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joe40001
01/12/22 2:39:18 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/9/2/AACZqoAACzE0.png
Rules:
  • Normal Sudoku rules apply.
  • Standard killer cages: Digits cannot repeat within a cage.
  • Inequalities: Inequality signs point to the smaller digit.
  • Anti-knight: Cells a knight's move apart cannot contain the same digit.
  • Anti-bishop: Cells a bishop's move from a box's center cell cannot contain that center cell's digit.
  • Toroidal Grid: For these rules rows 1&9 are considered adjacent, and columns 1&9 are considered adjacent.


To win either post the solution in this topic or DM me.

Here's the puzzle:
https://logic-masters.de/Raetselportal/Raetsel/zeigen.php?id=0008A2

4/5 Stars for difficulty (fairly difficult).
Rules and the online link to play are found in the link above

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GameGodOfAll
01/12/22 2:51:20 AM
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I don't get it. Where numbers?

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MabusIncarnate
01/12/22 2:52:35 AM
#3:


The answer is 7

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GameGodOfAll
01/12/22 2:54:10 AM
#4:


I actually really like standard ass sudoku, but this is some different type of shit I've never seen before.

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kingdrake2
01/12/22 3:19:59 AM
#5:


GameGodOfAll posted...
I don't get it. Where numbers?


read the rules very carefully. now figure where those numbers go.

1-9.
standard procedure.

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Teh_Dr_Phil
01/12/22 3:20:56 AM
#6:


Dont feed the stable genius anti-vaxxer, CE.

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UnholyMudcrab
01/12/22 3:28:23 AM
#7:


This is the same puzzle you posted that one time, isn't it?

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joe40001
01/12/22 3:31:34 AM
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Teh_Dr_Phil posted...
Dont feed the stable genius anti-vaxxer, CE.

I have the vaccine and am boosted, if you repeat that lie again I will block you.

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joe40001
01/12/22 3:32:05 AM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
This is the same puzzle you posted that one time, isn't it?

Yep, but nobody got it that time, so now I've added a 50 dollar prize.

EDIT: Actually last time I might have posted an easier one. Either way, this one is better.

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joe40001
01/12/22 3:32:51 AM
#10:


kingdrake2 posted...
read the rules very carefully. now figure where those numbers go.

1-9.
standard procedure.

Yep.

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Teh_Dr_Phil
01/12/22 3:34:24 AM
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joe40001 posted...
I have the vaccine and am boosted, if you repeat that lie again I will block you.
lol

you spent the entirety of 2020 and who knows how much of 2021 repeating Fox News anti-vax talking points.

congrats on finally coming to your senses but lmfao if you think I give a damn if you block me

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joe40001
01/12/22 3:38:19 AM
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Hostile, dismissive, and lying?
Bye, Felica

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GameGodOfAll
01/12/22 3:40:52 AM
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What's a knight? What's a bishop? The arrows and the dash boxes?

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MabusIncarnate
01/12/22 3:43:34 AM
#14:


GameGodOfAll posted...
What's a knight? What's a bishop? The arrows and the dash boxes?
Chess moves, like how a knight can move and how a bishop can move between blocks.

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joe40001
01/12/22 3:46:15 AM
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GameGodOfAll posted...
What's a knight? What's a bishop? The arrows and the dash boxes?

A knight's move is a knights move in chess
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/1/0/AACZqoAACzFG.png
A bishop's move is a bishop's move in chess (diagonal)
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/1/1/AACZqoAACzFH.jpg

The inequalities are vertical inequalty signs (such as the '<' in "3 < 7")

The dashed boxes are killer cages, and digits cannot repeat in those.

Keep in mind the grid is toroidal so it loops.

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GameGodOfAll
01/12/22 4:08:59 AM
#16:


Interesting.

So just for starting out, would all these so far work with the rules in place?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/1/7/AALUUFAACzFN.png

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joe40001
01/12/22 4:15:46 AM
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GameGodOfAll posted...
Interesting.

So just for starting out, would all these so far work with the rules in place?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/1/7/AALUUFAACzFN.png

While I won't confirm those are or are not the correct digits in the correct spots, I don't see any violation of the cages, knights, or bishop's rules, however the 1 in the r4c2 seems to be problematic as 1 isn't greater than any other digit and thus it being on the greater side of an inequality wouldn't work.

