Board 8 > so Pokemon Unite came out about 2 weeks ago

(+) Yeah! (+)

discuss

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haven't played much, but it's pretty fun

anyone have any guides (preferably pokmon-specific) for the best strategies to follow? all i've found are shitty clickbait articles with no real content

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Can you demote ranks or when you hit a new division are you safe there?

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_stingers_ posted...

Can you demote ranks or when you hit a new division are you safe there?

I believe you demote

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So I know Garchomp isn't like... great. But is he viable if I can ignore flame? Or is it an "actually so bad that you can't even have fun playing Garchomp casually because you'll get frustrated at doing no damage"

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My friends play but I refuse to give it q chance yet
From what I hear it's actually pretty good if it wasn't for the p2w and unlockable character things

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profDEADPOOL posted...

So I know Garchomp isn't like... great. But is he viable if I can ignore flame? Or is it an "actually so bad that you can't even have fun playing Garchomp casually because you'll get frustrated at doing no damage"

This is entirely dependent on why you are playing. If you are just having fun do whatever you want

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profDEADPOOL posted...

So I know Garchomp isn't like... great. But is he viable if I can ignore flame? Or is it an "actually so bad that you can't even have fun playing Garchomp casually because you'll get frustrated at doing no damage"

He's in a bit of a rough spot, unfortunately. He's very late-game oriented with a weak early-game, but unlike Gardevoir, who this also applies to, he doesn't have the luxury of being able to attack from range in relative safety. Since you have relatively little impact and influence on the game early on, you're a little reliant on your team not bombing elsewhere on the map, or by the time you're strong it could already be too late and you're relying on Zapdos to bail you out.

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_stingers_ posted...

Can you demote ranks or when you hit a new division are you safe there?

I demoted from Expert to Great yesterday. It was very shocking! Got back into Expert soon after thought

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You can demote yeah. It's very sad.

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As you rank up it starts to take more and more performance points to get your bonus stars. At Veteran it takes 300 performance points and at Ultra it takes 400. When you are in a position where you can lose a rank it will instead subtract 100 points from this total. Although really it's only only -90 because you get +10 for playing the round. And really it should only be -80 as long as you put 100 points on the board that game (which you should start looking for a way to do once it's clear the game is lost). So that Performance Point Pool becomes much more useful at preventing losses than generating bonus stars. With 400 points you can prevent FIVE -80 point losses versus the ONE bonus star for filling it up. That doesn't mean you should lose on purpose, but it does mean you will occasionally just happen to be in a position where your points are being much more efficiently used preventing losses and you should be happy when that happens.

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Great topic name lol

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Luis_Sera89 posted...

He's in a bit of a rough spot, unfortunately. He's very late-game oriented with a weak early-game, but unlike Gardevoir, who this also applies to, he doesn't have the luxury of being able to attack from range in relative safety. Since you have relatively little impact and influence on the game early on, you're a little reliant on your team not bombing elsewhere on the map, or by the time you're strong it could already be too late and you're relying on Zapdos to bail you out.

mm.

masterplum posted...

This is entirely dependent on why you are playing. If you are just having fun do whatever you want

Sure, so the gap isn't that bad then I take it. I've just seen times in other games where certain picks are so bad it's impossible to function. Glad to know this isn't one of htem.

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profDEADPOOL posted...

mm.

Sure, so the gap isn't that bad then I take it. I've just seen times in other games where certain picks are so bad it's impossible to function. Glad to know this isn't one of htem.

I haven't felt any of the characters were so wildly unplayable to be bad picks in every mode.

I mean if you are trying to be mythic it might be unplayable

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Yeah, no, not that tryhard lol.

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After like 20 matches I realized that I had seen zero Machamps, so I bought Machamp and now I think I main Machamp
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Is the P2W as bad as the news articles say it is?

They make it out like it's a month away from being completely unviable as a video game once enough people whale.

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It's not. You can do just fine with level 10-20 items. The slight extra bonuses help for sure but if you are better than your opponents you'll win anyways.

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In a month you should be able to f2p your way to level 20 items. Level 30 items will have a small edge, but it's not like you are playing entirely different characters.

The only downside is when metashifts or game chances make some items viable and make the items you have levelled up worthless. That's when the whales will be able to throw money at the game to adapt to the new items much faster than you so I'm curious how that will go down.

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It's a moba that is played with a controller. I'll pass because I have a job to buy games.

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Highlights of my games today:

Winning by over 700 with a guy named "cumguzzler69" (he was MVP too)

Losing a game where the final score was 420-421. We even took Zapdos, scored, and then stalled them from scoring in the last minute. Always score when you have the chance I guess!

Landing Mr Mime combos all day. His wall is the perfect support because you can save your dumb teammates who overextend.

I feel like this game would have a ton more strategy if you could just see the damn score during the match. Sure it might encourage more people giving up earlier but I think if our team knew we were down by ONE POINT then we might have played a little different.

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From the last topic:

The set I posted at the end of my last post is a pretty universally useful set-up.

