Board 8 > Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1367

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pjbasis
09/11/21 10:15:14 AM
#152:


Leonhart4 posted...


Also Steve was in 2013.

He must have made it in by virtue of the size, but he could probably get into a 128 bracket now.

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Leonhart4
09/11/21 10:38:16 AM
#153:


charmander6000 posted...
To be fair, TLOU will probably be one of the strongest games in the bracket.

Which is also unfortunate

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Safer_777
09/11/21 12:16:51 PM
#154:


Well when you say FF 7 you mean both games now so if you like RPG's you have played at least one of them.

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plasmabeam
09/11/21 12:24:08 PM
#155:


Leonhart4 posted...
Which is also unfortunate

Nah, TLOU is the PS3's crown jewel, and it has one of the best stories in gaming (not to mention one of the best endings in any medium).

I'd rank it 5th in its division behind MGS3, SM64, SMW, and SSBU.

That said, it has no business thumping MGS3. None at all.

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Leonhart4
09/11/21 12:28:40 PM
#156:


plasmabeam posted...
Nah, TLOU is the PS3's crown jewel, and it has one of the best stories in gaming (not to mention one of the best endings in any medium).

No, and no. The fact that it's treated as a seminal example of storytelling is bothersome to me because I don't think it's anything close to that.

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squexa
09/12/21 5:13:22 PM
#157:


Anyone (presumably @LusterSoldier ) have the GameFAQs stats page for BYIG, CBX and GotD2 (with prediction %, Anonymous vs user breakdown, etc)? I'm trying to update the wiki when I have some time.

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pjbasis
09/12/21 5:38:40 PM
#158:


Can't wait to play a popular game leon shits on it's so funny

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Leonhart4
09/12/21 5:41:46 PM
#159:


Hey at least I play the games I poop on lawl

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MetalmindStats
09/12/21 6:02:16 PM
#160:


squexa posted...
Anyone (presumably @LusterSoldier ) have the GameFAQs stats page for BYIG, CBX and GotD2 (with prediction %, Anonymous vs user breakdown, etc)? I'm trying to update the wiki when I have some time.
BYIG (without the vote breakdowns; not sure if this contest had them): https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/features/byg_stats
CBX: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/features/cbx_stats
GotD2: web.archive.org/web/20200508234125/ https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/features/gotd_stats (remove the space)

Hopefully someone like Luster has the missing GotD2 data.

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squexa
09/12/21 6:12:49 PM
#161:


MetalmindStats posted...
BYIG (without the vote breakdowns; not sure if this contest had them): https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/features/byg_stats
CBX: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/features/cbx_stats
GotD2: web.archive.org/web/20200508234125/ https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/features/gotd_stats (remove the space)

Hopefully someone like Luster has the missing GotD2 data.

Thanks. Do you also have the Oracle numbers for BYIG? I recall that was the year when TRE or Luster recorded everything by hand.

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MetalmindStats
09/12/21 6:22:38 PM
#162:


squexa posted...
Do you also have the Oracle numbers for BYIG? I recall that was the year when TRE or Luster recorded everything by hand.
I'm afraid I don't, sorry. That checks out to me, though, since they're not on the Oracle site.

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Team Rocket Elite
09/12/21 6:25:26 PM
#163:


For Oracle, is this what you need?:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BbnK6f63pQRv6bvE-mgOr4_Yx48Yt_UCWL12AFMGJI8/edit?usp=sharing
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squexa
09/12/21 6:32:44 PM
#164:


Team Rocket Elite posted...
For Oracle, is this what you need?:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BbnK6f63pQRv6bvE-mgOr4_Yx48Yt_UCWL12AFMGJI8/edit?usp=sharing
That's great, thanks.

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Advokaiser
09/12/21 8:14:35 PM
#165:


Big Bob posted...
Here's a list of characters I think have good chances to get in due to recent game releases since the last character battle. Feel free to rank them in order of presumed contest strength:

Jin Sakai (Ghost of Tsushima)
Ichiban Kasuga (Yakuza: Like a Dragon)
Zagreus (Hades)
Ryunosuke Naruhodo (The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles)
Omori (Omori)
Steve (Minecraft)
Pyra (Xenoblade Chronicles 2)
Juro Kurabe (13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim)
Doomslayer (Doom)
Sekiro (Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice)
Stella (Spiritfarer)
Jesse Faden (Control)
Yuito Sumeragi (Scarlet Nexus)

Some due to a popular game, some due to the game being popular on Board 8, and some due to Smash Bros.

EDIT: K. Rool has been removed because I forgot he got in the last contest.

Pretty surprised nobody mentioned Lady Dimitrescu.

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Advokaiser
09/12/21 8:16:19 PM
#166:


Leonhart4 posted...
Kazuya probably beats most of those.

Also Steve was in 2013.

Ah, 2013... The darkest year for Minecraft.

