Poll of the Day > #MeTooALERT: Cali to Outlaw removing Condoms during Sex...

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pionear 09/10/21 2:17:05 PM #1:	Which One? Yup Nah Which One? - Results (74 votes) Yup 66.22% (49 votes) 49 Nah 33.78% (25 votes) 25 https://www.yahoo.com/news/stealthing-california-poised-outlaw-removing-202746267.html Without the other Partner's Consent, of course... Do you think this should be a Law? (Poll Question) <cite>pionear posted [p:957920003] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote> Which One? Yup Nah Vote View Results Which One? - Results (74 votes) Yup 66.22% (49 votes) 49 Nah 33.78% (25 votes) 25 Show Voting Form https://www.yahoo.com/news/stealthing-california-poised-outlaw-removing-202746267.html Without the other Partner's Consent, of course... Do you think this should be a Law? (Poll Question) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 09/10/21 2:20:31 PM #2:	Thats a slippery slope because I have had condoms just fall off during sex, one even ended up inside of the girl. How am I supposed to prove it was an accident? Also what about miscommunications? I had one girl that I communicated to her the condom broke and asked her if she wanted to keep going and she agreed to it, she broke off our fwb relationship and quoted that as the reason (though I think she was just looking for a reason to get rid of me at the time), even though I thought I was clear when I communicated it to her. I understand theres assholes who just rip off the condom without consent and endanger their partner with stds/impregnation but it seems like an easy law for women to abuse when they arent honest. --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:957920112] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>Thats a slippery slope because I have had condoms just fall off during sex, one even ended up inside of the girl. How am I supposed to prove it was an accident? Also what about miscommunications? I had one girl that I communicated to her the condom broke and asked her if she wanted to keep going and she agreed to it, she broke off our fwb relationship and quoted that as the reason (though I think she was just looking for a reason to get rid of me at the time), even though I thought I was clear when I communicated it to her. I understand theres assholes who just rip off the condom without consent and endanger their partner with stds/impregnation but it seems like an easy law for women to abuse when they arent honest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 09/10/21 2:40:29 PM #3:	Good idea, but the burden of proof gets a bit tricky. People who deliberately do this should have their urethras sewn shut to protect the world from their deception, but accidental condom breaks also happen (though every single time I've had it happen, both I and my girlfriend noticed immediately, so...), as do legitimate miscommunications, and separating those from malicious acts is hard. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:957920721] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>Good idea, but the burden of proof gets a bit tricky. People who deliberately do this should have their urethras sewn shut to protect the world from their deception, but accidental condom breaks also happen (though every single time I've had it happen, both I and my girlfriend noticed immediately, so...), as do legitimate miscommunications, and separating those from malicious acts is hard. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EvilMegas 09/10/21 2:49:32 PM #4:	Good. --- The first person to be fully vaccinated on GameFaQs. Boobs are life, ass is hometown Kenichiro Takaki. <cite>EvilMegas posted [p:957921035] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>Good. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 09/10/21 2:50:59 PM #5:	deoxxys posted... Thats a slippery slope because I have had condoms just fall off during sex, one even ended up inside of the girl. How am I supposed to prove it was an accident? Also what about miscommunications? I had one girl that I communicated to her the condom broke and asked her if she wanted to keep going and she agreed to it, she broke off our fwb relationship and quoted that as the reason (though I think she was just looking for a reason to get rid of me at the time), even though I thought I was clear when I communicated it to her. This, pretty much. It's just another far-left overreach where the good intention is immediately lost in the impracticality, and it's a clearly gendered law so I question the Constitutionality under equal protections rights. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:957921072] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>deoxxys posted... </cite> <quote>Thats a slippery slope because I have had condoms just fall off during sex, one even ended up inside of the girl. How am I supposed to prove it was an accident? Also what about miscommunications? I had one girl that I communicated to her the condom broke and asked her if she wanted to keep going and she agreed to it, she broke off our fwb relationship and quoted that as the reason (though I think she was just looking for a reason to get rid of me at the time), even though I thought I was clear when I communicated it to her.</quote> This, pretty much. It's just another far-left overreach where the good intention is immediately lost in the impracticality, and it's a clearly gendered law so I question the Constitutionality under equal protections rights. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 09/10/21 2:52:55 PM #6:	Zeus posted... it's a clearly gendered law so I question the Constitutionality under equal protections rights. Where is this argument whenever you talk about abortion laws? --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:957921122] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>it's a clearly gendered law so I question the Constitutionality under equal protections rights.