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GameGodOfAll
01/12/22 4:18:58 AM
#18:


AH. I see. Thanks.

Yeah that's tricky. If there were some set numbers on there to start out with then it'd seem more doable. Still probably mess around with it tomorrow, but don't think I'm gonna crack this nut at 4am.

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Serious Cat
01/12/22 4:19:45 AM
#19:


I'm pretty sure that the title of the puzzle on logicmasters.de holds a clue to the solution. You may even have to color most of the grid and disambiguate using the inequalities at the end.


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MabusIncarnate
01/12/22 4:26:37 AM
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So if I had a question if something was right, would you prefer me to put a spoiler tag on it, or DM you? I'm very new to this, but looking and the rules and being decent at numbers, I think I have a starting point.

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joe40001
01/12/22 4:35:28 AM
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MabusIncarnate posted...
So if I had a question if something was right, would you prefer me to put a spoiler tag on it, or DM you? I'm very new to this, but looking and the rules and being decent at numbers, I think I have a starting point.

I want to be fair to everybody. So I won't answer things that are arbitrary guesses. But general rule questions I can answer publicly, but if you have specific questions that are based on some progress you have already made you can DM them, if they seem like they are general questions I might post the answer in this topic, if they are too "guessy" I might not answer them.

With the rules/link posted you do have everything you need to solve the puzzle. I want to be fair to everybody, so if some terms/jargon is unclear I'm happy to clear that up, beyond that everybody should have an even shot.

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Machete
01/12/22 5:36:31 AM
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What is "raetsal" ?

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Ricemills
01/12/22 5:56:38 AM
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Machete posted...
What is "raetsal" ?

german for mystery/ puzzle, IIRC

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Serious Cat
01/12/22 6:03:48 AM
#25:


https://youtu.be/LWP7LQ_5x3U

This is the type of solving method I'm imagining with a different ruleset.

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joe40001
01/12/22 6:36:13 AM
#26:


joe40001 posted...
While I won't confirm those are or are not the correct digits in the correct spots, I don't see any violation of the cages, knights, or bishop's rules, however the 1 in the r4c2 seems to be problematic as 1 isn't greater than any other digit and thus it being on the greater side of an inequality wouldn't work.

Also, upon further inspection, there seems to be a knight conflict of 7's in r7c6 and r9c7, those 2 7's can see each other via the knights move.

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Turtlebread
01/12/22 6:42:09 AM
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Solved it but wanna give someone else a chance

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joe40001
01/12/22 8:49:54 PM
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Bump

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joe40001
01/13/22 2:00:31 PM
#29:


Turtlebread posted...
Solved it but wanna give someone else a chance

I'm not sure if anybody else is going for it right now.

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NeonCthulhu
01/13/22 2:02:57 PM
#30:


I love Sudoku but that's too much for me lol. I guess I'm just a filthy casual

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joe40001
01/14/22 12:57:39 AM
#31:


@kingdrake2 @GameGodOfAll @Serious_Cat

You all expressed some interest, have you had a chance to give it a go?

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GameGodOfAll
01/14/22 12:59:32 AM
#32:


I haven't made any progress since the initial night, but still have it opened in a tab to give it a go when I get some down time.

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Serious Cat
01/14/22 1:02:17 AM
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joe40001 posted...
@kingdrake2 @GameGodOfAll @Serious_Cat

You all expressed some interest, have you had a chance to give it a go?
I sat and stared at it for 45 minutes and put colors in a few places and made a vague observation on what goes in the cages.

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joe40001
01/14/22 1:24:15 AM
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Serious Cat posted...
I sat and stared at it for 45 minutes and put colors in a few places and made a vague observation on what goes in the cages.

Dang, you seemed to have some good instincts about the puzzle. I'm glad you gave it a shot.

GameGodOfAll posted...
I haven't made any progress since the initial night, but still have it opened in a tab to give it a go when I get some down time.

Ok, cool. Good luck! I'll keep the topic bumped.

Good luck to all, I'll keep the topic bumped for anybody who wants to go for it.

