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BlueCrystalTear
12/15/21 10:23:14 PM
#1:


Are you happy with the winner of Survivor 41?



Thought I'd go ahead and make this. Even if CBB3 isn't actually coming due to the lack of primetime Olympics.

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BlueCrystalTear
12/15/21 10:42:18 PM
#2:


and for those who forgot, the "Woo" thing is in reference to the topic hitting 500 mid-finale in Cagayan, with the same question being asked in the new one.

It so happened to be right after Woo won immunity but before he voted out Chaos Kass, so the results were not very accurate.

What a night that was. I remember it like it was yesterday!

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Mewtwo59
12/15/21 11:06:26 PM
#3:


Yeah, they did the winner dirty in the edit. Probably the worst winner's edit other than Jenna or Natalie White.

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BlueCrystalTear
12/15/21 11:09:35 PM
#4:


Mewtwo59 posted...
Yeah, they did the winner dirty in the edit. Probably the worst winner's edit other than Jenna or Natalie White.

Note how all the worst-edited Survivor winners are all women. Chris Underwood doesn't count because he didn't win Survivor, he won something called Edge of Extinction.

Jenna Morasca, Natalie White, Queen Sandra in HvV, Sophie, and now Erika. MeeshFitz is a surprising exception.

If this isn't proof of production's innate misogyny, I don't know what is. The problem this time was Luvu winning every challenge on a season with too much twist bloat - they really should reduce the twists so they have more time to focus on tribes that don't go to Tribal.

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The Mana Sword
12/15/21 11:11:22 PM
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amazing race time now lets go

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Mewtwo59
12/15/21 11:15:23 PM
#6:


Also, what was that fake bootlist that said Tiffany won? Was it accurate except for that, or did it fall off from that point?

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MartinFF7
12/15/21 11:21:16 PM
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I think this result just affirms how much of a queen Sydney is, with Erika gunning for her first. If only Luvu lost before the merge, or if she wasn't taken out by that b.s. hourglass...!

I also think Sydney's #2 on my "Hope for 'second chance' return but doubt it'd ever happen" list next to Victoria (EoE)
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ScepterOfLove
12/15/21 11:58:43 PM
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Mewtwo59 posted...
Also, what was that fake bootlist that said Tiffany won? Was it accurate except for that, or did it fall off from that point?

AFAIK it was 100% correct except it mixed up Tiffany and Erika's names, lol. It called some specific things like Liana leaving in 7th, Deshawn betraying Shan, Xander getting 0 votes, and the Knowledge is Power advantage being misplayed
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bwburke94
12/16/21 4:51:48 AM
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Mewtwo59 posted...
Yeah, they did the winner dirty in the edit. Probably the worst winner's edit other than Jenna or Natalie White.

Only three (and a half) of the last ten seasons had both Unspoiled Edgic and Reddit Edgic correct entering the finale.

32: Reddit Edgic had Aubry.
33: Both had David.
34: Both had Sarah.
35: Unspoiled Edgic had Devon, and Reddit Edgic had Chrissy.
36: Both had Domenick.
37: Unspoiled Edgic had Kara.
38: Both had Rick, but we can't fault them for missing a winner who wasn't even in the game.
39: Both had Tommy.
40: Unspoiled Edgic was tied between Tony and Michele.
41: Both had Erika.

You may have noticed that they're 3-for-6 even when they agree. Edgic is harder nowadays.

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Inviso
12/16/21 9:50:51 AM
#10:


With the season over, here is what I think my season ranking would be overall:

The cream of the crop:
1. Kaoh Rong
2. Vanuatu
3. Pearl Islands
4. San Juan Del Sur
5. China
6. Philippines

Very good seasons with a few minor flaws:
7. Marquesas
8. Borneo
9. Heroes vs. Villains
10. Nicaragua
11. Guatemala
12. Gabon

Largely solid seasons, but with some major flaws that prevent them from being better:
13. David vs. Goliath
14. Cagayan
15. Exile Island
16. Fiji
17. Amazon
18. Dawn of a New Era
19. Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers
20. Micronesia
21. Palau

Has some distinctly negative aspects, but has enough fun and enjoyable content to not hate outright:
22. Game Changers
23. Winners at War
24. Blood vs. Water
25. Edge of Extinction
26. Samoa
27. South Pacific

Mostly bland and forgettable:
28. Tocantins
29. Africa
30. One World
31. Australia
32. Ghost Island

Extremely, extremely negative and unpleasant, but at least KINDA interesting in that negativity:
33. Thailand
34. Worlds Apart
35. Island of the Idols

Aggressively boring and soulless, and revolving around a twist that honestly makes the season worse through its existence:
36. Millennials vs. Gen X
37. Cook Islands
38. Caramoan
39. Cambodia
40. All-Stars
41. Redemption Island

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GTM
12/16/21 9:46:37 PM
#11:


just watched the finale, here are my scribbles

Instinctively, I clicked the topic and saw posts 499 and 500 before I watched the episode :(

