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brestugo 09/27/21 9:17:39 AM #1:	https://tinyurl.com/p6nrp2yd (Philadelphia Tribune) Essence, who preferred not to use her full name, was reluctant to talk as she descended the steps of the Gun Range on Percy Street in North Philadelphia. The whap, whap, whap of gunfire reverberated in the hallway as she walked down the long flight of stairs and onto the street. She and her male companion had just exited the Gun Range, where paying customers sharpen their shooting skills. Behind a bulletproof glass, a fusillade of bullets from a wide range of rifles, revolvers and pistols explode out of muzzles and rip into paper targets. "I'm torn," Essence said as she stopped for a quick chat. "I know that guns are killing us. Blacks are shooting each other. But I need a gun to protect myself and my family. I'm forced into a corner." Essence posed a question that a growing number of Blacks in Philadelphia and the nation are asking and answering the same way she did: Theyre buying guns. According to the National Shooting Sports Foundation, gun sales among Black men and women increased by 58% in the first six months of last year. *Like Essence, novice gun owners are frequenting shooting ranges and joining gun clubs and advocacy groups in startling numbers.* Crime is the prime mover of this growing trend, Black gun advocates say, adding that rising homicide rates in Philly and elsewhere are fueled in part by the financial and emotional stress of the coronavirus thats magnified in Black communities. This rising death toll comes at a time when police brutality and violent white supremacists are constant concerns, said Daniel Webster, professor of American Health in Violence Prevention at the Bloomberg School of Public Health. *"We've seen such an increase in white nationalist violence," added Webster, who is also director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Violence Prevention and Policy.* *"Some combination of the lack of faith in police protecting you, and hate groups, have motivated a lot of Black people to arm up," Webster said.* According to the Mapping Philadelphias Gun Violence Crisis website, as of Friday, there have been 1,310 nonfatal and 325 fatal shooting victims in the city, and the homicide rate jumped 17% over last year. In response, Black gun ownership, especially among Black females like Essence, is surging. Byron Franklin, an aspiring gun store owner in Philadelphia, said that if he had known gun sales would spike the way they have, he would already own a gun shop. But he said he was advised few Blacks would have money to invest in weapons during a pandemic. "Instead, gun sales quadrupled!" he chuckled. Black gun associations have grown in Philadelphia and around the nation in recent months to support these new Black gun owners. The Robert Brown Elliott Gun Club is among a slew of them with catchy names like Train 2 Fight, Black Guns Matter, Defensive Unicorns, and the Not Fucking Around Coalition (NFAC). Franklin founded Train 2 Fight. His fiance, Dannielle Dupree, established Defensive Unicorns, primarily to support domestic violence survivors. The couple agree that new gun owners need training and education to avoid accidents as well as to avoid abusing their weapons. That way, gun ownership, gun clubs and gun education could be the cure for gun violence, not the cause. The NFAC, which bills itself as a 1,500-member Black militia group, has made frequent appearances at police brutality protests and demonstrations for Black gun rights. A combination of old separatist Black Muslims and the former Black Panther Party for Self-Defense, the group came close to clashing with a white right-wing militia group, the Three Percenters, at a recent demonstration in Louisville, Kentucky, according to The Courier Journal. The group was profiled in the April edition of The Atlantic, as testament to its growing notoriety. So widespread is the current interest in gun ownership that Blacks have formed their own answer to the National Rifle Association. This umbrella group is called the National African American Gun Association (NAAGA), founded by Georgia resident Philip Smith. *The group helps Blacks who cant relate to the NRA, which Smith said has failed to reach out to them.* *The group aims to provide an extra level of comfort for Blacks based on common experiences, much the same as Black fraternal and professional organizations.* The association which claims to have 45,000 members nationwide (over 60% of them women) in 75 chapters aims to help educate Blacks with guns and help them navigate the shoals of gun laws across America. Moreover, NAAGA helps with Black gun owners' dilemma of rising Black homicides on one side, rising white militias on the other, and how to stay safe from both extremes. The value of these groups is learning with people who know your struggle and understand whats happening and has been happening with this country, said Anubis Heru, the owner of the 1770 Armory and Gun Club Denver, touted as Colorados first Black-owned firearm store and simulator range. They teach gun safety, care and respect for guns and human life, Heru said. *Blacks and guns have a history* The sharp rise in Black gun ownership implies Blacks have been less willing to arm themselves in the past. But Dupree, Franklin and other gun advocates point out that there has been a tradition of Black gun ownership for community protection dating back to groups such as the Deacons for Defense and the Black Panthers. They referenced the teachings of Malcolm X and even in Tulsa, Oklahoma, where a group of gun-owning Black WWI veterans tried to save a Black man from being lynched prior to the burning of "Black Wall Street" in 1921. Martin Luther King Jr. applied for a gun permit after the bombing of his house but was turned down. Earlier, in 1867, Frederick Douglass said, "A man's rights rest in three boxes: the ballot box, jury box and the cartridge box. Harriet Tubman carried a pistol on her treks to rescue slaves. For Tubman, advocates say, the gun was a tool like a rake or a hoe that was needed to function in a hostile environment. That same hostility can be felt today, the advocate added. *Why would you want the racists to be the only ones with knowledge of firearms? Philadelphia gun advocate and founder of Black Guns Matter, Maj Toure, recently asked a reporter.