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Geiki Ganger
09/11/21 5:03:43 PM
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Erasing famous actors and actresses from history.

Banning English from being taught/tested in elementary school.

Claiming countries like Taiwan and Hong Kong to be a part of them.

Yet I see almost no news articles in Western mainstream media. Guess there isn't a single company that wants to upset China and affect its bottom-line?

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Zikten
09/11/21 5:05:26 PM
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China thinks its going to be the new top dog nation before the end of this century. Their goal is to replace America
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Trumble
09/11/21 5:05:36 PM
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Geiki Ganger posted...
Claiming countries like Taiwan and Hong Kong to be a part of them.

Hong Kong is a part of China. It's meant to have a very strong degree of autonomy from the mainland, but no one disputes that they're ultimately part of the same country.

Taiwan on the other hand is 100% its own country, regardless of what China says.

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Geiki Ganger
09/11/21 5:09:04 PM
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Trumble posted...
Hong Kong is a part of China. It's meant to have a very strong degree of autonomy from the mainland, but no one disputes that they're ultimately part of the same country.

Oh so you're one of them.

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yusiko
09/11/21 5:12:49 PM
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Banning effeminate men


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ModLogic
09/11/21 5:20:09 PM
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Geiki Ganger posted...
Oh so you're one of them.
https://youtu.be/lSNNVMVz62c

can you translate this clip or id the movie?

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Ricemills
09/12/21 10:47:54 AM
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Geiki Ganger posted...
Oh so you're one of them.

wut.
dude, know your wars. HK were already rejoined china at 1997.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handover_of_Hong_Kong

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ssjevot
09/12/21 10:58:37 AM
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Geiki Ganger posted...
Erasing famous actors and actresses from history.

Banning English from being taught/tested in elementary school.

Claiming countries like Taiwan and Hong Kong to be a part of them.

Yet I see almost no news articles in Western mainstream media. Guess there isn't a single company that wants to upset China and affect its bottom-line?

That's not really new or limited to actors. All information is controlled by the state there. Tiananmen Square Massacre has been erased from history for decades there.

This isn't true. They cracked down on foreign teachers at all levels and private tutoring for all subjects. There is also some reduction in English education at schools.

They have been claiming Taiwan forever, that isn't new. Hong Kong was transferred from the UK to China, it was never another country. The problem was it was promised at least 50 years of autonomy and didn't even make it halfway there before they just decided to step in and run it themselves and crackdown on the rights and freedoms of Hong Kongers.

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Spiderman23JII
09/12/21 11:00:04 AM
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they shaping up to take over this bitch

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Squall28
09/12/21 11:03:18 AM
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ModLogic posted...
https://youtu.be/lSNNVMVz62c

can you translate this clip or id the movie?

The couple that got kicked out was trying to act superior by being "westernized," and the other people flipped out on them for not having Chinese pride. Stupidity from both sides tbh.

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Geiki Ganger
09/12/21 11:47:12 AM
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ssjevot posted...
That's not really new or limited to actors. All information is controlled by the state there. Tiananmen Square Massacre has been erased from history for decades there.

This isn't true. They cracked down on foreign teachers at all levels and private tutoring for all subjects. There is also some reduction in English education at schools.

They have been claiming Taiwan forever, that isn't new. Hong Kong was transferred from the UK to China, it was never another country. The problem was it was promised at least 50 years of autonomy and didn't even make it halfway there before they just decided to step in and run it themselves and crackdown on the rights and freedoms of Hong Kongers.

When are you getting your 50 cents?

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Kitt
09/12/21 11:52:42 AM
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Geiki Ganger posted...
When are you getting your 50 cents?
So instead of actually engaging with with him this is how you chose to reply?

Not sure why I expected more from a serial shitposter.

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Geiki Ganger
09/12/21 11:53:34 AM
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Kitt posted...
So instead of actually engaging with with him this is how you chose to reply?

Not sure why I expected more from a serial shitposter.

I don't engage with terrorists.

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ssjevot
09/12/21 11:56:10 AM
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Geiki Ganger posted...
When are you getting your 50 cents?

You realize Wumao would strongly disagree with what I posted right since it explicitly paints those things as negative? I am no fan of the Chinese government.

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Kaldrenthebold
09/12/21 11:58:35 AM
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Did you like just find out about China or something TC? This is all old news

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Collat
09/12/21 12:00:54 PM
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Geiki Ganger posted...
Erasing famous actors and actresses from history.

Banning English from being taught/tested in elementary school.

Claiming countries like Taiwan and Hong Kong to be a part of them.

Missed the Uighur genocide, which is worse than all of them.
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Geiki Ganger
09/12/21 12:00:57 PM
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ssjevot posted...
I am no fan of the Chinese government.