</quote> Where is this argument whenever you talk about abortion laws? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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jiffdiff 09/10/21 4:41:55 PM #8:	Yep, this is a good law. Hopefully it extends to lying about birth control too. <cite>jiffdiff posted [p:957924457] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>Yep, this is a good law. Hopefully it extends to lying about birth control too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 09/10/21 5:13:29 PM #9:	Like mentioned before, burden of proof becomes tricky/hard, I would think. Plus, what happens if you never had a condom to begin with, but they say you did --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:957925395] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>Like mentioned before, burden of proof becomes tricky/hard, I would think. Plus, what happens if you never had a condom to begin with, but they say you did</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 09/10/21 5:29:41 PM #10:	LinkPizza posted... Plus, what happens if you never had a condom to begin with, but they say you did F* I didn't even think about that --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:957925857] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>Plus, what happens if you never had a condom to begin with, but they say you did</quote>F* I didn't even think about that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 09/10/21 6:17:16 PM #11:	Good. I've heard from way too many girls about guys pulling this kind of fucked up shit. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:957927360] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>Good. I've heard from way too many girls about guys pulling this kind of fucked up shit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 09/10/21 6:19:24 PM #12:	deoxxys posted... F* I didn't even think about that See, you guys can keep having hypothetical conversations about women lying, when one of you doesn't even have sex with women. In my my personal sexual relationships, I have never had to deal with a 'tricky' woman when it comes to birth control/condoms. I've heard dozens of stories about men lying or trying to get what they want in these regards. One's a big problem. The one you're hypothesizing on isn't, and at least one of you has very little personal perspective on it. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:957927421] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>deoxxys posted... </cite> <quote>F* I didn't even think about that</quote>See, you guys can keep having hypothetical conversations about women lying, when one of you doesn't even have sex with women. In my my personal sexual relationships, I have never had to deal with a 'tricky' woman when it comes to birth control/condoms. I've heard dozens of stories about men lying or trying to get what they want in these regards. One's a big problem. The one you're hypothesizing on isn't, and at least one of you has very little personal perspective on it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
rexcrk 09/10/21 6:23:21 PM #13:	The #[whatever]ALERT is such a dumb gimmick. --- Bah weep grannah weep ni ni bon <cite>rexcrk posted [p:957927557] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>The #[whatever]ALERT is such a dumb gimmick. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 09/10/21 6:27:35 PM #14:	ReturnOfFa posted... See, you guys can keep having hypothetical conversations about women lying, when one of you doesn't even have sex with women. In my my personal sexual relationships, I have never had to deal with a 'tricky' woman when it comes to birth control/condoms. I've heard dozens of stories about men lying or trying to get what they want in these regards. One's a big problem. The one you're hypothesizing on isn't, and at least one of you has very little personal perspective on it. I'm not saying all women are lying. But this is something that will hard to prove that you're telling the truth for either side... Unless you have a third party or some kind of recording, it's a "he said, she said" situation... And I don't think it really relevant who I sleep with for me to put my two cents in... Especially since straight people like to put their two cents in on gay relationships, as well... And even try to control or stop it, in many cases... Not to mention, this could happen to gay guys, as well... Unless it's a sexist rule that only applies to women... And you said you've heard dozens of stories of men lying, but none about women. But I've heard stories from both sides. And being in the military, I've heard more about women lying. Happens to guys on base all the time to the point where they have to warn First Term Airman about it... So, you said the one we're hypothesizing isn't a big problem, but that's mainly because there's no law. With a law, it will become a big problem. Especially if they take a woman's word on it with no proof. Whether she's lying of not, just blindly trusting in her isn't the best idea... The big problem here is going to be having to have proof. And that's not something people are going to have unless they have contracts before, during, and after sex... or video... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:957927712] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>ReturnOfFa posted...</cite> <quote>See, you guys can keep having hypothetical conversations about women lying, when one of you doesn't even have sex with women. In my my personal sexual relationships, I have never had to deal with a 'tricky' woman when it comes to birth control/condoms. I've heard dozens of stories about men lying or trying to get what they want in these regards. One's a big problem. The one you're hypothesizing on isn't, and at least one of you has very little personal perspective on it.