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CableZL
09/15/21 12:51:36 PM
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MaddenDude-- posted...
This is the myth I'm trying to debunk. Its really not that hard.

I think you're refusing to consider anything but your own circumstances when you say this.

Moving is made more difficult by:
  • Financial constraints
  • Career constraints
  • Family


Financial:
Moving is expensive. Just me moving from Austin, TX to San Antonio, TX cost about $1,000. When I was about to move from Austin, TX to Nashville, TN, it was going to cost multiple thousands of dollars to move. The UHaul alone was multiple thousands of dollars. I was fortunate to have the financial means to do it, but a lot of people don't.

Career:
If you have your career going, you often don't want to "just move." I don't want to go somewhere else and have to start over in tenure again, start over at a company that I probably won't like as much, possibly have to switch careers because of a lack of similar opportunity in another area, etc.

Family:
If you have a significant other, then moving is not just your decision. Your partner also has to move, find work, etc. If you have kids, you have to also spend time looking into schools and things for them in the area of where you're going to live. You have to consider how they're going to get to/from school, what activities they may want to participate in in the area, consider the neighborhood, etc.

Sure, if you have little to nothing that ties you to where you live and few belongings you need to bring with you, it's easier. The more roots you have in the ground, the harder it is to pick up and move somewhere else.

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WashYourHands
09/15/21 12:51:55 PM
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Why didnt people move to Canada when trump was elected?

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sondast
09/15/21 12:54:08 PM
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MaddenDude-- posted...



You don't have to buy a house to move. I did a 2 min search for LV - you can rent a decent apartment for <600 per month.
I live in the Midwest, and the only apartment I found for $600 is a crappy studio in the ghetto. Also, if I did live there, my car insurance alone would triple, so there are many things to consider when moving.

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Iodine
09/15/21 12:57:53 PM
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Great cost of living.

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CableZL
09/15/21 12:58:14 PM
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And yeah, an apartment for <$600/month in Austin, TX or San Antonio, TX is going to be crappy at best.

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CoorsLight
09/15/21 12:59:45 PM
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Njolk posted...
It's true it is that easy to move, especially if you have a car

Go find a cheap place to rent with cool roommates, accept a fun job offer... It's that simple. I lived all over in my 20s with $2k in my bank account. The only cost is driving there...

It's only hard when you own a ton of bullshit, as most Americans do

I don't disagree that people own a ton of "bullshit", but most of the stuff that makes moving hard is furniture. It's hard to "just drive there" in your regular car with furniture. Sure you can find furnished apartments but they're far less common than empty ones, and most people don't like the idea of sleeping in a bed that's been through god knows what
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CableZL
09/15/21 1:02:28 PM
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Yeah, having a car means nothing when you have large furniture items that need to be moved.

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SoggyBottomBoy
09/15/21 1:03:06 PM
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Because Im stuck at uni and trying to finish my degree as fast as possible. I didnt come here for the lack of culture.

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CoorsLight
09/15/21 1:04:13 PM
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If you already own furniture that's also a dumb thing to get rid of unless you're super committed to the nomad lifestyle, or if it's all shitty goodwill stuff that you would have replaced otherwise. If you're in your early 20s that lifestyle may be appealing but people don't want to live like that as they get older
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Kanaya413
09/15/21 1:17:01 PM
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No one bothers us here and my state voted Democrat this time anyway
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Dathrowed1
09/15/21 1:18:10 PM
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ITT the only thing you need to know about someone is who they voted for

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Prestoff
09/15/21 1:26:27 PM
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This was the same thing questioned when ISP simps said to move to a another place if you want better internet.

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GameofWheels
09/15/21 1:41:34 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Bitch, I'm broke.


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MajesticFerret
09/15/21 2:29:48 PM
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Politics be damned, I'm starting to learn that Southern US is probably the best part of the US.

New Orleans/Baton Rouge, Atlanta, Nashville, Houston/Dallas/Austin/San Antonio, Miami/Tampa, Phoenix >>> NYC, LA, SF, Chicago, Portland, Seattle, DC, Denver, etc.

