Board 8 > FFXIV Topic 12 - Tales of loss and fire and faith

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UshiromiyaEva
12/28/21 2:34:36 AM
#101:


FemC for life.

Blue Mage to 39, super monotonous but not as bad as I expected.

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agesboy
12/28/21 2:45:32 AM
#102:


blue mage is super easy to level if you duo it

still need to level mine to 70 so i'd be down for some powerlevelling sometime

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UshiromiyaEva
12/29/21 4:13:39 PM
#103:


Just got Sam to cap and the burst window potential with this thing is absolutely disgusting.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/29/21 4:20:10 PM
#104:


Nothing like getting a couple pots of Jet Black dye from a retainer quick venture and making a cool 1.2 million Gil.

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tcaz2
12/29/21 4:35:34 PM
#105:


Catching up on Crafting Job Quests right now (also wow they give good XP even 80+, like 1-3 mil for Stormblood ones). I really liked the Leatherworker both HW and StB ones. It's not Alchemist (which so far definitely had the best) but they were still fairly enjoyable.

Probably gonna do Goldsmithing ones next.

I've done all the ARR ones now just going through the HW and StB ones I never did.

Also at level 86 Ninja so should be doing the final combat Role Quest I have left soon (I usually do them when I hit 89)
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BK_Sheikah00
12/29/21 8:57:03 PM
#106:


Samurai is sadness when people forget to keep raid buffs lined up :c

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tcaz2
12/29/21 8:59:59 PM
#107:


Maybe you should stop being selfish and just get some raid buffs yourself! You ever think of that?? HUH??
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HeroDelTiempo17
12/29/21 9:27:32 PM
#108:


tcaz2 posted...
Maybe you should stop being selfish and just get some raid buffs yourself! You ever think of that?? HUH??

Samurais already have access to raid buffs and selfish DPS, they just have to equip their Reaper job stone

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agesboy
12/29/21 10:53:08 PM
#109:


gonna be online for at least about the next hour doing roulettes, feel free to @ me for cwls invites (/tell baldr sky@hyperion)
HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
Samurais already have access to raid buffs and selfish DPS, they just have to equip their Reaper job stone
samurai's raid buff is doing SICK ASS DPS

...ideally, idk meta atm

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UshiromiyaEva
12/29/21 10:55:10 PM
#110:


Samurai has a raid buff.

Feint.

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HeroDelTiempo17
12/29/21 11:13:37 PM
#111:


agesboy posted...
samurai's raid buff is doing SICK ASS DPS

...ideally, idk meta atm

the joke is that reaper outputs samurai-level dps and also has a raid buff

it's uh, kinda just objectively the best dps currently

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UshiromiyaEva
12/29/21 11:14:31 PM
#112:


It's also stupid easy to play.

Reaper nerfs on Tuesday gonna be depressing.

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agesboy
12/29/21 11:18:11 PM
#113:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
the joke is that reaper outputs samurai-level dps and also has a raid buff

it's uh, kinda just objectively the best dps currently
thats definitely gonna eat at least a potency nerf

u gotta conform to yoship's vision or perish

iirc early shadowbringers, ninjas figured out a rotation that was slightly more potency than intended and it died before first savage

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mccheyne
12/29/21 11:42:34 PM
#114:


Will likely be on tomorrow morning, if any of the linkshell admins are on!

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BK_Sheikah00
12/30/21 12:37:27 AM
#115:


They won't nerf reaper. They'll buff the others instead. Samurai should absolutely not be behind reaper and monk.

And most definitely paladin. The gap between it and Dark Knight is ridiculous.

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agesboy
12/30/21 1:20:13 AM
#116:


BK_Sheikah00 posted...
And most definitely paladin. The gap between it and Dark Knight is ridiculous.
if anything they HAVE to buff drk's sustain

drk is absolutely the shit choice atm because everyone has better mitigation/ehp buttons now and the one thing drk has is opener dps which... doesn't actually matter

paladin still seems the best choice for a raid 2nd tank option (behind ideally warrior, but gnb can slot in there alright)

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MikeTavish
12/30/21 2:25:40 AM
#117:


mccheyne posted...
Will likely be on tomorrow morning, if any of the linkshell admins are on!


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Isquen
12/30/21 3:00:13 PM
#118:


15 minutes until Chi.

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Dels
12/30/21 3:24:48 PM
#119:


agesboy posted...


iirc early shadowbringers, ninjas figured out a rotation that was slightly more potency than intended and it died before first savage

well, there is currently a 99 parse on BLM for the first extreme trial that doesn't cast a single Fire IV

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Dels
12/30/21 3:25:52 PM
#120:


the rotation is Blizzard III -> Paradox -> Transpose -> Paradox -> Despair -> Repeat
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UshiromiyaEva
12/30/21 3:45:55 PM
#121:


I've never turned on the join duty in progress option. I'm assuming you would still get full roulette credit?