</quote> I'm not saying all women are lying. But this is something that will hard to prove that you're telling the truth for either side... Unless you have a third party or some kind of recording, it's a "he said, she said" situation... And I don't think it really relevant who I sleep with for me to put my two cents in... Especially since straight people like to put their two cents in on gay relationships, as well... And even try to control or stop it, in many cases... Not to mention, this could happen to gay guys, as well... Unless it's a sexist rule that only applies to women... And you said you've heard dozens of stories of men lying, but none about women. But I've heard stories from both sides. And being in the military, I've heard more about women lying. Happens to guys on base all the time to the point where they have to warn First Term Airman about it... So, you said the one we're hypothesizing isn't a big problem, but that's mainly because there's no law. With a law, it will become a big problem. Especially if they take a woman's word on it with no proof. Whether she's lying of not, just blindly trusting in her isn't the best idea... The big problem here is going to be having to have proof. And that's not something people are going to have unless they have contracts before, during, and after sex... or video...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blighboy 09/10/21 6:36:08 PM #15:	What if I do it as a magic trick, like I pull it out of her ear or something --- I have no idea whether or not he's a racist, but apparently there are recordings of him using racial slurs so it's a distinct possibility. <cite>Blighboy posted [p:957927978] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>What if I do it as a magic trick, like I pull it out of her ear or something </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InfernalFive 09/10/21 7:47:36 PM #16:	How on Earth would you possibly be able to prove a condom fell off or if they even had one to begin with? I understand and respect the intention but this is ridiculous. --- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyfabsU4xH1qzy531o1_500.jpg https://imgur.com/ggCrHk8 <cite>InfernalFive posted [p:957929972] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>How on Earth would you possibly be able to prove a condom fell off or if they even had one to begin with? I understand and respect the intention but this is ridiculous. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 09/10/21 8:13:34 PM #17:	fair point that it's extremely hard to prove. it's too bad a lot of sex crimes are hard to prove. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:957930732] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>fair point that it's extremely hard to prove. it's too bad a lot of sex crimes are hard to prove. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 09/10/21 8:17:51 PM #18:	ReturnOfFa posted... fair point that it's extremely hard to prove. it's too bad a lot of sex crimes are hard to prove. True. But many are much easier than this. For example, rape kits arent perfect, but can help. But not much is going to help you figure out if a guy stealthed a woman/man Especially since there may not even be proof they ever had one on. --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:957930880] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>ReturnOfFa posted...</cite> <quote>fair point that it's extremely hard to prove. it's too bad a lot of sex crimes are hard to prove.</quote> True. But many are much easier than this. For example, rape kits arent perfect, but can help. But not much is going to help you figure out if a guy stealthed a woman/man Especially since there may not even be proof they ever had one on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 09/10/21 8:27:09 PM #19:	LinkPizza posted... True. But many are much easier than this. For example, rape kits arent perfect, but can help. But not much is going to help you figure out if a guy stealthed a woman/man Especially since there may not even be proof they ever had one on. Closest thing I can think of would be the disposed condom/package w/no jizz in it, and a far stronger case if a rape kit was involved too. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:957931182] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>True. But many are much easier than this. For example, rape kits arent perfect, but can help. But not much is going to help you figure out if a guy stealthed a woman/man Especially since there may not even be proof they ever had one on.</quote>Closest thing I can think of would be the disposed condom/package w/no jizz in it, and a far stronger case if a rape kit was involved too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BEERandWEED 09/10/21 8:30:19 PM #20:	It's a dick move but do we really need laws? <cite>BEERandWEED posted [p:957931290] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>It's a dick move but do we really need laws? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TigerTycoon 09/10/21 8:32:50 PM #21:	They should just go ahead and make the Love Contract a real thing if they care so much. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo4568PIRnk --- YOU COULDN'T AFFORD IT! <cite>TigerTycoon posted [p:957931380] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>They should just go ahead and make the Love Contract a real thing if they care so much. