Board 8 > All-Purpose Wrestling Topic Part 508: The Era of Honor Ends

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Steiner
12/12/21 4:07:08 AM
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by the time this topic gets to 500 we'll probably be on the second ROH revival project

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TheRock1525
12/12/21 5:13:23 AM
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By the time this hits 500, Rex Steiner will be #AllElite.

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Jakyl25
12/12/21 10:44:46 AM
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Hook for HoF

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Tom Bombadil
12/12/21 12:56:00 PM
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TheRock1525 posted...
By the time this hits 500, Rex Steiner will be #AllElite.

I feel like "universal champ before he's ready because we need more main eventers" seems a more likely route

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ScareChan
12/12/21 12:59:42 PM
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I think Hook should be the one to beat Punk

not even memeing, it'd be the perfect guy to give the rub to, especially the way the MJF story has been coloring in Punk as the guy who just can't go like he used to. Having this rookie who's got a built in pedigree and that's going to be able to wear him down with conditioning if it goes too long on Punk's end writes itself

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Steiner
12/12/21 1:03:49 PM
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TheRock1525 posted...
By the time this hits 500, Rex Steiner will be #AllElite.

by the time this hits 500, Steiner will be #AllElite

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Steiner
12/19/21 5:54:58 PM
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safety bump

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ZeroSignal620
12/19/21 10:45:43 PM
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Steiner posted...
by the time this hits 500, Steiner will be #AllElite

By the time this hits 500, Scott Steiner will still be reduced to random low rate indie shows jobbing to Jerry Lawler and maybe a 15th run with Impact.

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ZeroSignal620
12/24/21 10:04:25 PM
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With SD officially aired, this card necessarily doesn't contain spoilers anymore!

Day 1 Card
Reigns vs Lesnar for Universal title
Big E vs Owens vs Rollins vs Lashley for WWE title
Edge vs Miz
Becky vs Liv for Raw Women's title
Nakamura vs Zayn for Intercontinental title
New Day vs Usos for SD Tag Titles
McIntyre vs Moss

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Axl_Rose_85
12/27/21 7:02:00 AM
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At this point either Cody is trolling the fans really hard (for no discernable reason) or just wants to become the next John Cena.
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paulg235
12/27/21 3:44:05 PM
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So apparently WWE is ceasing their weekly testing despite a bunch of their employees testing positive. Almost as if there's a PPV this weekend and they don't want their roster to miss it...

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FFDragon
12/27/21 3:47:48 PM
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Sounds Vincey

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ZeroSignal620
12/28/21 12:09:19 PM
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RK-Bro vs Street Profits added to Day 1

With two years done in the 20s, here's my rankings for all WWE and Universal Champs in the 2020s...

WWE Championship
1) Lashley - Tough choice for #1, but Lashley was an intimidating heel for a champ. His 6 month run included sweeping Drew McIntyre 3-0, sending Strowman out of the WWE, and wins over Goldberg, Miz, Kofi, and Orton.
2) McIntyre - The only 2 time champ on the list, McIntyre has the distinct honor of drawing 0 fans during both reigns and not winning a single main event on ppv during either run. Outside playing hot potato with Orton, McIntyre had lukewarm defenses against Rollins, Ziggler, Lashley while still with Lana, and Goldberg. Eventually became a prop for a joke title run by Miz
3) Big E - E's made the most out of his recent run with decisive wins over Lashley and Drew, and that's enough for third.
4) Lesnar - Started the decade as champ, claims to fame include eliminating half a Rumble and burying Ricochet in Saudi Arabia.
5) Orton - Stat pad reign just to give it back to Drew not even a month later
6) Miz - Cashed in on Drew, lost it 8 days later to Lashley, capping off the most meaningless MITB run of all time.

Universal on next post

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ZeroSignal620
12/28/21 12:17:36 PM
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Universal
1) Roman Reigns - Upon his return in 2020, Reigns got the run some feared he would get. Over the span of 16 months, Roman has wins over Wyatt, Strowman, Jey Uso, McIntyre, Owens, Bryan, Edge, Cesaro, Rey Mysterio, Cena, Balor, Lesnar, and Big E and is now looking to set the new record for longest Universal title run. The Head of the Table may have the best Universal reign to date.
2) Braun Strowman - Only given the strap because Roman took time off, Strowman was given a 4 month run during the beginning of the pandemic. His run was mostly bad with a defense against Miz and Morrison, before plunging into a hilariously bad angle with Bray Wyatt. Speaking of which...
3) Bray Wyatt - Entered the decade as champion and only had one successful defense against Bryan in said 2 month stretch before getting buried by Goldberg. Would win the belt a second time but would immediately drop it to Roman a week later.
4) Goldberg - Squashed Wyatt in Saudi Arabia, then bailed after losing clean to Strowman a month later. Yawn.