Okay I'll play.

  1. Erasing Zhao Wei and sending out ultimatums to all celebrities with a foreign passport IS new and unprecedented.
  2. Cracking down on education doesn't sound crazy to you? As for reducing English, let me refer you to this NYT article: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/09/business/china-english.html
  3. They have escalated political pressure on Taiwan to the point where war appears imminent to those living on the island (of course Western media has no clue). Saying HK was handed over in 1997 misses the entire point of the riot from 2019. 50 years was economic and political was guaranteed, yet the CCP pretty much reneged completely on that promise.

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Geiki Ganger
09/12/21 12:01:47 PM
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Collat posted...
Missed the Uighur genocide, which is worse than all of them.

This is literally the only one being reported and spread by the Western media. And ironically the one that's least likely to be true.

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TheRadiant
09/12/21 12:02:33 PM
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I mean you left out the genocide which feels like the worst thing. Plus their increasing nationalism

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Shezarr
09/12/21 12:02:36 PM
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Geiki Ganger posted...
This is literally the only one being reported and spread by the Western media. And ironically the one that's least likely to be true.
LMAO so is this topic all just a covert way to slip in some genocide denial behind a veneer of deniability or what

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What_
09/12/21 12:02:58 PM
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Whos crazier: China or Republicans?
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Collat
09/12/21 12:03:44 PM
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Geiki Ganger posted...
And ironically the one that's least likely to be true.
Well that's a twist I didn't expect from this topic.
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ssjevot
09/12/21 12:05:49 PM
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None of these things are new. They're continuations of their policy. The CCP controls information, claims Taiwan, and doesn't tolerate civil rights or democracy movements. It's weird to act like this is all new. If anything there was a period of relative relaxation prior to Xi and this is more a return to the norm. You should read about things like the Tiananmen Square Massacre, Taiwan Straight Crisis, and Cultural Revolution if you think things are getting crazy now. This is far from the craziest things have been in China and is certainly not new. This is just how the government works there and people didn't pay attention or care until recently. Probably because of escalating tensions between governments and China and companies kowtowing China in a misguided attempt for market access. You're just starting to notice these things now.

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ssjevot
09/12/21 12:08:36 PM
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ssjevot posted...
The problem was it was promised at least 50 years of autonomy and didn't even make it halfway there before they just decided to step in and run it themselves and crackdown on the rights and freedoms of Hong Kongers.

Geiki Ganger posted...
Saying HK was handed over in 1997 misses the entire point of the riot from 2019. 50 years was economic and political was guaranteed, yet the CCP pretty much reneged completely on that promise.

Also you didn't read my post. That's kind of a bad way to respond. You should read someone's post before responding.

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Mist_Turnips
09/12/21 12:11:21 PM
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TC, please stahp.
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hockeybub89
09/12/21 12:12:45 PM
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China should be stripped of HK and Xi should be deposed.

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Kingbuffet
09/12/21 12:15:48 PM
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Okay.

How do you think China could change Texas law about abortion? Thats the level of interference you want us to have on China. Its quite ridiculous but when you flip things around its not as easy you think. You know youre not in kindergarten anymore
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ScazarMeltex
09/12/21 12:16:59 PM
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Geiki Ganger posted...
Erasing famous actors and actresses from history.

Banning English from being taught/tested in elementary school.

Claiming countries like Taiwan and Hong Kong to be a part of them.

Yet I see almost no news articles in Western mainstream media. Guess there isn't a single company that wants to upset China and affect its bottom-line?
Hong Kong is part of China. I don't know what ever gave you the impression otherwise. Taiwan has been claimed since the Kuomintang government fled there in the wake of it's loss of the mainland during the civil war. I'm going to guess you don't really know shit about much of anything.
And yeah, corporatization of media and it's endless pursuit of profit is in fact a problem. Capitalists will do anything that defends their bottom line.

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sabrestorm
09/12/21 12:20:08 PM
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They are going crazy for sure but I take exception to teaching English, that is something they should not be required to do

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sabrestorm
09/12/21 12:23:50 PM
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Trumble posted...
Hong Kong is a part of China. It's meant to have a very strong degree of autonomy from the mainland, but no one disputes that they're ultimately part of the same country.

Taiwan on the other hand is 100% its own country, regardless of what China says.
an area cant just say they are there own country they either need to be granted freedom from the country that owns them or fight for independence, same with Taiwan


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Shezarr
09/12/21 12:30:07 PM
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Shut the fuck up skermac

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TrowaBarton7
09/12/21 9:08:42 PM
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China to provide Afghanistan with $31 million worth of food and Covid vaccines

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/09/asia/china-vaccines-aid-afghanistan-intl-hnk/index.html

China is donating food and medical supplies to poor, desperate war torn Afghans.