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo4568PIRnk</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BEERandWEED 09/10/21 8:37:38 PM #22:	How many guys are actually thinking "I'm taking this condom off and getting her pregnant"? Pointless law and a waste of tax dollars. <cite>BEERandWEED posted [p:957931538] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>How many guys are actually thinking "I'm taking this condom off and getting her pregnant"? Pointless law and a waste of tax dollars. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 09/10/21 9:15:02 PM #23:	adjl posted... Where is this argument whenever you talk about abortion laws? If it tied into it, it would come up. jiffdiff posted... Yep, this is a good law. Hopefully it extends to lying about birth control too. Yeah, that should be a criminal matter... if they could actually prove that, so we'd more or less be in the same boat as with this. ReturnOfFa posted... In my my personal sexual relationships, I have never had to deal with a 'tricky' woman when it comes to birth control/condoms. I've heard dozens of stories about men lying or trying to get what they want in these regards. One's a big problem. The one you're hypothesizing on isn't, and at least one of you has very little personal perspective on it. "It's never happened to me, so I don't believe it happens. But this other thing that's also never happened to me definitely happens and is a big fucking deal." jfc... TigerTycoon posted... They should just go ahead and make the Love Contract a real thing if they care so much. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo4568PIRnk Or just always insist on a sex tape. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:957932757] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite> <quote>Where is this argument whenever you talk about abortion laws?</quote> If it tied into it, it would come up. jiffdiff posted... </cite> <quote>Yep, this is a good law. Hopefully it extends to lying about birth control too.</quote> Yeah, that should be a criminal matter... if they could actually prove that, so we'd more or less be in the same boat as with this. ReturnOfFa posted... </cite> <quote>In my my personal sexual relationships, I have never had to deal with a 'tricky' woman when it comes to birth control/condoms. I've heard dozens of stories about men lying or trying to get what they want in these regards. One's a big problem. The one you're hypothesizing on isn't, and at least one of you has very little personal perspective on it.</quote> "It's never happened to me, so I don't believe it happens. But this other thing that's also never happened to me definitely happens and is a big fucking deal." jfc... TigerTycoon posted... </cite> <quote>They should just go ahead and make the Love Contract a real thing if they care so much. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo4568PIRnk</quote> Or just always insist on a sex tape. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 09/10/21 9:18:05 PM #24:	Zeus posted... "It's never happened to me, so I don't believe it happens. But this other thing that's also never happened to me definitely happens and is a big fucking deal." jfc... homie at least acknowledge by concession a few posts down jfc..... --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:957932860] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>"It's never happened to me, so I don't believe it happens. But this other thing that's also never happened to me definitely happens and is a big fucking deal." jfc...</quote>homie at least acknowledge by concession a few posts down jfc..... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InfernalFive 09/10/21 9:24:07 PM #25:	BEERandWEED posted... How many guys are actually thinking "I'm taking this condom off and getting her pregnant"? Pointless law and a waste of tax dollars. Definitely. These Cali lawmakers are watching too much cuck porn lol. --- http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lyfabsU4xH1qzy531o1_500.jpg https://imgur.com/ggCrHk8 <cite>InfernalFive posted [p:957933047] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>BEERandWEED posted... </cite> <quote>How many guys are actually thinking "I'm taking this condom off and getting her pregnant"? Pointless law and a waste of tax dollars.</quote>Definitely. These Cali lawmakers are watching too much cuck porn lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 09/10/21 9:41:24 PM #26:	Zeus posted... If it tied into it, it would come up. You don't believe laws against getting abortions are gendered? You are aware that biological men don't typically have uteruses, right? --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:957933578] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>If it tied into it, it would come up.</quote> You don't believe laws against getting abortions are gendered? You are aware that biological men don't typically have uteruses, right? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 09/10/21 10:26:54 PM #27:	ReturnOfFa posted... Closest thing I can think of would be the disposed condom/package w/no jizz in it, and a far stronger case if a rape kit was involved too. Not really. A condom with jizz points to sex one time. And thats if they even have it. Most guys disposed of that instead of keeping it. I mean, I havent heard of many guys keeping it, at least. And if they had sex more than once, they can easily say it was a different time. I mean, if they are going to lie about it happening, lying about when isnt really gonna do much worse So, no. A rape would have more evidence than this would --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:957934868] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>ReturnOfFa posted...</cite> <quote>Closest thing I can think of would be the disposed condom/package w/no jizz in it, and a far stronger case if a rape kit was involved too.