Poll of the Day > Why are people trashing Kanye West's album?

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FatalAccident
09/26/21 6:14:58 AM
#1:


Donda is actually really not that bad at all. Quite enjoyable actually.

I mean jfc nobody needs to have 27 songs on an album chill bro but otherwise its got some nice songs

y the hate

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Mead
09/26/21 6:35:32 AM
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Because he is bipolar and people are largely intolerant of those that struggle with mental health

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SpeedDemon20
09/26/21 6:37:31 AM
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He's a jackass.

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Joshs Name
09/26/21 6:47:28 AM
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i honestly haven't sat down to listen to it cause it's so fucking long. that's enough reason for me not to think it's a good album.

it's rare to have like a really good 20 minute album, even rarer for however long donda is lol

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FrozenBananas
09/26/21 7:09:34 AM
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People for some reason cant enjoy music without associating it with the artists actions and beliefs (stupid they may be)

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Flash
09/26/21 7:46:33 AM
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Because they hate the artists actions. Make Kanye great again.
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helIy
09/26/21 8:06:02 AM
#7:


who is making 20 minute albums that's like 4 songs

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Bottlecap76
09/26/21 8:07:06 AM
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I've hated the little I've listened from it. And I don't trust modern kanye nearly enough to sit down for 27 songs

His first 3 albums are good and then he became like a completely different artist afterwards. Took a much more pop direction which is really disappointing imo. And now he makes fucking religious gospel music, its like wtf
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TheSlinja
09/26/21 11:11:47 AM
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its got 10 good songs on it but thats not even half of the 27 track hour and a half ass album
its
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much
filler
i cant call anything good if 70% is trash regardless of how good the 30 is

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papercup
09/26/21 11:18:53 AM
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I've never listened to Kanye and I aint about to start now.

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Fierce_Deity_08
09/26/21 12:20:36 PM
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The dude cant even make up his mind what his name is!

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Mead
09/26/21 1:55:25 PM
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Fierce_Deity_08 posted...
The dude cant even make up his mind what his name is!

because he is bipolar

everyone Is just like omg Kanye is so crazy. He is literally just a bipolar person who likely needs some help

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Zeus
09/26/21 2:27:44 PM
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Why are people trashing Kanye West's album?

No one man should have all that sour.

FrozenBananas posted...
People for some reason cant enjoy music without associating it with the artists actions and beliefs (stupid they may be)

People be stupid.

Fierce_Deity_08 posted...
The dude cant even make up his mind what his name is!

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Garlands_Soul
09/26/21 2:31:32 PM
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The last record I listened to that long (longer by 30 minutes) was Sandanista! by The Clash and while I liked that it's still insanely long for something like that. That one also got good reviews and this one is mixed so I'm not in any hurry to try to listen to it.

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Xfma100
09/26/21 2:33:55 PM
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Mead posted...
Because he is bipolar and people are largely intolerant of those that struggle with mental health
Mead posted...
because he is bipolar

everyone Is just like omg Kanye is so crazy. He is literally just a bipolar person who likely needs some help

I'm a huge fan of Kanye as an artist, but you can't use his mental health as a defense against all criticism. Especially when the man refuses to get help or take his medication.
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Kanatteru
09/26/21 2:38:31 PM
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Mead posted...
because he is bipolar

everyone Is just like omg Kanye is so crazy. He is literally just a bipolar person who likely needs some help

yeah this take didn't make any sense the first time you posted it either

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Mead
09/26/21 3:45:03 PM
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Xfma100 posted...
I'm a huge fan of Kanye as an artist, but you can't use his mental health as a defense against all criticism. Especially when the man refuses to get help or take his medication.

not using it as a defense, using it as an explanation, he is a sick person. His resistance to help is a symptom of the illness.

Kanatteru posted...
yeah this take didn't make any sense the first time you posted it either

Not to you

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ReturnOfFa
09/26/21 3:47:30 PM
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Mead posted...
Because he is bipolar and people are largely intolerant of those that struggle with mental health
lol wtf mead

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FatalAccident
09/26/21 4:31:56 PM
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TheSlinja posted...
its got 10 good songs on it but thats not even half of the 27 track hour and a half ass album
its
just
so
much
filler
i cant call anything good if 70% is trash regardless of how good the 30 is
Agree theres a lot of filler, but 10/27 is basically a 3.5/10. While not great, its actually not trash.

With any album though, I tend to just delete the songs I dont like. And if I end up with 10 songs I do like, thats about 5 more songs than I would end up with on a normal album.

so yeah I think its really not that bad lol

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Mead
09/26/21 4:32:48 PM
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ReturnOfFa posted...
lol wtf mead

do you think Im wrong about that?

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DirtBasedSoap
09/26/21 4:32:54 PM
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FatalAccident posted...
With any album though, I tend to just delete the songs I dont like.
holy shit the worst

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Mead
09/26/21 4:43:42 PM
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You know what album I love that a lot of people think sucks?

