Board 8 > FFXIV Topic 12 - Tales of loss and fire and faith

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tcaz2
01/11/22 2:01:49 AM
#401:


Deep Dungeons are cool content

Definitely needs some refining still (even after Heaven on High) but I'm glad they're bringing them back in Endwalker (assuming plans hold up).
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LordoftheMorons
01/11/22 2:06:24 AM
#402:


Running to 200 is kinda fun

Grinding 51-60 is torture

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tcaz2
01/11/22 3:49:08 AM
#403:


Grinding anything repetitively for hours upon hours is bad, to be fair

It just so happened that its the most efficient way to do it for 17-60 which is a huge level range as well.
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HeroDelTiempo17
01/11/22 9:41:47 AM
#404:


I did my first 200 run right before Endwalker and while it was pretty neat it was also just kind of an exercise in patience and could get tedious. We had a couple of close calls but outside of those it isn't actually very difficult if you know what you're doing. Maybe HoH fares better.

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The Mana Sword
01/11/22 12:58:27 PM
#405:


I've been running it solo, still pretty early in. I don't actually care about getting to floor 200, I'm just trying to level up my weapons enough so I can get the Kinna Sickle for glam purposes.

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UshiromiyaEva
01/11/22 1:09:53 PM
#406:


So just to confirm, will they release another tier of crafted crafter sets later? Trying to determine if I should bother pentamelding if a I'm going to gave to risk retrieving the Materia later anyways and I'm not crafting the current sets.

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HeroDelTiempo17
01/11/22 1:11:42 PM
#407:


Ah yeah I've seen quote a few PotD scythes. Gotta love early expansion where there's no good glam weapons for the new jobs. Did we really not get any new crafted EX ones with the new recipes?

Either way, it's an absolute shame they got to Hades already, that would have been perfect for Reaper.

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The Mana Sword
01/11/22 1:17:19 PM
#408:


I'm also gonna have to do Eureka for other glam pieces I want so RIP me

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Dels
01/11/22 1:18:48 PM
#409:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
So just to confirm, will they release another tier of crafted crafter sets later? Trying to determine if I should bother pentamelding if a I'm going to gave to risk retrieving the Materia later anyways and I'm not crafting the current sets.

they will release new left-side gear in 6.1

you can penta-meld the right-side gear freely, a full new left/right set will come out in 6.3
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LordoftheMorons
01/11/22 1:19:23 PM
#410:


Oh god solo PotD

Ive done a few runs and the furthest Ive been able to get is floor 90. Very stressful and not worth it imo.

Eureka, on the other hand, is very fun!

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HeroDelTiempo17
01/11/22 1:22:11 PM
#411:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
So just to confirm, will they release another tier of crafted crafter sets later? Trying to determine if I should bother pentamelding if a I'm going to gave to risk retrieving the Materia later anyways and I'm not crafting the current sets.

If it follows the pattern of previous sets, we will get a new left side and tools in 6.1 and another new set including accs in 6.3, which will be BiS for the expansion. I believe that scrip gear is on even patches as the catch-up gear but am not sure. Because accs stay the same for a whole year, and scrip accs are usually trash, pentamelding them is high value. If you're especially cheap you can squeeze even more time out of them if you invest a bit on melding now to try and skip a set later.

I would not go super hard on melding until 6.3 but you still want to meld a little. You need to hit recipe minimums and the next set will be slightly higher. Although we don't know what that will be so safest thing is always to save materia now and remeld when we do.

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The Mana Sword
01/11/22 2:51:06 PM
#412:


Is it typical to have to reset a bunch until you get your aetherpool gear up a bit? I should probably not really be doing this solo anyway, I suppose.

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LordoftheMorons
01/11/22 2:54:48 PM
#413:


Yes, that's typical

And yeah I forgot about it but your aetherpool being low makes soloing even less viable. Ideally get some friends to help you grind it out, but even just joining the queue should be considerably quicker than trying to solo it.