</quote> Not really. A condom with jizz points to sex one time. And thats if they even have it. Most guys disposed of that instead of keeping it. I mean, I havent heard of many guys keeping it, at least. And if they had sex more than once, they can easily say it was a different time. I mean, if they are going to lie about it happening, lying about when isnt really gonna do much worse So, no. A rape would have more evidence than this would</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gaawa_chan 09/10/21 11:26:20 PM #28:	Yes, obviously. Consent to sex is conditional. You change one of the conditions, you've changed whether or not that consent applies. That isn't even factoring into account that you might impregnate or spread a disease to a partner who sure as shit didn't consent to that. BEERandWEED posted... How many guys are actually thinking "I'm taking this condom off and getting her pregnant"? Why does the frequency matter? We have a lot of laws for things that don't happen very often. --- Hi <cite>Gaawa_chan posted [p:957936308] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>Yes, obviously. Consent to sex is conditional. You change one of the conditions, you've changed whether or not that consent applies. That isn't even factoring into account that you might impregnate or spread a disease to a partner who sure as shit didn't consent to that. BEERandWEED posted... </cite> <quote>How many guys are actually thinking "I'm taking this condom off and getting her pregnant"?</quote>Why does the frequency matter? We have a lot of laws for things that don't happen very often. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 09/10/21 11:36:49 PM #29:	BEERandWEED posted... How many guys are actually thinking "I'm taking this condom off and getting her pregnant"? Pointless law and a waste of tax dollars. As much as I agree that its a stupid and impractical law.... I disagree with the above statement. No guys arent thinking that specifically, when guys do that its because it feels better without rubber on your dick. Its like trying to have a makeout session with a grocery bag on your head. --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:957936528] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>BEERandWEED posted... </cite> <quote>How many guys are actually thinking "I'm taking this condom off and getting her pregnant"? Pointless law and a waste of tax dollars.</quote>As much as I agree that its a stupid and impractical law.... I disagree with the above statement. No guys arent thinking that specifically, when guys do that its because it feels better without rubber on your dick. Its like trying to have a makeout session with a grocery bag on your head. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 09/10/21 11:58:28 PM #30:	pionear posted... Do you think this should be a Law? I feel like this is already a law. Or that at least some existing laws have been interpreted to cover it. It tends to fall under general consent laws and rape via deception. I definitely feel like I've heard of it being an issue in the past where guys were prosecuted for it. It feels like this is just an attempt to make something explicit that's been implicit for a while now. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:957937021] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote><cite>pionear posted...</cite> <quote>Do you think this should be a Law?</quote> I feel like this is already a law. Or that at least some existing laws have been interpreted to cover it. It tends to fall under general consent laws and rape via deception. I definitely feel like I've heard of it being an issue in the past where guys were prosecuted for it. It feels like this is just an attempt to make something explicit that's been implicit for a while now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 09/11/21 12:03:07 AM #31:	Meanwhile, women can lie about being on birth control, puncture pinholes in a condom package before using it, or literally turkey baster the sperm after the fact, and their "punishment" is 18 years of child support... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sperm_theft <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:957937126] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>Meanwhile, women can lie about being on birth control, puncture pinholes in a condom package before using it, or literally turkey baster the sperm after the fact, and their "punishment" is 18 years of child support... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sperm_theft </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pionear 09/14/21 11:30:03 AM #32:	Zeus posted... and it's a clearly gendered law so I question the Constitutionality under equal protections rights. You know Gay Guys and Females have 'Sex' with condoms, rite? <cite>pionear posted [p:958044234] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>and it's a clearly gendered law so I question the Constitutionality under equal protections rights. </quote> You know Gay Guys and Females have 'Sex' with condoms, rite? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 09/14/21 12:37:18 PM #33:	While female condoms are technically a thing and would conceivably be covered under this, they're so infrequently used and difficult to sneakily remove that I'd be very surprised if a woman were ever convicted of this crime. He's not wrong that a law that prohibits sneaky condom removal is gendered (or at least sexed), since it's going to be (biological) men convicted virtually every instance of this crime, but that's not so much discrimination as it is a reflection of the fact that men are the only ones that will ever commit it. Similarly, laws against getting abortions are gendered because it's only ever going to be (biological) women getting convicted, but that's a matter of biology and not deliberate discrimination. If you want an example of a law that is gendered because of deliberate discrimination, look at female toplessness. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:958046194] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>While female condoms are technically a thing and would conceivably be covered under this, they're so infrequently used and difficult to sneakily remove that I'd be very surprised if a woman were ever convicted of this crime. He's not wrong that a law that prohibits sneaky condom removal is gendered (or at least sexed), since it's going to be (biological) men convicted virtually every instance of this crime, but that's not so much discrimination as it is a reflection of the fact that men are the only ones that will ever commit it. Similarly, laws against getting abortions are gendered because it's only ever going to be (biological) women getting convicted, but that's a matter of biology and not deliberate discrimination. If you want an example of a law that is gendered because of deliberate discrimination, look at female toplessness. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Arcturusisnow 09/14/21 4:31:49 PM #34:	adjl posted... Where is this argument whenever you talk about abortion laws? Wonder if Elon is regretting moving Tesla to Texas? <cite>Arcturusisnow posted [p:958053625] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite> <quote>Where is this argument whenever you talk about abortion laws?</quote>Wonder if Elon is regretting moving Tesla to Texas? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PunishedOni 09/14/21 4:35:50 PM #35:	deoxxys posted... Thats a slippery slope because I have had condoms just fall off during sex, one even ended up inside of the girl. have you thought about buying condoms that actually fit your tiny dick --- hi im chelsea ^__^ You have entered the lair of SOMA - the Sega Online Machine Agent. Turn back now, or prepare to be digitized! <cite>PunishedOni posted [p:958053770] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>deoxxys posted... </cite> <quote>Thats a slippery slope because I have had condoms just fall off during sex, one even ended up inside of the girl.</quote>have you thought about buying condoms that actually fit your tiny dick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ergonomics 09/14/21 4:37:58 PM #36:	deoxxys posted... Thats a slippery slope because I have had condoms just fall off during sex, one even ended up inside of the girl. How am I supposed to prove it was an accident? Also what about miscommunications? I had one girl that I communicated to her the condom broke and asked her if she wanted to keep going and she agreed to it, she broke off our fwb relationship and quoted that as the reason (though I think she was just looking for a reason to get rid of me at the time), even though I thought I was clear when I communicated it to her. I understand theres assholes who just rip off the condom without consent and endanger their partner with stds/impregnation but it seems like an easy law for women to abuse when they arent honest. Use a stapler or git good <cite>Ergonomics posted [p:958053827] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>deoxxys posted... </cite> <quote>Thats a slippery slope because I have had condoms just fall off during sex, one even ended up inside of the girl. How am I supposed to prove it was an accident? Also what about miscommunications? I had one girl that I communicated to her the condom broke and asked her if she wanted to keep going and she agreed to it, she broke off our fwb relationship and quoted that as the reason (though I think she was just looking for a reason to get rid of me at the time), even though I thought I was clear when I communicated it to her. I understand theres assholes who just rip off the condom without consent and endanger their partner with stds/impregnation but it seems like an easy law for women to abuse when they arent honest.</quote>Use a stapler or git good </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 09/14/21 4:39:03 PM #37:	Ergonomics posted... Use a stapler or git good Or only have sex with girls that will let him go in raw --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:958053866] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>Ergonomics posted... </cite> <quote>Use a stapler or git good</quote>Or only have sex with girls that will let him go in raw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 09/14/21 4:55:01 PM #38:	Condoms fit just fine thanks, can't help it if you don't fuck like a pornstar Falling off was like a one or two time thing but the fact that it can happen means it could happen to anyone who actually has sex consistently. Also I don't need a man on the internet pretending like he know anything about my cock, the girls tell me all I need to hear --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:958054374] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>Condoms fit just fine thanks, can't help it if you don't fuck like a pornstar Falling off was like a one or two time thing but the fact that it can happen means it could happen to anyone who actually has sex consistently. Also I don't need a man on the internet pretending like he know anything about my cock, the girls tell me all I need to hear </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PunishedOni 09/15/21 12:46:02 AM #39:	deoxxys posted... Condoms fit just fine thanks, can't help it if you don't fuck like a pornstar do you think porn is a good model of how to have enjoyable sex Falling off was like a one or two time thing but the fact that it can happen means it could happen to anyone who actually has sex consistently. that doesnt even make sense. if i cut my fingers off using scissors that wouldnt make it a normal thing that happens to everyone. it would prboably mean i was doing something wrong Also I don't need a man on the internet pretending like he know anything about my cock, the girls tell me all I need to hear im a girl --- hi im chelsea ^__^ You have entered the lair of SOMA - the Sega Online Machine Agent. Turn back now, or prepare to be digitized! <cite>PunishedOni posted [p:958068119] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>deoxxys posted... </cite> <quote>Condoms fit just fine thanks, can't help it if you don't fuck like a pornstar </quote> do you think porn is a good model of how to have enjoyable sex <quote>Falling off was like a one or two time thing but the fact that it can happen means it could happen to anyone who actually has sex consistently.