Jeff cringe in final 5 tribal

"erika can beat you"
"I dont think so"

oh hey this firemaking is fantastic, still dont want it, dont wanna be results oriented

"can be divided into 3 phases"
me: "outwit, outplay, outlast?"
"premerge, postmerge, final 8"

Im liking this final tribal so far, people are asking specific questions of specific events and topics, and it's all about the final 3.

xander forgot to say that he didnt want erika to get another flashy thing for the jury. - oh there it is.

based on facial expression, doesnt look like deshawn has a chance, but I really hope all three get at least a vote

wow, xander didnt get a vote.

wooo got a preseason pick right finally! go go erika

a lot of xander at the aftershow


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12/16/21 9:53:21 PM
#12:


what's the difference between unspoiled edgic and reddit edgic?

and who decides what is correct edgic?

and who decides who are the ones that get to decide?

serious questions

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UnderUrMattress
12/16/21 11:12:54 PM
#13:


Really happy with this winner, but Xander should've gotten at least one vote, even if he very unfortunately bombed that FTC.

Also I thought that the FMC was gonna be Becky vs. Sundra 2.0 but it turned into the most intense one.

The cast was really great in this season. The abundance of twists was a bit too much, but it really did make the game interesting. I feel like a good portion of them are one trick ponies.

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UnderUrMattress
12/16/21 11:28:33 PM
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UnderUrMattress 3 weeks ago
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I'm probably the only one rooting for Erika at this point.

But I would love to see her win and truthfully think she could if she plays her cards right.

hehe

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12/17/21 1:54:51 AM
#15:


you werent the only one

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UnderUrMattress
12/17/21 1:55:25 AM
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GTM posted...
you werent the only one
yeah i know

go us!

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12/17/21 2:00:23 AM
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^5

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Naye745
12/17/21 3:12:52 AM
#18:


i know ppl are complaining about the "under-edit" but i think:
  1. erika's story was clearly about her coming on strong as the game progressed and that was properly sold to us
  2. by the end it was very clear she was knowledgable of what she was doing and was a clear favorite to win once ricard was booted (and that's how it was from the cast, as well)
  3. i'm actually pleased that the "winner's edit" wasn't just a shoo-in from the start. variation in editing styles and stories is a good thing for the predictability of the show imo
i really think more of the problem is that "why xander wasn't ever going to win" was just not at all clear to viewers who saw a ton of him dodging votes and making moves

but anyway the season was good, i am just terrified of production learning all the most wrong things from what made it actually great.
42 is not likely to be both as lucky and amazingly-casted as 41 to get away with the same dumb bullshit and i am nervously awaiting how it's going to go.

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Inviso
12/18/21 2:04:55 PM
#19:


https://twitter.com/Ryan__Kaiser/status/1472206700421787651

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BlueCrystalTear
12/18/21 2:32:24 PM
#20:


Inviso posted...
https://twitter.com/Ryan__Kaiser/status/1472206700421787651

LOTS of fun! Where the hell was this woman in the edit?

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Underleveled
12/20/21 11:55:57 AM
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Inviso posted...
Largely solid seasons, but with some major flaws that prevent them from being better:
13. David vs. Goliath
14. Cagayan
15. Exile Island
16. Fiji
17. Amazon
18. Dawn of a New Era
19. Heroes vs. Healers vs. Hustlers
20. Micronesia
21. Palau
Yeah, when all is said and done, I'm actually sticking Survivor 41 at 17th on my list for right now, in a similarly-titled tier ("Mostly-Enjoyable Seasons With Moderate Flaws") which also includes HvHvH, SJDS, Tocantins, WaW, Africa, BvW, and Palau. I'm not posting my full list right now because I'm having trouble deciding on how to rank my bottom tier. Can't totally decide which ones are worse than the others.

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GTM
12/25/21 2:06:55 PM
#22:


wishing everyone a happy birthday to our lord and saviour jeff probst

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Underleveled
12/26/21 11:38:21 PM
#23:


I recently found out that a good friend of mine is friends with the winner of BB17. I'm not sure how close they are, especially considering he said he didn't even know he was on the show until like halfway through that season, but it's still kinda cool.

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01/03/22 2:45:51 AM
#24:


new years bumb

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Underleveled
01/03/22 2:52:58 AM
#25:


TAR33 premieres this week.

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UnderUrMattress
01/03/22 10:34:25 AM
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Underleveled posted...
I recently found out that a good friend of mine is friends with the winner of BB17. I'm not sure how close they are, especially considering he said he didn't even know he was on the show until like halfway through that season, but it's still kinda cool.
Neither did anyone else lol

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01/03/22 3:59:55 PM
#27:


badumtsh

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Underleveled
01/05/22 8:50:45 PM
#28:


I hope Dusty/Ryan and Raquel/Cayla become this cute little friendly rivalry

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Inviso
01/05/22 9:00:53 PM
#29:


Good elimination.

