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Kaxon
01/05/22 11:41:49 PM
#51:


If you're using Mog it should be okay. If you reset his magia and put 100 in magic, his mind will still be 4 higher than his magic. One magic buff that doesn't buff mind should fix it, or just having more magic boons than mind boons on your magicite. Or if you haven't given him mind crystal water yet, giving him magic only will fix it.

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Kaxon
01/05/22 11:45:33 PM
#52:


Fest free sync selection... is Cloud 2 worth considering? It looks pretty strong. My other main options are Shantotto (don't really need lightning help at all, but I do need help with XI DK), Celes for ice chaining, or Rikku.

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LordoftheMorons
01/05/22 11:51:27 PM
#53:


Kaxon posted...
If you're using Mog it should be okay. If you reset his magia and put 100 in magic, his mind will still be 4 higher than his magic. One magic buff that doesn't buff mind should fix it, or just having more magic boons than mind boons on your magicite. Or if you haven't given him mind crystal water yet, giving him magic only will fix it.
He has both waters. One thing thats extra annoying is that the holy sync command is only based on MND, so ideally his MND would be only slightly less than his MAG

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DoomTheGyarados
01/06/22 1:48:49 AM
#54:


Kaxon posted...
Fest free sync selection... is Cloud 2 worth considering? It looks pretty strong. My other main options are Shantotto (don't really need lightning help at all, but I do need help with XI DK), Celes for ice chaining, or Rikku.

Shantotto is busted. Go with that.

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
01/06/22 2:36:06 AM
#55:


Shantotto's kinda hard to utilize in a realm team because she's the only mage in that realm so you'd have to use Mog or Lisette awakenings to keep her cast time sped up. She is tied with Zeid as the strongest FF11 character at the moment, though Zeid being physical lets you use Orran as an off realm.

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Kaxon
01/06/22 3:14:48 AM
#56:


I do have Lilisette's awakening but I would probably use Mog since his is honed and he does more overall. I have awakenings for exactly 5 characters in XI so my team is pretty easy to build: Shantotto, Ayame (also have sync), Curilla, Aphmau, and Lilisette.

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LordoftheMorons
01/06/22 6:24:29 AM
#58:


Transcendent Bahamut Fury down

My clear was over 45 seconds since it took absolutely forever (~30 seconds) to charge the crystal. I'm guessing my team's powercrept defense made the crystal heal slower? Anyway, up to 7/14 of these cleared.

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LordoftheMorons
01/06/22 8:30:36 AM
#59:


Glory ticket #9: 2/10: Eiko guardian, Sarah G+
Glory ticket #10: 2/10: Wakka SASB, Firion OSB

Whats even the abbreviation for the guardian summons? Anyway, thats my first one of those (I have Zidanes LBO though so Im not sure itll be worth the gauge). A healer G+ is always useful, and I have one of Wakkas awakenings and Tidus. sync2+AA1 so maybe physical is back under consideration for the X DK whenever I get around to it.

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Ultimaphazon
01/06/22 9:20:31 AM
#60:


I've seen people call them LBGS (Limit Break Guardian Summon). I'm not sure I like that, but calling them LBG creates confusion with the glints, so you kinda have to name the something different from LBG.

Got Alphi's AOSB and some useless 5*s today. Alphi is good, but I doubt he'll ever have the gauge to actually cast that AOSB, between Sync, AASB and Chain.

Overall, those 14 tickets have been pretty awful. These are my new relics, based on my equipment collection (sorted by obtained, newest)
0 Dyad
0 Sync
1 LBO
3 AASBs (2 of them available with Anima Lenses)
1 6* LMR
1 AOSB
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mccheyne
01/06/22 11:46:04 AM
#61:


1/10 - Garnet LMR1
3/10 - Snow USB1, Kimahri USB2, Paine bUSB dupe

LordoftheMorons posted...
I'm so jealous of this pull...!
I do have his chain, a couple USBs, and an AOSB, so he definitely has a few things to use. I also have Celes' chain though, so maybe I gear him as one of the DPS ice options now.

