Poll of the Day > Florida hospital breaks down hospitalizations of vaccinated and unvaccinated.

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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/4/8/AAb2N0AACzmg.jpg I wish every hospital would put out a little graphic like this. Makes it really easy to understand and see the breakdown.

Lots of hospitals are and it's showing overwhelmingly that being unvaccinated has harsher consequences.

https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/s276bh/hospital_ventilator_numbers_by_vaccination_status/

I had trouble finding the SOURCE... the most recent Halifax Health report I could find was dated for June 12, 2021

https://i.imgur.com/CyQVpu2.jpg

What did your mom's boyfriend have to say about it?

Did their love making keep you up again last night?

Lokarin posted...

I had trouble finding the SOURCE... the most recent Halifax Health report I could find was dated for June 12, 2021

https://i.imgur.com/CyQVpu2.jpg

Are you suggesting that the people that have been desperately trying to disagree with obvious facts for the last two years have resorted to making up their own facts so they can feel like something agrees with them?

adjl posted...

Are you suggesting that the people that have been desperately trying to disagree with obvious facts for the last two years have resorted to making up their own facts so they can feel like something agrees with them?

This is literally from their Facebook page from yesterday lmao. Youre the desperate one who does extreme mental gymnastics when something doesnt fit your narrative.

Notschmendrake posted...

What did your mom's boyfriend have to say about it?

Did their love making keep you up again last night?

Hes not allowed in my house anymore tyvm.

MartianManchild posted...

This is literally from their Facebook page from yesterday lmao. Youre the desperate one who does extreme mental gymnastics when something doesnt fit your narrative.

And yet you provide no link, to say nothing of the folly of drawing any conclusions from one hospital's snapshot from a single day.

Nothing to say about the images I posted?

adjl posted...

And yet you provide no link, to say nothing of the folly of drawing any conclusions from one hospital's snapshot from a single day.

Its Facebook. Search Halifax Health.

Jen0125 posted...

Nothing to say about the images I posted?

I dont use Reddit and not going to comment on something from an obvious bias source.

How are the same exact image type that you posted biased just because someone else showed them to you

You can also search for these results the way you're telling us to search for yours

MartianManchild posted...

I dont use Reddit and not going to comment on something from an obvious bias source.

That image is exactly the same sort of image you linked here: An infographic produced by a hospital to show a breakdown of their current Covid cases. How is that any more "obviously bias[ed]" than yours?

MartianManchild posted...

Its Facebook. Search Halifax Health.

There's no reason you couldn't have linked that, but it does indeed appear to be legitimate.

Of course, that's still a single data point, which means you can't draw any meaningful conclusions from it, but I will concede that neither you nor anyone outside of that hospital's administrative team fabricated that data.

What a flopic

assuming the data is being presented honestly, it just means that on one specific day the vax and unvaxed numbers were about equal

Sorry manchild (fitting username btw), but I'd rather listen to the millions of other sources rather than analyze one day at one random hospital in lolFlorida.

InfernalFive posted...

Sorry manchild (fitting username btw), but I'd rather listen to the millions of other sources rather than analyze one day at one random hospital in lolFlorida.

I thought it was renamed America's Anus? I have been addressing a lot of mail to Orlando, America's Anus, USA.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/4/8/AAb2N0AACzmg.jpg

This shows me that there's barely any difference between vaxxed and unvaxxed. With the vaxxed getting sick just slightly more.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

This shows me that there's barely any difference between vaxxed and unvaxxed. With the vaxxed getting sick just slightly more.

This shows me that you didnt well in your high school statistics class.

yes, even if the vaccine overwhelmingly works - a singular snapshot can still show ineffectiveness by shear chance

edit: and for all we know there are 100 dead patients, since they are no longer 'hospitalized'

More people in the county where this hospital is are vaxed than unvaxed, so the numbers being slightly higher on that end make sense to some degree.

Ultimately, you can't really draw any conclusions from a one day snapshot.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

This shows me that there's barely any difference between vaxxed and unvaxxed. With the vaxxed getting sick just slightly more.

