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hockeybub89
09/27/21 1:13:10 AM
#51:


It's funny when conservatives start whining about respect and everyone loving each other as soon as dangerous choices are being ostracized. Maybe anti-vaxxers should start being born gay and then we'll be allowed to ostracize them

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MI4 REAL
09/27/21 1:14:50 AM
#52:


Are you hating on gay people?

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Guide
09/27/21 1:15:48 AM
#53:


MI4 REAL posted...
Are you hating on gay people?
You're not this stupid.

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MI4 REAL
09/27/21 1:16:32 AM
#54:


Guide posted...
You're not this stupid.

Yeah I like to be obtuse sometimes.

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VigorouslySwish
09/27/21 2:05:46 AM
#55:


ZMythos posted...
I won't say you're not justified in feeling this way, but I know two people who are immunocompromised and rely on herd immunity for their health. I don't want them to be a part of the preventable death toll.

I hear ya man, my own mother is highly immunocompromised. Shes all vaxxed up though, and there isnt much more that can be done beyond that. I truly think every bit of trying to convince these antivax people to get it is just further entrenching their anti-science beliefs.

Imagine being so sure you are right, and then slowly realizing the enemy was right. It just makes them angrier and makes them dive into insane alternatives to prove that they were the smart ones all along.

Theres no convincing people that totally refuse something simply based on how others might view them politically.

Its time to stop caring and just let nature take its course with them.

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Dathrowed1
09/27/21 8:37:00 AM
#56:


VigorouslySwish posted...
I truly think every bit of trying to convince these antivax people to get it is just further entrenching their anti-science beliefs.
Actually there are some MDs who have said some people they have talked to who were vaccine hesitant did get the vaccine

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gatorsPENSbucs
09/27/21 8:54:19 AM
#57:


Why is only the right mentioned in the topic? Weird, since all sorts of people arent getting vaccinated. Weird.

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IShall_Run_Amok
09/27/21 9:18:10 AM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Why is only the right mentioned in the topic?
Because they're just as much of a poison as plague rats.

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sabrestorm
09/27/21 9:19:58 AM
#59:


Dont hate is my motto

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joe40001
09/27/21 9:21:48 AM
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unnamedsoldier
09/27/21 9:22:56 AM
#61:


Hold the views I want you to hold OR ELSE
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IShall_Run_Amok
09/27/21 9:26:35 AM
#62:


unnamedsoldier posted...
Hold the views I want you to hold OR ELSE
Hopefully the alt right and anti vaxxers will go to prison.

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Xethuminra
09/27/21 9:27:20 AM
#63:


It was never worth it.
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ThyCorndog
09/27/21 9:44:37 AM
#64:


joe40001 posted...
Person on the right is either a dumbass or 12 years old

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FortuneCookie
09/27/21 9:59:44 AM
#65:


Dathrowed1 posted...
Has shaming actually ever worked?

Kinda. But not the way people who shame think it does. It galvanizes the right by making them think the left are a buncha smarmy jerks.

In the end, it's all about keeping conflict going
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joe40001
09/27/21 10:07:29 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
In the end, it's all about keeping conflict going

Yeah, if OP's goal is keeping everybody hostile and fighting, they have some on point advice.

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ROOTFayth
09/27/21 10:15:59 AM
#67:


yeah I think if youre looking for results then the approach of ostracizing people is not the correct play

it really makes me think of vegans who are calling meat eaters murderers, this has never changed anyones mind, if anything it pushes them deeper into their convictions

so yeah anyway get vaccinated and present evidence with as much calm and compassion as possible, if you feel you dont have much control over your emotions regarding the matter then the 2nd best play is probably ignoring them, the 3rd play and most -EV one being ostracizing them
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soulunison2
09/27/21 10:20:33 AM
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Deplatforming them works wonders
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Solar_Crimson
09/27/21 10:22:06 AM
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CreekCo posted...
2. Alt left is equally as insane as alt right.
There's no such thing as the "alt-left".

CreekCo posted...
1. Why do you feel the need to marginalize and discriminate? That's a wild accusation you are throwing out there without facts or justification.
CreekCo posted...
3. Why don't you exercise your freedom and take care of your medical situations and mind your business? If you take care, you'll be ok and that's their problem. This is allegedly a free country.
Because their "freedom" is actively harming people around them, and keeping us from seeing the light at the end of the tunnel in regards to the pandemic.

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ROOTFayth
09/27/21 10:26:09 AM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
keeping us from seeing the light at the end of the tunnel in regards to the pandemic.
to me that sounds more like a you problem than anything else, this part at least, Im quite optimistic and can see the light at the end of the tunnel personally, just keep yourself occupied in the meantime
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SergeantGander
09/27/21 10:35:52 AM
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I hear China has quite a robust re-education system in place for those with alternative views.

Kamala or Joe should go take some notes for managing the anti-vaxxers

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joe40001
09/27/21 10:37:21 AM
#72:


SergeantGander posted...
I hear China has quite a robust re-education system in place for those with alternative views.

Kamala or Joe should go take some notes for managing the anti-vaxxers

Please be satire

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ROOTFayth
09/27/21 10:43:59 AM
#73:


definitely satire lol
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Vicious_Dios
09/27/21 1:20:37 PM
#74:


Guide posted...
Realtalk, did you get the vax?

None of your business, but I'm always taking my necessary precautions.

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Solid Sonic
09/27/21 1:21:17 PM
#75:


I feel like you're putting too much effort into making people into pariahs.

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DarthAragorn
09/27/21 1:25:18 PM
#76:


Vicious_Dios posted...
None of your business, but I'm always taking my necessary precautions.
So that's a no.