* Nevertheless, *gun proponents stress the need for safety education and overall training for all those novices whove decided to buy firearms.* --- Voted NO and left the second question blank. <cite>brestugo posted [p:958459707] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>https://tinyurl.com/p6nrp2yd (Philadelphia Tribune) Essence, who preferred not to use her full name, was reluctant to talk as she descended the steps of the Gun Range on Percy Street in North Philadelphia. The whap, whap, whap of gunfire reverberated in the hallway as she walked down the long flight of stairs and onto the street. She and her male companion had just exited the Gun Range, where paying customers sharpen their shooting skills. Behind a bulletproof glass, a fusillade of bullets from a wide range of rifles, revolvers and pistols explode out of muzzles and rip into paper targets. "I'm torn," Essence said as she stopped for a quick chat. "I know that guns are killing us. Blacks are shooting each other. But I need a gun to protect myself and my family. I'm forced into a corner." Essence posed a question that a growing number of Blacks in Philadelphia and the nation are asking and answering the same way she did: Theyre buying guns. According to the National Shooting Sports Foundation, gun sales among Black men and women increased by 58% in the first six months of last year. Like Essence, novice gun owners are frequenting shooting ranges and joining gun clubs and advocacy groups in startling numbers. Crime is the prime mover of this growing trend, Black gun advocates say, adding that rising homicide rates in Philly and elsewhere are fueled in part by the financial and emotional stress of the coronavirus thats magnified in Black communities. This rising death toll comes at a time when police brutality and violent white supremacists are constant concerns, said Daniel Webster, professor of American Health in Violence Prevention at the Bloomberg School of Public Health. "We've seen such an increase in white nationalist violence," added Webster, who is also director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Violence Prevention and Policy. "Some combination of the lack of faith in police protecting you, and hate groups, have motivated a lot of Black people to arm up," Webster said. According to the Mapping Philadelphias Gun Violence Crisis website, as of Friday, there have been 1,310 nonfatal and 325 fatal shooting victims in the city, and the homicide rate jumped 17% over last year. In response, Black gun ownership, especially among Black females like Essence, is surging. Byron Franklin, an aspiring gun store owner in Philadelphia, said that if he had known gun sales would spike the way they have, he would already own a gun shop. But he said he was advised few Blacks would have money to invest in weapons during a pandemic. "Instead, gun sales quadrupled!" he chuckled. Black gun associations have grown in Philadelphia and around the nation in recent months to support these new Black gun owners. The Robert Brown Elliott Gun Club is among a slew of them with catchy names like Train 2 Fight, Black Guns Matter, Defensive Unicorns, and the Not Fucking Around Coalition (NFAC). Franklin founded Train 2 Fight. His fiance, Dannielle Dupree, established Defensive Unicorns, primarily to support domestic violence survivors. The couple agree that new gun owners need training and education to avoid accidents as well as to avoid abusing their weapons. That way, gun ownership, gun clubs and gun education could be the cure for gun violence, not the cause. The NFAC, which bills itself as a 1,500-member Black militia group, has made frequent appearances at police brutality protests and demonstrations for Black gun rights. A combination of old separatist Black Muslims and the former Black Panther Party for Self-Defense, the group came close to clashing with a white right-wing militia group, the Three Percenters, at a recent demonstration in Louisville, Kentucky, according to The Courier Journal. The group was profiled in the April edition of The Atlantic, as testament to its growing notoriety. So widespread is the current interest in gun ownership that Blacks have formed their own answer to the National Rifle Association. This umbrella group is called the National African American Gun Association (NAAGA), founded by Georgia resident Philip Smith. The group helps Blacks who cant relate to the NRA, which Smith said has failed to reach out to them. The group aims to provide an extra level of comfort for Blacks based on common experiences, much the same as Black fraternal and professional organizations. The association which claims to have 45,000 members nationwide (over 60% of them women) in 75 chapters aims to help educate Blacks with guns and help them navigate the shoals of gun laws across America. Moreover, NAAGA helps with Black gun owners' dilemma of rising Black homicides on one side, rising white militias on the other, and how to stay safe from both extremes. The value of these groups is learning with people who know your struggle and understand whats happening and has been happening with this country, said Anubis Heru, the owner of the 1770 