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ninkendo
09/27/21 11:57:20 AM
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Looks like the media got to play the opening hours of the game over the weekend. Sounds like it really captures that same feeling of loneliness and DREAD that Super Metroid manages to evoke. The story is fully voice acted, but doesn't make you cringe like Other M did. The Adam A.I. serves roughly the same function it did in Fusion as a guide to each new area, but the game is non-linear letting you go in multiple directions without much backtracking (at least in these first few hours). It sounds like while there is one location to reach each at a time, there are multiple ways to get there. Will all these positive impression translate to reviews? Stay tuned!

https://youtu.be/u86txKB4UIk

https://www.ign.com/articles/metroid-dread-hands-on-preview

https://www.gamespot.com/videos/metroid-dreads-tension-is-relentless-hands-on-preview/2300-6456316/

https://www.theverge.com/22690483/metroid-dread-nintendo-switch-oled-console-hands-on-preview

https://mynintendonews.com/2021/09/27/preview-metroid-dread-for-nintendo-switch/

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ninkendo
09/27/21 12:19:59 PM
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Hbthebattle
09/27/21 12:22:04 PM
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ninkendo posted...
https://kotaku.com/hands-on-metroid-dreads-first-hour-is-legit-kinda-terr-1847742944
wow i was worried this was about to say "terrible"

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Lopen
09/27/21 12:27:12 PM
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Wow

I'm sold

First time I've been excited about a Metroid game since Metroid Prime ruined the series

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UshiromiyaEva
09/27/21 12:33:52 PM
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This does seam neat and I'm glad the oldschool fans are getting closure, but I'll be waiting for Prime 4 because I could never get into any of these 2D ones.

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GuessMyUserName
09/27/21 12:42:58 PM
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legit kinda terr

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andylt
09/27/21 12:57:08 PM
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legit kinda territorial rotbart

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TheRock1525
09/27/21 1:19:46 PM
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legit kinda terraformed planets

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Leonhart4
09/27/21 1:23:51 PM
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foolm0r0n
09/27/21 3:18:18 PM
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Sure it can recreate the dread of SM but can it recreate the disco?

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firefdr
09/27/21 6:32:07 PM
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legit kinda terry is a bad smash newcomer
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Nanis23
09/27/21 6:43:24 PM
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Hbthebattle posted...
wow i was worried this was about to say "terrible"
lol same

Lopen posted...
First time I've been excited about a Metroid game since Metroid Prime ruined the series
Samus Returns is such a underrated gem

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masterplum
09/27/21 6:45:58 PM
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legit kinda terraforming mars

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Epyo
09/27/21 8:39:02 PM
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why does this game have the most marketing of any nintendo game in history

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UshiromiyaEva
09/27/21 8:41:37 PM
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Because as much as people like to pretend otherwise, Metroid games don't actually do all that well outside of edge cases, at least by Nintendo first party standards.

I actually do not expect this game to be a big seller.

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pjbasis
09/27/21 8:48:05 PM
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UshiromiyaEva
09/27/21 8:53:18 PM
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It is a $60 2D single player platformer.

That's not a knock towards its value or quality as a product to anyone sensible, but a lot of people are going to scoff at that when the market is saturated with 85+ reviewing entries in the Metroidvania franchise that are going for under $20 at full retail, not to mention sales.

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LeonhartFour
09/27/21 8:54:37 PM
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I'm not even a Metroid fan and I think it looks great. It won't sell on par with a Mario or Zelda, but it'll sell really well.

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MoogleKupo141
09/27/21 9:59:31 PM
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Epyo posted...
why does this game have the most marketing of any nintendo game in history

I think they want to make one more attempt at turning Metroid into one of their big franchises.

prime 4 is still coming. they gotta turn all these switch owners into Metroid fans.

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ninkendo
09/27/21 10:00:12 PM
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Team Rocket Elite
09/27/21 10:07:46 PM
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Epyo posted...
why does this game have the most marketing of any nintendo game in history


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foolm0r0n
09/27/21 10:27:32 PM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
but a lot of people are going to scoff at that when the market is saturated with 85+ reviewing entries in the Metroidvania franchise that are going for under $20 at full retail, not to mention sales.
None actually do Metroid though. They're mostly just platformers where you can also backtrack. Axiom Verge is really the only one.