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Kaxon
01/06/22 12:47:46 PM
#62:


Last ticket gave me a dupe Yuna USB and I already forgot what I got yesterday, it was a 5*.

I have 10 realm tickets saved so I hope we get that refresh soon. Japan got it with the XIII event that's in one week. But it seems like we usually get it a bit delayed.

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DoomTheGyarados
01/06/22 1:10:15 PM
#63:


3 wodins down today whoo

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
01/06/22 3:29:24 PM
#64:


Got dupe Gaffgarion and Ramza USBs with today's tickets, ouch. Other than Rinoa's dyad this was a bad set of grab bags. At least it's safe to get Hope and Coedore's chains now.

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
01/06/22 8:30:44 PM
#65:


Oh geez maybe Raines isn't worth using for Anima after all unfortunately, in the second phase Anima dooms the party and every time you attack him he lowers your doom counter. That sucks, gonna use Rem now I guess.

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LordoftheMorons
01/06/22 8:33:12 PM
#66:


Hrmmm Id really like that Hope stuff on the banner but Im not too excited about Minwu or Wol (I know Minwus supposed to be good but I only have his AOSB and already have two two BDL holy characters)

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Kaxon
01/06/22 8:37:59 PM
#67:


I haven't tried him yet but I think he's only supposed to lower your counter when you hit 6 crystals, right?

I definitely feel the same @LordoftheMorons . I would love to get hope's stuff but have nothing for Minwu and I actively dislike Wol.

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
01/06/22 8:56:18 PM
#68:


Woo-hoo got him!

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/8/9/AADoKzAACx85.jpg

Barely a first hour clear!

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Kaxon
01/06/22 10:10:06 PM
#69:


This guy has a lot of damage reduction. Got him down to 2.7% on my second try so it should be doable.

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Kaxon
01/07/22 2:57:32 AM
#70:


Alright, got it done.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/3/5/AAEagUAACyAv.jpg
I almost got there with a no-support team but ran out of steam. It was great when Ceodore's ultra was giving front row quickcast, but he can't keep up the chain and use his awakening and still refresh the USB.

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LordoftheMorons
01/07/22 3:12:38 PM
#71:


Congrats on the Anima kills

I'm trying to farm Arc and Pecil's HE, so of course the one I effortlessly get 5/5/7 for is Angeal!

I think I actually need to get 5/5/8 for Arc too before fully upgrading his HE because presumably the augment stat is MND which I don't want

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
01/07/22 3:25:38 PM
#72:


You can get Pecil's 5/5/8 from beating magic weak Anima so you can wait on that.

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LordoftheMorons
01/07/22 3:32:44 PM
#73:


Yeah I mostly want Arc and Raines ASAP because I think they should give me III DB and XIII DK kills

(Probably both doable without the new HE, but no reason not to get it first now that it's out...)

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
01/07/22 3:45:07 PM
#74:


You can get Raines stuff through physical anima if you want to try and get the accessory and armor at least.

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LordoftheMorons
01/07/22 3:46:30 PM
#75:


My physical holy team only has 3 BDL and no native chain, so I'm not sure I can even get to 50%

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
01/07/22 3:52:24 PM
#76:


Really? That's surprising considering how many holy knights there are. The FF4 banner is pretty decent with Ceodore and Pecil stuff on it if you have the post fest mythril.

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DoomTheGyarados
01/07/22 3:59:34 PM
#77:


Four argent odins down.

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Lopen
01/07/22 6:09:44 PM
#78:


Man is there some sort of gimmick to Argent Odin Water (Lightning Weak)

I'm having a hell of a time trying to break his rage when it's been pretty easy with other Odins using pretty similar setups.