What was it, the microchips? Bill Gates being behind it? Magnetism?

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Machete
09/27/21 1:28:34 PM
#77:


Vicious_Dios posted...


None of your business, but I'm always taking my necessary precautions.


Do you have equine parasites?
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Guide
09/27/21 2:34:11 PM
#78:


I didn't ask to harangue you like those guys are. I just wanted to see if the "I did but I'm embarrassed to admit it for tribal reasons" thing was true.

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ZMythos
09/27/21 6:12:44 PM
#79:


joe40001 posted...
This is some "You called me a racist so I'm gonna vote for TRUMP" bullshit right here.

Makes sense since it's joenumbers but y'know.

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LightningAce11
09/27/21 6:15:36 PM
#80:


joe40001 posted...
Please be satire
What, you don't want people to be convinced with facts and logic? Was all that a farce?

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Vicious_Dios
09/27/21 6:22:19 PM
#81:


Guide posted...
I didn't ask to harangue you like those guys are. I just wanted to see if the "I did but I'm embarrassed to admit it for tribal reasons" thing was true.

Why would I be embarrassed about keeping my health intact?

I've always been vocal about being a germaphobe here and will always make double sure to protect myself at all costs. I don't smoke, nor do any kind of drugs for that same reason as well.

Fuck I look like being a junkie? lmao

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joe40001
09/27/21 7:05:35 PM
#83:


LightningAce11 posted...
What, you don't want people to be convinced with facts and logic? Was all that a farce?

I don't know what this comment is trying to say relative to my comment.

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Solid Sonic
09/27/21 7:43:41 PM
#84:


joe40001 posted...

I can...SORT of see how this might work but it's a faulty premise.

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Gamerguymass
09/27/21 7:50:25 PM
#85:


I mean the fact that you seem to think that it's only the right that are anti-vaxxers shows you to be just as ignorant as the anti-vaxxers.

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ZMythos
09/27/21 8:04:50 PM
#86:


Gamerguymass posted...
I mean the fact that you seem to think that it's only the right that are anti-vaxxers shows you to be just as ignorant as the anti-vaxxers.
You seem to misunderstand what the word "and" means.

As in, alt-right AND anti-vaxxers.

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joe40001
09/27/21 8:22:21 PM
#87:


ZMythos posted...
You seem to misunderstand what the word "and" means.

As in, alt-right AND anti-vaxxers.

So you have no problem with left leaning anti-vaxxers?

lol

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ROOTFayth
09/27/21 8:26:55 PM
#88:


the better question I think is why should we ostracize people from alt right who got the vaccine?
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ZMythos
09/27/21 8:30:47 PM
#89:


ROOTFayth posted...
the better question I think is why should we ostracize people from alt right who got the vaccine?
Because they're still alt-right?

joe40001 posted...
So you have no problem with left leaning anti-vaxxers?

lol
Again you have no idea what "And" means, do you? as in, the two subjects are different from one another so I include both with the conjunction "and" to make that distinction?

If I met a left leaning anti vaxxer I would also ostracize them, but all of the ones I know happen to be right leaning.

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hockeybub89
09/27/21 8:43:47 PM
#91:


unnamedsoldier posted...
Hold the views I want you to hold OR ELSE
Yeah maybe we'd eliminate murder and rape if we stopped being mean to the people who commit them. Everything is just a mere difference of belief. Everyone is correct in their reality and therefore we shouldn't judge people or have laws.

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hockeybub89
09/27/21 8:46:50 PM
#92:


It's about time we just strap down anti-vaxxers and forcibly vaccinate them.

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Vicious_Dios
09/27/21 8:49:17 PM
#93:


Ruh oh! Bubby's in double-post mode again. . . so you just know that he's in a rebel mood.

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joe40001
09/27/21 10:03:11 PM
#94:


ZMythos posted...
Because they're still alt-right?

Again you have no idea what "And" means, do you? as in, the two subjects are different from one another so I include both with the conjunction "and" to make that distinction?

The way you worded it was somewhat ambiguous.

You could have been saying
"ostracize those who fulfill both of these 2 separate groups 'alt right' and 'anti-vax' (and implicitly not necessarily ostracize those who fulfill only one)"
You could have been saying "ostracize those who fulfill this singular group 'alt-right and anti-vax' "
Or you could have been saying (what you were apparently saying)
"ostracize those who fulfill at least one of these 2 groups 'alt-right' and 'anti-vax' "

I can see the argument you'd have that your meaning is the most reasonable interpretation of your sentence, but it's untrue to say there was 0 ambiguity.

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joe40001
09/27/21 10:04:52 PM
#95:


hockeybub89 posted...
Yeah maybe we'd eliminate murder and rape if we stopped being mean to the people who commit them. Everything is just a mere difference of belief. Everyone is correct in their reality and therefore we shouldn't judge people or have laws.

Do you think somebody being far right should be illegal?

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MI4 REAL
09/27/21 10:07:03 PM
#96:


#91 and #92 sound like a contradiction to me.

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hockeybub89
09/28/21 8:27:35 AM
#97:


MI4 REAL posted...
#91 and #92 sound like a contradiction to me.
There is nothing contradictory to believing dangerous things that physically hurt other people should be banned or punished. We do it every day. That's called society. Conservatives want to cheer mass murderers like De Santis and Abbot and strip women of bodily autonomy, but choosing to spread a virus that has killed millions is a "personal choice and mine alone".

Millions/billions of people don't even support people being born gay or trans, but suddenly we have to be goddamn hippies when people start choosing to kill each other because medicine is a liberal conspiracy

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