Armory and Gun Club Denver, touted as Colorados first Black-owned firearm store and simulator range. They teach gun safety, care and respect for guns and human life, Heru said. Blacks and guns have a history The sharp rise in Black gun ownership implies Blacks have been less willing to arm themselves in the past. But Dupree, Franklin and other gun advocates point out that there has been a tradition of Black gun ownership for community protection dating back to groups such as the Deacons for Defense and the Black Panthers. They referenced the teachings of Malcolm X and even in Tulsa, Oklahoma, where a group of gun-owning Black WWI veterans tried to save a Black man from being lynched prior to the burning of "Black Wall Street" in 1921. Martin Luther King Jr. applied for a gun permit after the bombing of his house but was turned down. Earlier, in 1867, Frederick Douglass said, "A man's rights rest in three boxes: the ballot box, jury box and the cartridge box. Harriet Tubman carried a pistol on her treks to rescue slaves. For Tubman, advocates say, the gun was a tool like a rake or a hoe that was needed to function in a hostile environment. That same hostility can be felt today, the advocate added. Why would you want the racists to be the only ones with knowledge of firearms? Philadelphia gun advocate and founder of Black Guns Matter, Maj Toure, recently asked a reporter. Nevertheless, gun proponents stress the need for safety education and overall training for all those novices whove decided to buy firearms. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Health 09/27/21 9:19:31 AM #2:	Isnt Blacks racist? It should be Black people. <cite>Health posted [p:958459752] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>Isnt Blacks racist? It should be Black people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ving_Rhames 09/27/21 9:23:32 AM #3:	Good. --- the real Irving Rameses https://imgur.com/A7f6F9h <cite>Ving_Rhames posted [p:958459850] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>Good. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flauros 09/27/21 9:25:31 AM #4:	Health posted... Isnt Blacks racist? It should be Black people. Uhhhhh YIKES!!! Its not "Black People", its "People of Color". --- https://imgur.com/EX6Md7k https://imgur.com/X4cT0Sp Yim/Yum https://imgur.com/A3kur0P https://imgur.com/Hj9RrC6 <cite>Flauros posted [p:958459897] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>Health posted... </cite> <quote>Isnt Blacks racist? It should be Black people.</quote>Uhhhhh YIKES!!! Its not "Black People", its "People of Color". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Turbam 09/27/21 9:26:29 AM #5:	Health posted... Isnt Blacks racist? It should be Black people. Nah, it's alright. If it's "The blacks" then I'd get some kinda vibe from them. But then again, I can't speak for every black person, just myself :V --- ~snip (V)_(;,;)_(V) snip~ I'm just one man! Whoa! Well, I'm a one man band! https://imgur.com/p9Xvjvs <cite>Turbam posted [p:958459927] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>Health posted... </cite> <quote>Isnt Blacks racist? It should be Black people.</quote>Nah, it's alright. If it's "The blacks" then I'd get some kinda vibe from them. But then again, I can't speak for every black person, just myself :V </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sabrestorm 09/27/21 9:27:22 AM #6:	I hope everyone carrying a gun is doing it legally, follow all rules and laws --- The Truth is the Truth <cite>sabrestorm posted [p:958459950] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>I hope everyone carrying a gun is doing it legally, follow all rules and laws </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jagr_68 09/27/21 9:28:00 AM #7:	North Philly is a shithole of crime and police don't want anything to do with it so fuck it, may as well educate folks there to protect themselves more realistically and ethically...with firearms. --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 <cite>Jagr_68 posted [p:958459969] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>North Philly is a shithole of crime and police don't want anything to do with it so fuck it, may as well educate folks there to protect themselves more realistically and ethically...with firearms. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 09/27/21 9:28:25 AM #8:	That Not Fucking Around Coalition sounds like a real live bunch. --- Voted NO and left the second question blank. <cite>brestugo posted [p:958459980] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>That Not Fucking Around Coalition sounds like a real live bunch. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperShake666 09/27/21 9:35:10 AM #9:	I'm white and I've been seriously considering getting a gun to defend myself from those white terrorists. I can't imagine what it feels like to be a PoC with those psychos running rampant in this country. --- "Look, if I was good at math, I wouldn't be on CE at 2:00 the morning clicking on topics about porn stars ****ing horses." - May 2017, Dash_Harber <cite>SuperShake666 posted [p:958460122] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>I'm white and I've been seriously considering getting a gun to defend myself from those white terrorists. I can't imagine what it feels like to be a PoC with those psychos running rampant in this country. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jagr_68 09/27/21 10:07:52 AM #10:	SuperShake666 posted... I'm white and I've been seriously considering getting a gun to defend myself from those white terrorists. I can't imagine what it feels like to be a PoC with those psychos running rampant in this country. The Proud Boys are dumb, fat cowards that don't enter regions with heavily urban communities. Nobody in the Atlantic/Northeast US is afraid of them. --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 <cite>Jagr_68 posted [p:958460840] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>SuperShake666 posted... </cite> <quote>I'm white and I've been seriously considering getting a gun to defend myself from those white terrorists. I can't imagine what it feels like to be a PoC with those psychos running rampant in this country.</quote> The Proud Boys are dumb, fat cowards that don't enter regions with heavily urban communities. Nobody in the Atlantic/Northeast US is afraid of them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 09/27/21 11:03:21 AM #11:	What's the reaction I'm supposed to have here? All I got is "nice". <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:958462222] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>What's the reaction I'm supposed to have here? All I got is "nice". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DogOfPeace 09/27/21 11:04:38 AM #12:	Welp, I guess we are going to get gun restrictions after all. --- Woof! <cite>DogOfPeace posted [p:958462259] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>Welp, I guess we are going to get gun restrictions after all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 09/27/21 11:24:37 AM #13:	fair next --- Her name is Rio and she dances on the sand. <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:958462834] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>fair next </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 09/27/21 6:26:33 PM #14:	SuperShake666 posted... I'm white and I've been seriously considering getting a gun to defend myself from those white terrorists. I can't imagine what it feels like to be a PoC with those psychos running rampant in this country. Larry Flynt - not the saintliest person of course, but he had his moments - said about 20 years ago that people on the left should arm themselves as a deterrent. Because the gun loving right is most likely to use their arms for other purposes. --- Voted NO and left the second question blank. <cite>brestugo posted [p:958474721] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>SuperShake666 posted... </cite> <quote>I'm white and I've been seriously considering getting a gun to defend myself from those white terrorists. I can't imagine what it feels like to be a PoC with those psychos running rampant in this country.</quote>Larry Flynt - not the saintliest person of course, but he had his moments - said about 20 years ago that people on the left should arm themselves as a deterrent. Because the gun loving right is most likely to use their arms for other purposes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 09/27/21 6:38:22 PM #15:	Aren't cops the reason gangs were formed in the first place? Because racism didn't magically disappear when slavery was over and white people still controlled all authorities. So, it was very easy just to treat the community as fucked up as they wanted to anyway. So gangs were a retaliation to being treated like animals by cops. I forgot where I heard this tbh. --- Name checks out "I don't wanna be the toughest, I just keep it 100 and think nothin of it"- Black Thought <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:958475051] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>Aren't cops the reason gangs were formed in the first place? Because racism didn't magically disappear when slavery was over and white people still controlled all authorities. So, it was very easy just to treat the community as fucked up as they wanted to anyway. So gangs were a retaliation to being treated like animals by cops. I forgot where I heard this tbh. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 09/27/21 6:38:48 PM #16:	Good --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:958475056] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>Good </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AngelsNAirwav3s 09/27/21 6:43:28 PM #18:	brestugo posted... Crime is the prime mover of this growing trend, Black gun advocates say, adding that rising homicide rates in Philly and elsewhere are fueled in part by the financial and emotional stress of the coronavirus thats magnified in Black communities. This rising death toll comes at a time when police brutality and violent white supremacists are constant concerns, said Daniel Webster, professor of American Health in Violence Prevention at the Bloomberg School of Public Health. I wonder what the stats are in Philly of black people murdered by white supremacists vs. other black people. --- Hello world! <cite>AngelsNAirwav3s posted [p:958475192] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>brestugo posted... </cite> <quote>Crime is the prime mover of this growing trend, Black gun advocates say, adding that rising homicide rates in Philly and elsewhere are fueled in part by the financial and emotional stress of the coronavirus thats magnified in Black communities. This rising death toll comes at a time when police brutality and violent white supremacists are constant concerns, said Daniel Webster, professor of American Health in Violence Prevention at the Bloomberg School of Public Health.</quote> I wonder what the stats are in Philly of black people murdered by white supremacists vs. other black people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrettyBoyFloyd 09/27/21 6:45:15 PM #19:	Jagr_68 posted... North Philly is a shithole of crime and police don't want anything to do with it so fuck it, may as well educate folks there to protect themselves more realistically and ethically...with firearms. Yea you should never wait for the police hiding in a closet to come and handle shit. Some situations need to be handled immediately than dialing 911. --- The Evil Republicans - Est.2004 - WoT [Government Destabilizing Branch] <cite>PrettyBoyFloyd posted [p:958475229] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>Jagr_68 posted... </cite> <quote>North Philly is a shithole of crime and police don't want anything to do with it so fuck it, may as well educate folks there to protect themselves more realistically and ethically...with firearms.