Current Events > Who is more PRIVILEGED?? White men or white women?

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Damn_Underscore
09/24/21 1:06:30 PM
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?????


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CommonStar
09/24/21 1:07:37 PM
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Who still holds more power?
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dj1200
09/24/21 6:56:23 PM
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men of course

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LeoRavus
09/24/21 6:57:39 PM
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I wish I was a white woman. I'd find me a rich old man and shop and play games all day long

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SSJPurple
09/24/21 6:57:40 PM
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Christians are the most privileged group in America


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Wii_Shaker
09/24/21 6:58:16 PM
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White men are going to say white women. Everybody else is going to say white men.

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Arcanine2009
09/24/21 7:04:21 PM
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white men in the corps
white women in the courts

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Guide
09/24/21 7:04:44 PM
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Wii_Shaker posted...
White men are going to say white women. Everybody else is going to say white men.

not fair to a lot of intelligent white men

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EbonTitanium
09/24/21 7:07:37 PM
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Depends on the privilege in play.

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deoxxys
09/24/21 7:15:07 PM
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I'm a white man (well technically half but no one sees my Puerto Rican side) and I'd rather be a white woman all day. I could just say the word sex and men would come running.

Being white has not got me any position of power or any position of wealth. I think what people don't understand is well yes white men holds some of the best positions in the USA, I think that's just a benefit of being the majority, basically it just comes down to a numbers game.

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Wii_Shaker
09/24/21 7:15:32 PM
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Guide posted...
not fair to a lot of intelligent white men
Agree. With all generalizations some people are going to be marginalized.

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NeoShadowhen
09/24/21 7:44:29 PM
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Privilege is an extremely broad concept. Wed have to codify all aspects of it, give each one relative weight, and determine where each gender stands. Fuck all that.
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Simp
09/24/21 7:58:28 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqAJLh9wuZ0

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sevihaimerej
09/24/21 8:04:08 PM
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Depends which one is more attractive
As a group white women, I've been told their tears have the power to create and destroy worlds...if I collect enough, I will become a GOD

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Looked gf
09/24/21 8:04:36 PM
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Wii_Shaker posted...
White men are going to say white women. Everybody else is going to say white men.


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Sada_Pop
09/24/21 8:05:36 PM
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Wii_Shaker posted...
White men are going to say white women. Everybody else is going to say white men.
Yup

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fohstick
09/24/21 8:07:01 PM
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what privileges don't white women have?
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NeoShadowhen
09/24/21 8:09:31 PM
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fohstick posted...
what privileges don't white women have?

I doubt all of us would even be able to agree on a definition of the word privilege.
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Trumble
09/24/21 8:12:17 PM
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deoxxys posted...
Being white has not got me any position of power or any position of wealth. I think what people don't understand is well yes white men holds some of the best positions in the USA, I think that's just a benefit of being the majority, basically it just comes down to a numbers game.

It's absolutely fair to say that, at least historically, there have been barriers to non-whites attaining positions of power.

However, the VAST fucking majority of white people have a snowball's chance in hell of ever getting into those same positions of power either. We're just the same color as people who do. And that's why it's blatantly insulting and racist when people assume we're "better off" just because of it. No, white people aren't privileged; rich people from political / corporate dynasties are better off. Yes, most of them happen to be white; but that doesn't change shit about the fact that most white people are not from such backgrounds.

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Simp
09/24/21 8:16:17 PM
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NeoShadowhen posted...
I doubt all of us would even be able to agree on a definition of the word privilege.
It's like when you reflect on how your life isn't perfect and think 'but it would have been if I were ___'. That's what privilege is on CE. That damn underscore. Fill it with anything you're envious of and make it whatever you want it to be.

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Nukazie
09/24/21 8:17:40 PM
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white old men

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Solar_Crimson
09/24/21 8:22:54 PM
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Wii_Shaker posted...
White men are going to say white women. Everybody else is going to say white men.
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Esrac
09/24/21 8:23:40 PM
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Ask Norah Vincent.
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shayersrevenge
09/24/21 8:30:18 PM
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Trumble posted...
It's absolutely fair to say that, at least historically, there have been barriers to non-whites attaining positions of power.

However, the VAST fucking majority of white people have a snowball's chance in hell of ever getting into those same positions of power either. We're just the same color as people who do. And that's why it's blatantly insulting and racist when people assume we're "better off" just because of it. No, white people aren't privileged; rich people from political / corporate dynasties are better off. Yes, most of them happen to be white; but that doesn't change shit about the fact that most white people are not from such backgrounds.

Privilege is so much more than ease of attaining positions of power.

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cuttin_in_farm
09/24/21 8:33:31 PM
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deoxxys posted...
and I'd rather be a white woman all day. I could just say the word sex and men would come running.

Things a dude says.

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Trumble
09/24/21 8:37:38 PM
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shayersrevenge posted...
Privilege is so much more than ease of attaining positions of power.

Sure, but the post I was replying to was talking about positions of power. And the general concept of what I was saying extends to basically everything else covered by that term too. Even if you can come up with some minor things where there really is a gap, that gap is NOTHING compared to the gap between average whites and the actually-privileged crowd. Like, the orders of magnitude of difference would itself have to be measured as an order of magnitude.

So once again. Stop fucking assuming we all have the same power, wealth, privilege, whatever other factor you want to focus on and/or call it, as other people who literally the ONLY thing we have in common with is our fucking skin color. That's textbook racism, and is no different whatsoever from something like "you're the same color as a thief I encountered once, you must be a thief too".