San Diego is lit though, it's low key the best city in CA, only problem is high paying jobs there are scarce.

-wayyyy more affordable. Cost of living to income ratio is far better for most of these cities.
-weather is plenty good. In fact, outside of San Diego and LA, I'd argue pretty much any of the above cities have better weather than their overrated Northern contemporaries. Hell, even CA weather is straight up overrated (San Francisco is cold af in the summer and LA can be chilly on summer night, which can be a vibe, but can be a pain in the ass if you don't carry around a light jacket in the middle of summer). Every where else is cold af in the winter and fall in exchange for mild summers, and even then, some of there summers can still get pretty hot so you're not getting much value.
-Night life is actually better in a lot of these cities than a lot of the more overrated tourist traps. New Orleans and Nashville in particular are much better than LA and NYC in terms of bar hopping, clubbing, and live music as those cities are so spread out, you'll need to get a taxi if you want to go to different areas to party, meanwhile Nashville and New Orleans have literally miles upon miles of bars and restaurants all in the same area so everything is walking distance.
-women are just as hot and way more approachable. Clout and social status isn't as important as it is in places like LA, SF, and NYC in particular. Again, I visited Nashville recently and was blown away by how many down to earth absolute stunner women their were. Not that you can't find some stunners in LA or NYC, but good luck on them being approachable or down to earth...
-people are also nicer and more approachable in general imo.
-Southern cities actually do something about it's homeless problem and don't let them walk all over tax paying citizens.
-more personality. LA's personality is basically "rich people living in the mountains surrounded by squalor", SF has some personality, I'll admit, even if that personality is shit, same with NYC, meanwhile places like New Orleans, Nashville, San Antonio, Austin have a lot of historic buildings that they renovate into fun musical venues, restaurants, bars, etc. and it just adds a unique vibe to the city.

If you care so much about politics you'd rather move to a cold, shitty, overpriced, stuck up city just so you can be in an echo chamber, that makes you pretty sad as a person IMO.

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CleoDookieslide
09/15/21 2:30:19 PM
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The south isn't a cesspool. The south rocks. Speaking of cesspools, aren't there actual states that have actual poop on their actual sidewalks... something they are kinda known for?
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Axiom
09/15/21 2:36:27 PM
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CleoDookieslide posted...
Speaking of cesspools, aren't there actual states that have actual poop on their actual sidewalks... something they are kinda known for?
Well yeah but that's why TC is talking about moving away from Tennessee
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CleoDookieslide
09/15/21 2:38:28 PM
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Axiom posted...
Well yeah but that's why TC is talking about moving away from Tennessee

Dude, California is notorious for having poop and needles everywhere. The south has no equivalent to that
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Solid Snake07
09/15/21 2:41:04 PM
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Because most of my family lives here and it's really not that big of a deal unless you're the type of person who can't get through life without bringing up politics constantly

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_MorningStar
09/15/21 2:41:25 PM
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Because my nephew is here. I could never move far enough away that it wouldn't be a nightmare to be able to see him.

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MaddenDude--
09/15/21 3:06:15 PM
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Did someone seriously say nightlife in new orleans is better than new york? lmfao, the fuck? new orleans is literally all trash. New york is one of the best nightlifes in the world.

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Tyranthraxus
09/15/21 3:07:29 PM
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MaddenDude-- posted...
Did someone seriously say nightlife in new orleans is better than new york? lmfao, the fuck? new orleans is literally all trash. New york is one of the best nightlifes in the world.
Nah man. Lived in NYC for 14 years and the night life is dead now compared to what it used to be. French Quarter alone shits on NYC.

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MaddenDude--
09/15/21 3:08:39 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Nah man. Lived in NYC for 14 years and the night life is dead now compared to what it used to be. French Quarter alone shits on NYC.

I've lived right across the river in Bloomfield and I've lived in Louisiana. New Orleans is garbage, not to mention a high risk of getting shot on any given night. The streets and people literally smell.