If you think that China is only capable of generating negative headlines, then you've fallen for right wing conservative propaganda.

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Shablagoo
09/12/21 9:17:09 PM
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Geiki Ganger posted...
Yet I see almost no news articles in Western mainstream media.

then where did you get your information from? Got your very own privately-funded team of international investigators or something?

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Shezarr
09/12/21 9:17:51 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
then where did you get your information from? Got your very own privately-funded team of international investigators or something?
Hey hey, you both agree on your belief in the nonexistence of China's most serious atrocity, you should be pals

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CADE FOSTER
09/12/21 9:20:09 PM
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TrowaBarton7 posted...
China to provide Afghanistan with $31 million worth of food and Covid vaccines

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/09/asia/china-vaccines-aid-afghanistan-intl-hnk/index.html

China is donating food and medical supplies to poor, desperate war torn Afghans.

If you think that China is only capable of generating negative headlines, then you've fallen for right wing conservative propaganda.
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Nukazie
09/12/21 9:22:07 PM
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i dont want to get warned again for saying something about china

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lordofmud
09/12/21 9:31:09 PM
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If you don't believe that the Chinese government is dedicated to global hegemony you need to get educated fast.

But let's be honest China has always been able to play the long game. You don't see Americans screaming to their congressman about china. No, you see the average overweight American yelling about abortion or Mexicans and continuing to buy their microwaves, coffee makers, and plastic ware from China. I guarantee that the average Chinese isn't talking about anything like that. Because the government decides what the issues should be.

The only thing that stops China from just beginning to conquer is the fact that they share an 8000 mile border with a country that hates the fuck out of them and would GLADLY use atomics if they thought they could get away with it.

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Shezarr
09/12/21 9:37:13 PM
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Nukazie posted...
i dont want to get warned again for saying something about china
Don't worry, your creepy fucking post in skermac's topic will hopefully get you there.

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dave_is_slick
09/12/21 9:45:41 PM
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Geiki Ganger posted...
I don't engage with terrorists.
Who the fuck is he terrorizing??

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09/12/21 10:17:48 PM
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TrowaBarton7 posted...
If you think that China is only capable of generating negative headlines, then you've fallen for right wing conservative propaganda.
Disliking the CCP while they are actively committing genocide is not a viewpoint exclusive to conservatives, but nice try.

Not really.
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MushroomMuncher
09/12/21 10:18:06 PM
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These days?

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YookaLaylee
09/12/21 10:21:49 PM
#42:


Zikten posted...
China thinks its going to be the new top dog nation before the end of this century. Their goal is to replace America

They will
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TrowaBarton7
09/12/21 10:35:20 PM
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Collat posted...
Disliking the CCP

I bet you also believe that Iraq has WMDs.

Westerners are freely able to travel to Xinjiang, talk with local Uyghurs, and film their experience. It looks way more normal and peaceful than Palestine, Syria, or Afghanistan.

https://youtu.be/xcMZ34ifDOo
https://youtu.be/EopbwS97Whc

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SauI_Goodman
09/12/21 10:36:37 PM
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Well honestly hk is china. Its just that they had a contract with the uk to under uk control forna certain period of time. China wants to break that contract early.

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Shezarr
09/12/21 10:37:07 PM
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Collat posted...
Disliking the CCP while they are actively committing genocide is not a viewpoint exclusive to conservatives, but nice try.

Not really.
Trowas the biggest CCP shill here aside from Shab, or on that level. Hes frequently denied the genocide too

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Jiek_Fafn
09/12/21 10:44:12 PM
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Hello fellow American brothers,
I appreciate your interest in China but your concern is unnecessary. China is the global happiest! Now I must leave to attend my job at a hamburger store in New York. Shucks Howdy.

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Solar_Crimson
09/12/21 11:00:52 PM
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Geiki Ganger posted...
I don't engage with terrorists.
How does any of that make him a "terrorist"? He's not excusing anything they did; just making clarifications.

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Geiki Ganger
09/13/21 12:59:46 AM
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Collat posted...
Well that's a twist I didn't expect from this topic.

I like to subvert expectations.

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Collat
09/13/21 4:13:30 AM
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TrowaBarton7 posted...
I bet you also believe that Iraq has WMDs.
What a moronic leap in logic.

There's more than enough proof of genocide. Nothing for the WMDs.
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TrowaBarton7
09/13/21 4:19:29 PM
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Collat posted...
There's more than enough proof

Really? Lets see the proof then.

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