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Steiner
12/28/21 2:37:29 PM
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kudos to zsig who as far as i can tell may be the last person alive watching wwe for free

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FFDragon
12/28/21 2:41:42 PM
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lmao

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Steiner
12/28/21 2:42:13 PM
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or maybe more likely, congrats to zsig on the job

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Tom Bombadil
12/28/21 3:09:46 PM
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zsig is watching so we don't have to and you're just gonna dunk him like that wow

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Steiner
12/28/21 3:25:29 PM
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it wasn't a dunk! i'm genuinely impressed!

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ZeroSignal620
12/28/21 6:30:00 PM
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Steiner posted...
kudos to zsig who as far as i can tell may be the last person alive watching wwe for free


Steiner posted...
or maybe more likely, congrats to zsig on the job


Tom Bombadil posted...
zsig is watching so we don't have to and you're just gonna dunk him like that wow

Here's the surprising part of it all...

In 2021 I've only watched four WWE events live: Royal Rumble, Elimination Chamber, Wrestlemania (Night 2), and Summerslam. More or less, I read reports on either Bleacher or 411; I acknowledge the product is an absolute train wreck, but much like a train wreck, I check out results for curiosity.

What very little I've watched of AEW I have been far impressed with a thousand times over and would watch it weekly if it were on one of the 4 or 5 stream services we have.

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FFDragon
12/29/21 3:49:14 PM
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lmao they fired Toni storm

women's revolution

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paulg235
12/29/21 3:58:22 PM
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She mentioned something about NXT2.0 in an interview earlier this week. I bet that's what caused it.

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ZeroSignal620
12/29/21 4:12:51 PM
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I'm hearing she requested her release. SmackDown is basically Charlotte and Sasha at this point.

Also unaware the Cruiserweight title is gone after New Year's Evil

RIP NXT Cruiserweight title (9/14/16 - 1/4/2022) let's remember those who wore this belt over a span of 5 years...

TJ Perkins
The Brian Kendrick
Rich Swann
Neville
Akira Tozawa
Enzo Amore
Kalisto
Cedric Alexander
Buddy Murphy
Tony Nese
Drew Gulak
Lio Rush
Angel Garza
Jordan Devlin
Santos Escobar
Kushida
Roderick Strong

If Carmelo Hayes wins on Tuesday, he'll be the 18th and final champion

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LiquidOshawott
12/29/21 4:19:33 PM
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The Brian Kendrick
Akira Tozawa
Cedric Alexander
Drew Gulak
Angel Garza
Jordan Devlin
Santos Escobar
Kushida
Roderick Strong

I guess the retention rate is a little better than the NA champion

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ZeroSignal620
12/30/21 1:19:44 PM
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I wouldn't put it past Strong to be All Elite within a year, and I'll be surprised if Garza isn't released in the next 6 months

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Tom Bombadil
12/30/21 2:04:01 PM
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I remember being pretty excited they brought it back :\

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ZeroSignal620
12/30/21 3:05:10 PM
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Tom Bombadil posted...
I remember being pretty excited they brought it back :\

Quite a few of us were; for the first couple years, things were good for the belt. Cruiserweight matches were closing Raw during Neville and Enzo's title runs.

Not to say it was bad during its time on NXT, but it definitely got less attention once it got renamed as such.

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ZeroSignal620
12/30/21 3:17:33 PM
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With 2021 coming to an end, here's the new first-time champs for each level of belt...

World (contrary to what WWE will tell you, NXT is not a World title)
Lashley
Big E

IC
Apollo Crews

US
Riddle
Priest

Tag
AJ Styles
Omos
Riddle

Women's (Singles + Tag)
Belair
Ripley
Nikki
Tamina
Vega

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Jakyl25
12/30/21 3:24:58 PM
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Dom for Tag

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ZeroSignal620
12/30/21 8:30:46 PM
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Dammit I knew I forgot someone

The first time tag champ streak is the second shortest (behind World, which sits only at 3 years now), with first time champs every year since 2010

2010 - DH Smith, Kidd, McIntyre, Otunga, Slater, Gabriel, Santino, Kozlov
2011 - Axel, Bourne
2012 - Epico, R Truth, Bryan
2013 - Reigns, Rollins
2014 - Usos, Sandow
2015 - Cesaro, Big E, Woods, Titus, Young
2016 - Rhyno, Wyatt, Harper, Jordan, Gable, Sheamus
2017 - Anderson, Gallows, Ambrose
2018 - Strowman, Nicholas, Bo Dallas, Akam, Rezar, Roode, Rowan
2019 - Shane McMahon, The Revival, Viking Raiders
2020 - Murphy, Street Profits, Cedric, Nakamura
2021 - Styles, Omos, Riddle, Dominic