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LusterSoldier
09/13/21 12:04:23 AM
#167:


squexa posted...
Anyone (presumably @LusterSoldier ) have the GameFAQs stats page for BYIG, CBX and GotD2 (with prediction %, Anonymous vs user breakdown, etc)? I'm trying to update the wiki when I have some time.


If you want the registered/anonymous user breakdowns, you can find them here:

CBX contest - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O1QuDMeK4VhHOia7bdBgtVp_F3kRTnGkkjtR0zRyudw/pub
GOTD2 contest - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kFS3SfH6sAhPdS85H7BpuFIkr9SayeF7AhMw-wrEBng/pub
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squexa
09/13/21 9:44:00 AM
#168:


LusterSoldier posted...
If you want the registered/anonymous user breakdowns, you can find them here:

CBX contest - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O1QuDMeK4VhHOia7bdBgtVp_F3kRTnGkkjtR0zRyudw/pub
GOTD2 contest - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kFS3SfH6sAhPdS85H7BpuFIkr9SayeF7AhMw-wrEBng/pub
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Big Bob
09/13/21 10:08:18 PM
#169:


Another new character popped into my head:

Herlock Sholmes (The Great Ace Attorney Chronicles)

...I have no idea if he'd be weak or get the joke vote.

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LeonhartFour
09/13/21 10:11:01 PM
#170:


He definitely would not be eligible because he's still based on a non-video game character despite the spoonerism. I don't think this is a Dracula situation because he literally is the character from the stories in GAA.

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pjbasis
09/14/21 2:51:48 AM
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_SecretSquirrel
09/14/21 6:29:46 AM
#172:


Honestly, I bet Allen would actually allow Herlock Sholmes into the contest, given that that name is an extra degree of separation that other borderline cases don't have (even though the name already existed for a similar parody that just became public domain). Whether or not Sholmes sees a memetic benefit as a result, or loses any benefit as a result of not actually being Sherlock Holmes is another story, but I wouldn't bet on him getting out of Round 1 either way.

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Leonhart4
09/14/21 10:19:33 AM
#173:


Yeah, even if he were allowed, he wouldn't do well, so I think it's a nom better spent elsewhere whether he's allowed or not.

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AxemRedRanger
09/14/21 6:22:50 PM
#174:


https://www.ign.com/articles/ign-best-video-game-of-all-time-bracket-vote-round-2

After more than 13 million votes (10 million on Instagram Stories alone), IGN's Best Video Game of All Time Bracket's first round kicked off with a bang.

oh

Apex Legends > Super Metroid huh

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WarThaNemesis2
09/14/21 7:29:12 PM
#175:


Leonhart4 posted...
Yeah, even if he were allowed, he wouldn't do well, so I think it's a nom better spent elsewhere whether he's allowed or not.

I mean if he got in it'd probably be at the cost of Edgeworth or Godot, so nothing of value would be lost.

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Leonhart4
09/14/21 7:30:26 PM
#176:


WarThaNemesis2 posted...
I mean if he got in it'd probably be at the cost of Edgeworth or Godot, so nothing of value would be lost.

Well, I wouldn't expect Godot to be back anyway.

I'd actually be curious to see how Edgeworth would do now after the newfound success of the Ace Attorney Trilogy. He'd still be weak, but he might be higher end fodder now.

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LiquidOshawott
09/14/21 8:56:23 PM
#177:


Yeah Edgeworth deserves a better opponent for a 1v1

Ellie or Neku next contest please

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Sunroof
09/14/21 9:27:23 PM
#178:


Does it bother you guys that there are no more contests?
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pjbasis
09/14/21 11:39:03 PM
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Advokaiser
09/15/21 12:44:04 AM
#180:


Godot was in a contest before?

How many Ace Attorney characters have gotten in before?

I'd root for Gumshoe so hard. He's awesomely funny (at least in all the classic YTPs I've seen him in).

Maya would probably be fodder (if she hasn't been in already), but seeing Von Karma with her whip and all would be awesome as well.

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Leonhart4
09/15/21 7:25:02 AM
#181:


Just those three. We don't need to see any more of them though.

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UltimaterializerX
09/15/21 7:18:40 PM
#182:


Sunroof posted...
Does it bother you guys that there are no more contests?
I did warn the anti-rally crowd this would happen, but they ignored the law of unintended consequences.

Check out the vote totals over on IGN, btw. If you allow rallies instead of telling people they're not welcome, you get 10 million votes in round one. Imagine that.

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WarThaNemesis2
09/15/21 7:36:28 PM
#183:


IGN matches on their site have about as many votes as GameFAQs does (before the vote doubling).

The lesson isn't that anti-rallying measures kill contests, it's that a site using social media is a good way to engage people instead of continuing to live in 2000.

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Mac Arrowny
09/15/21 8:29:21 PM
#184:


Just as a note, it's not social media in general - it's people voting on IGN's Youtube/Instagram/etc. pages. GameFAQs doesn't have enough of a presence on those social networks for it to get many votes there.
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LeonhartFour
09/15/21 9:07:05 PM
#185:


Yeah, I don't know that GameFAQs is just going to magically garner a social media presence like IGN currently has just because Allen starts trying to use it.