</quote> that doesnt even make sense. if i cut my fingers off using scissors that wouldnt make it a normal thing that happens to everyone. it would prboably mean i was doing something wrong <quote>Also I don't need a man on the internet pretending like he know anything about my cock, the girls tell me all I need to hear </quote>im a girl </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 09/15/21 12:52:09 AM #40:	PunishedOni has me blocked, but here is something I found about condom slippage... Men attending 3 sexually transmissible disease clinics and a university health service in Sydney were given a questionnaire asking how many condoms they had used in the past year and how many broke during application or use or slipped off. Respondents were 544 men aged 18 to 54 years. Of these, 402 men reported using 13,691 condoms for vaginal or anal intercourse; 7.3% reportedly broke during application or use and 4.4% slipped off. Men having sex with men reported slightly higher slippage rates than those having sex with women. Breakage and slippage were unevenly distributed among the sample: a few men experienced very high failure rates. A volunteer subsample reported 3 months later on condoms supplied to them: 36 men used 529 condoms, of which 2.8% broke during application or use and 3.4% slipped off. So, I mean, it happens to men already. And can still happen... It's not super common or anything, but happens enough... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:958068254] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>PunishedOni has me blocked, but here is something I found about condom slippage... <quote>Men attending 3 sexually transmissible disease clinics and a university health service in Sydney were given a questionnaire asking how many condoms they had used in the past year and how many broke during application or use or slipped off. Respondents were 544 men aged 18 to 54 years. Of these, 402 men reported using 13,691 condoms for vaginal or anal intercourse; 7.3% reportedly broke during application or use and 4.4% slipped off. Men having sex with men reported slightly higher slippage rates than those having sex with women. Breakage and slippage were unevenly distributed among the sample: a few men experienced very high failure rates. A volunteer subsample reported 3 months later on condoms supplied to them: 36 men used 529 condoms, of which 2.8% broke during application or use and 3.4% slipped off.</quote> So, I mean, it happens to men already. And can still happen... It's not super common or anything, but happens enough...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jiffdiff 09/15/21 4:23:44 AM #41:	adjl posted... biological men don't typically have uteruses I'm really curious about the typically part. If someone has a penis and a uterus doesn't that make them biologically intersex not biologically male? <cite>jiffdiff posted [p:958071140] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite> <quote>biological men don't typically have uteruses</quote>I'm really curious about the typically part. If someone has a penis and a uterus doesn't that make them biologically intersex not biologically male? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 09/15/21 6:22:16 AM #42:	Fairly sure this is covered under other laws, so likely just virtue signalling --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:958072423] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>Fairly sure this is covered under other laws, so likely just virtue signalling</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArvTheGreat 09/15/21 10:21:03 AM #43:	if you have sex expect pregnancy! --- Things are about to get arvified <cite>ArvTheGreat posted [p:958076630] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>if you have sex expect pregnancy! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 09/15/21 10:51:59 AM #44:	LinkPizza posted... PunishedOni has me blocked, but here is something I found about condom slippage... So, I mean, it happens to men already. And can still happen... It's not super common or anything, but happens enough... Yep, it's part of why condoms are terribly unreliable as a sole method of birth control. If you experience it frequently, you should consider switching to a brand with a smaller nominal width, since that does suggest you're using too big a condom, but it's certainly not impossible and doesn't indicate anything absolute about dick size. At the other end, breakage is also not that uncommon, especially when dealing with longer sessions. I'd end up breaking one pretty much every time I went for more than half an hour with my girlfriend before we gave up on that and just switched to putting one on for me to finish in (she's got an IUD, so the condom is just extra insurance). Mostly, just don't rely on condoms. 