Currently trying to do it with a physical team using Lightning (Awakening + Sync) and Edge (Awakening + Sync + Dyad) as my main DPS with Queen as my damage support (Sync + Burst for Crit Chance + Chain 2.0) and Fran as my source of imperil and they're failing miserably to break it. Is he just super hard to break rage on when at rage 3 compared to other Odins or am I doing something wrong? Like I'm constantly keeping his imperil level at around 2-3 weak so that's not the problem.

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Kaxon
01/07/22 10:07:32 PM
#79:


With the power of wait mode and HE I got XIII Bahamut down to 0.5%, but couldn't beat him. My last chain ran out and my damage completely cratered for the last 10%.

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LordoftheMorons
01/07/22 10:09:32 PM
#80:


Ouch

Same thing happened to me when I tried except my chain ran out between 15 and 20% and I died at like 6.5%

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DoomTheGyarados
01/07/22 10:20:11 PM
#81:


Lopen posted...
Man is there some sort of gimmick to Argent Odin Water (Lightning Weak)

I'm having a hell of a time trying to break his rage when it's been pretty easy with other Odins using pretty similar setups.

Currently trying to do it with a physical team using Lightning (Awakening + Sync) and Edge (Awakening + Sync + Dyad) as my main DPS with Queen as my damage support (Sync + Burst for Crit Chance + Chain 2.0) and Fran as my source of imperil and they're failing miserably to break it. Is he just super hard to break rage on when at rage 3 compared to other Odins or am I doing something wrong? Like I'm constantly keeping his imperil level at around 2-3 weak so that's not the problem.

Make sure you have infusion when he uses his break?

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
01/07/22 11:20:35 PM
#82:


Are you using a def/res/mind break to overwrite his aegis buff? He also uses an attack that hits uninfused characters with a 70% attack/magic/mind break. Physical Edge and Lighting also have a hard time breaking cap on bulky bosses without a crit damage buff like Orran BSB or Elara USB2.

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DoomTheGyarados
01/08/22 7:58:37 AM
#83:


6/8 magic argent odin beat. Thanks wait mode and me sitting down to plot.

No shot at wind or dark I think lol. Like so little tech it hurts!

Have any of you beaten phys argent without orran or mog tech? If so please let me know! I have a lot of super dps but don't know where to begin there.

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Ultimaphazon
01/08/22 8:37:01 AM
#84:


My typical physical Odin clears were all done without Orran/Mog/Quina

I typically had Deuce with Crit song as my healer in slot 5, a chainer in slot 2 or 4, then either 3 dps or 2 dps and a dedicated imperiler (imperiler in slot 2 or 4).

I pushed to 75% before the Argent Zantetsuken, then just sucked it up and took the dps loss from lacking the Def/Res/Mnd counter, possibly using the second Odin magicite to lower ragr levels if necessary.

For instance, this was my lightning weak team:
Queen (AASB), Edge (AASB), Lightning (Sync and AASB), Prompto (CSB, AASB), Deuce (G+, AASB, USB2)
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/8/5/AAKf6UAACyOB.jpg
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mccheyne
01/08/22 3:19:16 PM
#85:


Took one last shot at banner 5:

3/11 - Noctis Dyad, Ashe Sync2, Fujin Sync1

Yeah thats quite a good draw. Gotta decide which of Ashes syncs to use now. And take a look at my magic wind team to see if Fujin can find a spot, as she has that and AASB

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Lopen
01/08/22 3:39:34 PM
#86:


Thanks for for thoughts. I break the Aegis with Fran's follow up and as all my DPS have syncs so Ive been keeping infusion up.

However I think maybe the key is I have been taking a bit long to infuse and he's been hitting that break, so I'll try it.

(I haven't needed a crit damage buff in any of my clears so far. But maybe I should use Raijin, y'know?)

Anyway that aside

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/9/4/AAAlMSAACyRS.jpg
Did beat Holy odin. Didn't even need Ultimecia's dual Awakening (accidentally used her normal one lol) to beat him my Kefka and Emperor are pretty stacked.