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LordoftheMorons
01/11/22 2:57:00 PM
#414:


If you do stick with soloing, it's important to pretty much kill every enemy you see until you get to level 60 (not being as high leveled as possible isn't a big deal in a group). Also hug the walls to avoid traps.

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The Mana Sword
01/11/22 2:57:10 PM
#415:


I made it to level 40 after my first reset, but died to the boss. It wasn't hard, per-se, but definitely tedious.

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Dantezoid
01/11/22 3:27:15 PM
#416:


Yeah I've never made a deep run solo since it just takes SO LONG until it gets interesting

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Radix
01/11/22 3:53:02 PM
#417:


current Stormblood progress/checklist

MSQ: finished 4.1
optional dungeons: all finished unless more unlock with patches
trials: havent done rathalos, dont know if theres more
dumm yellow quests: all finished unless more unlock with patches
beast tribes: finished. will namazu all crafters up to 70 only 2 left to do
omega: finished
ivalice: 2nd raid is unlocked
four lords: not unlocked yet
hildibrand: not started

anything im forgetting? i know theres heaven on high and eureka but im not gonna bother with them yet

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The Mana Sword
01/11/22 4:53:36 PM
#418:


Just went through 1-50 in PF and yeah that was a lot faster lol. Although my 41-50 party was baffling me clearing out every room for seemingly no reason. Once everyone is 60, there's no real reason to go into rooms with gold chests, right? Unless I'm unaware of something?

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Isquen
01/11/22 4:57:23 PM
#419:


So I'm leveling MNK at 78 right now, and... what the hell is my rotation optimization? Immediate Perfect Balance/Brotherhood/Fire/Wind -> Twin Snakes -> Dragon Kick -> Bootshine -> whatever the 2+1 Blitz is, Dragon Kick, Perfect Balance, Demolish, Twin Snakes, Bootshine, followup?

I cant juggle my buffs and debuffs and my smoothbrain.

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LordoftheMorons
01/11/22 5:00:09 PM
#420:


The Mana Sword posted...
Just went through 1-50 in PF and yeah that was a lot faster lol. Although my 41-50 party was baffling me clearing out every room for seemingly no reason. Once everyone is 60, there's no real reason to go into rooms with gold chests, right? Unless I'm unaware of something?
For a run through the queue the only thing I can think of is looking for silver chests. Some people just refuse to let chests be, though.

For runs with a fixed party you do want to get a full inventory of pomanders in the earlier floors where its easier

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UshiromiyaEva
01/11/22 6:54:01 PM
#421:


Got 2 lines. WT reward counts towards your weekly Astronomy tomestone cap??

LAAAAAAME I wouldn't have even bothered taking it if I knew that, makes that reward worse than the 500 Aphorism from 1 line!

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Dels
01/11/22 6:59:11 PM
#422:


Isquen posted...
So I'm leveling MNK at 78 right now, and... what the hell is my rotation optimization? Immediate Perfect Balance/Brotherhood/Fire/Wind -> Twin Snakes -> Dragon Kick -> Bootshine -> whatever the 2+1 Blitz is, Dragon Kick, Perfect Balance, Demolish, Twin Snakes, Bootshine, followup?

I cant juggle my buffs and debuffs and my smoothbrain.

i'm pretty sure you wanna start with a basic combo to get your buff/dot up, then go into PB, and the first PB will be matching-3 one, so just three opo-opo (boots/kicks) like old monk

the second PB window is where you do different-3

i could be wrong, i'm sure this covers it:
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agesboy
01/11/22 7:00:11 PM
#423:


there is absolutely positively no way whatsoever to break the 450/week cap, yeah

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The Mana Sword
01/12/22 12:41:04 PM
#424:


Alright, did PotD runs up to floor 100. Now I just need *checks notes* 50 more weapon levels to get the Kinna weapon.