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Dels
12/30/21 3:53:12 PM
#122:


yes
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HeroDelTiempo17
12/30/21 6:24:21 PM
#123:


You get full credit for the roulette but you miss out on anything you missed from the duty itself, ie exp, loot, and tomes from bosses.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/30/21 8:32:51 PM
#124:


Quick casual play opinions on the jobs I've gotten to cap so far, besides RDM since aibdid a big thing for that.

Paladin - The new Sentinel is great, love to use it. The best think about new Paladin though is just how much cleaner it is. The rotation is so on point, lines up like a fucking DREAM.

Warrior - Still think this is boring as heck. I just don't like playing Warrior. The AoE upheavel is a nice addition as any new expansion adding an AoE variant to a single target meter spender from a pervious expansion is (or vice versa), but...yeah the Fell Cleave phase does nothing for me, and I think if that's the case for you then nothing else about Warrior is a draw. Pretty funny how insane it's dungeon survivability is though.

Reaper - Busted, satisfying to use, easy recovery....I don't really have anything negative to say at all. Enjoy it while it lasts. I just don't like it as much as Samurai at a base level, but that's not a dog against it.

Samurai - At this point, at level 90, definitely the most satisfying job to play through all of XIV for me after hitting 90. An AoE for a meditation stacks, getting rid of it's come AoE, another big fucking damage button that counts as an Iajutsu....this is some goooooooood shit. My only complaint is that SAM is getting a button bloat issue. Considering how or works, bit sure why Ikishoten doesn't just turn into Ogi Namakiri.

Mechanist - Basically no different that Shadowbringers MCH. Chainsaw feels good, especially in dungeons, but for single target the only difference between then and now for the job is getting your Queen more z often. Not exactly an interesting upgrade, but I liked MCH a ton in the first place.

Summoner - Basically the exact opposite of Summoner before. Insanely rigid and insanely easy to play. I'm not going to be surprised if the gap in the parse range for SMN for Savage ends up being the smallest for any DPS class in the game. I don't know how someone could ply this particularly good or particularly bad. Can see why people would be bored, but boy do I personally think it's waaaaaay better.

Scholar - lol I didn't play this.

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X_Dante_X
12/30/21 9:05:22 PM
#125:


do you mean shelltron for paladin? Sentinel hasn't changed since 5.1. If so, i agree it feels good to get the healing instead of just block

honestly i feel like the ShB rotation was cleaner for PLD (three equal sections), but it's mostly the same (i think its technically optimal atm to actually drop an atonement right now before FoF comes up on purpose so you use FoF more often, but honestly its not a huge deal if you don't)

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UshiromiyaEva
12/30/21 9:16:16 PM
#126:


Woops, yeah meant Shelton.

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The Mana Sword
12/30/21 10:03:31 PM
#127:


spent the past week leveling all my crafters from 20-80.

The last stretch is going to be painful. Stupid hides.

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BK_Sheikah00
12/30/21 10:28:13 PM
#128:


Bicolors

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BK_Sheikah00
12/30/21 10:31:04 PM
#129:


X_Dante_X posted...
do you mean shelltron for paladin? Sentinel hasn't changed since 5.1. If so, i agree it feels good to get the healing instead of just block

honestly i feel like the ShB rotation was cleaner for PLD (three equal sections), but it's mostly the same (i think its technically optimal atm to actually drop an atonement right now before FoF comes up on purpose so you use FoF more often, but honestly its not a huge deal if you don't)
The 30 sec Sword Oath isn't that big of deal though it's nice. But being able to pop Req early is what feels really good.

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The Mana Sword
12/30/21 10:41:53 PM
#130:


BK_Sheikah00 posted...
Bicolors

I mean, yes, but it's still not a fast solution!

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CoolCly
12/30/21 11:05:02 PM
#131:


What's a good tank to begin with? Might have some friends starting the MSQ soon so I might pick a tank to play with them and learn early dungeons with. I was leaning Dark Knight because EDGY but apparently its not that good except for DPS and has no self sustain, which is a good feature for a tank to have. Apparently Warriors are amazing at that?

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LordoftheMorons
12/30/21 11:07:29 PM
#132:


Paladin or Warrior because they start at level 1

Oh actually if youre starting with the early dungeons anyway I guess it doesnt matter. I dont like that WAR has a cone aoe, but other than that its pretty simple.

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tcaz2
12/30/21 11:09:11 PM
#133:


You can't really go wrong with any of them. Meta isn't going to matter while you're leveling (in fact it barely matters at endgame too), and Dark Knight has one of the best Job stories in the game, too (written by the lead ShB/EW writer).