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Lopen
01/08/22 9:43:47 PM
#87:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/9/9/AAAlMSAACyWD.jpg

Physical holy Odin wasn't too bad either

Funny how Setzer is still strong for these things just because of his Aegis counter and entrust

Wish he had a better sync though (not that I have his, but if I had drawn for it)

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LordoftheMorons
01/08/22 10:52:57 PM
#88:


Got Arc to 4/4/8 and Pecil to 5/4/8

I really wish the implementation of hybrid characters in this game wasnt so obnoxious!

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DoomTheGyarados
01/09/22 1:26:00 AM
#89:


Physical wind weak argent down.

Just went with elarra/cait/luneth/cloud/Bartz and shoved it's shit in.

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DoomTheGyarados
01/09/22 5:45:26 AM
#90:


First ... sub cough 30 argent odin. Aria is so busted with her sync lol. Transitioned berserk turn 13 and then tides LBO and mop up took care of phase 2. I hope they implement more wait2 it has really helped me out. It's not available in labs, right?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/4/6/AAOt6hAACybe.jpg

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LordoftheMorons
01/09/22 6:01:52 AM
#91:


No wait 2 in labs at the moment. Based on JP it will eventually be implemented in older labs, but never in the latest ones.

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DoomTheGyarados
01/09/22 6:24:24 AM
#92:


got mander to 50% with my argent team above, not bad for quickly browsing mechanics...!

I feel like wait2 has helped me understand the exact timing of things better and it translates a bit. Now I just need practice.

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LordoftheMorons
01/09/22 11:36:37 PM
#93:


Got my magic Diabolos time down from 35ish seconds to 22 for Dr. Mog's homework

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Kaxon
01/10/22 2:40:43 AM
#94:


Diabolos was pretty annoying this time. I remember thinking he wasn't that bad before, but this time he gave me some trouble. Part of the problem was I didn't have room to save my old team. Oh well, got it done after a few tries.

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mccheyne
01/10/22 10:58:29 AM
#95:


I gotta remember that fight to do the physical version anyway. Only thing I remember is the rift being a thing and somehow having to manage it in phase 3?

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Kaxon
01/10/22 12:34:19 PM
#96:


The easiest thing to do is use Tyro and his glint. Phase 1, put your DPS in the bottom 3 slots (best one in slot 3) and if necessary use the glint after slots 4&5 get fever dreamed. Phase 2 you shouldn't need to do anything special. Phase 3 use the glint once at the beginning of the phase and hopefully kill him before it becomes relevant again. The rift is annoying because if you're in awakened mode, the first attack will kill it, then for some reason the second attack will still target it and you end up back where you started.

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LordoftheMorons
01/10/22 1:16:53 PM
#97:


I personally find it a lot easier to just kill the rift once in P3 and not esuna... he re-dreams you pretty quickly

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LordoftheMorons
01/10/22 5:00:05 PM
#98:


Finally got all of my HCs up to at least 80 (five at 99 and two at 120)

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SSJSephirothGokuX123
01/10/22 6:06:32 PM
#99:


I got 5/5/8 hero gear for Arc yesterday, I did like 4 manual runs trying to get a 5% weapon but I never got one but then I got one with a record marker. Sweet!

I've replaced Rem with him on my manual runs, with the instant cast 1 of his hero gear and the imperil on entry with awakening 1 he can kill bosses almost as fast as Rem, but main reason I want to use him is that Rem already has 100 magia in mind, holy, HP, defense and resistance so I feel like I'm wasting magia on her now.

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LordoftheMorons
01/10/22 6:08:33 PM
#100:


I'm at 4/5/8 for Arc and 5/4/8 for Pecil... I've probably found like 20 of the robes, but only 5 or 6 staves.

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LordoftheMorons
01/10/22 9:57:55 PM
#101:


Yessss 5/5/8 for Arc! Pecils shield can wait until after I farm Raines stuff at least (or actually I guess getting 70% on magic weak Anima might be feasible if the RW chain doesnt hurt me too much).

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