we can do custom rulesets. I'd be fine with making multiple shoddy decks depending on what people want to play.

Like Synchros/XYZ/Links or DM/playground
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theawesomestevr
01/21/22 2:59:34 PM
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Emeraldegg posted...
Is there a way to tell what sheen your cards are? I think I got a good royal finish ur but I'm not positive cause I don't know if that's what royal is or not

Towards the bottom of the large list of search options in the deck editor, you can search for glossy/royal finish.
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