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sevihaimerej
09/24/21 8:40:30 PM
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shayersrevenge posted...
Privilege is so much more than ease of attaining positions of power.
Elaborate please.

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Tryin2GetDaPipe
09/24/21 8:40:59 PM
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Men are such hornballs that they think women are more privileged in life just because they have more sex while ignoring all the other bullshit that they go through. Holy shit lol

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LeoRavus
09/24/21 8:47:52 PM
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ImAMarvel posted...
You're not wrong there but women still get treated like shit, regularly sexually harassed, not taken as seriously in the workplace, and so on.

I've been sexually harassed by women at every job I've had. And never taken seriously.

It seems women think it's ok to flip the script without consequences (even the fat ugly ones think we'll go for it), where men are now terrified to harass women after all the lawsuits.

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Sada_Pop
09/24/21 9:12:29 PM
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Trumble posted...
So once again. Stop fucking assuming we all have the same power, wealth, privilege, whatever other factor you want to focus on and/or call it, as other people who literally the ONLY thing we have in common with is our fucking skin color.

That's the point though. Sure there's levels to the privilege.

The skin color is largely the privilege in itself.

Don't have to worry about being racially profiled. Don't have to worry about being accosted by police. Don't have to worry about being passed over for business loans, jobs, mortgages, and a thousand other different things because of your name, culture, and skin tone.

The skin color is surely an advantage but much more so is that the skin color affords a lack of a disadvantage.


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Trumble
09/24/21 9:31:51 PM
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Sada_Pop posted...
Don't have to worry about being passed over for business loans, jobs, mortgages, and a thousand other different things because of your name, culture, and skin tone.

Yeah, dude, the reality is that all of this happens to white people too if they don't come from the aforementioned privileged backgrounds.

Again, "most people who do get it are white" is not the same as "most white people do get it". Most of us are in no better a position than an average person of any other color (heck, in some cases possibly even worse due to targetted support for other groups that we get no equivalent to - but again, here, this too falls into the "very, very minor gap compared to the gap between us and elites" territory); and the fact that a disproportionate amount of elites are the same color as us doesn't change that.

And once again, it is blatantly racist for you to insinuate that it does.

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Payzmaykr
09/24/21 9:32:40 PM
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Easily women.

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Sada_Pop
09/24/21 9:42:03 PM
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Ok dude lol. Love how you took out the other parts where privilege comes into play. Almost as if it, Idk, proves my point.

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sevihaimerej
09/24/21 10:02:16 PM
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Trumble posted...
Yeah, dude, the reality is that all of this happens to white people too if they don't come from the aforementioned privileged backgrounds.

Again, "most people who do get it are white" is not the same as "most white people do get it". Most of us are in no better a position than an average person of any other color (heck, in some cases possibly even worse due to targetted support for other groups that we get no equivalent to - but again, here, this too falls into the "very, very minor gap compared to the gap between us and elites" territory); and the fact that a disproportionate amount of elites are the same color as us doesn't change that.

And once again, it is blatantly racist for you to insinuate that it does.
In fact, those very same impoverished white people are often deceived into voting against their own interests. Even just looking "lower class" (which often refers to any emulation of hip hop culture but can just as easily be put in the trailer park meth head category) or a bit too emo ( white dude wearing all black, wearing a black trenchcoat) will get a white person followed by police/security, I guess it's just a white thing and they'll never understand ()!

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Conker
09/24/21 10:06:45 PM
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LeoRavus posted...
I wish I was a white woman. I'd find me a rich old man and shop and play games all day long

You didnt specify what race for the rich old man, but this would seem to lean more towards the white men response are more privileged.

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Graycap
09/24/21 10:09:18 PM
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Rich white men > white women > broke white men.
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Extreme_light
09/24/21 10:12:58 PM
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Looked gf
09/24/21 10:14:46 PM
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Privilege isnt just about wealth CE smfh

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QueenCarly
09/24/21 10:15:36 PM
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Fucking hilarious that women are winning

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unnamedsoldier
09/24/21 10:16:04 PM
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It's definitely women
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Noumena
09/24/21 10:17:32 PM
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Both these mfs usually come with the other version anyway
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Lost_All_Senses
09/24/21 10:18:01 PM
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Whichever one was born into a loving family with money, I guess.

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09/24/21 10:18:58 PM
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Graycap
09/24/21 10:22:39 PM
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Looked gf posted...
Privilege isnt just about wealth CE smfh

Well we can extend to other traits as well.

Hot charming dude > woman > ugly awkward dude.

Tall dude > woman > short dude.

Strong dude > woman > weak dude.

Men are more empowered to achieve things and assume authority than women, hence patriarchy and male privilege, but if they fail to do so they're tossed aside.

CE has a higher proportion of maladjusts than average so the poll reflects that perspective.
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Noumena
09/24/21 10:22:42 PM
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Noumena posted...
Both these mfs usually come with the other version anyway

BTW I just mean couples are more privileged than single people, and the different genders usually have different obligations wrt being in couples
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TerraSeeker
09/24/21 10:24:10 PM
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Women they have very clear societal privileges. If a couple gets divorced, the woman will be treated with extreme favor. A lot of children have been screwed out seeing their fathers this way and stuck living with an incapable mother.

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