</quote> Yea you should never wait for the police hiding in a closet to come and handle shit. Some situations need to be handled immediately than dialing 911. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dakimakura 09/27/21 6:45:46 PM #20:	time to fight back --- https://imgur.com/ca2qBa1 ^My wife <cite>Dakimakura posted [p:958475243] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>time to fight back </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 09/27/21 6:46:10 PM #21:	Lost_All_Senses posted... Aren't cops the reason gangs were formed in the first place? Because racism didn't magically disappear when slavery was over and white people still controlled all authorities. So, it was very easy just to treat the community as fucked up as they wanted to anyway. So gangs were a retaliation to being treated like animals by cops. I forgot where I heard this tbh. I don't know about all gangs but in some places Irish, Italian and Jewish gangs formed as "protection rackets" because the cops weren't doing shit. --- Voted NO and left the second question blank. <cite>brestugo posted [p:958475251] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>Lost_All_Senses posted... </cite> <quote>Aren't cops the reason gangs were formed in the first place? Because racism didn't magically disappear when slavery was over and white people still controlled all authorities. So, it was very easy just to treat the community as fucked up as they wanted to anyway. So gangs were a retaliation to being treated like animals by cops. I forgot where I heard this tbh.</quote>I don't know about all gangs but in some places Irish, Italian and Jewish gangs formed as "protection rackets" because the cops weren't doing shit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 09/27/21 6:47:21 PM #22:	Cpt_Pineapple posted... now watch the conservatives hate the 2nd amendment I mean that's what happened in California when the Black Panthers started doing armed patrols. Motherfuckers couldn't get their open carry rights taken away fast enough. Even the NRA was like "armed and organized blacks? WE CAN'T HAVE THAT". --- "If you wish to converse with me define your terms" Voltaire <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:958475275] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>Cpt_Pineapple posted... </cite> <quote>now watch the conservatives hate the 2nd amendment</quote>I mean that's what happened in California when the Black Panthers started doing armed patrols. Motherfuckers couldn't get their open carry rights taken away fast enough. Even the NRA was like "armed and organized blacks? WE CAN'T HAVE THAT". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 09/27/21 6:49:52 PM #23:	brestugo posted... I don't know about all gangs but in some places Irish, Italian and Jewish gangs formed as "protection rackets" because the cops weren't doing shit. Oh yeah. Different situation, but I can see how it relates. --- Name checks out "I don't wanna be the toughest, I just keep it 100 and think nothin of it"- Black Thought <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:958475342] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>brestugo posted... </cite> <quote>I don't know about all gangs but in some places Irish, Italian and Jewish gangs formed as "protection rackets" because the cops weren't doing shit.</quote> Oh yeah. Different situation, but I can see how it relates. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
David1988 09/27/21 6:50:27 PM #24:	Good, I love guns and the second amendment now --- "Let's be honest...I'm everybody's type. I just gotta highlight the parts that appeal to her the most" - No_U_L7 <cite>David1988 posted [p:958475358] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>Good, I love guns and the second amendment now </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Materus 09/27/21 6:53:25 PM #25:	Im a staunch 2A supporter and stuff like this is a great use of it. --- Gamers. <cite>Materus posted [p:958475429] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>Im a staunch 2A supporter and stuff like this is a great use of it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrettyBoyFloyd 09/27/21 6:54:54 PM #26:	Lost_All_Senses posted... Oh yeah. Different situation, but I can see how it relates. Cops were taking their cut too in some cases. That's how it works. --- The Evil Republicans - Est.2004 - WoT [Government Destabilizing Branch] <cite>PrettyBoyFloyd posted [p:958475473] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>Lost_All_Senses posted... </cite> <quote>Oh yeah. Different situation, but I can see how it relates.</quote> Cops were taking their cut too in some cases. That's how it works. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 09/27/21 7:00:35 PM #27:	PrettyBoyFloyd posted... Cops were taking their cut too in some cases. That's how it works. I feel like this is getting off topic. Police don't want to profit off the black community, they want to oppress them and keep them "in line". It's coming from a very different much more hateful place and past. --- Name checks out "I don't wanna be the toughest, I just keep it 100 and think nothin of it"- Black Thought <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:958475618] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>PrettyBoyFloyd posted... </cite> <quote>Cops were taking their cut too in some cases. That's how it works.</quote> I feel like this is getting off topic. Police don't want to profit off the black community, they want to oppress them and keep them "in line". It's coming from a very different much more hateful place and past. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
