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pogo_rabid
08/05/21 12:06:04 AM
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pogo_rabid
08/05/21 12:06:14 AM
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*greatest

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g0ldie
08/05/21 12:09:57 AM
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there's Alien & Aliens, as well as Terminator

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YookaLaylee
08/05/21 12:10:22 AM
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Mulan
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FortuneCookie
08/05/21 12:17:55 AM
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No.

One of the criticisms of the two movies is that the Bride is often seen as unrelatable to most female audience members. It's not very empowering if the people who are supposed to be empowered don't see themselves as the main character.
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Wii_Shaker
08/05/21 12:21:21 AM
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I hate to say it but Pitch Perfect is probably the greatest girl power movie of all time.

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nevershine
08/05/21 12:22:16 AM
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spice world

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g0ldie
08/05/21 12:22:44 AM
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Wii_Shaker posted...
I hate to say it but Pitch Perfect is probably the greatest girl power movie of all time.
I like this movie more than I can say

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MabusIncarnate
08/05/21 12:23:09 AM
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I was gonna say Ripley in the Aliens movies is pretty awesome

Maybe Katniss too from The Hunger Games

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Smashingpmkns
08/05/21 12:28:41 AM
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MabusIncarnate
08/05/21 12:29:42 AM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Midsommar

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g0ldie
08/05/21 12:30:50 AM
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man you really are just the ambassador of the opposite of every single one of my opinions
lol, I actually like all three movies, with the exception of Fat Amy's subplot in the third one

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Goatsensation
08/05/21 12:39:30 AM
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girls do get it done

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Killmonger
08/05/21 12:39:49 AM
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Lady Snowblood.

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yusiko
08/05/21 12:54:52 AM
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buffy the vampire slayer
but only if you count the series along with the movie cause the movie sucked

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Questionmarktarius
08/05/21 12:57:48 AM
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The Iron Lady
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averagejoel
08/05/21 12:57:53 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
No.

One of the criticisms of the two movies is that the Bride is often seen as unrelatable to most female audience members. It's not very empowering if the people who are supposed to be empowered don't see themselves as the main character.
so in order for it to be a "girl power movie", a movie has to "empower" the women who watch it?

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FortuneCookie
08/05/21 10:29:29 AM
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averagejoel posted...
so in order for it to be a "girl power movie", a movie has to "empower" the women who watch it?

edit: and "empowering" the women who watch it requires that the main character is relatable to them?

That's absolutely the basis of empowerment.

We're making you, the target audience, feelstrong.
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Weezy_Tha_Don
08/05/21 10:33:15 AM
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Charlies Angels?

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Ilishe
08/05/21 10:41:47 AM
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Aliens

Ripley is a mother fuckin BADASS. And Newt is incredible, surviving when everyone else died.

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bigblu89
08/05/21 10:43:33 AM
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nevershine posted...
spice world
For real. The movie's tagline was literally "Girl Power".

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masterpug53
08/05/21 10:59:35 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
No.

One of the criticisms of the two movies is that the Bride is often seen as unrelatable to most female audience members. It's not very empowering if the people who are supposed to be empowered don't see themselves as the main character.

Pretty spot-on, honestly. I absolutely adored Kill Bill for a time, but even during its heydey I found myself feeling that, outside of a couple key emotional scenes, the Bride is simply unrelatable in general; and I imagine that goes doubly for female audience members. I think her biggest problem is that the vast majority of her dialogue falls into that sort of A New Hope-style 'looks good on paper but sounds back when spoken' overworked writing. I always thought it was sort of a funny meta-commentary when, towards the ends of part 2, she poses a particularly stilted line to Bill and, in his half-drunk state, he asks something like 'I'm sorry...was that supposed to be a question?'

Wii_Shaker posted...
I hate to say it but Pitch Perfect is probably the greatest girl power movie of all time.

I saw this for the first time recently and I'm finding it hard to disagree. Upon retrospect, I think one of the things that sets it apart is that the girls' victory was made better by the fact that the writers didn't feel the need to knock down the boy characters by making them all stupid and unlikeable (Ghostbusters 2016 immediately springs to mind as a bad example of this); the boys were great, but the girls were greater, and it felt like the competition and subsequent victory was genuinely earned.

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Returning_CEmen
08/05/21 11:02:03 AM
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The Descent

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YookaLaylee
08/05/21 11:17:58 AM
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Wii_Shaker posted...
I hate to say it but Pitch Perfect is probably the greatest girl power movie of all time.