Also things are likely to get buffed/nerfed in less than a week when Savage and the balance patch hit anyway.
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CoolCly
12/30/21 11:11:29 PM
#134:


Why? It's not like I'll be holding their hands running around with them the whole way in the open world. I already tried that with Gladiator with another friend that was playing Gladiator and even playing the same class as him it didn't feel like we were playing cooperatively at all - he's doing MSQ stuff that leads into cutscenes while I'm running circles around him trying to do sidequests. I gave up at like level 10-15

I'm pretty much just expecting to do some dungeons which DRK and GNB should be able to just scale down to? And then run circles around them in the open world with my high level classes to show off my outfits

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CoolCly
12/30/21 11:14:00 PM
#135:


tcaz2 posted...
You can't really go wrong with any of them. Meta isn't going to matter while you're leveling (in fact it barely matters at endgame too), and Dark Knight has one of the best Job stories in the game, too (written by the lead ShB/EW writer).

Also things are likely to get buffed/nerfed in less than a week when Savage and the balance patch hit anyway.


aww shit sounds like I have to become what I must.

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LordoftheMorons
12/30/21 11:14:06 PM
#136:


CoolCly posted...
Why? It's not like I'll be holding their hands running around with them the whole way in the open world. I already tried that with Gladiator with another friend that was playing Gladiator and even playing the same class as him it didn't feel like we were playing cooperatively at all - he's doing MSQ stuff that leads into cutscenes while I'm running circles around him trying to do sidequests. I gave up at like level 10-15

I'm pretty much just expecting to do some dungeons which DRK and GNB should be able to just scale down to? And then run circles around them in the open world with my high level classes to show off my outfits
I meant specifically because I think trying to learn how to tank in mid-level dungeons is a terrible idea (having had the miserable experience of healing gunbreakers who were clearly on their first or second dungeon), but any of them should be simple if youre starting with Sastasha

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CoolCly
12/30/21 11:16:53 PM
#137:


Yeah I think trying to just tank something towards the end of ARR / another expansion will lead to trouble so I want to start off tanking the simplest stuff. I might even try out some guild leves lmao. Does anybody actually do those?

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tcaz2
12/30/21 11:18:46 PM
#138:


CoolCly posted...
Yeah I think trying to just tank something towards the end of ARR / another expansion will lead to trouble so I want to start off tanking the simplest stuff. I might even try out some guild leves lmao. Does anybody actually do those?

Not much. Some people will do it for the little bit of exp the roulette gives but its generally not worth it IMO. As-is they are basically just do once and forget about it, imo.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/31/21 1:40:08 AM
#139:


I am losing it with this Blue Mage Azumagia shit. 5 attempts.

You have to use Loom to escape web. I get it.

No matter where I stand, I am NEVEEEEEEEER able to get enough range on Loom to escape the cast. I am watching videos of people doing it. I'm doing nothing different. I just don't have the same range they do. I'm so confused.

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LordoftheMorons
12/31/21 1:46:14 AM
#140:


Yeah, I remember that being annoying. I think it took me like ten tries. Iirc you have just barely enough range to escape? It's been a while since I did it, though.

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GANON1025
12/31/21 10:11:35 AM
#141:


Took me like 3 tries... I'm kinda a Big Deal Blue Mage Savant... Martyn said so

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UshiromiyaEva
12/31/21 11:38:16 AM
#142:


Feel dumb. You just have to use Loom TWICE. Didn't feel like there was enough time.

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TheRock1525
12/31/21 1:12:05 PM
#143:


So as someone who played the game before and still has the character but owns the game only on PS4, is there anyway I can play this right now on PC with the sales suspended?

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UshiromiyaEva
12/31/21 1:16:46 PM
#144:


Your account can transfer, but you do have to buy the game for PC.

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TheRock1525
12/31/21 1:42:25 PM
#145:


Could I buy a physical copy?

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UshiromiyaEva
12/31/21 2:03:18 PM
#146:


I'm actually still seeing digital copies for sale on gamestop. Did they only turn it off from their own store front?

Though Amazon also looks like a 3rd party mess with no official method of purchase, so maybe Gamestop just said fuck you SE when they told them to stop, lol.

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Not_an_Owl
12/31/21 2:07:46 PM
#147:


I think what happened is that SE just stopped generating and/or distributing new CD keys, so retailers that already had some before sales were stopped still have inventory to sell, but any official digital storefront (including Steam and the SE store) aren't selling anymore.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/31/21 5:14:25 PM
#148:


Uh oh I forgot how to play Black Mage.

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The Mana Sword
12/31/21 5:16:13 PM
#149:


cast fire 4

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Dels
12/31/21 5:17:16 PM
#150:


The Mana Sword posted...
cast fire 4

uhhhhh pretty sure i just showed that you don't actually
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