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Underleveled
01/05/22 9:02:46 PM
#30:


I mean they were barely shown

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Inviso
01/05/22 9:04:48 PM
#31:


Underleveled posted...
I mean they were barely shown

Exactly.

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Underleveled
01/05/22 9:17:14 PM
#32:


Omg this is like those girls that were 10 feet away from Phil and didn't see him

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Inviso
01/05/22 9:17:14 PM
#33:


That mail roadblock might just have produced one of the funniest moments on the show in years.

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Underleveled
01/05/22 10:00:07 PM
#34:


I believe this is the first time ever there has been a NEL on Leg 2.

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Inviso
01/05/22 10:13:15 PM
#35:


Underleveled posted...
I believe this is the first time ever there has been a NEL on Leg 2.

That's correct. And thank goodness for it, because that would've sucked to have a super-linear leg with no real chance for LaLiLuLeLo to catch up after checking in leg one an hour behind.

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Underleveled
01/05/22 10:26:47 PM
#36:


Rankings and winner picks:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/8/9/AAaSYmAACxwZ.png

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Underleveled
01/05/22 10:32:16 PM
#37:


I'd also like to point out that this season was cast and began filming prior to the diversity mandate and there are only two teams where both members are white. Combined with the already diverse casts of TAR32 and S39, BB was clearly the biggest issue of the three prior to the mandate.

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Mewtwo59
01/06/22 3:26:38 AM
#38:


Honestly, I wouldn't have minded them just putting Lulu & Lala out of their misery. It looks like they're staying at the train station overnight, so that's a chance to catch up at least, but they've looked so hopeless so far that I'm not confident in their ability to not fall behind again.

Also, I'm convinced Caro & Ray are one of the teams that don't come back after the shutdown. I can't see that relationship lasting a year and a half.

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Mewtwo59
01/06/22 3:28:06 AM
#39:


Underleveled posted...
I'd also like to point out that this season was cast and began filming prior to the diversity mandate and there are only two teams where both members are white. Combined with the already diverse casts of TAR32 and S39, BB was clearly the biggest issue of the three prior to the mandate.

Yeah, Winners at War was limited by its premise, and even then they invited back every minority winner except Vecepia, although some of them declined.

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Alanna82
01/06/22 10:36:29 AM
#40:


Kim and Penn actually have a youtube channel that I watch.

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Underleveled
01/06/22 12:29:38 PM
#41:


Alanna82 posted...
Kim and Penn actually have a youtube channel that I watch.
Actually I noticed that almost every team had at least one relatively notable member (viral/internet famous, former RTV contestant, pro athlete, center of a national news story, local celebrity/hero, or immediate connection to one of the above). I think there were only two teams that didn't have any of the above (the flight attendants and the father/daughter).

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Mewtwo59
01/06/22 1:09:23 PM
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I don't think Connie & Sam had any of those either.

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Underleveled
01/06/22 2:49:48 PM
#43:


They raised who I assume is a notable college football player.

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Mewtwo59
01/06/22 3:07:11 PM
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I don't see a QB from Charlotte on Army's roster, so I think he just ended up going to West Point and didn't play football.

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BlueCrystalTear
01/07/22 1:30:54 PM
#45:


Okay, finally got to watch TAR. Loved the new way they handled the fake Pit Stop - have they ever done it like that before? Usually the first team gets the clue and then "TO BE CONTINUED..." happens.

Early favorites are Raquel & Cayla. Not sure who else yet.

Mewtwo59 posted...
I don't see a QB from Charlotte on Army's roster, so I think he just ended up going to West Point and didn't play football.

I thought he was a WR from the clip they showed.

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Inviso
01/07/22 1:31:23 PM
#46:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
Okay, finally got to watch TAR. Loved the new way they handled the fake Pit Stop - have they ever done it like that before? Usually the first team gets the clue and then "TO BE CONTINUED..." happens.

Early favorites are Raquel & Cayla. Not sure who else yet.

I thought he was a WR from the clip they showed.

They've done it like that before, in at least one more recent season.

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BlueCrystalTear
01/07/22 1:43:06 PM
#47:


Inviso posted...
They've done it like that before, in at least one more recent season.

Ah, okay. I haven't watched them all as of late. I come and go with TAR tbqh. It just doesn't entertain me like it once did.

Thanks.

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Underleveled
01/07/22 2:42:17 PM
#48:


I think they did it in 29.

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Mewtwo59
01/07/22 5:15:28 PM
#49:


BlueCrystalTear posted...
I thought he was a WR from the clip they showed.

Their bio says that he's a quarterback. But either way, a QB or WR at Army isn't really going to be relevant, given how Army rarely ever throws the ball (they threw the ball 110 times this year, and that's probably above average for Army)

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Inviso
01/12/22 9:15:49 PM
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Loving the adventures of stick shift and self-driving. Always good for fun television.

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