Is that what this graphic shows you? Holy shit!

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

This shows me that there's barely any difference between vaxxed and unvaxxed. With the vaxxed getting sick just slightly more.

adjl posted...

that's still a single data point, which means you can't draw any meaningful conclusions from it

Statistical analysis 101, folks. Also, even if the sample size were large enough to draw meaningful conclusions, you cannot reach the conclusion of "vaccinated people are more likely to get sick" from the data available. To do that, you need to compare these results to the percentage of the non-hospitalized population that has been vaccinated and identify a significant difference from what would be expected from a random sample.

argonautweakend posted...

More people in the county where this hospital is are vaxed than unvaxed, so the numbers being slightly higher on that end make sense to some degree.

Looks like they're sitting at around 58% vaccinated, which means those numbers actually line up pretty well with what you'd expect from the null hypothesis (that is, the vaccine does nothing). As you say, though, you can't conclude anything from one day's data.

Cacciato posted...

This shows me that you didnt well in your high school statistics class.

Yeah right, like the high school I went to even offered that class.

My high school had me choose between calc and statistics and like a dumbass I chose calc. But I did still take statistics in college

You are aware that the amount of vaccinated in hospitals will increase when the majority are vaccinated, correct?

I don't think my high school offered stats, though I did take calculus. I took first year stats in my fourth year of undergrad, though basic concepts like "n=1 is meaningless" were covered exhaustively in pretty much every science class I've ever had that discusses research methodology at all. That's also extremely intuitive: Absolutely nobody is going to roll a die once, get a 4, and conclude that the die in question is more likely to roll 4 than other numbers.

As new strains of the virus continue to proliferate, this is to be expected. This is the natural consequence of not shutting the virus down early on, and deliberately decreasing the efficacy of measures to stop it in order to score political points and make money from investments in relevant fields.

ReturnOfFa posted...

You are aware that the amount of vaccinated in hospitals will increase when the majority are vaccinated, correct?

That's so strange. Isn't keeping people from needing to go to the hospital what the vaccine is for?

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

Yeah right, like the high school I went to even offered that class.

Yeah, I think your original post established that pretty effectively.

Or we could you know just not feed an obvious troll lol

I like how even Facebook does a better job banning misinformation topics than this dumbass site

Cacciato posted...

This shows me that you didnt well in your high school statistics class.

He proved that in the last troll topic.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

That's so strange. Isn't keeping people from needing to go to the hospital what the vaccine is for?

Let's use some hypothetical numbers for illustrative purposes:

-Unvaccinated people have a 15% chance of being hospitalized
-Vaccinated people have a 5% chance of being hospitalized

Now, let's do the math for 10%, 25%, 50%, and 75% vaccination rates to see what sort of distribution would be expected in hospitals, based on 10,000 randomly selected cases:

10% vaccination rate:
9000 unvaccinated cases * 15% = 1350 unvaccinated hospitalizations
1000 vaccinated cases * 5% = 50 vaccinated hospitalizations
3.5% of total hospitalizations are vaccinated

25% vaccination rate:
7500 unvaccinated cases * 15% = 1125 unvaccinated hospitalizations
2500 vaccinated cases * 5% = 125 vaccinated hospitalizations
8.3% of hospitalizations are vaccinated

50% vaccination rate:
5000 unvaccinated cases * 15% = 750 unvaccinated hospitalizations
5000 vaccinated cases * 5% = 250 vaccinated hospitalizations
25% of hospitalizations are vaccinated

75% vaccination rate:
2500 unvaccinated cases * 15% = 375 unvaccinated hospitalizations
7500 vaccinated cases * 5% = 375 vaccinated hospitalizations
50% of hospitalizations are vaccinated

As you can see, even with the vaccine reducing the risk of hospitalization by a factor of 3, the proportion of vaccinated people in hospitals increases as the vaccination rate of the general population increases. This doesn't mean the vaccine doesn't reduce the risk of hospitalization, it means that increasing your sample size while keeping the odds the same increases the number of success rolls ("success" in this case meaning hospitalization).

There's nothing strange about it. This is just basic math.