85% is just not good enough for something as important as birth control. jiffdiff posted... I'm really curious about the typically part. If someone has a penis and a uterus doesn't that make them biologically intersex not biologically male? That was mostly just a sarcastic understatement in response to Zeus saying something really dumb. I'm sure exceptions exist somehow, but I don't personally know of any and I can't think of a hypothetical example. Kyuubi4269 posted... Fairly sure this is covered under other laws, so likely just virtue signalling It's less a matter of virtue signalling (that is, saying you care about something purely for the sake of looking like a better person) and more a matter of emphasizing that it's a bad thing and removing any ambiguity in existing laws that could be used to get away with it. There's practical value in that, though as pretty much everyone has said, this is going to be hard to enforce. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:958077317] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>PunishedOni has me blocked, but here is something I found about condom slippage... So, I mean, it happens to men already. And can still happen... It's not super common or anything, but happens enough...</quote> Yep, it's part of why condoms are terribly unreliable as a sole method of birth control. If you experience it frequently, you should consider switching to a brand with a smaller nominal width, since that does suggest you're using too big a condom, but it's certainly not impossible and doesn't indicate anything absolute about dick size. At the other end, breakage is also not that uncommon, especially when dealing with longer sessions. I'd end up breaking one pretty much every time I went for more than half an hour with my girlfriend before we gave up on that and just switched to putting one on for me to finish in (she's got an IUD, so the condom is just extra insurance). Mostly, just don't rely on condoms. 85% is just not good enough for something as important as birth control. jiffdiff posted... </cite> <quote>I'm really curious about the typically part. If someone has a penis and a uterus doesn't that make them biologically intersex not biologically male?</quote> That was mostly just a sarcastic understatement in response to Zeus saying something really dumb. I'm sure exceptions exist somehow, but I don't personally know of any and I can't think of a hypothetical example. Kyuubi4269 posted... </cite> <quote>Fairly sure this is covered under other laws, so likely just virtue signalling</quote> It's less a matter of virtue signalling (that is, saying you care about something purely for the sake of looking like a better person) and more a matter of emphasizing that it's a bad thing and removing any ambiguity in existing laws that could be used to get away with it. There's practical value in that, though as pretty much everyone has said, this is going to be hard to enforce. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 09/15/21 10:59:36 AM #45:	adjl posted... breakage is also not that uncommon, especially when dealing with longer sessions. If you're pounding away for half an hour straight, you're doing it wrong. Also you should use one per "penetration", not per session. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:958077522] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>breakage is also not that uncommon, especially when dealing with longer sessions. </quote> If you're pounding away for half an hour straight, you're doing it wrong. Also you should use one per "penetration", not per session.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 09/16/21 1:35:24 AM #46:	PunishedOni posted... do you think porn is a good model of how to have enjoyable sex that doesnt even make sense. if i cut my fingers off using scissors that wouldnt make it a normal thing that happens to everyone. it would prboably mean i was doing something wrong im a girl I mean it'd be weirder to think you could learn nothing from watching porn. . I don't even know how to reply to the scissors thing, its just too stupid. Doesn't really matter that you're a girl, you're still just a person on the internet whoose never seen my dick. Again the girls I've be been with have elevated my confidence to that of a sex god --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:958102269] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>PunishedOni posted... </cite> <quote>do you think porn is a good model of how to have enjoyable sex that doesnt even make sense. if i cut my fingers off using scissors that wouldnt make it a normal thing that happens to everyone. it would prboably mean i was doing something wrong im a girl</quote>I mean it'd be weirder to think you could learn nothing from watching porn. . I don't even know how to reply to the scissors thing, its just too stupid. Doesn't really matter that you're a girl, you're still just a person on the internet whoose never seen my dick. Again the girls I've be been with have elevated my confidence to that of a sex god </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PunishedOni 09/16/21 7:14:31 PM #47:	which sex god are you. im a big fan of Lofn personally --- hi im chelsea ^__^ You have entered the lair of SOMA - the Sega Online Machine Agent. Turn back now, or prepare to be digitized! <cite>PunishedOni posted [p:958123701] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>which sex god are you. im a big fan of Lofn personally </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 09/16/21 11:24:00 PM #48:	Brucifer of the Squelch --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:958130329] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>Brucifer of the Squelch </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 09/17/21 3:51:16 AM #49:	https://youtu.be/5CNHwhHWPoQ?t=6 And wow, 2/3 voted yes. WTF? <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:958134874] in #MeTooALER... [t:79654927]...</cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/5CNHwhHWPoQ?t=6 And wow, 2/3 voted yes. WTF? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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