Day and Age by The Killers

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FatalAccident
09/26/21 4:43:44 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
holy shit the worst
what

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TheSlinja
09/26/21 4:47:31 PM
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FatalAccident posted...
but 10/27 is basically a 3.5/10. While not great, its actually not trash.
you have very low standards if 3.5/10 isnt trash lmao

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FatalAccident
09/26/21 4:57:00 PM
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could be worse man

you could be listening to yeezus

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TheSlinja
09/26/21 4:58:27 PM
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FatalAccident posted...
could be worse man

you could be listening to yeezus
hey guilt trip is better than anything on donda
the rest? you might be right

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ReturnOfFa
09/26/21 6:06:41 PM
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Mead posted...
do you think Im wrong about that?
Yes. I still understand your intent, and it's well intentioned though.There are plenty of bipolar folks that acknowledge their condition and don't project in extremely narcissistic ways. I know this is definitely on the verge of policing the behaviour of bipolar individuals, so yes, criticism does need to be measured and not ableist. Calling Kanye crazy or psycho is not fair or kind. However, he is a very rich man who does not put very much effort into understanding the perspective of others. Mental illness doesn't completely shield someone from criticism.

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Krazy_Kirby
09/26/21 7:31:31 PM
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rap and anything like it is pure garbage
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Riptor
09/26/21 7:41:50 PM
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TheSlinja posted...
its got 10 good songs on it...

10?! There's 5 DECENT songs on there, tops.


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DirtBasedSoap
09/26/21 7:47:59 PM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
rap and anything like it is pure garbage
agreed. these people could use some more Toby Keith in their lives

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ReturnOfFa
09/26/21 8:05:36 PM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
rap and anything like it is pure garbage
garbage POV

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DirtBasedSoap
09/26/21 8:07:04 PM
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ReturnOfFa posted...
garbage POV
you need Jesus and tony Keith buddy

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ReturnOfFa
09/26/21 8:56:39 PM
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DirtBasedSoap posted...
you need Jesus and tony Keith buddy
gobbless!!!!

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Metalsonic66
09/26/21 9:03:54 PM
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Something something gay fish

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Mead
09/26/21 9:06:18 PM
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ReturnOfFa posted...
Yes. I still understand your intent, and it's well intentioned though.There are plenty of bipolar folks that acknowledge their condition and don't project in extremely narcissistic ways. I know this is definitely on the verge of policing the behaviour of bipolar individuals, so yes, criticism does need to be measured and not ableist. Calling Kanye crazy or psycho is not fair or kind. However, he is a very rich man who does not put very much effort into understanding the perspective of others. Mental illness doesn't completely shield someone from criticism.

I guess I dont know very much about the guy aside from a few headlines

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ReturnOfFa
09/26/21 9:10:40 PM
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Mead posted...
I guess I dont know very much about the guy aside from a few headlines
https://youtu.be/IeA7lvC1ego

I still do have a lot of sympathy for him, I don't mean to diminish that. I think there are too many people enabling him. Perhaps I'm too hard on him, it's his right to do his art in his own way.

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FatalAccident
09/27/21 1:47:44 AM
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Riptor posted...
10?! There's 5 DECENT songs on there, tops.
Off the grid
hurricane
praise god
ok ok
Junya
Heaven and hell
tell the vision
Jesus lord

the pop smoke one could have been better though. And longer than 90 seconds lol

edit: as I say that I just realise its more of a snippet from an actual 3 min song lol

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TheSlinja
09/27/21 9:44:55 AM
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my list is
Jail
off the grid
hurricane (even tho its worse than all the leaks)
praise god
okok pt2
heaven and hell
junya pt2
keep my spirit alive
pure souls
Jesus lord pt2 (that speech at the end is awful tho)

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Revelation34
09/27/21 10:11:50 AM
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Anything that has a religious name in the title sounds like it would be awful.
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TheSlinja
09/27/21 10:43:33 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
Anything that has a religious name in the title sounds like it would be awful.
praise god has travis scott and playboi carti on it lmao
keep my spirit alive has a fire as westside gunn verse
jesus lord has as usual a ridiculous jay electronica verse but the chorus is a lil rough even though the beat slaps

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FatalAccident
09/27/21 2:43:33 PM
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TheSlinja posted...
my list is
Jail
off the grid
hurricane (even tho its worse than all the leaks)
praise god
okok pt2
heaven and hell
junya pt2
keep my spirit alive
pure souls
Jesus lord pt2 (that speech at the end is awful tho)

wow no love for tell the vision?

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ReturnOfFa
09/27/21 3:29:53 PM
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TheSlinja posted...
praise god has travis scott and playboi carti on it lmao
keep my spirit alive has a fire as westside gunn verse
jesus lord has as usual a ridiculous jay electronica verse but the chorus is a lil rough even though the beat slaps
that's supposed to impress me? lol

the vibe is good (obvious good production) on some Kanye tracks but I literally don't give a flying shit about the lyrical content and it puts me off. plus there's still more impressive production like MadLib. I don't wanna hear some rich religious guy. I wanna hear some down and dirty real shit.

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TheSlinja
09/27/21 7:47:31 PM
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FatalAccident posted...
wow no love for tell the vision?
why would I love the continued milking of a pop smoke? its not a good tribute its a crusty ass verse that smoke never would have wanted out in that form (and also was already used in a posthumous album so no point for that) on a weak ass beat
there is nothing there to like imo

ReturnOfFa posted...
that's supposed to impress me? lol
this was specifically aimed at the guy skeptical about the religiously named tracks of which certain ones are actually good lol. i was never trying to impress you friendo

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FatalAccident
09/28/21 4:53:16 AM
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TheSlinja posted...
why would I love the continued milking of a pop smoke? its not a good tribute its a crusty ass verse that smoke never would have wanted out in that form (and also was already used in a posthumous album so no point for that) on a weak ass beat
there is nothing there to like imo

While I dont disagree with the sentiment, the beat on the donda version is actually better than on the original lol

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