I assume just rerunning 51-60 forever is the most efficient way to grind those out? And then trading in for a grip every time I hit 50 or so?

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UshiromiyaEva
01/12/22 2:29:29 PM
#425:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/9/1/AAeolZAACzLD.jpg

OMG

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The Mana Sword
01/12/22 3:24:18 PM
#426:


The Mana Sword posted...
Just went through 1-50 in PF and yeah that was a lot faster lol. Although my 41-50 party was baffling me clearing out every room for seemingly no reason. Once everyone is 60, there's no real reason to go into rooms with gold chests, right? Unless I'm unaware of something?

In a reversal of this, all the parties I'm running into now in 51-60 that completely ignore every chest, including silvers, is really frustrating. I get not checking every room, but if you're running past it, at least open it!

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Dantezoid
01/12/22 3:43:00 PM
#427:


Those people are farming exp, and don't care about aetherpool levels (either high enough or just don't care) so they skip chests to avoid mimics

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The Mana Sword
01/12/22 3:48:30 PM
#428:


Silver chests can't be mimics!

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Isquen
01/12/22 3:58:56 PM
#429:


Silver chests, instead, explode people when they're duds. Good for a laugh if your green DPS wont top people off in a full fight.

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The Mana Sword
01/12/22 4:06:11 PM
#430:


Also my Aetherpool level ups have been so unbalanced. I have enough weapon levels for my Kinna weapon, but I still need 20 more armor levels lol

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UshiromiyaEva
01/12/22 4:14:34 PM
#431:


So am I missing something, or are Sage's single target Adder heals just...SUPER underwhelming? I feel like it barely does a thing even with Zoe. Is that just what barrier healing is like? I never ran Scholar past level 50, and I only ever ran Diurnal Astro.

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LordoftheMorons
01/12/22 4:24:44 PM
#432:


The Mana Sword posted...
Alright, did PotD runs up to floor 100. Now I just need *checks notes* 50 more weapon levels to get the Kinna weapon.

I assume just rerunning 51-60 forever is the most efficient way to grind those out? And then trading in for a grip every time I hit 50 or so?
I've never done it since reducing aetherpool sounds like a huge pain in the ass, but I'd hold off on trading it in until you're no longer reliably getting upgrades from silver chests on 51-60.

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agesboy
01/12/22 4:37:13 PM
#433:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
So am I missing something, or are Sage's single target Adder heals just...SUPER underwhelming? I feel like it barely does a thing even with Zoe. Is that just what barrier healing is like? I never ran Scholar past level 50, and I only ever ran Diurnal Astro.
You generally should not use Druchole, the freely spammable adder heal, unless you need to avoid overcapping to maintain mana. Once you get Ixochole's upgrade (level 82 I think?) you should use that super aggressively (using it for just the tank is fine too), and you should use Taurochole to help the tank maintain more mitigation uptime between Ixocholes.

Kardia should be the majority of your single target healing, and try to maintain the tank's hp between 40% and 60% so they have room to heal themselves freely. Druchole is definitely weaker than Lustrate but on the flip side you have so many more tools that aren't reliant on adder stacks. Don't forget to use Physis aggressively too, even if it just heals the tank.

Also, Zoe doesn't affect oGCDs, fyi. It only affects healing spells, not healing abilities. You're generally gonna pair it with Pneuma whenever possible at 90, but also just generally use it pretty freely (and try not to use it when you'd consume the shield with pepsis, cuz pepsis doesn't care about zoe)

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UshiromiyaEva
01/12/22 5:12:22 PM
#434:


Oh shit, didn't know that about Zoe.

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JonThePenguin
01/13/22 8:20:32 AM
#435:


Oh hey, Halloween next week. Whos up for a clown glam?

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/special/2022/All_Saints_Wake/rjk7wevhuy?fbclid

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UshiromiyaEva
01/13/22 9:03:02 AM
#436:


I hope there a way to get the ghost again

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UshiromiyaEva
01/13/22 11:00:36 AM
#437:


I've done Warrior for level 90 content a few times now for quick queue roulette, and uh....