The only wrestlers to win tag titles in 2009 were the Colons, Edge, Jericho, Big Show, HHH, and HBK, all previously having won them prior to said year

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ZeroSignal620
01/01/22 2:09:11 PM
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To further attempt convincing people to care, WWE adds Cesaro/Ricochet vs Sheamus/Ridge to the kickoff show tonight

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paulg235
01/01/22 7:07:19 PM
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Roman out of Day 1 due to testing positive for COVID (may he no sell the disease, no not in the "go to work/continue life as usual anyway" route, the "avoids symptoms" route). Brock Lesnar will now instead accept the WWE Championship as tribute.

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ZeroSignal620
01/01/22 7:38:58 PM
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Now I'm expecting the Usos to interfere in the 5-way to screw Lesnar over, but who knows at this point.

On a different note, Roman Reigns is the first superstar to be The Man for an entire calendar year from January to December

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Fastbreak
01/01/22 9:32:18 PM
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ZeroSignal620 posted...
Now I'm expecting the Usos to interfere in the 5-way to screw Lesnar over, but who knows at this point.

On a different note, Roman Reigns is the first superstar to be The Man for an entire calendar year from January to December

I'm thinking something with Sami maybe? Especially since Kevin is in the match

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FFDragon
01/01/22 9:42:05 PM
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@X_Dante_X I've just been made aware that WWE is running with a King Woods and Sir Kofi gimmick and I feel like we should sue for gimmick infringement

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ninkendo
01/01/22 10:49:18 PM
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Brock Lesnar bayyybeeeeee

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X_Dante_X
01/01/22 11:10:38 PM
#38:


wtf, those posers

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ZeroSignal620
01/01/22 11:20:20 PM
#39:


So... if you include his NJPW reign, Lesnar joins an elite crew

10+ time pro wrestling heavyweight champions
Flair
Cena
HHH
Orton
Hogan
Angle
Sting
Edge
Rock
Jarrett
Gagne
Lesnar

Don't think I'm missing anyone. If we take TNA/Impact out, Angle is gone

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illuminatusbubu
01/02/22 4:10:24 AM
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What about Jarrett?
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scarletspeed7
01/02/22 11:24:52 AM
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Literally on the list.

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Tom Bombadil
01/02/22 12:16:13 PM
#42:


What about Raven?

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FFDragon
01/02/22 12:19:19 PM
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Who betta than Kanyon?

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illuminatusbubu
01/02/22 12:48:12 PM
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I mean if you take TNA out, wouldn't that get rid of Jarrett too?
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LiquidOshawott
01/02/22 1:12:26 PM
#45:


illuminatusbubu posted...
I mean if you take TNA out, wouldn't that get rid of Jarrett too?

Technically not, since when he was champ all those times they had the NWA belt


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TheRock1525
01/02/22 1:20:52 PM
#46:


DREW MAC was given a kayfabe neck injury to cover for testing on actual neck problems.

Hopefully it's nothing too serious.

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ZeroSignal620
01/02/22 1:27:51 PM
#47:


illuminatusbubu posted...
I mean if you take TNA out, wouldn't that get rid of Jarrett too?

Nope. All 6 of his TNA reigns were as NWA Champion

Also Sting would be gone too. Take out the TNA belts and he's only an 8 time world champ

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illuminatusbubu
01/02/22 2:16:29 PM
#48:


Ah, that makes sense. I just assume we remove all titles won in TNA since, you know, it's TNA.
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ZeroSignal620
01/02/22 3:22:20 PM
#49:


Impact has been mostly decent since breaking away from Dixie Carter, but still has the random 'lol TNA' moments

Ultimately, it is a very distant third when stacked against WWE and AEW

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TheRock1525
01/02/22 4:30:16 PM
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I feel like recent LOLWWE events have eclipsed LOLTNA ones.

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ZeroSignal620
01/02/22 8:48:39 PM
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TheRock1525 posted...
I feel like recent LOLWWE events have eclipsed LOLTNA ones.

Oh they absolutely have. At least when Impact messes up, hardly anyone sees it anyway.

I don't keep up with it, but probably the silliest thing Impact's done in the past year or two was have Moose bring back the TNA Heavyweight title, only to eventually see it get merged with the Impact belt anyway

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