It might seem odd to suggest Muscle Band even on mage-like characters, but you find yourself auto-attacking much more in this game than most other MOBAs, particularly since every character has a passive where your third auto is empowered, so you get surprising value out of it.

The shield(s) you get from Buddy Barrier can make all the difference in a fight, especially around Zapdos, so whilst you won't get use from it throughout a match, it proves it's worth when it really counts.

Focus Band is just really good survivability, especially when you get it level 20 the regen gets really strong and it'll push you over the line in more 1v1 fights.

Thanks, but I was wondering if there's a list of recommended moveset options for the Pokemon attacks. It's clear that a lot of them combo well in certain ways, but when I try out a new Pokemon I get overwhelmed at first. And I have difficulty remembering what the moves do once in an actual match. Some sort of guide with suggestions would help me a lot.

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Machamp good

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Can confirm that Buddy Barrier / Focus Band is really good.

Grand Kirby posted...

Thanks, but I was wondering if there's a list of recommended moveset options for the Pokemon attacks. It's clear that a lot of them combo well in certain ways, but when I try out a new Pokemon I get overwhelmed at first. And I have difficulty remembering what the moves do once in an actual match. Some sort of guide with suggestions would help me a lot.

Which Pokemon are you going to use?

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I'm on if anyone wants to play. Crustle is quickly becoming my favorite. Big Garen energy from him.

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I guess my thing with buddy barrier is, how many times are you using your unite move during a match? 2-3? I get that when you use your unite move, its usually during pivotal moments in the match so anything that helps that moment swing to your side is good, but I dont know.

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I'm down for some standard games if we got 3+

Anyone else in?

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I got about an hour and a half until I have to leave for work. So I can play.

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GANON1025 posted...

I guess my thing with buddy barrier is, how many times are you using your unite move during a match? 2-3? I get that when you use your unite move, its usually during pivotal moments in the match so anything that helps that moment swing to your side is good, but I dont know.

At the moment, this game is heavily centered around big moments. Teams that get Drednaw and *especially* Zapdos are highly likely to win. Buddy Barrier will probably be less effective if they nerf the objectives, but for now extra shielding in a major teamfight is a big deal.

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I'll be in the b8 discord then. Come join everyone to play some games :)

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GANON1025 posted...

I guess my thing with buddy barrier is, how many times are you using your unite move during a match? 2-3? I get that when you use your unite move, its usually during pivotal moments in the match so anything that helps that moment swing to your side is good, but I dont know.

I've been really liking Buddy Barrier. It basically guarantees your Unite Move will win the fight (otherwise while they're strong you can still get outplayed)/

Zigzagoon posted...

I'm down for some standard games if we got 3+

Anyone else in?

...And right about the time I'm going to sleep. Someday...

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Lobby ID: 81680554

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Were you joining KP?

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Not interested in normals atm

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kk

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Got the Talonflame holowear, too bad he's not so good!

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PATCH NOTES!

https://unite.pokemon.com/en-us/news/pokemon-unite-game-update/

Cinderace and Eldegoss and Gengar NERFS!

Zeraora nerf too :(, just as I was going to learn him better.

Absol buffs but for his other abilities which aren't as good. Maybe I'll try Sucker Punch more now, it IS fun.

And a bunch of other things. Mostly buffs for characters that aren't used as much.

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Lucario and Snorlax not being touched is a bit surprising. They definitely need a hit, at least compared to Zeraora. Yeah, I get Zeraora can stomp low elos but he's not nearly as good in high elo.

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The two worst Pokemon got big buffs. Solid update.

Machamp got buffed though and I think people were just sleeping on him.

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Patch not active til 8/4 btw.

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Cinderace
The following stats have been decreased:
Attack

RIP

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Deserved.

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Well, yeah.

Gonna need to see numbers before making any judgements. Maybe I can start playing Charizard. I *want* to play Venusaur as Solar Beam is very fun, but honestly his kit seems disjointed and not well-put together. Numbers buffs can't fix that.

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I don't think Machamp needed a buff, he's already very good

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Machamp
Basic Attack
Bug Fixes
Cross Chop
Damage dealt to opposing Pokmon decreased.
Close Combat
Damage dealt to opposing Pokmon increased.

Seems like a wash, but I'm not familiar with him.

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Yeah, gonna hate seeing MORE Machamps v_v

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Nice, some Charizard buffs!

Wonder what "downgrade" means for Hex though....

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Nothing for Pikachu. At least there are no nerfs.

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welp gotta climb as high as i can with cinderace before he gets nerfed

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KamikazePotato posted...

Machamp
Basic Attack
Bug Fixes
Cross Chop
Damage dealt to opposing Pokmon decreased.
Close Combat
Damage dealt to opposing Pokmon increased.
Seems like a wash, but I'm not familiar with him.

The one competitive build I saw for him had Cross Chop and not Close Combat, so maybe this nerfs the top Machamps but buffs lesser Machamps?

Im happy about it because Im always using Dynamic Punch + Close Combat, so it just helps me
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