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Mac Arrowny
09/27/21 10:30:33 PM
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pjbasis posted...
Idk this could be the biggest metroid ever

It's worth noting that the last 3 Fire Emblem games all sold better than the best selling Metroid game (Prime 1). Metroid sales are a joke.
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ninkendo
09/27/21 10:31:50 PM
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This will for sure be the best selling Metroid game at least

Maybe more than the whole series combined

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UshiromiyaEva
09/27/21 10:34:46 PM
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I don't think the very specific 1 to 1 comparison means much to the average consumer.

I fully expect the rallying cry by people aghast at the price point is going to be "Hollow Knight", regardless of the actual direct connotation.

You gotta remember that the last time a full 2D Metroid that wasn't a remake came out was FUSION, which a vast majority of gamers today either did not play or, if they did, they got for $8 on the Eshop. Said remake, Samus Returns, sold like butt (which, if I have my dates right, was a post Switch launch 3DS game, so Nintendo should have seen that coming).

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UshiromiyaEva
09/27/21 10:37:08 PM
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ninkendo posted...
This will for sure be the best selling Metroid game at least

Maybe more than the whole series combined

...This game will not sell 20 million units.

It's not going to be a sub 1 million Samus Returns based on the release platform alone, but come on. I do not believe it has any chance of beating our Prime 1 for the #1 spot. That was full on Tales of Symphonia syndrome for Metroid.

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Team Rocket Elite
09/27/21 10:37:37 PM
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Mac Arrowny posted...


It's worth noting that the last 3 Fire Emblem games all sold better than the best selling Metroid game (Prime 1). Metroid sales are a joke.


As in Three Houses, SoV and Fates? I'm surprised Shadows of Valentia beat Prime 1 but maybe Prime sold worse than I thought.
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UshiromiyaEva
09/27/21 10:40:42 PM
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Pretty sure he meant Awakening and not SoV, lol. SoV was basically the same situation as Samus Returns: a remake on a dead system.

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Mac Arrowny
09/27/21 10:41:33 PM
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I meant Awakening. I wasn't including the spinoffs or remakes, which generally sell worse.
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LeonhartFour
09/27/21 10:44:38 PM
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Metroid Dread could outsell Prime simply by virtue of the Switch being much more popular than the Gamecube. This is also an era where Metroidvania as a genre is a bigger deal. I suppose the price point could be a turn off for some people, but it doesn't stop a lot of their franchises.

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UshiromiyaEva
09/27/21 10:47:02 PM
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I did not know Three Houses was actually the best selling game in the franchise. I mean I guess it should be obvious with the Switch's popularity, but the DS was an absolute juggernaut when Awakening came out and word of mouth was insane for it.

... Well, word of mouth at the time at least. Social media's impact on pushing Three Houses cannot be compared to what that was like back in 2012.

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UshiromiyaEva
09/27/21 10:49:23 PM
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Metroid is in this very wierd place where it doesn't actually sell well but the general uniformed populace just ASSUMES it does because name recognition is so strong. For a lot of them, the idea of trying to get the word out about how good a new Metroid game is is like your asking them to try and help spread the word about Mario Odyssey or Breath of Wild. They just assume they won't have to, which is far from the truth.

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LeonhartFour
09/27/21 10:52:57 PM
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Well, they probably confuse Samus's popularity with Metroid's popularity, forgetting that she isn't just popular for Metroid.

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Mac Arrowny
09/27/21 11:03:34 PM
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For FE:

Three Houses: 3.02M
Fates: 3M
Awakening: 2.31M

Metroid Prime: 2M

Fates and 3H sold well partly because Awakening was such a hit. Xenoblade 2 and Pikmin 3 Deluxe are also a bit ahead of Metroid Prime. I do think Dread'll be the best-selling Metroid game just because of the Switch factor - most Nintendo franchises seem to have their best selling game there.
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ninkendo
09/27/21 11:03:45 PM
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UshiromiyaEva
09/27/21 11:05:54 PM
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Mac Arrowny posted...
I do think Dread'll be the best-selling Metroid game just because of the Switch factor - most Nintendo franchises seem to have their best selling game there.


Even if so, assuming it doesn't become Vaporware of course, I don't see a world where Prime 4 doesn't end up usurping it after the fact.