I only saw that movie once but I didnt like it. I wonder if that was just because I dont like Anna Kendrick. Maybe Ill rewatch it soon
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The Wheelman1
08/05/21 11:23:15 AM
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I think Charlie's Angels is the most girl power movie there is.

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Zanzenburger
08/05/21 11:24:55 AM
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masterpug53 posted...
Pretty spot-on, honestly. I absolutely adored Kill Bill for a time, but even during its heydey I found myself feeling that, outside of a couple key emotional scenes, the Bride is simply unrelatable in general; and I imagine that goes doubly for female audience members. I think her biggest problem is that the vast majority of her dialogue falls into that sort of A New Hope-style 'looks good on paper but sounds back when spoken' overworked writing. I always thought it was sort of a funny meta-commentary when, towards the ends of part 2, she poses a particularly stilted line to Bill and, in his half-drunk state, he asks something like 'I'm sorry...was that supposed to be a question?'

I saw this for the first time recently and I'm finding it hard to disagree. Upon retrospect, I think one of the things that sets it apart is that the girls' victory was made better by the fact that the writers didn't feel the need to knock down the boy characters by making them all stupid and unlikeable (Ghostbusters 2016 immediately springs to mind as a bad example of this); the boys were great, but the girls were greater, and it felt like the competition and subsequent victory was genuinely earned.
Not only that, but the movie subverted that trope where the new girl comes in and takes down the popular, egotistical, coercive ringleader by having Beca and Aubrey work through their differences and lift each other up rather than having Beca replace Aubrey and run her out of the group as other movies of these types tend to do. That plot point really surprised and impressed me.

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masterpug53
08/05/21 11:26:34 AM
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Zanzenburger posted...
Not only that, but the movie subverted that trope where the new girl comes in and takes down the popular, egotistical, coercive ringleader by having Beca and Aubrey work through their differences and lift each other up rather than having Beca replace Aubrey and run her out of the group as other movies of these types tend to do. That plot point really surprised and impressed me.

Excellent point, I had forgotten that but I remember really appreciating that angle / subversion while I was watching it. It's pretty rare when a movie manages to turn a villain / antagonist into an ally - let alone in a believable and meaningful way - and I love it when this happens.

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Slayer_22
08/05/21 11:28:56 AM
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When I first saw it as a young-in, I wasn't much a fan of part 2.

But then I grew up, and actually listened.

Bill's entire thing about Superman...my god. I love it.
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gunplagirl
08/05/21 11:37:04 AM
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Actually the best girl power movie would be Josie and the Pussycats.

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averagejoel
08/05/21 12:53:06 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
That's absolutely the basis of empowerment.

We're making you, the target audience, feelstrong.
I think that's an extremely shallow way of engaging with any film; but especially a film that was probably not intended to make the viewers feel strong in the first place

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Solo_Wing
08/05/21 1:01:07 PM
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Fury Road

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SevenTenths
08/05/21 1:08:41 PM
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The disrespect to gun smoke milkshake

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AngelsNAirwav3s
08/05/21 1:09:23 PM
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50 Shades of Gray

Some meek nobody virgin is able to tame the hottest guy in the world who is also the richest guy in the world

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FortuneCookie
08/05/21 2:05:32 PM
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averagejoel posted...
I think that's an extremely shallow way of engaging with any film; but especially a film that was probably not intended to make the viewers feel strong in the first place


I'm not saying it's a bad movie. But the point of empowerment is to make a specific target audience feel empowered. If they don't feel that character represents them or their interests, it's not empowering to them.
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deoxxys
08/05/21 2:11:14 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
50 Shades of Gray

Some meek nobody virgin is able to tame the hottest guy in the world who is also the richest guy in the world
TBH yeah XD movies like this are more along where female interests lie.

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skermac
08/05/21 2:11:54 PM
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So far nothing is close

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SSJPurple
08/05/21 2:15:10 PM
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Death Proof?

Cmon thats the ultimate girl power movie and its by the same director

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averagejoel
08/05/21 2:37:50 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
I'm not saying it's a bad movie. But the point of empowerment is to make a specific target audience feel empowered. If they don't feel that character represents them or their interests, it's not empowering to them.
wouldn't that necessarily differ for every person who sees the movie?

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
08/05/21 2:40:44 PM
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Girl Power?

Watch all these awesomely strong women fall in line behind an asshole male because... reasons? I dunno.

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Southernfatman
08/05/21 2:42:26 PM
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SSJPurple posted...
Death Proof?

Cmon thats the ultimate girl power movie and its by the same director

But Kill Bill is actually good.

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Kisai
08/05/21 2:44:41 PM
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I wouldn't even consider it a "girl power" movie.

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