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UltimaterializerX
09/15/21 10:37:08 PM
#186:


WarThaNemesis2 posted...
IGN matches on their site have about as many votes as GameFAQs does (before the vote doubling).

The lesson isn't that anti-rallying measures kill contests, it's that a site using social media is a good way to engage people instead of continuing to live in 2000.
Ill just take this and move on and hope youre right. These low vote totals have just murdered my interest is all.

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pjbasis
09/15/21 11:06:32 PM
#187:


LeonhartFour posted...
Yeah, I don't know that GameFAQs is just going to magically garner a social media presence like IGN currently has just because Allen starts trying to use it.

People magically care enough to invade these contests in the first place. There is a sort of legacy to Gamefaqs contests, even if it's not IGN.

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LeonhartFour
09/15/21 11:09:38 PM
#188:


I mean, you can get them to care once. None of those rallies ever repeated itself. That's the problem. They invade, and then they leave. It doesn't result in any lasting traffic, and Allen has realized that.

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pjbasis
09/15/21 11:13:49 PM
#189:


I was just thinking you can get them to vote in all/more matches at least.

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LeonhartFour
09/15/21 11:14:47 PM
#190:


By, what, having 32 matches at once the way IGN is doing it? That's the only way it would happen, and a 5-day long match period would lose momentum really quickly.

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pjbasis
09/15/21 11:21:16 PM
#191:


Nah I think I didn't say that right. I think votals would increase from the various sources, which would limit the power of rallies the way they used to. The demographics would obviously shift substantially though, which could be fun if it's at least a new consistent.

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LeonhartFour
09/15/21 11:24:58 PM
#192:


I suppose. I think spreading the contest out onto Instagram and stuff would lessen some of the fun of contests for me because a large part of the fun is the individual statistics, and we would completely lose that unless Allen posts the combined results since IG doesn't let you see vote totals.

But regardless, I'm for bringing more voters in as long as they're consistent. I don't necessarily care what the site as a whole votes for. I just don't like it when it's completely skewed by one massive rally that's here one day and gone the next.

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Sunroof
09/16/21 12:49:44 AM
#193:


Allowing mainstream apps (YouTube, Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, etc.) would totally ruin these contests. Gamefaqs is in its own little corner where no one else shares our love for old school games and whatnot. These contests would turn into the joke IGN contests. We just have to accept that we will never get more than 50k votes again and that rallies have about a 60% chance of happening each contest.
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squexa
09/16/21 1:12:19 AM
#194:


IGN has 8.2 million followers on twitter. GameFAQs has 6.5k. The "IGN-style" contest isn't even an option for GameFAQs.

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WarThaNemesis2
09/16/21 1:17:46 AM
#195:


I mean, part of that is because IGN has evolved over the times. Those 8 million extra followers are partially the result of a long-term investment in staying relatively up to date and engage with the internet, while GameFAQs has tweeted 5 times in the last half decade.

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Leonhart4
09/16/21 1:37:23 AM
#196:


Wow, those must be some tweets.

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squexa
09/16/21 1:40:28 AM
#197:


IGN's a gaming news and review site, so naturally it makes sense to have a twitter for gamers that want to stay up to date. What can GameFAQs even tweet about? Nobody would care to get daily tweets like "we got 5 new FAQs uploaded today! come check them out now!" and expanding into news/reviews/memes/whatever doesn't make sense since that's GameSpot's job.

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Leonhart4
09/16/21 1:41:49 AM
#198:


You could tweet out "Got PS5?" Or something like that.

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_SecretSquirrel
09/16/21 3:24:21 AM
#199:


Yeah, you could just go the route of engagement farming and tweet whatever the PotD is.

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Seanchan
09/16/21 6:39:22 AM
#200:


Sunroof posted...
Allowing mainstream apps (YouTube, Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, etc.) would totally ruin these contests. Gamefaqs is in its own little corner where no one else shares our love for old school games and whatnot. These contests would turn into the joke IGN contests. We just have to accept that we will never get more than 50k votes again and that rallies have about a 60% chance of happening each contest.


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Advokaiser
09/17/21 11:42:25 PM
#201:


Look at the history of this poll:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/8124-why-are-you-visiting-gamefaqs-today

The percentage for I'm just here for the poll has been consistently increasing by big chunks over time, meaning that people (at least poll voters) have been losing interest in everything else.

At the same time, though, people who are into videogames but don't use GameFAQs, they DO fully recognize the site for various reasons, mainly contests, boards, and guides for old games.

Maybe unsurprisingly, I've come across people who weren't actually aware the site still existed and keeps going to this day, but they still have interest in it because they mainly associate the site with retro games (which is ironically the lesser relevant part of the site in terms of traffic compared to newer games, despite being the actual main interest in social boards like this one), so they're actually willing to get back to it.

tl;dr: GameFAQs regulars are probably losing interest due to monotony, but the right publicity could bring people back and gather more interest, therefore injecting liveliness into a small community.

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