harley2280 09/27/21 7:03:59 PM #28:	Good. Also good for them not joining the NRA who has a history of ignoring people of color. --- PSN/GT: Harley2280 <cite>harley2280 posted [p:958475702] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>Good. Also good for them not joining the NRA who has a history of ignoring people of color.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 09/27/21 7:05:20 PM #29:	Materus posted... Im a staunch 2A supporter and stuff like this is a great use of it. Echoing this sentiment. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:958475736] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>Materus posted... </cite> <quote>Im a staunch 2A supporter and stuff like this is a great use of it.</quote>Echoing this sentiment. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Son Of Spam 09/27/21 7:12:35 PM #30:	Conservatives inadvertently made me very pro-second amendment by being nutcases. --- 17 years on Gamefaqs, and I still don't have a signature. <cite>Son Of Spam posted [p:958475915] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>Conservatives inadvertently made me very pro-second amendment by being nutcases. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 09/27/21 7:59:42 PM #31:	ScazarMeltex posted... I mean that's what happened in California when the Black Panthers started doing armed patrols. Motherfuckers couldn't get their open carry rights taken away fast enough. Even the NRA was like "armed and organized blacks? WE CAN'T HAVE THAT". The NRA began as gun-control advocacy, because black gun ownership was increasing. https://dailycaller.com/2013/02/02/nra-president-david-keene-gun-control-laws-are-historically-racist-video/ <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:958477095] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite> <quote>I mean that's what happened in California when the Black Panthers started doing armed patrols. Motherfuckers couldn't get their open carry rights taken away fast enough. Even the NRA was like "armed and organized blacks? WE CAN'T HAVE THAT".</quote>The NRA began as gun-control advocacy, because black gun ownership was increasing. https://dailycaller.com/2013/02/02/nra-president-david-keene-gun-control-laws-are-historically-racist-video/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Donomark 09/27/21 8:02:55 PM #32:	"Blacks and guns have a history" ...Uh, not offended, but this really could've been worded in a better way. --- "You can do it your way, or you can be effective." http://dbznextdimension.libsyn.com/ http://cbfrevue.libsyn.com/ <cite>Donomark posted [p:958477180] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>"Blacks and guns have a history" ...Uh, not offended, but this really could've been worded in a better way. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 09/27/21 8:15:34 PM #33:	Questionmarktarius posted... The NRA began as gun-control advocacy, because black gun ownership was increasing. https://dailycaller.com/2013/02/02/nra-president-david-keene-gun-control-laws-are-historically-racist-video/ No it actually began because Americans were such bad shots in the Civil War. 1000 shots for every Confederate hit. That's a lot of wasted ammunition. It's initial goal was marksmanship and gun safety. It became a gun control advocacy group in the 1960s around the time of Huey Newton and blacks openly carrying and they supported the laws Reagan signed as CA governor. Then around the time Reagan became president, it became what it is today - a group of myopic 2nd amendment absolutists. --- Voted NO and left the second question blank. <cite>brestugo posted [p:958477492] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>The NRA began as gun-control advocacy, because black gun ownership was increasing. https://dailycaller.com/2013/02/02/nra-president-david-keene-gun-control-laws-are-historically-racist-video/</quote> No it actually began because Americans were such bad shots in the Civil War. 1000 shots for every Confederate hit. That's a lot of wasted ammunition. It's initial goal was marksmanship and gun safety. It became a gun control advocacy group in the 1960s around the time of Huey Newton and blacks openly carrying and they supported the laws Reagan signed as CA governor. Then around the time Reagan became president, it became what it is today - a group of myopic 2nd amendment absolutists. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 09/27/21 8:19:21 PM #34:	brestugo posted... It's initial goal was marksmanship and gun safety. If I can hastily google a source, you can too <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:958477586] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>brestugo posted... </cite> <quote>It's initial goal was marksmanship and gun safety.</quote>If I can hastily google a source, you can too </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkprince45 09/27/21 8:24:51 PM #35:	Lost_All_Senses posted... Aren't cops the reason gangs were formed in the first place? Because racism didn't magically disappear when slavery was over and white people still controlled all authorities. So, it was very easy just to treat the community as fucked up as they wanted to anyway. So gangs were a retaliation to being treated like animals by cops. I forgot where I heard this tbh. come on dude lol. Street style gangs predate back to the industrial Revolution due to various reasons mainly involving close community . Not because of the boogeymen for this board --- https://s6.gifyu.com/images/FAA2F70E-9A97-44BC-A273-317FBB843AE2.gif <cite>darkprince45 posted [p:958477761] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>Lost_All_Senses posted... </cite> <quote>Aren't cops the reason gangs were formed in the first place? Because racism didn't magically disappear when slavery was over and white people still controlled all authorities. So, it was very easy just to treat the community as fucked up as they wanted to anyway. So gangs were a retaliation to being treated like animals by cops. I forgot where I heard this tbh.</quote> come on dude lol. Street style gangs predate back to the industrial Revolution due to various reasons mainly involving close community . Not because of the boogeymen for this board </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