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happibivouac
09/15/21 3:10:07 PM
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downtown NOLA reeks of piss

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Tyranthraxus
09/15/21 3:14:31 PM
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MaddenDude-- posted...
The streets and people literally smell.

You can say this about literally any city.

MaddenDude-- posted...
high risk of getting shot on any given night

Cursory Google research suggests NYC has roughly triple the shootings as NOLA

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Zodd3224
09/15/21 3:18:47 PM
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16-BITTER posted...
Trump supporters



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Hornswoggled
09/15/21 4:11:35 PM
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The good thing about being antisocial and barely ever leaving the house is that I can live almost anywhere and be comfortable.
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Taharqa_
09/15/21 4:21:15 PM
#79:


pegusus123456 posted...
Bitch, I'm broke.

This. Cost of living is just too high on the West and East Coast.

Also, Texas and Louisiana are my homes. 95 percent of my family is in SE Texas and southern Louisiana.

Houston, Austin, Dallas, San Antonio are good places to live.

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MajesticFerret
09/15/21 4:21:28 PM
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MaddenDude-- posted...
Did someone seriously say nightlife in new orleans is better than new york? lmfao, the fuck? new orleans is literally all trash. New york is one of the best nightlifes in the world.

Sure, let's compare:

-Everything in NOLA is walking distance. Everything in NYC is spread out as all hell. You have to practically hop in a taxi and pay an exorbant fee to just to hop to bar or club hop...fuck that noise.
-You know what, let's double dip on this because NYC just sucks that much. NOLA has minimal traffic and isn't spread out so you can probably get a reasonably affordable Uber to it's nightlife district and back while a lot of NYers have to take a subway to get too and from the nightlife, which burns up valueable time partying and is just an annoying hastle in general.
-You need to be a literal millionaire to own property near anyhalf decent nightlife district in NYC or pay an arm and a leg in rent. You can own property like 15mins from French Quarter for like $300k.
-NYC natives (at least in Manhatten) are some of the most stuck up chicks I've ever met and I'm actually pretty damn solid with women and have literally been all over the planet...NYC probably makes my top 5 list for most stuck up women globally, and I have quite the sample size in cities. You probably have better chances hooking up with a tourist (which I've done on multiple occasions in NYC) than an actual native Manhattener as most of them are quite rude and stuck up. NOLA and Louisiana chicks are way more laid back and easy.
-affordable beers and cocktails vs. everything is $14+ for a basic ass mixed drink
-French Quarter actually has personality. Live music, historic buildings, a mix of bars, clubs, and live music venues. NYC's nightlife is spread out to kingdom come so even if it does have a badass divebar, comedy club, etc., it doesn't have them all in one spot so if you see a comedy show but want to a specific club or bar, unless you're ready to get raped by a taxi...you fucked. Instead, you have mostly bouge cookie cutter cocktail lounges in random ass spots, and you'll have to go out of your way to go to a divebar or the only people that will frequent it are the locales because of how much of a pain it is the spontaneously go off the beaten path in the city.

So yeah, NOLA nightlife >>> NYC. London and Paris are also more cities "famous for nightlife" where it absolute garbage and probably is shittier than most college towns tbh.

But then again, if you consider NOLA "trashy" you probably enjoy pretensious bullshit like taking a 40 min subway ride one way just to go to bars/clubs or have to drop like $80 in taxi expenses just to go to massively pretensious overpriced bars where the girls probably aren't going to give you the time of day anyways...

Oh, and this isn't even taking into account how bad Covid killed the scene while Southern States are POPPING rn.

happibivouac posted...
downtown NOLA reeks of piss

I think you're thinking of SF and LA. NOLA was fairly piss and poop free last time I went.

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Gwynevere
09/15/21 4:22:21 PM
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MaddenDude-- posted...
At 40 hours per week, thats plenty of time to do some schooling on the side
Lmaooo if I didn't know this was bullshit already

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VGAddict90
09/15/21 4:27:52 PM
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I stayed in Las Vegas for a couple of days for my sister's wedding.

You couldn't PAY me to go back to Las Vegas, much less live there.
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