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LeonhartFour
09/27/21 11:07:39 PM
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well if it did, it would partially be doing it on the back of Dread's success

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charmander6000
09/27/21 11:09:15 PM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
I did not know Three Houses was actually the best selling game in the franchise. I mean I guess it should be obvious with the Switch's popularity, but the DS was an absolute juggernaut when Awakening came out and word of mouth was insane for it.

... Well, word of mouth at the time at least. Social media's impact on pushing Three Houses cannot be compared to what that was like back in 2012.

Awakening was going to be the last game for a mostly dead franchise while Three Houses came out at a time where the series was getting pushed hard by Nintendo.

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UshiromiyaEva
09/27/21 11:14:58 PM
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LeonhartFour posted...
well if it did, it would partially be doing it on the back of Dread's success

I'm just really not sure that's necessarily the case. There's obviously no way we'll be able to know for sure if 4 does end up selling more as is, but I really feel like Prime 4 would swell more than Dread even if it were to come out first. I think that's just the genre situation with them both being full price.

Could be TOTALLY off base! We can do nothing but speculate. Even Metroid Prime as a series is it's own mythical ancient beast at this point, an enormous chunk of people asking for Prime 4 have never actually played a Prime game either!

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MoogleKupo141
09/27/21 11:33:23 PM
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obviously theres no real connection between these two series, but just to illustrate the potential difference between GameCube and Switch sales:

Prime is the 6th best selling GCN game with 2.84 million, Luigis Mansion is 5th with 3.33 million.

Luigis Mansion 3 has sold over 9 million copies. Im not saying Dreads going to hit a similar number, but I think hitting 3 million to outsell Prime is potentially doable.

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MoogleKupo141
09/27/21 11:35:41 PM
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also the Links Awakening remake is allegedly at like 5.5 million, so Switch owners seem pretty willing to spend $60 on something that seems like it really shouldnt be $60.

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UshiromiyaEva
09/27/21 11:40:58 PM
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I'm definitely interested in seeing what numbers it does! In terms of competitive numbers though, I would just ask yourself this; do you think a $60 2D Metroid game outsells Three Houses in today's market? Thats basically what it would need to hit to outsell Prime 1, with a 100k buffer. I personally don't believe it would, but that's just my prediction.

I also want to make sure it's clear that I personally do not have any issue with a $60 2D Metroid game.

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UF8
09/28/21 12:26:05 AM
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ninkendo posted...
There still isn't a game in 2021 that isn't a port of an existing game to average a 90% or higher.
actually technically deltarune ch2 has, it's just 1 review at 4.5/5 though lol
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Axl_Rose_85
09/28/21 12:27:15 AM
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Hype went from 4/10 to 7/10 with the last trailer and keeps going up when I read stuff like this.

Dare I dream a 2D game can be a GotY contender around here since A Link Between Worlds?

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Axl_Rose_85
09/28/21 12:36:31 AM
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Honestly though, all signs I have been seeing are pointing towards Dread being the GotY over here unless it underwhelms.

Its only legit competition is Resident Evil Village and arguably Tales of Arise (which as much as I enjoyed the game, I can't see it being that much stronger than Berseria). Unless my dream comes true and SMTV breaks its glass ceiling.
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MoogleKupo141
09/28/21 12:39:59 AM
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I would just ask yourself this; do you think a $60 2D Metroid game outsells Three Houses in today's market?

totally anecdotally, I think my Switch-owning friends are more likely to go for Metroid because Fire Emblem seems sort of intimidatingly long and anime-y. Metroids got a lower mental barrier to entry for them.
I can see it being easier to get people who own the Switch for stuff like Mario and Zelda to check out Metroid than an FE.

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TheRock1525
09/28/21 12:41:40 AM
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3 Houses would have sold better if there was more shipping.

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UF8
09/28/21 12:42:03 AM
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it's almost a shame dread is happening since it kills any hopes of any other metroidvania from this year featuring anywhere in gotys (and there have really been a lot of great ones this year)
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UshiromiyaEva
09/28/21 12:43:27 AM
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I could see length being a factor here, though, now that I think about it. Even outside if the 2D platformer for $60 angle, you also have what is probably going to be a 5-6 hour single player game for $60, which is going to be off putting to an entirely different group with some overlap.

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Lord Ephraim
09/28/21 1:05:34 AM
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Dread will sell well. 2021 has been abysmal for video games. If Tales of Arise can sell a million, then Dread can easily break that plus more. People are hungry for good games, and Switch has been pretty bone dry as of late.

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