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Veggeta_MAX
12/02/21 8:04:22 PM
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What a VERY badly aged game. Combat was horrible. Letting you still attack the group you target after they all dead is dumb as shit because you'll literally hit thin air. Game is a bit grind heavy similar to early Dragon Quest games. Everything felt like a fetch quest. Early game is pretty damn hard but once you get a bit leveled and get your your 3rd party member it gets easier. Go play Lufia 2 instead.

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Robot2600
12/02/21 8:06:33 PM
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I disagree 100%.

Lufia 1 > Lufia 2

the rest of the world is wrong.

Lufia 1 has better music and true dungeon grinding, as well as an absolutely massive world that honestly dwarfs most JRPGs in terms of towns and upgrades.

Guess it just wasn't for you.

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AlCalavicci
12/02/21 8:08:24 PM
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Robot2600 posted...
I disagree 100%.

Lufia 1 > Lufia 2

the rest of the world is wrong.

Lufia 1 has better music and true dungeon grinding, as well as an absolutely massive world that honestly dwarfs most JRPGs in terms of towns and upgrades.

Guess it just wasn't for you.

Yikes at this opinion

Lufia 2 is objectively better in every way

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Veggeta_MAX
12/02/21 8:09:26 PM
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Robot2600 posted...
I disagree 100%.

Lufia 1 > Lufia 2

the rest of the world is wrong.

Lufia 1 has better music and true dungeon grinding, as well as an absolutely massive world that honestly dwarfs most JRPGs in terms of towns and upgrades.

Guess it just wasn't for you.
This is a Lufia 1 town
https://imgur.com/eEz0aXB

This is a Lufia 2 town
https://imgur.com/h1X4Y5z

LMAO

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RenescoStCewl
12/02/21 8:10:12 PM
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Robot2600 posted...
I disagree 100%.

Lufia 1 > Lufia 2

the rest of the world is wrong.

Lufia 1 has better music and true dungeon grinding, as well as an absolutely massive world that honestly dwarfs most JRPGs in terms of towns and upgrades.

Guess it just wasn't for you.
Whoa, I didn't know anyone preferred the first game. I always get burned out on the first and quit.

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Veggeta_MAX
12/02/21 8:12:05 PM
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RenescoStCewl posted...
I always get burned out on the first and quit.
I couldn't have finished it without the turbo button.

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Robot2600
12/02/21 8:16:54 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9ynBWM29M8

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RenescoStCewl
12/02/21 8:17:02 PM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
I couldn't have finished it without the turbo button.
I tried playing it again a few months ago and even with turbo I didn't finish. I wasn't having fun and figured what's the point

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Alucard188
12/02/21 8:18:31 PM
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Lufia 2 is the superior game, but I adore the fuck out of Lufia 1. I still get the overworld theme stuck in my head at times.

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Robot2600
12/02/21 8:19:26 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6GfbUuly0I

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Alucard188
12/02/21 8:22:27 PM
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Robot2600 posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6GfbUuly0I

This is a far better version than Lufia 2.

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Robot2600
12/02/21 8:23:36 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn45hYpl4_M

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yusiko
12/02/21 8:23:58 PM
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I know that Lufia 2 is objectively better
But I still like lufia 1 more

Lufia 3 is good as well
Avoid lufia 4

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yusiko
12/03/21 12:44:03 AM
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the DS remake of 2 isnt great but i do approve of it making tia and dekar permanent party members

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Strider102
12/03/21 1:13:08 AM
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Lufia 1 doesn't have this, making it inferior to Lufia 2.

https://youtu.be/6wWHZE14hP8

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yusiko
12/03/21 1:40:25 AM
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lufia 1 actually has lufia has a playable character
lufia 3 also has lufia has a playable character but she is going by a different name since she remembers she is one of the sinistrils this time

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ModLogic
12/03/21 1:42:07 AM
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ArchHero
12/03/21 2:38:03 AM
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Ah Lufia 1, the best rpg evar. Stay frosty, Deckard!

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yusiko
12/03/21 2:45:40 AM
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lufia 1 has a better final boss for sure

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Strider102
12/03/21 3:18:20 AM
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yusiko posted...
lufia 1 has a better final boss for sure

Yeah but Guy dies when he says he's going to join and help the MC in Lufia 1.

That cannot be forgiven.

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yusiko
12/03/21 9:39:26 AM
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I liked aguro more

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AlCalavicci
12/03/21 9:49:19 AM
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yusiko posted...
I liked aguro more

I don't remember much characterization with Aguro. I mean he had Green hair so I guess that's cool? Other than that, he's a warrior. Does he have a character beyond that?

Guy is boss

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Veggeta_MAX
12/03/21 10:39:33 AM
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The combat alone in Lufia 1 was horrible.

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ScarfForLife
12/03/21 10:44:33 AM
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AlCalavicci posted...
I don't remember much characterization with Aguro. I mean he had Green hair so I guess that's cool? Other than that, he's a warrior. Does he have a character beyond that?

Guy is boss

You were a Dekar man.

Lufia 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lufia 1

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AlCalavicci
12/03/21 10:45:19 AM
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ScarfForLife posted...
You were a Dekar man.

Lufia 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lufia 1

Im still a Dekar man tbh

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ScarfForLife
12/03/21 10:46:17 AM
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AlCalavicci posted...
Im still a Dekar man tbh

I don't blame you. Dekar was a boss!

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yusiko
12/03/21 10:47:36 AM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
The combat alone in Lufia 1 was horrible.


no it wasnt


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yusiko
12/03/21 10:47:55 AM
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dekar and tia were great

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Tyranthraxus
12/03/21 10:48:47 AM
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Lufia 2 is way better but Lufia 1 is still a good game.