brestugo 09/27/21 8:30:31 PM #36:	Questionmarktarius posted... If I can hastily google a source, you can too No need to google what I already know. Since you need a source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Rifle_Association#cite_note-31 The National Rifle Association was first chartered in the State of New York on November 17, 1871[19][5] by Army and Navy Journal editor William Conant Church and Captain George Wood Wingate. On November 25, 1871, the group voted to elect its first corporate officers. Union Army Civil War General Ambrose Burnside, who had worked as a Rhode Island gunsmith, was elected president.[20] When Burnside resigned on August 1, 1872,[21] Church succeeded him as president.[22] Union Army records for the Civil War indicate that its troops fired about 1,000 rifle shots for each Confederate hit, causing General Burnside to lament his recruits: *"Out of ten soldiers who are perfect in drill and the manual of arms, only one knows the purpose of the sights on his gun or can hit the broad side of a barn.*"[23][24][25] The generals attributed this to the use of volley tactics, devised for earlier, less accurate smoothbore muskets.[26][27] *Ambrose Burnside, Union Army general, Governor of Rhode Island, and first president of the NRA* *Recognizing a need for better training, Wingate sent emissaries to Canada, the United Kingdom, and Germany to observe militia and armies' marksmanship training programs*.[28] With plans provided by Wingate, the New York Legislature funded the construction of a modern range at Creedmoor, Long Island, for long-range shooting competitions. The range officially opened on June 21, 1873.[29] The Central Railroad of Long Island established a railway station nearby, with trains running from Hunter's Point, with connecting boat service to 34th Street and the East River, allowing access from New York City.[30] --- Voted NO and left the second question blank. <cite>brestugo posted [p:958477958] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>Questionmarktarius posted... </cite> <quote>If I can hastily google a source, you can too</quote> No need to google what I already know. Since you need a source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Rifle_Association#cite_note-31 The National Rifle Association was first chartered in the State of New York on November 17, 1871[19][5] by Army and Navy Journal editor William Conant Church and Captain George Wood Wingate. On November 25, 1871, the group voted to elect its first corporate officers. Union Army Civil War General Ambrose Burnside, who had worked as a Rhode Island gunsmith, was elected president.[20] When Burnside resigned on August 1, 1872,[21] Church succeeded him as president.[22] Union Army records for the Civil War indicate that its troops fired about 1,000 rifle shots for each Confederate hit, causing General Burnside to lament his recruits: "Out of ten soldiers who are perfect in drill and the manual of arms, only one knows the purpose of the sights on his gun or can hit the broad side of a barn."[23][24][25] The generals attributed this to the use of volley tactics, devised for earlier, less accurate smoothbore muskets.[26][27] Ambrose Burnside, Union Army general, Governor of Rhode Island, and first president of the NRA Recognizing a need for better training, Wingate sent emissaries to Canada, the United Kingdom, and Germany to observe militia and armies' marksmanship training programs.[28] With plans provided by Wingate, the New York Legislature funded the construction of a modern range at Creedmoor, Long Island, for long-range shooting competitions. The range officially opened on June 21, 1873.[29] The Central Railroad of Long Island established a railway station nearby, with trains running from Hunter's Point, with connecting boat service to 34th Street and the East River, allowing access from New York City.[30] </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrettyBoyFloyd 09/27/21 8:31:05 PM #37:	Lost_All_Senses posted... Aren't cops the reason gangs were formed in the first place? Because racism didn't magically disappear when slavery was over and white people still controlled all authorities. So, it was very easy just to treat the community as fucked up as they wanted to anyway. So gangs were a retaliation to being treated like animals by cops. I forgot where I heard this tbh. darkprince45 posted... come on dude lol. Street style gangs predate back to the industrial Revolution due to various reasons mainly involving close community . Not because of the boogeymen for this board Easy money mostly. Like why work or beg when you can have things forcibly given to you or when you can steal it. Others will move in and try to push you out. --- The Evil Republicans - Est.2004 - WoT [Government Destabilizing Branch] <cite>PrettyBoyFloyd posted [p:958477977] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>Lost_All_Senses posted... </cite> <quote>Aren't cops the reason gangs were formed in the first place? Because racism didn't magically disappear when slavery was over and white people still controlled all authorities. So, it was very easy just to treat the community as fucked up as they wanted to anyway. So gangs were a retaliation to being treated like animals by cops. I forgot where I heard this tbh.