Bloodwhetting is, like.....way too fucking good??

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Isquen
01/13/22 11:03:29 AM
#438:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
I've done Warrior for level 90 content a few times now for quick queue roulette, and uh....

Bloodwhetting is, like.....way too fucking good??

Bloodwhetting is what those baby melee DPS WISH Bloodbath could be.

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tcaz2
01/13/22 11:45:38 AM
#439:


Bloodwhetting is absolutely absurd

I wish I liked Warrior more than I do because its super good right now. At least Gunbreaker is fine which is my current favorite tank.
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GANON1025
01/13/22 11:58:41 AM
#440:


Im leveling WAR right now excited to try it once I get the full kit! Ive been venturing into more harder content with PLD, starting with the expert roulette. Its been fun, I do well at pretty much everything besides the first boss of Dead Ends

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Steiner
01/13/22 12:02:02 PM
#441:


GANON1025 posted...
Its been fun, I do well at pretty much everything besides the first boss of Dead Ends

on that note - i'm terrified to hit that dungeon again with players, i died on that boss like 6 times on my trust run through, so far my daily roulette has hit stigma dreamscape nearly every day with only a couple of smiletons but I know i'll have to do it again soon

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UshiromiyaEva
01/13/22 12:07:16 PM
#442:


That dungeon is either a cakewalk or a nightmare depending on whether or not the people know what they're doing.

Let's be careful with the dungeon names, though.

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The Mana Sword
01/13/22 1:15:43 PM
#443:


I still mess up on the first boss of that dungeon, and I've probably run it like 20 times.

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The Mana Sword
01/13/22 1:57:50 PM
#444:


I didn't realize how much some of this gear that can drop from PotD boxes can go for. People are horny for Thavnairian Tights.

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JonThePenguin
01/14/22 4:23:54 AM
#445:


https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/9a6bed5c06ae511c363ece5ead0a98a3986554a2

Big post on data center expansion in all regions.

TLDR:
Oceanias DC scheduled to open on Jan. 25
DC visits within your region scheduled for a 6.1x update
JP having a fourth DC added but no new worlds, just splitting the current 10:11:11 into 8:8:8:8, planned for July
NA getting a fourth DC starting with four new worlds in August, then four more at an unspecified later date
EU getting four new worlds in July, two in each of the current DCs, and then at an unspecified later date another DC to be added with eight new worlds
Game going back on sale Jan. 25 at 5PM Japan time

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UshiromiyaEva
01/14/22 10:22:02 AM
#446:


The incentives to start a new character and especially to MOVE your character to the Oceanic Data Center are....extreme.

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Luis_Sera89
01/14/22 10:37:18 AM
#447:


Yeah, that's pretty typical of the incentives offered to move to a newly opened world. You have to make it worthwhile, especially if someone already has roots in their existing world, like an FC, static or housing.

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LordoftheMorons
01/14/22 2:10:48 PM
#448:


Hoping my Australian friends in my fc dont bail!

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HeroDelTiempo17
01/14/22 3:01:02 PM
#449:


I kind of wonder how Oceania is going to play out because it's meant to serve Australia as well as the entirety of SEA, right? From what I understand SEA uses the JP servers and this is being done just as much to free up space there as it is for QOL to non-local players. And I'm assuming Aus and NZ are currently a mix of JP and NA players? Throwing that all together creates a uh...interesting culture clash in terms of playerbase habits. Specifically thinking of exporting Aether's party finder culture to other regions and weeping for those poor souls being newly subjected to it.

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Not_an_Owl
01/14/22 3:05:14 PM
#450:


My suspicion is that the OCE datacenter is primarily going to host casual players as well as any new players from the region, while more established AUS/NZ/SEA players (especially serious raiders) are going to stay where they are because they already have pretty firm roots on NA/Tonberry.

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