Making you go into the final boss with a gimped 4th character that doesn't have proper endgame equipment was kind of interesting actually.

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Veggeta_MAX
12/03/21 10:53:24 AM
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yusiko posted...
no it wasnt
It was bad. I really dunno how to properly explained this but if you attack a monster that has already been defeated then you will still attack the monster as if he's still there and miss. In most JRPGS, the attack would have redirected to the next monster.

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ScarfForLife
12/03/21 10:55:26 AM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
It was bad. I really dunno how to properly explained this but if you attack a monster that has already been defeated then you will still attack the monster as if he's still there and miss. In most JRPGS, the attack would have redirected to the next monster.

That was kinda common really early on. IIRC the first Final Fantasy was the same way. It sucks and is a pain in the ass, but it's not necessarily uncommon. You just have to make sure you strategize a little better.

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Veggeta_MAX
12/03/21 10:56:09 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Lufia 2 is way better but Lufia 1 is still a good game.

Making you go into the final boss with a gimped 4th character that doesn't have proper endgame equipment was kind of interesting actually.
You are gods by the end of Lufia 1. I had like over 50 Miracles, tons of HP and MP heal items, Valor was an AoE max heal spell that MC and Jerin had, buffs and debuffs and they barely did any damage to you even with the store bought end game equipment.

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yusiko
12/03/21 10:56:31 AM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
It was bad. I really dunno how to properly explained this but if you attack a monster that has already been defeated then you will still attack the monster as if he's still there and miss. In most JRPGS, the attack would have redirected to the next monster.


not always
monsters are split into groups so if you get 3 of one kind of monster and 2 of another kind and you have everyone attack one group then when one monster of that group dies IIRC they start attacking a different monster in the same group
the attack misses dont happen until the enemy group is dead but the attack wont switch over to the 2 monsters in the other group

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Veggeta_MAX
12/03/21 10:56:41 AM
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ScarfForLife posted...
That was kinda common really early on. IIRC the first Final Fantasy was the same way. It sucks and is a pain in the ass, but it's not necessarily uncommon. You just have to make sure you strategize a little better.
I don't recall the first FF doing this.

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KneeOnBest
12/03/21 10:57:16 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Lufia 2 is way better but Lufia 1 is still a good game.

Making you go into the final boss with a gimped 4th character that doesn't have proper endgame equipment was kind of interesting actually.
Context?

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CyricZ
12/03/21 10:57:45 AM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
I don't recall the first FF doing this.
Totally did.

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ScarfForLife
12/03/21 10:58:04 AM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
I don't recall the first FF doing this.

I'm almost positive that was the case. Unless you played a rom version that changed it. The original version, if you attacked something that was dead it would just slash at air and that character's turn was over.

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Veggeta_MAX
12/03/21 10:58:35 AM
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Yeah I never played any RPGs for the NES.

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ScarfForLife
12/03/21 10:59:44 AM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
Yeah I never played any RPGs for the NES.

You just said you didn't recall that happening in the first FF which was an NES game.

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Veggeta_MAX
12/03/21 10:59:49 AM
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KneeOnBest posted...
Context?
You fight Gades, Amon and Daos with only MC, Green hair guy and Jerin. And then they fused together and then Lufia finally joins in the fight against them.

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Tyranthraxus
12/03/21 11:00:01 AM
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KneeOnBest posted...
Context?

Major spoilers:

you lose one of the main characters 3/4th of the way through the game when she realizes she's actually supposed to be the bad guy. You get her back just before fighting the final boss with her level & equipment unchanged and you basically have to do the entire end of the game with just 3 characters.

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Veggeta_MAX
12/03/21 11:00:07 AM
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ScarfForLife posted...
You just said you didn't recall that happening in the first FF which was an NES game.
MB, I played the first FF on GBA and I don't recall it doing that on that game.

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yusiko
12/03/21 11:00:19 AM
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KneeOnBest posted...
Context?


before the final dungeon you lose the character lufia making your party go from 4 to 3. and you dont get her back until just before the final boss fight so she misses out on some levels. but so long as you get all her magic before she leaves she can still hold her own in the final fight since she is a really good mage

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yusiko
12/03/21 11:01:12 AM
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ScarfForLife posted...
I'm almost positive that was the case. Unless you played a rom version that changed it. The original version, if you attacked something that was dead it would just slash at air and that character's turn was over.


you are right
that is how FF for the nes worked

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Veggeta_MAX
12/03/21 11:02:47 AM
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Oh yeah the game is completely GGEZ once you get the Wind Flute too. It's an in-game battle item that heals your group for 50-100HP and it is unlimited and can be used as much as you like. Forever heals.

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ScarfForLife
12/03/21 11:02:50 AM
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yusiko posted...
you are right
that is how FF for the nes worked

Do you know if they changed it in the GBA version?

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AlCalavicci
12/03/21 11:03:09 AM
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Veggeta_MAX posted...
MB, I played the first FF on GBA and I don't recall it doing that on that game.

yeah the ports and remakes fixed that

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yusiko
12/03/21 11:04:44 AM
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ScarfForLife posted...
Do you know if they changed it in the GBA version?


the GBA version is the one version of FF1 i havent played but all the other versions changed it so i assume the GBA did as well

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Musourenka
12/03/21 11:05:13 AM
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Didn't NES DQ2 and DQ3 have the same "oops you targeted a dead enemy" issue as FF and Lufia?

Anyways, I think I got halfway through Lufia. I got the fourth party member and maybe a little ways after that?

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Tyranthraxus
12/03/21 11:05:24 AM
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I think the only port of FF1 that didn't change it was the PS1 version.

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