</quote> darkprince45 posted... </cite> <quote>come on dude lol. Street style gangs predate back to the industrial Revolution due to various reasons mainly involving close community . Not because of the boogeymen for this board</quote> Easy money mostly. Like why work or beg when you can have things forcibly given to you or when you can steal it. Others will move in and try to push you out. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dj1200 09/27/21 8:33:08 PM #38:	Flauros posted... Uhhhhh YIKES!!! Its not "Black People", its "People of Color". People of color implies more than just Black folks. Everyone nonwhite. --- "It was so ridiculous and I have so many feelings about it." -Virtual Energies <cite>dj1200 posted [p:958478049] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>Flauros posted... </cite> <quote>Uhhhhh YIKES!!! Its not "Black People", its "People of Color".</quote> People of color implies more than just Black folks. Everyone nonwhite. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/27/21 8:37:57 PM #39:	God bless --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:958478187] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>God bless </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrettyBoyFloyd 09/27/21 8:40:58 PM #40:	dj1200 posted... People of color implies more than just Black folks. Everyone nonwhite. Guess white, beige and pink doesn't count. --- The Evil Republicans - Est.2004 - WoT [Government Destabilizing Branch] <cite>PrettyBoyFloyd posted [p:958478274] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>dj1200 posted... </cite> <quote>People of color implies more than just Black folks. Everyone nonwhite.</quote> Guess white, beige and pink doesn't count. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TerraSeeker 09/27/21 9:09:21 PM #41:	Nice --- Your words are as empty as your soul <cite>TerraSeeker posted [p:958479220] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>Nice </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJPurple 09/27/21 9:55:46 PM #42:	Ving_Rhames posted... Good. This. Stay strapped. They live by the its your life or theirs mentality so you should to. Im not saying hurt people but if youre put in a situation where you think some racist prick or crooked cop might kill youitd be nice to have that option. --- Long Term Effects of Suffering #G59 <cite>SSJPurple posted [p:958480593] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>Ving_Rhames posted... </cite> <quote>Good.</quote> This. Stay strapped. They live by the its your life or theirs mentality so you should to. Im not saying hurt people but if youre put in a situation where you think some racist prick or crooked cop might kill youitd be nice to have that option. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BobanMarjanovic 09/30/21 12:39:07 AM #43:	guns are great but why not just follow instructions when you get pulled over? --- I killed those guys because they were awful, everybody is awful these days. <cite>BobanMarjanovic posted [p:958548663] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>guns are great but why not just follow instructions when you get pulled over? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PrettyBoyFloyd 09/30/21 5:52:02 PM #44:	Hell I know several Latinos and black dudes that legally carry already. And like with everyone else, if they're criminals they'll be going heavy anyway. --- The Evil Republicans - Est.2004 - WoT [Government Destabilizing Branch] <cite>PrettyBoyFloyd posted [p:958569972] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>Hell I know several Latinos and black dudes that legally carry already. And like with everyone else, if they're criminals they'll be going heavy anyway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ving_Rhames 10/01/21 3:25:35 AM #45:	BobanMarjanovic posted... guns are great but why not just follow instructions when you get pulled over? Did you even read the article you absolute joke of a person --- the real Irving Rameses https://imgur.com/A7f6F9h <cite>Ving_Rhames posted [p:958582947] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>BobanMarjanovic posted... </cite> <quote>guns are great but why not just follow instructions when you get pulled over?</quote> Did you even read the article you absolute joke of a person </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dj1200 10/01/21 4:17:34 AM #46:	PrettyBoyFloyd posted... Guess white, beige and pink doesn't count. nope --- "It was so ridiculous and I have so many feelings about it." -Virtual Energies <cite>dj1200 posted [p:958583475] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>PrettyBoyFloyd posted... </cite> <quote>Guess white, beige and pink doesn't count.</quote>nope </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RiKuToTheMiGhtY 10/01/21 4:25:06 AM #47:	Everyone needs to embrace their 2nd amendment right to defend themselves with a firearm. Do not rely on the police, protect yourself and your loved ones. --- doa-plus.com - We Press Forward. . . By Pressing Back. <cite>RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted [p:958583550] in Blacks res... [t:79681881]...</cite> <quote>Everyone needs to embrace their 2nd amendment right to defend themselves with a firearm. Do not rely on the police, protect yourself and your loved ones. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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