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Ivany2008
01/14/22 1:34:32 AM
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just a quick question, assuming I'm reading it correctly, with the Toroidal rules that means that if there is a 3 in R1/C2, that means there can't be a 3 in R8/C1 & R8/C3?
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joe40001
01/14/22 1:35:50 AM
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Ivany2008 posted...
just a quick question, assuming I'm reading it correctly, with the Toroidal rules that means that if there is a 3 in R1/C2, that means there can't be a 3 in R8/C1 & R8/C3?

Correct

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Ivany2008
01/14/22 1:36:01 AM
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ok, cool

edit: Yeah.... I can't get the break in. I might try again over the weekend for fun, but gluck to anyone who can solve it. I usually play along with Bremstar or Cracking the Cryptic, but at most I can solve 3/5s right now. I put a couple of my own on their discord, only to receive a 1/5, so I have a long way to go lol
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joe40001
01/14/22 2:20:09 AM
#38:


Ivany2008 posted...
ok, cool

edit: Yeah.... I can't get the break in. I might try again over the weekend for fun, but gluck to anyone who can solve it. I usually play along with Bremstar or Cracking the Cryptic, but at most I can solve 3/5s right now. I put a couple of my own on their discord, only to receive a 1/5, so I have a long way to go lol

It's alright, I'm not that great at solving either. I've got a few 4/5s solves under my belt, but idk if I have done a 5/5 yet. But I don't do attempts that often, mostly I just like watching Simon solve them.

It can be really fun setting them, spending a lot of time with an idea and improving on it until it's finally ready to share. If you have links to your published puzzles I might want to take a look.

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Ivany2008
01/14/22 2:27:13 AM
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joe40001 posted...
It's alright, I'm not that great at solving either. I've got a few 4/5s solves under my belt, but idk if I have done a 5/5 yet. But I don't do attempts that often, mostly I just like watching Simon solve them.

It can be really fun setting them, spending a lot of time with an idea and improving on it until it's finally ready to share. If you have links to your published puzzles I might want to take a look.

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Ivany2008
01/14/22 11:42:42 AM
#40:


I did manage to make a couple small discoveries, not enough to break in the puzzle though, and its just because of what I know of doing Sudoku puzzles. I'll spoiler warning it. The center digit has to be odd and phistomefel shows where it can't be in the corner boxes but not enough to tell me exactly where its placed.
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joe40001
01/14/22 11:49:50 AM
#41:


I will highlight this because it is part of the puzzle/ruleset
The Name of the puzzle is "Multi-color Madness!"

And with the link to the solver page I include the statement:
(Recommended: Click the gear icon and enable "Multi-color Mode")

Unless it really stumps people I don't plan on giving hints, but being aware of the title and that suggestion are part of the puzzle/rules so I thought I'd explicitly highlight them here just in case anybody glossed over them.

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joe40001
01/15/22 7:35:35 AM
#42:


Keep alive bump

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Serious Cat
01/15/22 7:44:49 AM
#43:


Ivany2008 posted...
The center digit has to be odd
I spent way too much time trying the other way only because you said that. I now believe it and sort of understand why.

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joe40001
01/15/22 8:45:47 PM
#44:


Bump

I'm debating giving a small hint that might be something some of you already assumed. Maybe if nobody makes progress in the next several hours I might.

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Guide
01/15/22 8:47:57 PM
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Most people don't do this kinda thing, but I might give it a crack in a bit.

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joe40001
01/15/22 8:53:33 PM
#46:


Guide posted...
Most people don't do this kinda thing, but I might give it a crack in a bit.

That'd be awesome.

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Guide
01/15/22 9:19:39 PM
#47:


I accidentally triggered some thing which changed a bunch of numbers into the same number. My day is ruined, my disappointment immeasurable. Perhaps another time.

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Serious Cat
01/15/22 10:18:51 PM
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joe40001 posted...
Bump

I'm debating giving a small hint that might be something some of you already assumed. Maybe if nobody makes progress in the next several hours I might.
I actually accidentally stumbled across a video that might show me how to go about breaking into this one. I'm at the point where I think I know how I'm supposed to be looking at it but don't understand what to do with the information.

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joe40001
01/15/22 11:06:33 PM
#49:


Guide posted...
I accidentally triggered some thing which changed a bunch of numbers into the same number. My day is ruined, my disappointment immeasurable. Perhaps another time.
You can undo with the undo button or with control z. If you still have the tab open you should be able to do that.

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SauI_Goodman
01/15/22 11:12:33 PM
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ok zodiac

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